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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by Lukuluku69(m): 1:37pm On Jan 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It's a sacred secrets that has been revealed long time ago but i want many to know how those pagans got the idea before the birth of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus! smiley

Lol

But you guys said God never revealed nor inspired any other. Action aside the Israelites. So who was giving out God's secret?
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:50pm On Jan 20, 2023
No matter what they say as long as they're unable to find such in their community they supposed to sense that something is wrong somewhere.
Throughout the world today a religion is known for terrorism and it's not just the News but what is happening here in Nigeria so they can't deny it but News from afar that you can't verify within your community whereas members of this same group are within your community without a single person caught in the act! undecided

And in the oversea countries where we believe they have the best system these people claim JWs were caught in the act yet instead of sending them to prison they're demanding for money!

I remember when many people were accusing Michael Jackson of child molestation the man never mind and after going to court they will ask him to pay because the cases are shady and his managers will advise him to pay so as to continue his career. But the day Michael died all those people came shedding tears and confessing that everything was lies just to extort money from the kindhearted man! embarassed

So let them continue crying up and down as long as they're saying there's no evidence of God's existence simply because they can't see him then their cries over what people say about God's organization is unjustified if they can't see a JW in their neighbourhood caught in such act! smiley

Aemmyjah:

You see why Janosky rightly called him Mayn ment cos he is indeed a person wey don ment
Someone he does not know anything about but converse with on NL. He calls him a rapist. Is that not symptoms of dementia?
Just as a mad man will call normal people mad
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:56pm On Jan 20, 2023
Those aren't God's secret rather it's what God declared in the presence of all the angels in heaven when Satan, Adam and Eve rebel against God's sovereignty.
So it's the demons (fallen angels) present that day that are creating different ideas just to discredit what God said that day so that when it happens faithless people will say it's common everywhere! John 10:8 smiley

Lukuluku69:
Lol
But you guys said God never revealed nor inspired any other. Action aside the Israelites. So who was giving out God's secret?
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 3:09pm On Jan 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe in the existence of Gods?

Because there are records of eyewitnesses in virtually all the religions across the globe! smiley

What is the definition of Eye Witness, kind sire?
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 3:10pm On Jan 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Just as you choose to believe the stories of people in the news without being an eyewitness i also chose to believe the stories found in the Bible without being an eyewitness! wink

Do you know what this term 'evidence' means?
You can use the dictionary if you want
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 3:13pm On Jan 20, 2023
orisa37:
That JESUS IS THE RIGHTEOUS.
Oh here he comes again. How are you sire? Have you seen any evidence that corroborates your claim?
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 3:13pm On Jan 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Have you found one member of this godly group in your own locality caught doing this?
NO!
So stop lying against nice people! smiley

Yes
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 3:21pm On Jan 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ if you're banking on what the court says then you supposed to believe in the existence of God/Gods because in all those courts you're quoting they do ask anyone coming to say anything to take an oath in the name of the God they believe which means the courts has confirmed that Gods exist.
So why are you lying against nice people?
If truly you agree with whatever the court does then you should believe in God/Gods! wink

You're denser than density.
Courts ask convicts to swear not just by the Bible but any holy book(which may be bible, quoran, gita etc) which they (convicts) believe in, so such convicts would be under psychological pressure to say the truth. This psychological pressure would try to weigh on such person's mind as s/he testifies. It doesn't mean the courts, judge, jurors etc believe in any god.
This is the kinda lies they brainwash y'all theists with

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 3:28pm On Jan 20, 2023
oteneaaron:


Lol.

I admire your strength.

It is not easy going round and round in circles with you know who.

To even imagine that he as a grandfather, is defending rapists - the horror!

When they go to the court of law and win a case, they gladly say that it is Jehovah who gave them the victory.

When they lose a case in the same court of law, they call the same Lawyers - Liars and conclude they are working for Satan.

Do you see the double standard?

Well, it is good that the internet never forgets and everybody can see his true nature - a man who defends Child Sexual Abusers.
He's actually a sex offender, along with Aemmyjah. He has confessed before and said everyone does it (child mol@station) so why pick on JWs. The horror!

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 3:29pm On Jan 20, 2023
sonmvayina:
I think we have derailed this thread....

The op set out to postulate that the other virgin birth prior to Christianity where the work of Satan. He did not deny the fact that such ideas has existed prior.
Well his argument that Satan was to blame does not hold water. One of the church fathers is on record to have said.

"And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter. "
This was attributed to Justin martyer, an early church father..

So he never said anything about Satan stealing the idea from God....
He actually gladly derailed the thread himself. He said the thread is about JW strength

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:32pm On Jan 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
No matter what they say as long as they're unable to find such in their community they supposed to sense that something is wrong somewhere.
Throughout the world today a religion is known for terrorism and it's not just the News but what is happening here in Nigeria so they can't deny it but News from afar that you can't verify within your community whereas members of this same group are within your community without a single person caught in the act! undecided

And in the oversea countries where we believe they have the best system these people claim JWs were caught in the act yet instead of sending them to prison they're demanding for money!

I remember when many people were accusing Michael Jackson of child molestation the man never mind and after going to court they will ask him to pay because the cases are shady and his managers will advise him to pay so as to continue his career. But the day Michael died all those people came shedding tears and confessing that everything was lies just to extort money from the kindhearted man! embarassed

So let them continue crying up and down as long as they're saying there's no evidence of God's existence simply because they can't see him then their cries over what people say about God's organization is unjustified if they can't see a JW in their neighbourhood caught in such act! smiley


One of the accusers of MJ confessed that his father used him and there was a recording of the man claiming to get money in extorting MJ
The day MJ died, the man shot himself
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by oteneaaron(m): 4:53pm On Jan 20, 2023
jaephoenix:

He's actually a sex offender, along with Aemmyjah. He has confessed before and said everyone does it (child mol@station) so why pick on JWs. The horror!

Lol.

Good thing the internet never forgets.

His receipts are all over Nairaland.

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by Aemmyjah(m): 4:55pm On Jan 20, 2023
oteneaaron:


Lol.

Good thing the internet never forgets.

His receipts are all over Nairaland.

Fools plenty for NL
You just want to make this forum uncomfortable for us with your lies cos you're unable to contribute anything meaningful and Max does not want to give you that 'drop of water' as the torment was too much
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by oteneaaron(m): 5:03pm On Jan 20, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Fools plenty for NL
You just want to make this forum uncomfortable for us with your lies cos you're unable to contribute anything meaningful and Max does not want to give you that 'drop of water' as the torment was too much

Can you not speak without dishing out insults?

Who is a fool?

A man who see evil and calls it good?

A man who boldly defends Child Sexual Abusers?

Keep defending your convicted Jehovahs Witness Child Sexual Abusers.

One day, it will happen to someone very close to you and at that time, you will know what it means to defend Child Sexual Abusers.

Until then, dey play.

Just de play.

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:09pm On Jan 20, 2023
oteneaaron:


Can you not speak without dishing out insults?

Who is a fool?

A man who see evil and calls it good?

A man who boldly defends Child Sexual Abusers?

Keep defending your convicted Jehovahs Witness Child Sexual Abusers.

One day, it will happen to someone very close to you and at that time, you will know what it means to defend Child Sexual Abusers.

Until then, dey play.

Just de play.

If you go to the market and you see someone run suddenly
Another person does same
Then you run and scream, 'run oo'
You'll see people run especially the market women
They will be the ones persuading others to run cos THEY HAVE SEEN ROBBERS ROBBING PEOPLE AND USING GUNS

That's why you can't take their claims seriously especially the older women. You simply have to investigate
The Bible itself says that the naive person believes every word
You're very naive
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by oteneaaron(m): 5:15pm On Jan 20, 2023
Aemmyjah:


If you go to the market and you see someone run suddenly
Another person does same
Then you run and scream, 'run oo'
You'll see people run especially the market women
They will be the ones persuading others to run cos THEY HAVE SEEN ROBBERS ROBBING PEOPLE AND USING GUNS

That's why you can't take their claims seriously especially the older women. You simply have to investigate
The Bible itself says that the naive person believes every word
You're very naive

Continue defending the Child Sexual Abusers in your midst.

One day, it will happen to someone very close to you.

By the way, below is a video where the Attorney General of the State of Pennsylvania announced the arrest of members of your Jehovahs Witness Organization who raped children in the United States.

Mind you, this investigation lasted for 3 solid years.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXZFVwiXrws

Dey play.

Just de play.

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:09pm On Jan 20, 2023
Walahi talahi you sabi pass sabinus! cheesy
So they made it a compulsion for anyone to swear in the name of the God he or she believes but then they don't believe in any.
What a contradiction! undecided

jaephoenix:

You're denser than density.
Courts ask convicts to swear not just by the Bible but any holy book(which may be bible, quoran, gita etc) which they (convicts) believe in, so such convicts would be under psychological pressure to say the truth. This psychological pressure would try to weigh on such person's mind as s/he testifies. It doesn't mean the courts, judge, jurors etc believe in any god.
This is the kinda lies they brainwash y'all theists with
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:11pm On Jan 20, 2023
jaephoenix:

Yes

Good!

So how far about the case?
What happened in court? grin
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:26pm On Jan 20, 2023
Let them go and hug the transformer as long as they can't find such here in Nigeria that's enough to debunk all those LIES.
They refused to believe that Gods exist despite what billions around the world are say about God but they want everyone to believe what some courts said against the nicest group ever whereas they've not caught any JW in their own vicinity doing such.
When God's word says they're wicked now it's becoming obvious.
How can you say you will never believe what people are saying about something because you've never witnessed it yet you are carrying placards on your heads against the nicest set of humans simply because some people say something against them whereas look! You've not witnessed it with your eyes! smiley

Aemmyjah:

One of the accusers of MJ confessed that his father used him and there was a recording of the man claiming to get money in extorting MJ
The day MJ died, the man shot himself

Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:29pm On Jan 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Let them go and hug the transformer as long as they can't find such here in Nigeria that's enough to debunk all those LIES.
They refused to believe that Gods exist despite what billions around the world are say about God but they want everyone to believe what some courts said against the nicest group ever whereas they've not caught any JW in their own vicinity doing such.
When God's word says they're wicked now it's becoming obvious.
How can you say you will never believe what people are saying about something because you've never witnessed it yet you are carrying placards on your heads against the nicest set of humans simply because some people say something against them whereas look! You've not witnessed it with your eyes! smiley


The most intelligent atheist has no intelligence
No wonder why God calls them fools
Indeed they are fools
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:30pm On Jan 20, 2023
One day a god will give you a heavy knock on that empty skull.
If you're ready to wait until the above happens before you believe then allow JWs to wait until what you're saying happens to us! cheesy

oteneaaron:

One day, it will happen to someone very close to you.
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:35pm On Jan 20, 2023
These people are thieves, murderers, pedophiles, fraudsters, homosexuals, lesbians, bestialists as in the WORSTEST among humans but all they're after now is to accuse the nicest people.
If they don't believe in the existence of God due to the fact that they never saw God then they can't convince any right thinking person that JWs whom nobody in our own society has caught are rapists! wink

Aemmyjah:

The most intelligent atheist has no intelligence
No wonder why God calls them fools
Indeed they are fools
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by oteneaaron(m): 7:37pm On Jan 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
One day a god will give you a heavy knock on that empty skull.

If you're ready to wait until the above happens before you believe then allow JWs to wait until what you're saying happens to us! cheesy


Lol.

Just like Janosky and Aemmyjah, you cannot speak without dishing out insults.

Continue defending the Child Sexual Abusers in your midst.

One day it will happen to someone close to you - maybe that poor grandchild of yours.

Until then, dey play.

Just de play.

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:09pm On Jan 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
One day a god will give you a heavy knock on that empty skull.
If you're ready to wait until the above happens before you believe then allow JWs to wait until what you're saying happens to us! cheesy


The biggest truth here is that the man has an empty skull. If you shake am, d sound be like shekere
Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by oteneaaron(m): 8:27pm On Jan 20, 2023
Aemmyjah:


The biggest truth here is that the man has an empty skull. If you shake am, d sound be like shekere

Lol.

Keep the insults coming.

It is your modus operandi.

Continue defending the Child Sexual Abusers in your midst.

One day, it will happen to someone close to you.

Until then, dey play.

Just de play.

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:59pm On Jan 20, 2023
Continue lying and accusing nice people one day God will hit you on that your empty skull! cheesy

oteneaaron:

Lol.
Just like Janosky and Aemmyjah, you cannot speak without dishing out insults.
Continue defending the Child Sexual Abusers in your midst.
One day it will happen to someone close to you - maybe that poor grandchild of yours.
Until then, dey play.
Just de play.

Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 12:20am On Jan 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
No matter what they say as long as they're unable to find such in their community they supposed to sense that something is wrong somewhere.
Throughout the world today a religion is known for terrorism and it's not just the News but what is happening here in Nigeria so they can't deny it but News from afar that you can't verify within your community whereas members of this same group are within your community without a single person caught in the act! undecided

And in the oversea countries where we believe they have the best system these people claim JWs were caught in the act yet instead of sending them to prison they're demanding for money!

I remember when many people were accusing Michael Jackson of child molestation the man never mind and after going to court they will ask him to pay because the cases are shady and his managers will advise him to pay so as to continue his career. But the day Michael died all those people came shedding tears and confessing that everything was lies just to extort money from the kindhearted man! embarassed

So let them continue crying up and down as long as they're saying there's no evidence of God's existence simply because they can't see him then their cries over what people say about God's organization is unjustified if they can't see a JW in their neighbourhood caught in such act! smiley


At the bolded, stop lying, bro. Its you guys that go behind to seek for settlement. Lawyers who have battled the Jehovah’s Witnesses in the US and UK have said the JW organisation has a global problem with both child abuse and the way it responds to victims. The organisation drags cases out until the last possible moment, then settles to avoid a courtroom examination of its practices. If they were innocent, they would have allowed the case to go to court. But because of the excess crime, your heads secretly settle and ask to pay money.

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 12:39am On Jan 21, 2023
@maxindhouse and @ammyjah
Your organization is a cesspit of a potpourri of crimes. I just took my time to sieve through the evidence everywhere. From rape, pedophilia, money laundering etc.

1. Money laundering
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/108089/watchtower-way-laundering-money

Minister of State for Niger Delta Affairs, Festus Keyamo, has described suspected fraud kingpin, Jerry Ikogho, as a brother and friend from a good home. Ikogho is a known JW member.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/108089/watchtower-way-laundering-money

2. Aiding and abetting crimes
The royal commission uncovered a vast cache of files compiled by Jehovah’s Witnesses members over more than 60 years. These files documented allegations and confessions of the abuse of more than 1,800 children by more than 1,000 alleged perpetrators in Australia.
The royal commission found no evidence the Australian branch office had ever alerted authorities about any of the alleged abuse documented in these files.

http://jwemployees.bravehost.com/NewsReports/2054.html

3. Ponzi schemes
$700,000,000.00 were seized all over Europe. The four listed defendants and others were arrested. In August 2008, reportedly, Ulrich Chmiel and his two sons were convicted on PONZI-SCHEME type fraud charges. Reportedly, Ulrich Chmiel and Oliver Braun were each sentenced to 81 months in prison. Alexander Chmiel, age 31, reportedly was sentenced to 60 months in prison, but all or part that term may have been suspended. Christian Chmiel, age 27, reportedly was sentenced to two years in prison, but he too may have received only probation. Reportedly, even after the above convictions, three employees, including a female, who continued to operate AKZENTA AK, and who continued to defraud clients were arrested and prosecuted in 2008-09.

By 2011, 15,000 clients had filed claims against the in-bankruptcy firm -- totaling nearly $150,000,000.00.

One can only wonder how many MILLIONS of dollars the schemers donated to the WatchTower Society in order to establish and maintain their "credibility" with victims and potential victims. Those donated MILLIONS should have been the target of any "claw back" actions every bit as much as the money paid back to early investors to establish and maintain the credibility of the Ponzi scheme. Both payouts served the same Ponzi scheme function.


4. Pedophilia
The four are being prosecuted by the Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General for the following charges:

Jose Serrano, 69, is alleged to have molested six young girls in 2011. He admitted to these crimes and to a life-long struggle with deviant impulses. He has been charged with aggravated indecent assault, indecent assault, and endangering the welfare of children.
Jesse Hill, 52, is alleged to have used his milling business to attract young boys from his Jehovah’s Witness congregation, with promises of alcohol, marijuana, and pornography to his property for parties in the 1990s. Hill would later expose himself to the children, grope them and force them to perform MouthAction. The investigation revealed at least 10 victims of the abuse. Hill has been charged with rape, involuntary deviant sexual intercourse, indecent assault, and corruption of minors.
Robert Ostrander, 56, is alleged to have sexually abused at least two minors. He has been charged with indecent assault, endangering welfare of children, and corruption of minors.
Eric Eleam, 61, was alleged to have sexually abused a child and used sexual molestation as a form of discipline for that child. He has been charged with rape, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, aggravated indecent assault, and endangering the welfare of a child. When agents attempted to take him into custody, police say[b] he retreated into his bathroom and killed himself.[/b]


At this point, I just decided to give it a rest. MadMax and his crew are a bunch of criminals. The last sex offender Eric Eleam even committed suicide which even confirms his culpability.
So MadMax abeg talk another lie, your talk holds no water

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 12:43am On Jan 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Fools plenty for NL
You just want to make this forum uncomfortable for us with your lies cos you're unable to contribute anything meaningful and Max does not want to give you that 'drop of water' as the torment was too much
Lol. What a strong defense of MadMax and his crimes. So we were 'tormenting' him with the truth, right?
Hint: Never try to join the legal organization, you suck at it cheesy

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 12:46am On Jan 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:


If you go to the market and you see someone run suddenly
Another person does same
Then you run and scream, 'run oo'
You'll see people run especially the market women
They will be the ones persuading others to run cos THEY HAVE SEEN ROBBERS ROBBING PEOPLE AND USING GUNS

That's why you can't take their claims seriously especially the older women. You simply have to investigate
The Bible itself says that the naive person believes every word
You're very naive
So you think your elders that pay millions of dollars in settlement (a settlement they asked for, and not the accuser) were innocent, right? grin
Why didn't they tell the accusers to go ahead and continue the court case if they were innocent? grin

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 1:02am On Jan 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi you sabi pass sabinus! cheesy
So they made it a compulsion for anyone to swear in the name of the God he or she believes but then they don't believe in any.
What a contradiction! undecided

Did you read about the part I mentioned Psychological Pressure?

This is the definition

excessive or stressful demands, imagined or real, made on an individual to think, feel, or act in particular ways

Its a way of saying 'whatever rocks your boat, but tell us the truth'

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Re: Tales Of Virgin Birth In Various Pagan Traditions How Come? by jaephoenix(m): 1:03am On Jan 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Good!

So how far about the case?
What happened in court? grin
He was convicted. Your elders couldn't gather enough cash to bribe the victim aka settle out of court. Sorry

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