First, the covenant isn't "old." It is an everlasting covenant, still in effect. Torah is instruction for mankind, all mankind. It was known from the beginning. Several instances are given from Genesis 2 through Exodus 19 to prove that. It was given again to a mixed multitude coming out of Egypt.

After YHVH gave Torah (the instructions), He told of the blessings that would be received for choosing to keep the commandments and the curses for choosing not to. He said, "See, I have set before you this day life and good, and death and evil...therefore CHOOSE LIFE." Read Deut 30:15-20.

"Salvation" is available to all who choose to keep the commandments of the covenant.

Eze 18:27-28 When the wicked man turns away from his wickedness (REPENTS) that he has committed and does that which is lawful and right (KEEPS THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE COVENANT), he shall SAVE HIS SOUL ALIVE. Because he considers and turns away from all his transgressions that he has committed, HE SHALL SURELY LIVE, HE SHALL NOT DIE.

HE SHALL SURELY LIVE, HE SHALL NOT DIE. What does this mean? We know our flesh is going to die, so this is speaking of our soul; he shall "SAVE HIS SOUL ALIVE."

If you will read all of Ezekiel chapter 18, you will find that no man can die for another man's sin. Everyone is responsible for their own sin. No one's wickedness can be put upon you, and no one's righteousness can be put upon you. YHVH gave you the way to save your soul alive; it's up to you to choose to do it. REPENT AND KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.

Some say Rome is Edom. Tanakh tells us Esau is Edom. If Rome is Edom and Esau is Edom, who is Rome? Rome created christianity which is totally diametrically opposed to Tanakh, the word of YHVH. They gave you a man-god idol to worship and told you that with his death and resurrection he brought you a "new" covenant and your sins are forgiven. Rome lies to you and tells you YHVH's EVERLASTING covenant is OLD and obsolete; the law is done away with, and you don't have to follow it.

When we read Eze 18:27-28 above, did you see anything in there about a man-god idol you must believe in to obtain salvation? Did you see anything in there about needing a mediator or intercessor to go to YHVH for you? Did you see anything in there about someone else dying to save you from the responsibility of your sins? No, you didn't. These are all lies from Rome.

YHVH tells us His covenant is everlasting. But Rome tells you YHVH's covenant is old and obsolete and that their man-god idol brought you a new covenant.

YHVH tells us he doesn't change. But Rome has the audacity and arrogance to change what YHVH says.

YHVH tells us human sacrifice is an abomination. But Rome brought you a human man-god idol to sacrifice for your sins.

YHVH tells us we must do what is lawful and right (keep the commandments of the covenant) to save our soul alive. But Rome tells you the law has been fulfilled by their man-god idol, nailed to the cross, done away with, abolished and you don't have to follow it.

YHVH's covenant is still in effect. It will be RENEWED but not until the latter days. It will be renewed with those who keep the commandments of the covenant, Israel. It will be renewed by writing it on our hearts as opposed to stone.

YHVH or man-god idol.
Join Israel or stay in Rome.
Keep the commandments or "just believe" in Rome's man-god idol.
"Old" covenant or "new" covenant.

This is YOUR choice, YOUR responsibility, and YOUR soul at stake.

CHOOSE WISELY!”

Old Covenant was between YHWH and Israel so there's no business a none Israelites who lives far away from Canaan (Jerusalem temple) has with YHWH in the Old Covenant. Matthew 15:24

But with the New Covenant {Jeremiah 31:33} people from other nations can become friends of YHWH because geographical location doesn't count in the New Covenant! John 4:22-24

So who connected you with YHWH when you're not an Israelite neither a citizen of Israel living close to the temple in Jerusalem?

MaxInDHouse:
Old Covenant was between YHWH and Israel so there's no business a none Israelites who lives far away from Canaan (Jerusalem temple) has with YHWH in the Old Covenant. Matthew 15:24

But with the New Covenant {Jeremiah 31:33} people from other nations can become friends of YHWH because geographical location doesn't count in the New Covenant! John 4:22-24

So who connected you with YHWH when you're not an Israelite neither a citizen of Israel living close to the temple in Jerusalem?

Does it mean then that Jesus didn't die for the sins of the Israelites,?

triplechoice:

Does it mean then that Jesus didn't die for the sins of the Israelites,?

Jesus died for salvation of the entire human race but the chance to benefit must start from among the Jews {Matthew 10:6} before it could extend to other nations {Matthew 15:24 compare to and it's the Jews that will bring it to you. Zechariah 8:23
Only those that believe in Jesus will benefit globally! John 3:16

God sent Jonah to Nineveh to tech them the Torah so the Torah was not for Isreal only but for any nation that wants it

MaxInDHouse:
Old Covenant was between YHWH and Israel so there's no business a none Israelites who lives far away from Canaan (Jerusalem temple) has with YHWH in the Old Covenant. Matthew 15:24

But with the New Covenant {Jeremiah 31:33} people from other nations can become friends of YHWH because geographical location doesn't count in the New Covenant! John 4:22-24

So who connected you with YHWH when you're not an Israelite neither a citizen of Israel living close to the temple in Jerusalem?

MindHacker9009:
God sent Jonah to Nineveh to tech them the Torah so the Torah was not for Isreal only but for any nation that wants it

So Jonah took a Constitution and promise which God swore by His Name belonged only to those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20?

You are saying that God lied to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob , and all of the prophets who He conscripted - they didn't even have a choice in the whole matter from the beginning- into an eternal Covenant with Him? You seem desperate to win this argument, am I right? Either that you really believe God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is just a fking nut job? Which is it?

Kobojunkie:
So Jonah took a Constitution and promise which God swore by His Name belonged only to those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20?

You are saying that God lied to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob , and all of the prophets who He conscripted - they didn't even have a choice in the whole matter from the beginning- into an eternal Covenant with Him? You seem desperate to win this argument, am I right? Either that you really believe God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is just a fking nut job? Which is it?

So what message did GOD tell Jonah to take to the people of Nineveh which cannot be found in the Torah? Remember that GOD can also change HIS Mind - Exodus 32:14

Amos 7:3 So the LORD relented. “This will not happen,” the LORD said.

MindHacker9009:
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So what message did GOD tell Jonah to take to the people of Nineveh which cannot be found in the Torah? Remember that GOD can also change HIS Mind - Exodus 32:14

2. Amos 7:3 The Lord changed His mind about this. “It shall not be,” said the Lord.

1. So by your assessment, every time God sent one of His prophets to a King order that the King of Israel , it was to extend the Law of Moses to that Nation .i.e. Babylon, Tyre and Sidon, etc?

2. You used a search filter to look up a reference for God supposedly change His Mind without bothering to verify exactly what it was that was about?

MindHacker9009:
God sent Jonah to Nineveh to tech them the Torah so the Torah was not for Isreal only but for any nation that wants it

Please can you prove the highlighted in the scriptures?

God never sent Jonah to preach nor teach in Nineveh, all he was sent to do is DECLARED GOD'S JUDGMENT ON THAT CITY. Jonah 1:2

Jonah got there and declared saying:

"In just forty days this city will be destroyed" Jonah 3:4

And the countdown began as Jonah wakes up each day to declare the remaining days from 40-39-38-37-36-35.........10-9-8-7-6

He never preached nor taught a single thing in Nineveh!

Please the book (Bible) belongs to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES so before you jump into argument with a JW study hard because it's our book and we can tell you everything in it! Isaiah 54:17

MindHacker9009:

So what message did GOD tell Jonah to take to the people of Nineveh which cannot be found in the Torah? Remember that GOD can also change HIS Mind - Exodus 32:14
Amos 7:3 The Lord changed His mind about this. “It shall not be,” said the Lord.

God created humans in His own image {Genesis 1:26} so humans supposed to make use of our God's given conscience to discern what is evil when dealing with our fellowman {Matthew 7:12} the Torah is just a shadow of what God's Kingdom will be when it's established globally but as for humanity in general we already have our God's given conscience before the Torah. The Torah has not been written when Joseph turned down the sexual advances of Potiphar's wife {Genesis 39:7-9} the same blueprint is found in all humans {Romans 2:14-15} but when humans begin to suppress the conscience that's the time God gets annoyed.
Satan have succeeded in turning Adam and Eve against God but then their children still have something in them to fight back as in resist evil thoughts to an extent.
That's why God say those who choose to kill their conscience aren't His own children {Deuteronomy 32:5} because He Himself will never ever deliberately do what is evil! Genesis 18:25 compare to James 1:13

So just as God told Noah to build an Ark so as to preserve the lives of obedient ones and sent angels to Sodom and Gomorrah to inspect the cities and destroy it if it deserves to be destroyed, the same way God sent Jonah to declare judgment against Nineveh.

There was nothing to TEACH neither those in Noah's day, Inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah or Ninevites because they never had any written laws upon which the tutorial could be developed. All they had is their God's given conscience and God expected each human to make the best use of this, failure to do so mean such a person won't appreciate the Torah even if brought to them because the Torah is all about acknowledgement of the Creator and fairness to our neighbours! Mark 12:28-31

The Torah is: God's revealed teaching or guidance for humankind. Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Torah
So I will ask you again to show what GOD told Jonah to tell the people of Nineveh which cannot be found in the Torah?

Kobojunkie:
1. So by your assessment, every time God sent one of His prophets to a King order that the King of Israel , it was to extend the Law of Moses to that Nation .i.e. Babylon, Tyre and Sidon, etc?

Kobojunkie:

2. You used a search filter to look up a reference for God supposedly change His Mind without bothering to verify exactly what it was that was about?

I have updated it

Kobojunkie:
1. So by your assessment, every time God sent one of His prophets to a King order that the King of Israel , it was to extend the Law of Moses to that Nation .i.e. Babylon, Tyre and Sidon, etc?

2. You used a search filter to look up a reference for God supposedly change His Mind without bothering to verify exactly what it was that was about?

Then you have not read this verse:
Jonah 1:1-2
1 The word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai:
2 “Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me.”

MaxInDHouse:


Please can you prove the highlighted in the scriptures?

God never sent Jonah to preach nor teach in Nineveh, all he was sent to do is DECLARED GOD'S JUDGMENT ON THAT CITY. Jonah 1:2

Jonah got there and declared saying:

"In just forty days this city will be destroyed" Jonah 3:4

And the countdown began as Jonah wakes up each day to declare the remaining days from 40-39-38-37-36-35.........10-9-8-7-6

He never preached nor taught a single thing in Nineveh!

Please the book (Bible) belongs to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES so before you jump into argument with a JW study hard because it's our book and we can tell you everything in it! Isaiah 54:17

MindHacker9009:
Then you have not read this verse:
Jonah 1:1-2
1 The word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai:
2 “Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me.”

That's what you need to ask!

“Get up, go to Ninʹe·veh the great city, and proclaim judgment against her, for their wickedness has come to my attention.” Jonah1:2

PREACHING and TEACHING are two different things. When talking about TEACHING it's what has been established that you can inculcate with the act of teaching but as for preaching it has two facets:
[1] Warning message
[2] Declaring God's judgment.

In the case of Nineveh Jonah was to DECLARE God's message to Ninevites that's why he never expected them to repent because he wasn't warning them. Had it been he warned them it would have been a two way expectation whether they will yield and be spared or ignore and be destroyed.
Jonah declared destruction on Nineveh anticipating evil because God never told him to preach for the nation to repent!

GOD said Jonah should go and preach against it. Preach means to deliver a sermon

Jonah 1:1-2
1 The word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai:
2 “Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me.”

MaxInDHouse:


That's what you need to ask!

“Get up, go to Ninʹe·veh the great city, and proclaim judgment against her, for their wickedness has come to my attention.” Jonah1:2

PREACHING and TEACHING are two different things. When talking about TEACHING it's what has been established that you can inculcate with the act of teaching but as for preaching it has two facets:
[1] Warning message
[2] Declaring God's judgment.

In the case of Nineveh Jonah was to DECLARE God's message to Ninevites that's why he never expected them to repent because he wasn't warning them. Had it been he warned them it would have been a two way expectation whether they will yield and be spared or ignore and be destroyed.
Jonah declared destruction on Nineveh anticipating evil because God never told him to preach for the nation to repent!

MindHacker9009:
GOD said Jonah should go and preach against it. Preach means to deliver a sermon
Jonah 1:1-2
1 The word of the Lord came to Jonah son of Amittai:
2 “Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me.”

This is why i told you:

Please the book (Bible) belongs to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES so before you jump into argument with a JW study hard because it's our book and we can tell you everything in it! Isaiah 54:17

In the New World Translation (JW Version) it's rendered this way:

“Get up, go to Ninʹe·veh the great city, and proclaim judgment against her, for their wickedness has come to my attention.” Jonah1:2

If it was a sermon Jonah won't be expecting only destruction because sermon was to help the listeners not to scare them.

Moreover he can't TEACH them anything since they never had God's laws upon which such teaching could be established!

MindHacker9009:
The Torah is: God's revealed teaching or guidance for humankind. Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Torah
So I will ask you again to show what GOD told Jonah to tell the people of Nineveh which cannot be found in the Torah?
I have updated it

So God lied in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 and everywhere else in the Torah where He indicated that the Torah was an agreement which He made only with the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? OK then...

God gave humans his divine laws to guide them in making choices.
The Jews wrote it down and called it the Torah.
They made it for their national religion they called Judaism....
The Indians wrote it down and called it the Vedas.
The Egyptian wrote it down and called it the Metu neter.
The Igbos wrote it down and called it the Omenani/odinani.

But like slaves, everybody is fixated on the Jewish one.

That aside. The laws was an everlasting laws. The Torah specifically asked that it be thought from. Generation to generation..

There is no where in it where it says God was going to send his son to start another ideology or religion for the rest of mankind..

No where.
Then where did the writers of the so called new testament get the idea from?

Replacement theology.

sonmvayina:
God gave humans his divine laws to guide them in making choices.
The Jews wrote it down and called it the Torah.
They made it for their national religion they called Judaism....
The Indians wrote it down and called it the Vedas.
The Egyptian wrote it down and called it the Metu neter.
The Igbos wrote it down and called it the Omenani/odinani.

But like slaves, everybody is fixated on the Jewish one.

That aside. The laws was an everlasting laws. The Torah specifically asked that it be thought from. Generation to generation..

There is no where in it where it says God was going to send his son to start another ideology or religion for the rest of mankind..

No where.
Then where did the writers of the so called new testament get the idea from?

Replacement theology.

Bullshit.

KnownUnknown:


Bullshit.

So says a dummy..

sonmvayina:


So says a dummy..

Oooohhhhh, you got me there!!!

sonmvayina:

But like slaves, everybody is fixated on the Jewish one.

Says the ardent believer in Jewish nonsense. Lmao

KnownUnknown:


Oooohhhhh, you got me there!!!



Says the ardent believer in Jewish nonsense. Lmao

So you did not even understand the initial post..

Sorry...

sonmvayina:


So you did not even understand the initial post..

Sorry...

I think we already settled the initial post. You know, bullshit!

sonmvayina:


So you did not even understand the initial post..

Sorry...

That’s bullshit also,

sonmvayina:


So you did not even understand the initial post..

Sorry...

That’s bullshit. Jew-worshiping bullshit.

KnownUnknown:


I think we already settled the initial post. You know, bullshit!

Like I said..

That is what a dummy will say...

sonmvayina:


Like I said..

That is what a dummy will say...

Isn’t that a sin against YHVH?

KnownUnknown:


Isn’t that a sin against YHVH?

Who is yhvh or what is yhvh?

sonmvayina:


Who is yhvh or what is yhvh?

Your imaginary friend.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus died for salvation of the entire human race but the chance to benefit must start from among the Jews {Matthew 10:6} before it could extend to other nations {Matthew 15:24 compare to and it's the Jews that will bring it to you. Zechariah 8:23
Only those that believe in Jesus will benefit globally! John 3:16

In those Bible verses and anywhere else in the same Bible, the Jews were never told a Jesus or Messiah would come to die for their sins as part of the any New covenant.

They were also never told that unless they believe in Jesus, they would never benefit from his death.

So, did Jesus come to change God's plan?

triplechoice:

In those Bible verses and anywhere else in the same Bible, the Jews were never told a Jesus or Messiah would come to die for their sins as part of the any New covenant.
They were also never told that unless they believe in Jesus, they would never benefit from his death.
So, did Jesus come to change God's plan?

When a JW talks about the Bible try to learn it will benefit you greatly!

Before i comment on your question read what Isaiah wrote here, meditate thoroughly then try to find out the meaning of the scripture:

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. Isaiah 53:6:10

KnownUnknown:


Your imaginary friend.

Huhhh?
Are you ok? Or you need help..

Imaginary friend kwa

MaxInDHouse:


When a JW talks about the Bible try to learn it will benefit you greatly!

Before i comment on your question read what Isaiah wrote here, meditate thoroughly then try to find out the meaning of the scripture:

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. Isaiah 53:6:10

It is about a suffering servant...Isaiah already told you who the servant is in 41:1-8.

There is no death or ressurection in the passage.
Verse 10 says " he shall see his offspring and the will of the lord shall prosper in his hands...

The suffering servant is Israel...