AntiChristian:
■ No one can live a sinless life daily!
■ But I think you believe Jesus already died for your sins so which sins are you talking about again?

elated177:
Antichristian, why do you worry yourself so much? Do we practise the same religion? Why are fixated on what my religion says or what it doesn't say? What bearing do my beliefs have you?

AntiChristian:


I dislike falsehood when I see one.
What you say here is different from what other denominations would say!
Yes Jesus didn't preach any of the denominations!

elated177:


Where is the falsehood?

AntiChristian:


That you can live your life without sin!

elated177:


Falsehood according to?

How could it be falsehood when my Scriptures explicitly teach that a sin-free life is possible and achievable?

So, again, falsehood according to?

AntiChristian:


Which scripture talk am?

According to you.

Romans 3:23-24

elated177:



My Scriptures.

It is not possible to be according to me.

Quote with understanding, antichristian.

Go back to the beginning of the thread and read with attention.

brocab:
■{1 John 1:8}If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
■{1 Samuel 15:23} For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

5 We heard the true teaching from God. Now we tell it to you: God is light, and in him there is no darkness.
6 So if we say that we share in life with God, but we continue living in darkness, we are liars, who don’t follow the truth.
7 We should live in the light, where God is. If we live in the light, we have fellowship with each other, and the blood sacrifice of Jesus, God’s Son, washes away every sin and makes us clean.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are fooling ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 But if we confess our sins, God will forgive us. We can trust God to do this. He always does what is right. He will make us clean from all the wrong things we have done.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we are saying that God is a liar and that we don’t accept his true teaching. - 1 John 5 - 10

brocab:
{1 John 1:8} If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
{1 Samuel 15:23} For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

paxonel:
There is nothing like sin-free like!

Yes, it is true that one can avoid sin to the bearest minimum according to the 1John 3:9 you quoted, but before quoting 1John 3:9, always have it at the back of your mind that there is 1 John 1:8

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

So there is nothing like sin-free life!
Rather we can only manage our morality and limit our sin to the besrest minimum based on how knowledgeable we are.

The more we are ignorant the more sinful we are. The more knowledgeable we are the less sin we commit and more grace to enjoy this life.

Before you start preaching repentance ask yourself, does the person you are asking to repent have the knowledge or capacity to maintain that level of repentance?

So if there is anything one should pursue first, irrespective of your religion, doctrine or creed is knowledge and understanding.

Atleast go school

Kobojunkie:
1. Always pay close attention to context when reading so you more clearly understand the message of the writer. Lifting a verse from its context in order to assert a meaning different from that intended by the writer amounts to spewing soundbites.
Surely, you can see that John, in the passage, is saying that it is impossible for one who is born-again to live in sin — darkness— and have the Truth, Jesus Christ, living at the same time inside of one. This goes against popular ideas out there that a person is made free from sin as soon as he/she becomes born-again or confesses to Jesus Christ as a savior. John then goes on to explain that the cleansing of one from his/her sins by God that would follow after a person has become a believer can only take place when one does what is right — lives his life in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. For it is when we know the Truth — the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ — that we are then set free from slavery to sin by the Truth - John 8 vs 31 - 36.

2. Last I checked, rebellion is a choice, and so also is stubbornness.

elated177:
Sin-free life is possible and achievable. Pursue it with all your mind, all your soul, all your strength and all your heart. Allow that consciousness to flow in you.

James 3: 1 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.

Seek perfection. Settle for nothing less. We have been called-out, set-apart, from the world to be pure, holy, truthful and righteous. In your thoughts, actions, words and deeds, seek perfection. Pursue it like your existence depended on it. This perfection is better than anything on earth that you can think of. It gladdens the eyes and warms the heart.

Brothers and sisters, seek and pursue perfection.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

paxonel:
There is nothing like sin-free like!

Yes, it is true that one can avoid sin to the bearest minimum according to the 1John 3:9 you quoted, but before quoting 1John 3:9, always have it at the back of your mind that there is 1 John 1:8

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

So there is nothing like sin-free life!
Rather we can only manage our morality and limit our sin to the besrest minimum based on how knowledgeable we are.

The more we are ignorant the more sinful we are. The more knowledgeable we are the less sin we commit and more grace to enjoy this life.

Before you start preaching repentance ask yourself, does the person you are asking to repent have the knowledge or capacity to maintain that level of repentance?

So if there is anything one should pursue first, irrespective of your religion, doctrine or creed is knowledge and understanding.

Atleast go school

brocab:
Obviously these people can live a prefect life style without sinning-these are super humans, I am in confession every morning, after I sleep 'I wake up repenting, we war against our mind, the law is Spiritual, we have got to ask them about whom do we confess our sins to, if not God? {1 John 1:99} If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
This is a consent reminder to humble ourselves before our Father, repeatedly repenting, asking Him to forgive us our sins-our own fathers disciplines us and we respect them for that, how much more can God do for us.

paxonel:
exactly

elated177:


The satanic agents, wolves in sheep's clothing, are exposing themselves.

brocab:
So you believe by mediating you can push all your sins away from your mind-you can live that prefect lifestyle, through mediation-So no matter what happens you can push it all away, you live a prefect life style, I never read the disciples were living a prefect life style-I reads they were struggling through it-According to Paul, {Romans 7:14-23} But you aren't Paul nor the disciples.

brocab:
So you have finely seen your face in the mirror.

brocab:
■By looking at your page-I see another lingo that is used among the Once Born Again always Born Again believers, they believe after they had said: the salvation prayer, and repented once, no matter what happens they are always saved. "no repentance no forgiveness living a immoral life style and still be the Lord..
■ You must live a prefect life-that not even the disciples could live it.[/color] The condemnation of such people was recorded long ago, for they have denied our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
So this is all I can say: about that-don't argue with me, argue this one with God..

brocab:
■{Ecclesiastes 7:20} Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins. So obviously someone is lying, I know it's not the Word of God.
■Romans 3:10-12,,Psalm 14:1-3, Psalm 53:1-3} as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.”
■So your mediation keeps you from sinning? so this means you are no longer sinners, your life is prefect-the Lord had only granted your Church with this gift of knowledge.
■ So you never rebel against anybody, neither does your children rebel against their Brothers Sisters nor parents, you never get angry-you never argue, you never raise your voice, you never say bad words against anybody, you are never rude, you are always polite when one on line ask you a question, you never put yourself above anybody else, you call people names, you never talk behind someone's back, you never gossip, you never swear under your breath, everything is guns and roses, only because sin is not in your members.. [/color]

brocab:
■ Obviously these people can live a prefect life style without sinning-these are super humans, I am in confession every morning, after I sleep 'I wake up repenting, we war against our mind, the law is Spiritual, we have got to ask them about whom do we confess our sins to, if not God?
■ {1 John 1:9} If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
■ This is a consent reminder to humble ourselves before our Father, repeatedly repenting, asking Him to forgive us our sins-our own fathers disciplines us and we respect them for that, how much more can God do for us.

MaxInDHouse:
It's possible but not while we are still living in our imperfect human flesh {Romans 7: 15-23} before the close of 1,000 years that we are to continue doing all we can to be like Jesus Christ we will definitely become perfect in Jesus name. Amen! Romans 7:24-25

Until then let us continue associating with true Christians because that's where we can be encouraged to love and fine WORKS {Hebrews 10:24-25} the personality we must target to put on is Christ! Ephesians 4:22-24

That's why Jesus could say:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16

None of us can meet up God's requirement for holiness {Isaiah 64:6} that's why we need a role model (CHRIST) by looking forward to become like him {Hebrews 12:2} and exerting ourselves vigorously {Luke 13:24} we will be forgiven and we will become clean in the face of our merciful God and Father! Psalms 103:12-14

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

elated177:

I have few questions for you.

1. Are you righteous?
2. Do you have the Set-apart Spirit of YHVH Almighty?
3. What does Isaiah 64:6 mean to you?
4. Do you think perfection, as long as the Righteous Walk is concerned, is achievable?