pazienza:


Non of those positions are higher than the speaker of the house that PDP zoned to SW.

So the question is: Why did Tinubu and SW house members conspire to humiliate PDP and GEJ chosen candidate Mulikat, just to spite GEJ and Spin the story of marginalization later on?
If Tinubu could convince Tambuwal to dump PDP for APC, what made it impossible to convince Mulikat to do same, after they must have helped her become the Speaker first and foremost, and then help her decamp to APC fold?

If it's not because Tinubu and SW house members were eager to create an avenue with which they could justify their later campaign of mariginalization against GEJ?

pazienza:


Non of those positions are higher than the speaker of the house that PDP zoned to SW.

So the question is: Why did Tinubu and SW house members conspire to humiliate PDP and GEJ chosen candidate Mulikat, just to spite GEJ and Spin the story of marginalization later on?
If Tinubu could convince Tambuwal to dump PDP for APC, what made it impossible to convince Mulikat to do same, after they must have helped her become the Speaker first and foremost, and then help her decamp to APC fold?

If it's not because Tinubu and SW house members were eager to create an avenue with which they could justify their later campaign of mariginalization against GEJ?

Kagawa10:


Will you keep your mouth shut? Look at the nonsense you are spewing. How was Jonathan insulted by the Yorubas? Same Yoruba that voted en mass for him and as you can see, the hatred on the thread started as soon as he was elected in 2011. Same Tinubu your lots were insulting in the thread was the first to tell Yorubas in Lagos to vote en mass for PDP during the presidential election but ACN during the state election in 2011. Fact is many Yoruba leaders stood up for Jonathan especially when the North wanted to forcefully remove him but what did we get in return?

I asked again, how was Jonathan insulted? Was it by voting en mass for him? You're quite stupid. For a president of a multi ethnic nation to be seen mocking one of the ethnic tribe in his country is something that shouldn't be heard of and shows how stupid Jonathan was/still is.

It's funny how you lots knew Jonathan built no infrastructures in the SE yet still supported him because of the juicy position he offered your people at the expense of the Yorubas. Same way your lots made 1 million man march for Abacha because he offered Ibo juicy position regardless of the atrocities he committed. Your lots even loved him the more the moment Abacha was killing the Yorubas. Ibos are not only corrupt but also hateful. That's what makes you tick.

0monnak0da:

It is an important question but not relevant to Goodluck Jonathan or any claim of marginalization levelled against him.Such should be measured against actions under his control.

Buhari had no control over the emergence of Saraki or Dogara.
If PDP was sincere about giving the Speaker to the SW why did they not consider an APC candidate after all we have Ekweremadu in office now.
Please stop the lies and bullshit


We are talking about Goodluck Jonathan
The Speaker issue is a party political issue PDP/APC matter
Here specifically we are talking about Goodluck Jonathan and appointments in his control
Tell us his biggest or most prominent Yoruba appointee

pazienza:


Yorubas never voted in mass for GEJ. The votes were divided as usual, with GEJ just edging it. Yorubaland never votes unilaterally or massively for a single candidate, when a Yoruba man isn't contesting for presidency.
So let's get this straight, SW never voted en mass for GEJ. There was voters apathy in 2011 presidential election in SW. And the few that voted were divided with GEJ just edging it.
Look at the 2011 presidential election result here, tell me how you voted for him en mass :http://saharareporters.com/2011/04/17/presidential-election-results-live

When you called him a drunken fisherman! That's when you insulted him. Remember? I don't remember GEJ mocking Yorubas though.

We had juicy positions under OBJ as well. CBN governor, Minister of Finance,NAFDAC telecommunications, Senate President, etc. , And we appreciated him by supporting him through thick and thin. Twice we voted for OBJ, even against Igbo candidates, even when Buhari had an Igbo VP.
You never seem to have a problem with us supporting OBJ, and with OBJ surrounding himself with competent Igbo technocrats, but you all out of innate hate for anything that is not yours, hated GEJ and hated the fact that Ndiigbo decided to still lend him the same support we had always lent to all PDP presidents, irrespective of their ethnic group and irrespective of the fact that they didn't really do much for us in terms of infrastructural development.

I don't understand how an Igbo man looking for his pocket Who supported Abacha translates to Igbos wanting Abacha rule, just to spite Yorubas. The last time I checked, it was Yoruba elders who collected money from Abacha and sold out Abiola. https://www.legit.ng/1111319-how-mko-abiola-betrayed-former-nadeco-secretary.html

It was your current Messiah Buhari, who was Abacha right hand man, and who helped him loot Nigeria blind as well as discriminated against the entire Southern Nigeria, when he allocated more than 60% of PTF projects to North and only few to the South.

You people penchant for turning logic on its head and twisting narratives is legendary, but you forgot that this is no longer the era you lots had monopoly to print media and used it judiciously to propagate your lies and propaganda, unchallenged.
The social media has taken away that advantage from you, you need to smell the coffee and stop already.

pazienza:


We all know that the Ekweremmadu thing was an anomaly. A glitch in the system, that will never happen again.
It isn't the norm.
The norm is that the rulling party shares the lucrative posts amongst members from all zones, using a zoning formular to entrench equity.

Why did Tinubu intervene and denied SW on her own fair share of equity and share in PDP by working against a fellow Yoruba called Mulikat, to benefit a Fulani man called Tambuwal.

You lots are yet to answer this question, and I have been asking or for years now.

pazienza:


We all know that the Ekweremmadu thing was an anomaly. A glitch in the system, that will never happen again.
It isn't the norm.
The norm is that the rulling party shares the lucrative posts amongst members from all zones, using a zoning formular to entrench equity.

Why did Tinubu intervene and denied SW on her own fair share of equity and share in PDP by working against a fellow Yoruba called Mulikat, to benefit a Fulani man called Tambuwal.

You lots are yet to answer this question, and I have been asking or for years now.

Kagawa10:


See another rubbish you have just posted. How does few selfish Yoruba leaders who loves their pocket equates to millions of Yorubas like we had millions of Ibos making man march for Abacha? Or the millions jumping with joy over Yoruba marginalisation under Jonathan? You're so stupid.

Jonathan was seen laughing with Arthur Eze who was mocking Yorubas with derogatory words, calling us Useless amala ewedu folks. The fact that Jonathan laughed with the stupid man shows he's an accomplice and had the same thought. Obj was called many names such as monkey, masquerade etc yet no one heard him mock any tribe like Jonathan did. Even Buhari didn't mock anyone with derogatory statement like Jonathan did, despite the name calling by your lots. All what Buhari said was those who gave him 5% votes would get 5% efforts from his administration. That was all but Ibo took it personally.

Fact is Yoruba voted en mass for Jonathan. He won in all SW states poll which is always devoid of rigging unlike what we always had in the SE until the introduction of card readers. Lagos especially gave him more than a million vote but what did we get in return? Hatred. The likes of Woke Soyinka had thousands man march for him to protest against the North who had wanted to remove him. Obj also tried his best. Even Tinubu didn't keep quiet until Jonathan was handed power to rule but what did Yoruba get from the ingrate? He allowed the hateful Ibos to poisoned his mind against the Yorubas.

I have always said in one of my post that your lots are filled with hate and always view things from the point of competition which started with Zik who was always writing bullshit in his newspaper to denigrate other tribes while elevating his tribe. What is with you that you can coexist with others without the tendency to subdue others? Would it have been that bad if both Ibos and Yoruba had coexist under Jonathan regime? But no, Ibos sabotaged the regime with their hate and stupidity.

0monnak0da:

That is a diversion
We are talking on this thread about Goodluck Jonathatan
and his appointments
So why did he marginalize the Yorubas

The Speaker HOR is not an appointment

of the President


Yoruba elders went to Jonathan to complain about his appointments that is how we got to this point

pazienza:


They were also complaining about lack of Yoruba presence in the government.

A Yoruba House of rep speaker would have given you that.
PDP with GEJ acceptance carefully picked and anointed Mulikat for the post of Speaker of the house .

Question of the day remains, why did Tinubu and Yoruba APC, choose a Fulani (Tambuwal), over their own daughter, and even went as far as directly working against and voting against their own daughter.

I want to get the answer for this from you children of hate, before we proceed further .

Your time is ticking.

0monnak0da:


Theyy were talking about Goodluck Jonathan not presence in government . Once elected into the legislature a person is IN GOVERNMENT
Did Buhari appoint Saraki or Dogara

The issue was Goodluck Jonathan's appointments specifically and his marginalization of Yoruba's. The reason they went to him was because they were interested in those things under his control.That is the executive arm.

pazienza:


Which millions of Igbos matched for Abacha? You are just being a child of hate. The million man March by Daniel Kanu didn't take place in Igboland, it took place in Abuja/Lagos, and it had in its attendance hired crowd from all parts of Nigeria. It had nothing to do with Ndiigbo. Ndiigbo never endorsed Daniel Kanu actions. Daniel Kanu was not a spokes person for Ndiigbo, he isn't different from your NADECO Yoruba members who collected money from Abacha as well and sold out Abiola.
You are just being your normal hateful self pinning it on entire Igbo populace.

Here is a link to Daniel Kanu 1 million man March, look at the rented crowd there and see every tribe of Nigeria represented by just observing their dressing style.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVYnY6wSLXY


By the way, why should you have a problem with Abacha, your current master and Messiah Buhari loved and served him till the end, and still maintains till today that Abacha was a saint, despite myriads of proof saying otherwise. But you children of Akalogoli has no problem with idolizing Buhari and praising him. Isn't it contradictory for you to hate Daniel Kanu Who was a mere sycophant but like and Adore Buhari who was part and parcel of Buhari government?

Buhari openly mocked us when he called us 5% Who should not expect much from his government for not voting him. No insult is greater than that. Being told you are a second class citizen in a country you are supposed to be a part of, by supposedly democratically elected president.

Card readers have never worked in SE, all it ever did was disfranchise our people, as the machine always malfunctions, wasting time and ending up resulting in many not being able to cast their votes. It was a deliberate agenda introduced by APC using JEGA since 2015 to reduce the number of votes in SE, and it's been working. While we keep seeing miraculous figures from war ravaged and unstable NE states.

Zik never for once made any tribal statements against SW. All he did was praise Ndiigbo, and you children of hate suffering from rabid Igbo hate rather than praise Your Own groups, resorted to bashing and denigrating Ndiigbo. Awolowo would be credited with introducing tribal bitter politics in Nigeria, Akintola was notorious for his Yoruba Ronu speech where he made a lot of Igbophobic remarks without provocation from Ndiigbo of that era.

You lots have always been children of hate and your hate can only lead you to downhill.

pazienza:



PRESIDENT Goodluck Jonathan met with a delegation of the Yoruba Council of Elders (YCE), led by Major-General Adeyinka Adebayo (retd), in the State House, on Thursday, as the leaders complained about being left out in the top six posts in the country.[b]

Now, like I keep saying, Yorubas must come to understand that the era they distorted narratives out of their innate hateful hearts against Ndiigbo and go Scot free is gone. Social media is the worst thing that ever happened to the Lagos-Ibadan media of Igbo hate and lies.

pazienza:
Now, let's look at the top six positions Yoruba delegates complained about being left out of, to GEJ

1.President
2.Vice President
3.Senate President
4.Speaker of the House of Representatives
5.Chief Justice of the Federation (CJF)
6.Deputy Senate President
7.Deputy Speaker, House of Representatives

The above is the power rankings in the Nigerian presidential system.

Yorubas were offered number 4 by PDP with GEJ support. Igbos were offered number 6.

Tinubu out of his innate Yoruba politics of hate, which they package as "suffersticated" politics, decided to single handedly renact Afonja-Alimi part 2, by supporting a Fulani man, Tambuwal, to defeat his Yoruba sister Mulikat.
The whole Yoruba race kept quiet and were cheering on their new Afonja.
Now few years down the line, they all started crying about being schemed out of GEJ government.

People of the world, can you lots judge this case fairly?

0monnak0da:


You are the one deluding yourself

Did they complain to Jonathan about ethnic cleansing of Yorubas ? Paricularly the sacking of 6 GMs at FAAN by Stella Oduah?
Jonathan himself said it was an anomaly that they were left out of the top 6 positions but there was nothing he could do about that .Those SIX positions include the Chief Justice of the Federation.
and even Jonathan's position
Why don't you focus on that?

The real question is WHAT DID THEY ASK FOR or did they not ask for anything maybe they just went to WAIL

We all know who the real wailers are


They asked for something Yes or no?

pazienza:


You are now shifting narratives again.
Your argument before now was that the cries about marginalization by Yoruba elders was not about top positions in the government, which Tinubu in typical Yoruba hateful politics, denied SW by replaying the Afonja-Alimi drama with another Fulani called Tambuwal.

But now I had showed you that the main bone of their contention was about the conspicuous absence of SW from those 6 top positions, you are now trying to shift ground again, throwing up different diversionary arguments to obfuscate issues.

Anyway, I think my job here is done.

It will be recorded in history that Tinubu out of hate and suffersticated politics of hate Yorubas are known for, decided to take SW position of power, which is number 4 in ranking, zoned by PDP and GEJ, and decided to give it to Tambuwal, with sinister motive of using the conspicuous absent of Yorubas in positions of power in GEJ government, which he artificially created himself, to spin narratives and turn the whole region against GEJ with cries of marginalization.

pazienza:


You are now shifting narratives again.
Your argument before now was that the cries about marginalization by Yoruba elders was not about top positions in the government, which Tinubu in typical Yoruba hateful politics, denied SW by replaying the Afonja-Alimi drama with another Fulani called Tambuwal.

But now I had showed you that the main bone of their contention was about the conspicuous absence of SW from those 6 top positions, you are now trying to shift ground again, throwing up different diversionary arguments to obfuscate issues.

Anyway, I think my job here is done.

It will be recorded in history that Tinubu out of hate and suffersticated politics of hate Yorubas are known for, decided to take SW position of power, which is number 4 in ranking, zoned by PDP and GEJ, and decided to give it to Tambuwal, with sinister motive of using the conspicuous absent of Yorubas in positions of power in GEJ government, which he artificially created himself, to spin narratives and turn the whole region against GEJ with cries of marginalization.

What did Jonathan offer to do at the end of the meeting

ALCOHOLKILLS:
yolloba should be happy now, they have won another 4 years of VP, 2023 will be interesting... I am so happy I would be be out of this country with my family God's willing

honeychild:
And this thread is why I was so angry with the South West voting pattern. How anyone can support a group of people and a party that hate and despise you so openly is beyond me. Yoruba are really under a curse.

EvilMetahuman:
mumu

na naija you go dey till 2023 and poverty go finish you and your family.

olori pelepe.

ALCOHOLKILLS:



olodo, my visa is already down, come and stop us if you can

naijaguy123456:
She was kind of right. Invite Ibo to come and eat and they will hold your own hand.

Yoruba in Lagos and south west brought Jonathan to power through our demonstration when the cabal will not let him comes in from the position of vice president. The moment Jonathan entered the Ibo took over his government as if it's an Igbo government.

We Yoruba fought for this democracy, our sons and daughters died for it. I remember Kudi abiola was murdered, pa Alfred a southern friend was murdered, simbiat adedeji was killed in broad daylight, Frank kokori another southern friend, adesanya almost lost his life, Gani fewehinmi was in and out of detention, sowore a SUG president in unilag ran overseas, Tinubu, Dele momodu etc ran overseas, Saro wiwa another southern friend was hanged for no reason but in all this no Ibo casualty.

All this time where were the Igbo or ndigbo? I forgot they were romancing abacha . Who organised the 2 million march for abacha ? An Igbo man kanu . Who went to court to stop election of abiola ? An Igbo man . Tell me just one Ibo political elite that fought for this democracy or the one that ran overseas as a result of opposing military rule ? There's just none of them.

Trust an Ibo man at your own risk.



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EvilMetahuman:
looks like some yorubas are yet to get the memo.

still forming sophistication

Omoluabi9:
The thing tire me I swear.

We Yoruba's dey foolish; we go dey form "most hospitable tribe" to our detriment.

Na wetin, Hausa take better pass us.