Beaf:

Yes, its DPP, but ACN is extremely desperate to add an oil producing state as another cash cow in addition to Lagos.
It is their primitive ethnically bigoted style to attempt to lure the Itsekiri into their trap and reap the state to pieces ethnically, then stroll in to pick up whatever pieces they can gather.

Its better to convince people in a civilised way, than to cause strife in a state where the people have learnt to get along.

alj_harem:

i think u are sick

how is ACN involved in this,. u claim to be living in peace but recently ijaws still killed some itsekiri

is that peace

Beaf:

alj_harem:

beaf really u are really sick

How can u call ACN bigoted

is ACN an ethnic group or a political party

this ACN won seats in akwa ibom, benue, anambra, edo state

so what are you talking about

do you want to know what ACN is doing in the north ?

Yes you are sick and a BIG ETHNIC BIGOT is this what PDP has done to you when they talk of zoning

u must be a mad man

kpogede77:

@ PhysicsQD
Ek clark nominated Orubebe to become minister, the whole of Urhobo under UPU nominated three candidate for GEJ to appoint but Ek Clark insisted that he must be the one to nominate a minister for Urhobo or Urhobo will have no minister. Urhobos rejected his stooge called Gbagi who is more loyal to Ek clark than the entire Urhobo nation. Ek clark boasted that Urhobo will not have minister and GEJ complied with it.

Urhobos are by far more than Ijaw in terms of population. Either Urhobo or Edo should be the 4th largest ethnic group in Nigeria. Urhobo is an edoid group.
Pure Ijaw of Bayelsa+Ijoid groups in river state are still < Urhobo+Urhoboid group(Isoko)
Bayelsa has eight unpopulated local government while Urhobo and Isoko has 10 heavily populated LG.
The population of Uwie alone is more than 3 Bayelsa LG put together. We still have nine LG left while Bayelsa has 5 left out of its 8LG. The total population of Ijaw in delta state is less than the population of Ugheli North LG. Sapele and Udu LG will compensate for the remaining 5 LG in Bayelsa. Urhobos still have six more heavily populated LG that is more than all the Ijawid groups put together or are they saying Ijaws in rivers and other Ijawid groups are more than the Ijaws in Bayelsa? There are still Urhobo communities in Bayelsa.
In the last election, total registered voters in Bayelsa <500,000 whille Urhobo recorded 867000 out of which over 800,000 voted for GEJ while the total vote GEJ got from Bayelsa is 433,000.
Now tell me why Ijaw should get oil minister and Urhobo =0
Tell me why Ijaw got Niger delta minister and Urhobo=0
Tell me why Ijaw got special adviser on amnesty and Urhobo=0
Tell me why Ijaw got ministry of foreign affairs and Urhobo=0
Let us assume Itsekiri was not given minister because Itsekiri has the governorship but special adviser nko.
In the same vein Ijaw should not have minister because the president is Ijaw , so Urhobo should get ministerial appointment first.
You can see that there is problem

kpogede77:

@ PhysicsQD
Ek clark nominated Orubebe to become minister, the whole of Urhobo under UPU nominated three candidate for GEJ to appoint but

Ek Clark insisted that he must be the one to nominate a minister for Urhobo or Urhobo will have no minister. Urhobos rejected his stooge called Gbagi who is more loyal to Ek clark than the entire Urhobo nation. Ek clark boasted that Urhobo will not have minister and GEJ complied with it.

Urhobos are by far more than Ijaw in terms of population. Either Urhobo or Edo should be the 4th largest ethnic group in Nigeria. Urhobo is an edoid group.

Pure Ijaw of Bayelsa+Ijoid groups in river state are still < Urhobo+Urhoboid group(Isoko)
Bayelsa has eight unpopulated local government while Urhobo and Isoko has 10 heavily populated LG.

The population of Uwie alone is more than 3 Bayelsa LG put together.

We still have nine LG left while Bayelsa has 5 left out of its 8LG. The total population of Ijaw in delta state is less than the population of Ugheli North LG. Sapele and Udu LG will compensate for the remaining 5 LG in Bayelsa.

Urhobos still have six more heavily populated LG that is more than all the Ijawid groups put together or are they saying Ijaws in rivers and other Ijawid groups are more than the Ijaws in Bayelsa?

There are still Urhobo communities in Bayelsa.

In the last election, total registered voters in Bayelsa <500,000 whille Urhobo recorded 867000 out of which over 800,000 voted

for GEJ while the total vote GEJ got from Bayelsa is 433,000.
Now tell me why Ijaw should get oil minister and Urhobo =0

Tell me why Ijaw got Niger delta minister and Urhobo=0
Tell me why Ijaw got special adviser on amnesty and Urhobo=0
Tell me why Ijaw got ministry of foreign affairs and Urhobo=0

Let us assume Itsekiri was not given minister because Itsekiri has the governorship but special adviser nko.
In the same vein Ijaw should not have minister because the president is Ijaw , so Urhobo should get ministerial appointment first.

You can see that there is problem

Beaf:

Yes, its DPP, but ACN is extremely desperate to add an oil producing state as another cash cow in addition to Lagos.
It is their primitive ethnically bigoted style to attempt to lure the Itsekiri into their trap and reap the state to pieces ethnically, then stroll in to pick up whatever pieces they can gather.

Its better to convince people in a civilised way, than to cause strife in a state where the people have learnt to get along.

Beaf:


Alh haram or boko harem, go ride camels in your useless state.

alj_harem:

beaf really u are really sick

How can u call ACN bigoted

is ACN an ethnic group or a political party

this ACN won seats in akwa ibom, benue, anambra, edo state

so what are you talking about

do you want to know what ACN is doing in the north ?

Yes you are sick and a BIG ETHNIC BIGOT is this what PDP has done to you when they talk of zoning

u must be a mad man

alj_harem:

beaf come back and answer the question

really , all your falsehood you have be spewing out on Nl should stop

Beaf:

I have a better question for you:
Why did your state create boko haram?

Thank God we don't have boko haram in Delta state.

alj_harem:

this is not about boko haram but about delta

when there is a thread of boko haram, i would answer

now answer my question

kpogede77:

Aja wa oooooo, ana haiokpota biomu uromume,  Haba Beaf, I don't want to argue Warri matter with you again, I just realize I was arguing with someone who rely on google to type response on Warri issue. You said Warri south is far from main Warri. Warri south is the main warri, any thing outside warri south is either Uwie, udu or Okpe. It is warri southwest that is located purely in the river apart from Ogbijo that one can access by land. Don't allow effurun boys catch you with a sign post bearing Warri after Enerhen Junction.
YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO WARRI FOR LONG OR YOU DID NOT GROW UP IN WARRI

Beaf:

^
My friend, save yourself and leave matters that are beyond you.

ekt_bear:

Is it me, or from page 3 does it look like Beaf doesn't understand a word of what kpogede wrote?

Beaf, are you even Isoko like you claim? Are you from this Warri that you claim? I don't even mean "from" in an indigene sense, but did you live there at all?

Which state in Nigeria are you really from?

1. You posted a picture from Japan as one of your state capital. What true indigene of Delta State would do that?
2. You don't seem to understand the language Kpogede was writing.
3. You don't seem to understand the geography of your purported town, Warri (according to Kpogede. Rather than responding, you dodged, Kobojunkie style.)
4. Household where Hausa and Yoruba were spoken, eh?

This guy is clearly not what he presents himself to be. Another fraudster, it looks like.

[size=33pt]Some here have called me a google Nigerian[/size]. It appears that Beaf is a google Deltan, hehehe

ekt_bear:

Is it me, or from page 3 does it look like Beaf doesn't understand a word of what kpogede wrote?

Beaf, are you even Isoko like you claim? Are you from this Warri that you claim? I don't even mean "from" in an indigene sense, but did you live there at all?

Which state in Nigeria are you really from?

[size=14pt]1. You posted a picture from Japan as one of your state capital. What true indigene of Delta State would do that?
2. You don't seem to understand the language Kpogede was writing.
3. You don't seem to understand the geography of your purported town, Warri (according to Kpogede. Rather than responding, you dodged, Kobojunkie style.)
4. Household where Hausa and Yoruba were spoken, eh?[/size]

This guy is clearly not what he presents himself to be. Another fraudster, it looks like.

Some here have called me a google Nigerian. It appears that Beaf is a google Deltan, hehehe

alj_harem:

LOOL

Beaf:

Alhaji boko haram, you are yet to answer my question. Why does your state produce many almajiri's and terrorists?

kpogede77:

@ PhysicsQD
Ek clark nominated Orubebe to become minister, the whole of Urhobo under UPU nominated three candidate for GEJ to appoint but Ek Clark insisted that he must be the one to nominate a minister for Urhobo or Urhobo will have no minister. Urhobos rejected his stooge called Gbagi who is more loyal to Ek clark than the entire Urhobo nation. Ek clark boasted that Urhobo will not have minister and GEJ complied with it.

Urhobos are by far more than Ijaw in terms of population. Either Urhobo or Edo should be the 4th largest ethnic group in Nigeria. Urhobo is an edoid group.
Pure Ijaw of Bayelsa+Ijoid groups in river state are still < Urhobo+Urhoboid group(Isoko)
Bayelsa has eight unpopulated local government while Urhobo and Isoko has 10 heavily populated LG.
The population of Uwie alone is more than 3 Bayelsa LG put together. We still have nine LG left while Bayelsa has 5 left out of its 8LG. The total population of Ijaw in delta state is less than the population of Ugheli North LG. Sapele and Udu LG will compensate for the remaining 5 LG in Bayelsa. Urhobos still have six more heavily populated LG that is more than all the Ijawid groups put together or are they saying Ijaws in rivers and other Ijawid groups are more than the Ijaws in Bayelsa? There are still Urhobo communities in Bayelsa.
In the last election, total registered voters in Bayelsa <500,000 whille Urhobo recorded 867000 out of which over 800,000 voted for GEJ while the total vote GEJ got from Bayelsa is 433,000.
Now tell me why Ijaw should get oil minister and Urhobo =0
Tell me why Ijaw got Niger delta minister and Urhobo=0
Tell me why Ijaw got special adviser on amnesty and Urhobo=0
Tell me why Ijaw got ministry of foreign affairs and Urhobo=0
Let us assume Itsekiri was not given minister because Itsekiri has the governorship but special adviser nko.
In the same vein Ijaw should not have minister because the president is Ijaw , so Urhobo should get ministerial appointment first.
You can see that there is problem

PhysicsQED:

Interesting. Didn't know Edwin Clark was that dominant in the ND. Looks like he got his way. I'm not sure that's proof of an Ijaw plot to marginalize Urhobos though. Sounds more like personal politics.

Also, I disagree with the claim that there are more Urhobo + Isoko than Ijoid groups. I think you're considering the non "pure" Ijaws as something else other than Ijaw. I've heard someone else put forward that theory before, and I don't believe it because of other things I've read. Anyway, the president is not a "pure" Ijaw, but you are counting him as Ijaw to make an argument for ministerial appointments for Urhobo, but not counting non "pure" Ijaws for population counts, so I don't think you're being consistent there.

And how many Urhobos are in Bayelsa and where? How long have they been there?

Beaf:

@Physics

As to how long the Urhobo's and Isoko's have been in Bayelsa; its hundreds of years. Every single ND group from Rivers to Delta, met the Ijaw people and were given land to settle on. The Ijaws are one of Nigeria's few autochthonous ethnic groups (if not the only one), nobody knows how long they have been in the ND (I'm sure we have discussed this before).

alj_harem:

beaf answer my question

PhysicsQED:

Beaf, when you make a claim that a group was "given land to settle on" shouldn't there be confirmation of that tradition from both sides (the Ijaws and that group)? How much supporting cultural or historical evidence is there for that tradition?