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Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by proudly9ja(m): 3:37pm On Sep 01, 2011
Omooba77:

So killing other people is the message! God show mercy. Don't be deceived when the revolution start all these people we run away with their family. We were there June12! So no one can deceive me with sweet talk again. Let them lead with their children at the back!!!!

Forget politics. This has nothing to do with Buhari or Bakare or anybody. This has to do with Nigerians! Are you not fed up? Have you visited a Nigerian hospital of late? Have you seen people dying because they don't have 300naira to 'register' at the hospital? Have not heard or seen armed robbery victims turned back at hospitals because they don't have police report? People are dying everyday Mr Man, dying unneccessarily. Roads are not repaired because someone is chopping the money and lives are lost daily on such roads. And they will come and be speaking grammar.

If we were a poor country, noone will complain. We will direct our  frustration to the heavens asking why we have not been blessed. But we ARE NOT POOR. The money Nigeria makes from oil is enough to give free basic health care and free education. We have got fertile land. While other countries boast of only one source of income, we have got plenty. Mineral resources, Oil, agriculture, man power, what has God not blessed us with? We don't have earthquakes or tsunamis, its little floods that kill hundreds in our land because our leaders fail to build proper drainages.
They keep the money and opress the masses. They send their children abroad and let our academic institutions rot.
Yet we sit down and say, we don't want to fight. ok o.

@Omoooba, I ask you, if someone you know, intentionally keeps you in perpetual poverty and stops you from attaining your goals while he sends his children abroad on your own father's wealth just because your father is not around, would you fold your arms and watch him and do nothing?

In the case of Nigeria, they are not only doing this to us, they are doing it to generations yet unborn.
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Omooba77: 3:40pm On Sep 01, 2011
Ask them in Tunisia,Egypt and of late Libya. Sir,have you ever read of french revolution. Or South Sudan John Garange and how do you separate the bombings from revolution!!!!!
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by proudly9ja(m): 3:47pm On Sep 01, 2011
@Omoooba, I ask you, if someone you know, intentionally keeps you in perpetual poverty and stops you from attaining your goals while he sends his children abroad on your own father's wealth just because your father is not around, would you fold your arms and watch him and do nothing?
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by tunnytox(m): 3:48pm On Sep 01, 2011
Then stay in your poverty, unemployment, lack of security and electricity etc. There's a saying in Yoruba that " ko fee ku kan ko ni joye ile baba e" He who doesn't want to die cannot inherit his father's throne. The choice is yours!
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Omooba77: 3:48pm On Sep 01, 2011
Nobody puts anyone in perpetual bondage,except your mind set! We think government is really our problem,but the problem is individualistic. Nigeria did not spoil in the days of GEJ,but right from 70s,because someone is the President doesnot lay or the blames at his feet. All I know I'm not an idiot neither a fool!!!!!
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by tunnytox(m): 3:56pm On Sep 01, 2011
Good for you!
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Pukkah: 4:07pm On Sep 01, 2011
Omooba77:

Nobody puts anyone in perpetual bondage,except your mind set! We think government is really our problem,but the problem is individualistic. Nigeria did not spoil in the days of GEJ,but right from 70s,because someone is the President doesnot lay or the blames at his feet. All I know I'm not an neither a fool!!!!!

But GEJ knew the state of the country before he contested and promised to fix the problems. Didn't he? What people are doing, which is the least they should do, is to hold him to his promise. Is this too much?

On another note, individuals did not step forward or promise that they would fix the problems. Mr Jonathan did and got the mandate of the individuals to do so. Can you see the difference? The collective mandate to deal with the problems is with Mr Jonathan.
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Demdem(m): 4:27pm On Sep 01, 2011
i do not see where Bakare advocated for killing in that speech.
He spoke the truth and we all should wake up. Simple.
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Roland17(m): 4:34pm On Sep 01, 2011
The sound of that voice gave me goose pimples, i was sooo attached to the strength of truth emanating from his tongue, lets be frank Nigerians, GEJ was a mistake.
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Demdem(m): 4:41pm On Sep 01, 2011
^^^ we knew before the elections that GEJ will be a disaster. BeAF and dem no gree
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by luluosas(m): 4:55pm On Sep 01, 2011
kodewrita:

scream all you want madam, It still doesnt change the past or the present. He's not someone I really want to hear from. Good or bad.

I would rather listen to a Durotoye tell me that change starts from where I am. I would pick an axe and follow a Soyinka if it became necessary. I would fund a Falana or Gani(R.I.P) court case if need be.

But I would not listen to a pastor who courts power and keeps alternately flirting with and bitching about men_in_power.

Its that simple.
I have never seen a blind person as blind as you are. May God forgive your evil allegiance to the PDP Government.
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Roland17(m): 4:59pm On Sep 01, 2011
My Favorite lines during the speech

"Foolish Nigerians Who Has Bewitched U?"

"Idiots How Do You Separate Jonathan From PDP

"GEJ is Living on OGOGORO 24hrs grin grin grin
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by luluosas(m): 5:05pm On Sep 01, 2011
Omooba77:

Ask them in Tunisia,Egypt and of late Libya. Sir,have you ever read of french revolution. Or South Sudan John Garange and how do you separate the bombings from revolution!!!!!
You are surely one of the reason we will never agree collectively to tackle the BIG problem we have in our hand. If YOU ALONE can do what the Tunisian man did, that finally sends Ben Ali packing, other Nigerians would have taken it from there. Instead of you to see that, YOU are actually an  IDIOTs being ruled by FOOLS, you are here screwing up your head as if, you know more than every one here.
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by PointB: 5:22pm On Sep 01, 2011
So because a section of Core North politicians are orchestrating bombing and a minority of vocal nairalanders are shouting their voice hoarse, the rest of the country should capitulated? Arrant nonsense.

Some people actually underestimate the magnitude of support GEJ has. For the avoidance of doubt, let us restate these support from the votes cast in 2011 elections.

SE - 95%
SS - 98%
SW - Over 80%
NC - Over 70%
NE - over 34%
NW - over 30%

So make no mistake, support is still very high in for GEJ in Nigeria, despite what these loud minorities and internet warriors would have us believe. If elections were to hold today between GEJ, Ribadu, and Buhari, GEJ will still trounced them. This is reality. Nigeria will vote a bridge builder - GEJ - over the bigot Buhari or green horn - Ribadu.

The know-all Bakare should should shut his dirty trap and stop provoking violence. When it was his turn to sacrifice for Nigeria, he was too timid to insist Okonjo Iweala would have been a better VP to Buhari, nor did he agree to step down as VP to allow a coalition. Bakera did not sacrifice his no brainer (VP) ambition for Nigeria, but today, to cover his failings, he first called law abiding citizens of Nigeria - ediots, and then demand they shed their blood - to make him relevant. This man refer to people who are trying their best to help this country move ahead as ediots. And low esteemed Nairalanders are asking you and I to look beyond his insult. To what? His incitement? How low do we stoop? Ok oo, those of you who are 'ediots' please stand up and be counted!

I am waiting to see the first ediot, to harken to this fool of a pastor.
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Omooba77: 5:43pm On Sep 01, 2011
Ok,let those individual give the man a breathing space. Those planting the bombs know themselves and God will judge everyone. Revolution is all about blood spilling sir!I'm not an idiot,nor my family. The man said after one year access him. When we keep on bombing the little we are building,when do we arrive at our destination??
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Omooba77: 5:50pm On Sep 01, 2011
I'm surprised a learned man like 'our pastor' will call over 150 million Nigeria fools. So pathetic,even in his own polling booth at Ikeja during the election,let us ask him what votes did CPC and Fresh candidates got? I will not support Buhari because he is part of our problem. Just like Babangida,God will allow them over us again!
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Omooba77: 6:11pm On Sep 01, 2011
I leave our Pastor and other like minded with this MATTHEW 5:22. God sees the intent of everyman. The day my Pastor preaching Jesus Christ and start self glorification, I quit that Church. When a man drives against the traffic,police collecting 'tolls',collapsing building, it is GEJ. Until will all assume collective responsibility this nation will not move forward,think not what your country can do for you,but what you can do for your country!
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by alexola20(m): 6:35pm On Sep 01, 2011
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by efisher(m): 7:08pm On Sep 01, 2011
Empty barrels make the loudest noise.
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by PointB: 7:21pm On Sep 01, 2011
Below is the latest table corruption index for 2010. If the bombing and violence in Nigeria is as a result of corruption, what do we think would have happened to the countries in red, below Nigeria? May Bakare can answer the question, since he attributed the political bombing to corruption.



Transparency international world corruption index


Country / Territory

CPI 2010 Score

CPI 2009 Score

CPI 2008 Score

SOURCE: CPI
1 Denmark 9.3 9.3 9.3
1 New Zealand 9.3 9.4 9.3
1 Singapore 9.3 9.2 9.2
4 Finland 9.2 8.9 9
4 Sweden 9.2 9.2 9.3
6 Canada 8.9 8.7 8.7
7 Netherlands 8.8 8.9 8.9
8 Australia 8.7 8.7 8.7
8 Switzerland 8.7 9 9
10 Norway 8.6 8.6 7.9
11 Iceland 8.5 8.7 8.9
11 Luxembourg 8.5 8.2 8.3
13 Hong Kong 8.4 8.2 8.1
14 Ireland 8 8 7.7
15 Austria 7.9 7.9 8.1
15 Germany 7.9 8 7.9
17 Barbados 7.8 7.4 7
17 Japan 7.8 7.7 7.3
19 Qatar 7.7 7 6.5
20 United Kingdom 7.6 7.7 7.7
21 Chile 7.2 6.7 6.9
22 Belgium 7.1 7.1 7.3
22 United States 7.1 7.5 7.3
24 Uruguay 6.9 6.7 6.9
25 France 6.8 6.9 6.9
26 Estonia 6.5 6.6 6.6
27 Slovenia 6.4 6.6 6.7
28 Cyprus 6.3 6.6 6.4
28 United Arab Emirates 6.3 6.5 5.9
30 Israel 6.1 6.1 6
30 Spain 6.1 6.1 6.5
32 Portugal 6 5.8 6.1
33 Botswana 5.8 5.6 5.8
33 Puerto Rico 5.8 5.8 5.8
33 Taiwan 5.8 5.6 5.7
36 Bhutan 5.7 5 5.2
37 Malta 5.6 5.2 5.8
38 Brunei 5.5 5.5 0
39 Korea (South) 5.4 5.5 5.6
39 Mauritius 5.4 5.4 5.5
41 Costa Rica 5.3 5.3 5.1
41 Oman 5.3 5.5 5.5
41 Poland 5.3 5 4.6
44 Dominica 5.2 5.9 6
45 Cape Verde 5.1 5.1 5.1
46 Lithuania 5 4.9 4.6
46 Macau 5 5.3 5.4
48 Bahrain 4.9 5.1 5.4
49 Seychelles 4.8 4.8 4.8
50 Hungary 4.7 5.1 5.1
50 Jordan 4.7 5 5.1
50 Saudi Arabia 4.7 4.3 3.5
53 Czech Republic 4.6 4.9 5.2
54 Kuwait 4.5 4.1 4.3
54 South Africa 4.5 4.7 4.9
56 Malaysia 4.4 4.5 5.1
56 Namibia 4.4 4.5 4.5
56 Turkey 4.4 4.4 4.6
59 Latvia 4.3 4.5 5
59 Slovakia 4.3 4.5 5
59 Tunisia 4.3 4.2 4.4
62 Croatia 4.1 4.1 4.4
62 Macedonia, FYR 4.1 3.8 3.6
62 Ghana 4.1 3.9 3.9
62 Samoa 4.1 4.5 4.4
66 Rwanda 4 3.3 3
67 Italy 3.9 4.3 4.8
68 Georgia 3.8 4.1 3.9
69 Brazil 3.7 3.7 3.5
69 Cuba 3.7 4.4 4.3
69 Montenegro 3.7 3.9 3.4
69 Romania 3.7 3.8 3.8
73 Bulgaria 3.6 3.8 3.6
73 El Salvador 3.6 3.4 3.9
73 Panama 3.6 3.4 3.4
73 Trinidad and Tobago 3.6 3.6 3.6
73 Vanuatu 3.6 3.2 2.9
78 China 3.5 3.6 3.6
78 Colombia 3.5 3.7 3.8
78 Greece 3.5 3.8 4.7
78 Lesotho 3.5 3.3 3.2
78 Peru 3.5 3.7 3.6
78 Serbia 3.5 3.5 3.4
78 Thailand 3.5 3.4 3.5
85 Malawi 3.4 3.3 2.8
85 Morocco 3.4 3.3 3.5
87 Albania 3.3 3.2 3.4
87 India 3.3 3.4 3.4
87 Jamaica 3.3 3 3.1
87 Liberia 3.3 3.1 2.4
91 Bosnia and Herzegovina 3.2 3 3.2
91 Djibouti 3.2 2.8 3
91 Gambia 3.2 2.9 1.9
91 Guatemala 3.2 3.4 3.1
91 Kiribati 3.2 2.8 3.1
91 Sri Lanka 3.2 3.1 3.2
91 Swaziland 3.2 3.6 3.6
98 Burkina Faso 3.1 3.6 3.5
98 Egypt 3.1 2.8 2.8
98 Mexico 3.1 3.3 3.6
101 Dominican Republic 3 3 3
101 Sao Tome and Principe 3 2.8 2.7
101 Tonga 3 3 2.4
101 Zambia 3 3 2.8
105 Algeria 2.9 2.8 3.2
105 Argentina 2.9 2.9 2.9
105 Kazakhstan 2.9 2.7 2.2
105 Moldova 2.9 3.3 2.9
105 Senegal 2.9 3 3.4
110 Benin 2.8 2.9 3.1
110 Bolivia 2.8 2.7 3
110 Gabon 2.8 2.9 3.1
110 Indonesia 2.8 2.8 2.6
110 Kosovo 2.8
110 Solomon Islands 2.8 2.8 2.9
116 Ethiopia 2.7 2.7 2.6
116 Guyana 2.7 2.6 2.6
116 Mali 2.7 2.8 3.1
116 Mongolia 2.7 2.7 3
116 Mozambique 2.7 2.5 2.6
116 Tanzania 2.7 2.6 3
116 Vietnam 2.7 2.7 2.7
123 Armenia 2.6 2.7 2.9
123 Eritrea 2.6 2.6 2.6
123 Madagascar 2.6 3 3.4
123 Niger 2.6 2.9 2.8
127 Belarus 2.5 2.4 2
127 Ecuador 2.5 2.2 2
127 Lebanon 2.5 2.5 3
127 Nicaragua 2.5 2.5 2.5
127 Syria 2.5 2.6 2.1
127 Timor-Leste 2.5 2.2 2.2
127 Uganda 2.5 2.5 2.6
134 Azerbaijan 2.4 2.3 1.9
134 Bangladesh 2.4 2.4 2.1
134 Honduras 2.4 2.5 2.6
134 Nigeria 2.4 2.5 2.7
[b]134 Philippines 2.4 2.4 2.3
134 Sierra Leone 2.4 2.2 1.9
134 Togo 2.4 2.8 2.7
134 Ukraine 2.4 2.2 2.5
134 Zimbabwe 2.4 2.2 1.8
143 Maldives 2.3 2.5 2.8
143 Mauritania 2.3 2.5 2.8
143 Pakistan 2.3 2.4 2.5
146 Cameroon 2.2 2.2 2.3
146 Côte d´Ivoire 2.2 2.1 2
146 Haiti 2.2 1.8 1.4
146 Iran 2.2 1.8 2.3
146 Libya 2.2 2.5 2.6
146 Nepal 2.2 2.3 2.7
146 Paraguay 2.2 2.1 2.4
146 Yemen 2.2 2.1 2.3
154 Cambodia 2.1 2 1.8
154 Central African Republic 2.1 2 2
154 Comoros 2.1 2.3 2.5
154 Congo 2.1 1.9 1.9
154 Guinea-Bissau 2.1 1.9 1.9
154 Kenya 2.1 2.2 2.1
154 Laos 2.1 2 2
154 Papua New Guinea 2.1 2.1 2
154 Russia 2.1 2.2 2.1
154 Tajikistan 2.1 2 2
164 Congo, Dem Rep 2 1.9 1.7
164 Guinea 2 1.8 1.6
164 Kyrgyzstan 2 1.9 1.8
164 Venezuela 2 1.9 1.9
168 Angola 1.9 1.9 1.9
168 Equatorial Guinea 1.9 1.8 1.7
170 Burundi 1.8 1.8 1.9
171 Chad 1.7 1.6 1.6
172 Sudan 1.6 1.5 1.6
172 Turkmenistan 1.6 1.8 1.8
172 Uzbekistan 1.6 1.7 1.8
175 Iraq 1.5 1.5 1.3
176 Afghanistan 1.4 1.3 1.5
176 Burma 1.4 1.4 1.3
178 Somalia 1.1 1.1 1
[/b]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/oct/26/corruption-index-2010-transparency-international
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by holahabib: 9:09pm On Sep 01, 2011
ttt
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Omooba77: 10:38pm On Sep 01, 2011
If corruption is the reason for bombing have ever asked yourself how many if these almajeris know what is corruption If not that people are behind them providing the bomb and cars. So in the bible of our pastor killing in the name of revolution is the solution? Let us not deceive ourselves power corrupts!
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by emiye(m): 11:21pm On Sep 01, 2011
PointB:

So because a section of Core North politicians are orchestrating bombing and a minority of vocal nairalanders are shouting their voice hoarse, the rest of the country should capitulated? Arrant nonsense.

Some people actually underestimate the magnitude of support GEJ has. For the avoidance of doubt, let us restate these support from the votes cast in 2011 elections.

SE - 95%
SS - 98%
SW - Over 80%
NC - Over 70%
NE - over 34%
NW - over 30%

So make no mistake, support is still very high in for GEJ in Nigeria, despite what these loud minorities and internet warriors would have us believe. If elections were to hold today between GEJ, Ribadu, and Buhari, GEJ will still trounced them. This is reality. Nigeria will vote a bridge builder - GEJ - over the bigot Buhari or green horn - Ribadu.

The know-all Bakare should should shut his dirty trap and stop provoking violence. When it was his turn to sacrifice for Nigeria, he was too timid to insist Okonjo Iweala would have been a better VP to Buhari, nor did he agree to step down as VP to allow a coalition. Bakera did not sacrifice his no brainer (VP) ambition for Nigeria, but today, to cover his failings, he first called law abiding citizens of Nigeria - ediots, and then demand they shed their blood - to make him relevant. This man refer to people who are trying their best to help this country move ahead as ediots. And low esteemed Nairalanders are asking you and I to look beyond his insult. To what? His incitement? How low do we stoop? Ok oo, those of you who are 'ediots' please stand up and be counted!

I am waiting to see the first ediot, to harken to this fool of a pastor.


Even with the magic numbers in the south east and southsouth, Jonathan had[b] less than 60% of the total votes cast[/b]
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by lucabrasi(m): 11:37pm On Sep 01, 2011
listened to pastor bakare's speech yesterday and it really connected with me and most importantly the state of nigeria at the moment while i totally agree with his speech,i believe like some have pointed out on here religious,tribal and gerontocratic considerations as usual will serve as a demon to defeat any perceived revolutionary ideals,
as for people advocating self revolution,like i have always said if i live abroad or outside nigeria and i am not ready to come lead the revolution,kickstart or stimulate it then i don't have the moral right to ask any nigerian to do the same,its not an easy move to endure violence or death for a political ideal.
pastor bakare has earned that right due to his antecedents as a lawyer in gain fawehinmi's chambers,as a religious and social crusader and lately as a politician.
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by thought: 11:44pm On Sep 01, 2011
Kobojunkie:

Here's a news flash for you . . . No one needs to make excuses for violent terrorists anymore. They are NOW part of the REALITY of Nigeria, and we all know WHY they exist.  You didn't expect the situation to continue without it excalating to this point did you?

Please, lets stop acting like mor-ons and open our eyes to what we have ALLOWED. IT IS HERE! That is all the man is trying to get you to see.


@Kobojunkie,

Please, can you tell us why the violent terrorist exist in Nigeria? is it because of the bad roads, or corruption level or may be because of the poor state of our western educational institutions? What does the name Boko Haram mean to you?- it is the fight against corruption or bad government or poor infrastructure or may be poor (western) educational system. . . . . . . . . .?

You are quick to call people mor-ons here even though you are defending the fact that you are a f001 and an 1d10t [s](and you expect us to listen to you- please don't quote me ooooh. . . . . I am not trying to insult you. . . . . quote your Pastor)[/s]. . . . . . . (of course he said Nigerians, not just Nigerians in Nigeria).  . . .

. . .you sound like a self justifying individual. . . . . . . . . . you keep telling others to read and comprehend the posts, apparently, you are the greatest defaulter. . . . . . .  . . . well, here's a news flash people lost their love ones in the bomb blast, these are people who have a right to life just as you do. . . . . . . . so when you come here to say what you KNOW or better still THINK is the "REALITY" in Nigeria (and boko haram) be sure to get your facts right by "reading/listening and comprehending" whatever news media you are into.


I am sorry to say that Bakare did not and does not have the moral justification to complain about Nigeria
. Yes, Nigeria is bad - FACT but unfortunately he decided to "wine and dine" with someone like Buhari. . . . . .who wanted to get into power by playing a religious, sectional and tribe based card. . . . . . . . .is that the type of Nigeria Bakare wants? it that the vision he has about a Nigerian leader?'. . . . . .was he not aware that Buhari was using votes from the North as a tool. . . . ,  . . . .was Buhari's support in the North based on the fact that he was the best candidate or because he was from the North?  did he not attend the rallies?. . . . . . . If Buhari won, what moral justification would he have to rule both the North and South. . . . . . . . . yet Bakare is bitter that he lost. . . . .  . . .in an election where both the PDP and CPC rigged. . . .

Even if that election was held by the USA and it was freest and fairest, Buhari would have NEVER won. . . . . .e[b]ven if Buhari contested against Tu face or D banj or even chief zebrudaya of the new masquerade of old or against nobody, he would have lost . . . because he was and is still seen as a religious fanatic and bigot. . . . .cards he gladly used to scoop up votes. . . . ,  . [/b].


. . . . . .so then @Kobojunkie, if I asked you to pick a "messiah" to lead Nigeria out of our problems, both you and Bakare would jump up and bring Buhari forward and then beat your chest and say "I have done justice to my fathers land". . . . . . . . . . . . oh please spare me the hypocrisy. . . . . . . . I repeat, he does not have the moral justification to talk about the Nigerian state.


As I see it, it is either Bakare picked Buhari because he was the best candidate for Nigeria or he picked Buhari because he was craving for political power. . . . . . . . .so then my dear @Kobojunkie make you pick from the options above and let us know why he is morally justified to talk about Nigeria and then and only then, can you go ahead to tell us what he is trying to make us see that we have not seen and then, may be we might understand why we should accept your invitation to your table for "f001s and idi0ts". . . . . . . . 
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Beaf: 11:45pm On Sep 01, 2011
Lol @ Bitter losers abusing innocent Nigerians, themselves and their children. What will Bakare do next? Whip out an AK and massacre the people in his church? grin
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Nobody: 11:46pm On Sep 01, 2011
Interesting discussions on this thread,fact is those who support GEJ might be academically intelligent but intellectually deficient. Bakare/Buhari would have taken Nigeria back to a society where discipline would be instilled in the populace,but most people are myopic thinkers,hence they chose 'bridge builders' and the bridge builders by the advice of some 'Northern elders' went to negotiate with the terrorists,they also removed the President of the Court of appeal a la Ladoja style,because the man is principled and honest.
Bob Marley said 'you can fool some people sometime,but you cant fool all the people all the time.
So you choose fellow Nigerian, if you want to be ruled by a party with 70years+ fools at the helm of affairs,or if you will choose to walk the informed path.
What we practise in Nigeria is not democracy,that's why Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe after decades of wickedness wants to import the Nigerian model to his country,because our model of cooking up results is impressive,or I dare say impeccable.
God have mercy on Nigeria!
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Kobojunkie: 12:45am On Sep 02, 2011
Actually, it is simple! When you create an environment like Nigeria has become today, YOU FOSTER VIOLENCE -- even of the kind you notice today in the North, which is not new by the way since we have been witnessing the very same from the SOUTH for well over a decade now. Or have you forgotten MEND and what drove those men/youths to VIOLENCE? Let's STOP Being MYOPIC and Stop with the FINGER POINTING and address the issue.

Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Sudan . . . these are examples of countries where we see the very same pattern, and it all escalated at the end of the day. It is silly to DENY what is apparent.

thought:

You are quick to call people mor-ons here even though you are defending the fact that you are a f001 and an 1d10t [s](and you expect us to listen to you- please don't quote me ooooh. . . . . I am not trying to insult you. . . . . quote your Pastor)[/s]. . . . . . . (of course he said Nigerians, not just Nigerians in Nigeria).  . . .
I didn't call anyone a slowpoke . . . simply posited, as the man did, that ONLY MORONS/FOOLS/IDIOTS ALLOW their DESTINY continue to go to waste in the way we continue to. Now, I know some people will try to claim they are not of this group -- sure, but at the end of the day, Nigeria is still ruled by less than 0.001 % and this number DOES NOT CONSTITUTE the SMARTEST /Most intelligent of us all, even with the levels of education we attain WORLD WIDE.


thought:

. . .you sound like a self justifying individual. . . . . . . . . . you keep telling others to read and comprehend the posts, apparently, you are the greatest defaulter. . . . . . .
Does simply telling me I am the greatest defaulter mean much when you fail to explain exactly what LINE or REASONING in that speech I defaulted on?? lol
thought:

  . . . well, here's a news flash people lost their love ones in the bomb blast, these are people who have a right to life just as you do. . . . . . . . so when you come here to say what you KNOW or better still THINK is the "REALITY" in Nigeria (and boko haram) be sure to get your facts right by "reading/listening and comprehending" whatever news media you are into.[b].

First of all . . . what has the above to do with COMPREHENDING THE SPEECH? I mean this is exactly what I have been harping on. Rather than trying to drag everything else into THIS SPEECH, I will suggest you do exactly what I have told others to do, and that is READ THE SPEECH, AS-IS(you know what that means, right?). Then digest the message first so you can capably understand it's meaning and hence regurgitate reasoning within the CONTEXT given.
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by thought: 2:40am On Sep 02, 2011
Kobojunkie:
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Does simply telling me I am the greatest defaulter mean much when you fail to explain exactly what LINE or REASONING in that speech I defaulted on?? lol
First of all . . . what has the above to do with COMPREHENDING THE SPEECH? I mean this is exactly what I have been harping on. Rather than trying to drag
everything else into THIS SPEECH, I will suggest you do exactly what I have told others to do, and that is READ THE SPEECH, AS-IS(you know what that means, right?). Then digest the message first so you can capably understand it's meaning and hence regurgitate reasoning within the CONTEXT given.


The MESSAGE. . . . . . . . . people here say we should focus on the message not the messenger. . . . . . . . . . . . .My question is this: if you were in a seminar or lecture or whatever and the topic was on say "democracy in a nation". . . . . . and then, they call the name of the speaker/ author or MESSENGER and it happens to be Mugabe or Gaddaffi or Mubarak, do you think the same MESSAGE would have the same meaning if the speaker were to be Obama, Cameron or Sakorzy etc. . . . . . . . .believe me the answer would be NO. . . . . . . . .because people would question the moral justification the Mugabes et al have to present such lectures. . . . . . .  . . . . .  . BELIEVE ME, THE MESSENGER IS IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY WHEN HE IS THE AUTHOR OF THE MESSAGE.


But even if I were to go into the MESSAGE you have been talking about comprehending and digesting et al. . . . .just see the extracts below. . . . . 

OAM4J:

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The Battle for National Survival – Excerpts Part 1

The same forces that brought the wrath of God upon the earth of Noah in what you and I call the flood of waters, The presence of violence and corruption -you cannot separate violence from corruption.

Unintelligent men talk from both sides of the mouth – they do not know what they are saying. Look, it is unlike Nigerians to commit suicide by bombing themselves.
When Nigerians become suicide bombers, you should be saying Come Lord Jesus!
Because it means the hazardous times prophesied by Paul through the Holy Spirit that in the last days perilous times shall come.

Those who dig their hand deep into corruption are the ones who orchestrated the violence upon our land.[/b], Because a people that are pushed to the wall must react one way or the other, But my real issue is this; corruption is ravaging this nation, has eaten deep into the fabric of this nation, and violence is already here, as a twin devil.

In the present dispensation, it does not matter where you hide, it does not matter how tall your security measures or how toughened they have become, it does not matter who is watching (guarding) you, remember it was the private guards of Indira Ghandi that shot her. And when the justice of God will start, the mill of God grinds slowly but surely. It does not matter where you hide, whether Aso villa or Bottom villa, you will be shot where you are, except you right the wrongs.



Hell on earth – that is what Nigeria has become, Hell on earth! Hell on earth – that is what this nation has become. This is hell on earth!! Just imagine how many people have died since the advent of the PDP.

IS THE PROBLEM THE PDP . . . . .(did we not have rulers before PDP, was Nigeria better then). . . . . .  the ANPP member of yesterday, is today's PDP member and tommorow's CPC, APGA, PRP. . . .  . .  .endless list. . . member,  . . . . . . . . . . . . . We all know Buhari did not start with CPC, he only moved there to run for the presidency. . . . . . . .  . . . . .I mean . . . . . . . . we are not like the US or UK that have life- party members that stick to one party and believe in party policies and beliefs to death. . . . . . .

By saying the problem is PDP he is being partisan and only talking as a bitter politician. . . . . . . . . ,  . . . .The cause of Nigeria's problem is YOU and ME. . .  . . . . it is caused by leaders who go there to loot  and run the country down. . . . . . .  .be it PDP, CPC, ACN or ABC. . . . . . and that is a FACT. . . . . .if CPC enters the realm of power today, they would become the biggest party in the country and  most of the current PDP, AC . . . . . .etc. . . . (thieves and looters) members would DE-CAMP and become CPC members. . . . . . . our problem is not just the party, it is the people that make the party. . . . 

 


What you have seen is the tip of the iceberg – a people deprived and pushed to the wall, will be ready to die but they will take you with them. And they will target your most noble institutions, children, wives, You wait and see.

[b]THIS OBVIOUSLY IS BH bomb blast. . . . . . . .APPARENTLY THEY HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED OF "UNDER-WESTERN EDUCATIONAL-ISM" by our government and so they have been pushed to the wall- be honest to yourselves. . ,  .




But then again, did he make some sense YES, but even if a message is right, the TIMING, LOCATION, MESSENGER AND CONTEXT IN WHICH IT IS SAID CAN MAKE IT INAPPROPRIATE. . . . . .
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Kobojunkie: 3:03am On Sep 02, 2011
thought:

The MESSAGE. . . . . . . . . people here say we should focus on the message not the messenger. . . . . . . . . . . . .My question is this: if you were in a seminar or lecture or whatever and the topic was on say "democracy in a nation". . . . . . and then, they call the name of the speaker/ author or MESSENGER and it happens to be Mugabe or Gaddaffi or Mubarak, do you think the same MESSAGE would have the same meaning if the speaker were to be Obama, Cameron or Sakorzy etc. . . . . . . . .believe me the answer would be NO. . . . . . . . .because people would question the moral justification the Mugabes et al have to present such lectures. . . . . . .  . . . . .  . BELIEVE ME, THE MESSENGER IS IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY WHEN HE IS THE AUTHOR OF THE MESSAGE.

This is where you and I are different. If you do not listen to what the likes of Mugabe, Gaddaffi, Mubarak has to say, how then will you ever know how they think if your goal is to beat them at their game? How then will you know when IT IS NOT THE CASE that YOU are the problem in it all?

Even in the Bible, the devil who is supposed to be the Father of all lies, did state some facts. However, many of those he spoke this to were too arrogant and stuck in their ways(they, like you, believed nothing he says means much), they ignored him and paid dearly for it. The point here is, no matter who is speaking, if YOU ARE not interested in being sure you first UNDERSTAND the message, then DO NOT BOTHER COMMENTING ON IT(the message) AT ALL, as you will only yourself to be just as ignorant as those who you pretend to be better than -- in this case, those whose message you hate or refuse.

thought:

But even if I were to go into the MESSAGE you have been talking about comprehending and digesting et al. . . . .just see the extracts below. . . . .

But then again, did he make some sense YES, but even if a message is right, the TIMING, LOCATION, MESSENGER AND CONTEXT IN WHICH IT IS SAID CAN MAKE IT INAPPROPRIATE. . . . . .

Cut the bull, and READ . . . at least to save yourself. Going on with this arrogant postering is not helping you. What has timing, location etc to do with the message? The message was to youths and if you had BOTHERED to read it . . . you would have noted that it was actually appropriate since these are the same youths who have protested in the past and are supposed to be the future.

GOSH!!!! Why is READING so hard . . . even to save your own life??
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Omooba77: 6:47am On Sep 02, 2011
Buhari is not the messiah,part of the oligarchy that destroy this nation. Thank God he can never win again,God never told me he will rule us,I quote a man of God I know. I was part of June 12 army,I saw colleagues short and everybody including MKO ran abroad and now want same scenario and they will come back as heroes. We will solve our problems,give GEJ a chance!
Re: Pastor Bakare Revolutionary Speech! - Nigerians Are Idiots Ruled By Fools! by Omooba77: 8:08am On Sep 02, 2011
Let us think about what we can contribute instead of what we can destroy. Nigeria is a funny and unique place. Why we they incite people and destroy their future,why our children are sleeping in the comfort of their rooms. Kobojunkie shud think about her life and future,this myopic view about life takes nobody anywhere.

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