dochenaj:
The teaching hospital would be state of the art and would gulp a huge chunk of that 6Billion naira.

desiredhome:

Your teaching/practicing is anti-christianity which opposes the teaching of Christ......
I am in the system and I know what I am saying......if you have one out of a million that may be on scholarship it's insignificant and I also know most less advantage people are only assisted by individual in the church not the church..........

Talking of education being expensive, you can't compare a private business school owner to a church school,.........
Church school were built on donations.....

collecting from the members/society in any form of donations and the society/majority of the members can't afford such schools is evil and this is the reason wickedness abounds in the society........

babajero:
All the taxes your forefathers and foremothers payed, upto to even you and your generation to the Nigerian government what have you benefited from it?

djon78:




See I don't really understand some of you guys arguments at all


Was the university opened to just cater to the poor

Won't the university pay workers?
Won't they build infrastructures?
And many other things

So how will they do that


Covenant university is not even the most expensive private university in Nigeria. There school fees is not up to half a million Naira. It's even cheap

Afe Babalola university fees are in millions, just like Atiku abubakar university in millions

Education is not cheap anywhere


Look at Nigeria because government subsidizes university education, they can't even pay lecturers therefore there is always strike

There is no where in the world education is cheap

The problem with many of our people is ignorance. Simple

Nigerians studying in Ghana pays school fees in millions. I had two close relatives that studied there and I Know how expensive there education was.

Covenant university offers scholarship to a lot of poor students. But coming here to criticize them to me is just foolishness simple

They opened university to succeed and build up men and women.
And they are doing that


Covenant university graduates are doing very well in the corporate Nigeria, they are very employable. They are the best private university in Nigeria and among the best in Africa.
They are leading by example

So there is absolutely nothing wrong they have done.
They are on the right path

Even there secondary Schools are doing well. 5 of my nephew's and nieces are schooling there
And there. And they are not giving there parents trouble. Very well behaved. And there school fees is very cheap compared to all these very expensive private secondary School many big men children go to spoil and corrupt.

desiredhome:

If you know the true meaning of CHURCH you won't be reasoning this way, Nigeria is among poorest in the world despite all it's resources is because ignorant and greed not just from the politicians, including you and your pastorprenours.....
You keep referring to the government as being responsible for the poor, but you still collect from these same poor people without giving back to the society that is the evil in you wicked pastorprenours, taking advantage of the poor........

May be you are among the poor that is contributing, most of you play nija bet with your money and still want to dictate to the church how to spend it's resources. So ones you are a member of any church, the responsibility of educating such person now falls on the church not the government? Is this how Europe and other continent develop ? Very irresponsible way of reasoning.

desiredhome:

You don't understand because you choose not to understand.......
If dangote decides to establish a school today, no matter how expensive it is no body will complaining etc .....
When you use church name to establish a school, that school should be made available to the people that contributed towards it......
If that school was built without members contribution no body will talk about it ........

Advocate of members, ones you give offering ito church or mosque , the church / mosque takes over your education not the government, this is how advanced nation developed , what an irresponsible way of reasoning ?

desiredhome:

The road you go through is done by government, the free school you attended and your relatives who can't attend your expensive private schools was built by government.......etc.
Government provides basic amenities with the tax money to make life easy for you......

babajero:
After all the huge taxes, tell me any of those things you mentioned there that is not payed to access them?

desiredhome:

You don't understand because you choose not to understand.......
If dangote decides to establish a school today, no matter how expensive it is no body will complaining etc .....
When you use church name to establish a school, that school should be made available to the people that contributed towards it......
If that school was built without members contribution no body will talk about it ........

desiredhome:

If you know the true meaning of CHURCH you won't be reasoning this way, Nigeria is among poorest in the world despite all it's resources is because ignorant and greed not just from the politicians, including you and your pastorprenours.....
You keep referring to the government as being responsible for the poor, but you still collect from these same poor people without giving back to the society that is the evil in you wicked pastorprenours, taking advantage of the poor........

djon78:



You are not making any sense walahi

There is no iota of you understanding the facts

So because a church opens a school it will not do things for it to succeed

Honestly your reasoning i don't even know how to explain it

The school won't pay workers or build facilities

Do you know that Harvard University was opened by the church. Likewise Oxford and Cambridge.

Most of these top universities around the world were opened by the church in there history


I am done arguing this issue with you

Try and tomorrow open a school for the poor, after all others doing it no get two head.

Adieu

BennyDGreat:


Thank you very much for the questions.

We both know concrete data isn't readily available in Nigeria and it's hard collating data from individual organisation.....

However I will cite an example I am well familiar with around that axis. There's a restaurant opposite Living faith, the church that controls Covenant University....

When they started the project of relocating the church down there and building the 50,100 capacity auditorium in the late 90's, this restaurant owner was a beneficiary of the economic activity there.

She was a small food seller somewhere in Alimosho when the church called for vendors who could supply food to site workers. She was picked and the rest is history.

Look at where she is today and the millions she rakes in a month courtesy of a project....now imagine other beneficiaries both big and small that I don't have knowledge of...think about it

djon78:




See I don't really understand some of you guys arguments at all


Was the university opened to just cater to the poor

Won't the university pay workers?
Won't they build infrastructures?
And many other things

So how will they do that


Covenant university is not even the most expensive private university in Nigeria. There school fees is not up to half a million Naira. It's even cheap

Afe Babalola university fees are in millions, just like Atiku abubakar university in millions

Education is not cheap anywhere


Look at Nigeria because government subsidizes university education, they can't even pay lecturers therefore there is always strike

There is no where in the world education is cheap

The problem with many of our people is ignorance. Simple

Nigerians studying in Ghana pays school fees in millions. I had two close relatives that studied there and I Know how expensive there education was.

Covenant university offers scholarship to a lot of poor students. But coming here to criticize them to me is just foolishness simple

They opened university to succeed and build up men and women.
And they are doing that


Covenant university graduates are doing very well in the corporate Nigeria, they are very employable. They are the best private university in Nigeria and among the best in Africa.
They are leading by example

So there is absolutely nothing wrong they have done.
They are on the right path

Even there secondary Schools are doing well. 5 of my nephew's and nieces are schooling there
And there. And they are not giving there parents trouble. Very well behaved. And there school fees is very cheap compared to all these very expensive private secondary School many big men children go to spoil and corrupt.

desiredhome:

The nairabet strategy is same method your pastorprenours are using on you ......
One day you will understand,......

desiredhome:

The same question being asked here, your pastorprenours will command you to bring 10% of every income to them, different types of sacrificial seeds, different contributions including church school building contributions ...etc at the end of the you still cry/blame government for your foolishness.........
If your pastors were of God, all these payments you make is to assist/support the inefficiency of government,..... same way government is using tax payers money to build the society. .....life is about humanity......
One day you eye go clear.......

CheapHomes1:


if concrete data isnt available, how are you able to draw all these conclusions?

you had claimed that there are businesses around covenant university hence my question. now you are talking about a restaurant owner who was picked from Alimosho in Lagos state and all your grammar has been about businesses in ogun state. that still leaves us with these questions unanswered...

Which businesses are around covenant university ota that will benefit from the building of schools of law and medicine?

Which food vendors will have increased patronage due to increase in number of students? Where will these vendors be situated? How many number of students will that be?

Where are these items "cement, sand, gravel, human resource (what human resources), iron works...etc going to come from in Ogun state?

How have pharmaceuticals in Shagamu and Ilisan been enhanced due to the presence of teaching hospitals in those areas? Can you provide concrete data?

BennyDGreat:


Read my submission again, you will get my thoughts clearly.

We both don't have concrete data to prove any of our points.

I gave you an example I am familiar with...the woman I mentioned now operates opposite Canaanland in OTA, Ogun state...has a massive building and employs not less than 15 people.

Ogun state has many places like Itele, Abeokuta, Aiyetoro that can supply sand....

Pharmaceuticals like Neros, Drugfield are in OTA...if the teaching hospital needs drugs that these pharmaceuticals have. It's pretty much easier. It saves the pharmaceutical transport cost... that's a solid revenue point over time

CheapHomes1:


Who are the "we" that have concrete data?

I have read your submission and it doesn't follow. Your argument all along is that development will come to Ogun state because of the establishment of the school of medicine and law at CU. You also claimed that there are businesses AROUND CU that will be positively affected. You now gave an example of a woman from alimosho. With your example, you ended up striking down your argument that it is those in Ogun state that will benefit since it is a woman from alimosho in Lagos that ended up providing food in canaanlabd and not someone from Ogun state.

Now you are all over the place contradicting yourself. At first you said "There's a restaurant opposite Living faith, the church that controls Covenant University....", now you are saying that there's a woman that operates opposite canaanland. Is being opposite canaanland the same as being opposite living faith church?

You still left my questions unanswered.

if concrete data isnt available, how are you able to draw all these conclusions?

you had claimed that there are businesses around covenant university hence my question. now you are talking about a restaurant owner who was picked from Alimosho in Lagos state and all your grammar has been about businesses in ogun state. that still leaves us with these questions unanswered...

Which businesses are around covenant university ota that will benefit from the building of schools of law and medicine?

Which food vendors will have increased patronage due to increase in number of students? Where will these vendors be situated? How many number of students will that be?

Where are these items "cement, sand, gravel, human resource (what human resources), iron works...etc going to come from in Ogun state?

How have pharmaceuticals in Shagamu and Ilisan been enhanced due to the presence of teaching hospitals in those areas? Can you provide concrete data?

BennyDGreat:


There's no need for forth and back..if you have concrete data that the establishment of a school of law and medicine by Covenant University will have no effect on Ogun state in general, I will accept your submission.

The woman I made mention of now benefits the Ogun state economy....I only made reference to Alimosho in my earlier posts because that's where she was resident at the time...she now runs and lives in Ogun state.....I hope you get it now...

There are currently vendors within the University community earning a living and employing others....

I already gave you places where sand could come from within the state.

How can you one even say a 6bilion investment within a state contributes nothing to development in a state?

babajero:
No body is pressured or threatened to pay any money in the church, and what the church does all over in terms of charity can ever be equalled by any religion, not even your secret cult tagged islam. I pray your life and the life of your unborn generations be like the kind of society the Nigerian government is building.

desiredhome:

A typical reasoning of a sheeple/gullible,
What makes you think you are better than the Muslim you keep accusing?......you hypocrite?
you are even more dangerous in your ignorance?
It's excess greed that make people fall victim to scammers........this is the reason you are being use as money making machine.......

franciseke81:


So organizations likes world bank that invested 8m dollars to build African development center at covenant university, Africa Development Bank, Bill and Melinda gates , United Nations etc all investing there don't know what they are doing
When organizations and individuals identify not work in any sphere of life they continue to contribute in order to advance such vision
Critics, babblers and vein talkers like you will continue to do their work to pull down other people's work.

desiredhome:


How has that removed Nigeria from being the world capital of poverty?....
In your organization you call church over 70% are poor (suffering and smiling), these same poor people amongst you give with their widows might, and their money are being used to build those structures or whatever, yet you claim education is not for the poor......
So why collecting from them in the name of church?.....
The same schools you build in church name can only be accessed by majority of the corrupt politicians you accuse of destroying the country through looting,..... aren't you corrupt as well and part of the destruction of Nigeria?.......
The politicians and religious cabals are taking advantage of your poverty mindset and you sycophants without brain who can't ask questions are busy shouting up and down in confusion and frustration.......
Nigerian is a blessed country.......
Shalom

franciseke81:


Mumu, so the poor most attend church universities before they can make it in life. How many of Nigeria doctors, professors engineers industrialist , etc attended church universities.?
People that did not attend any university are also making it in life, your hate for the church is obviously affecting your sense of reasoning.

CheapHomes1:


Can you show me where I said or didn't say? You are the one that said. You cherry picking that's why we going back and forth.

1. Who are the "we" that have concrete data?

2. Now you are all over the place contradicting yourself. At first you said "There's a restaurant opposite Living faith, the church that controls Covenant University....", now you are saying that there's a woman that operates a restaurant opposite canaanland. Is being opposite canaanland the same as being opposite living faith church?

3. if concrete data isnt available, how are you able to draw all these conclusions?

4. If someone all the way from alimosho Lagos was brought in as a food vendor, how does buttress your argument that the Ogun state will be developed by the establishment of schools of law and medicine?

5. Which businesses are around covenant university ota that will benefit from the building of schools of law and medicine?

6. Which food vendors will have increased patronage due to increase in number of students? Where will these vendors be situated? How many number of students will that be?

7. Is it only sand that is in this question?

Where are these items "cement, sand, gravel, human resource (what human resources), iron works...etc going to come from in Ogun state?

8. How have pharmaceuticals in Shagamu and Ilisan been enhanced due to the presence of teaching hospitals in those areas? Can you provide concrete data?

BennyDGreat:

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I have answered some of these questions in previous posts....my question to you...do you have concrete data to challenge my claims? Give me and I will say no more