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Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by atheistandproud(m): 12:40am On Apr 09, 2023 |
pansophist: I was referring to working class ladies that have decent paying jobs na. These ladies are usually in the 27 to 40 category. Not the young ones. As for the second part, men are a lot more realistic when it comes to life. Too many ladies live in la-la land. Make dem dey find Disney princess wedding na. 2 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Karleb(m): 3:39am On Apr 09, 2023 |
atheistandproud: This is the problem I have with so called intellectuals. You feel you are better than most people. It's like a doctor complaining most people don't understand medicine or surgery like they do. This problem is common anywhere in the world. Get familiar with the American and European cyberspace and its still the same thing. Only few read to understand, many just read to counter or present a totally different point. Even so called intellectuals commit a lot of fallacies too. 1 Like |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by emmaodet: 6:58am On Apr 09, 2023 |
pansophist: My brother, even me sef go submit give the woman. You mean my wife will take me round the world for submitting to her? and still respect me join? give me money/upkeep? while trying her best to bang the shit out of me? What else can a man pray for? bikonu If na submision be her problem, i get am plenty biko 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by emmaodet: 7:18am On Apr 09, 2023 |
LordAdam16: Nice points at the bolded 3 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by pansophist(m): 10:14am On Apr 09, 2023 |
emmaodet: Na small thing remain, I wan remind the girl say, this is Nigeria, but I just resisted the urge to shalaye. We broke for this country. Less than 7% of men have one million naira in their account, and I'm being generous with that number. Even 1M naira sef na like 1500 usd, can't buy a return ticket to Canada. All these things about high status male are easy to fantasize, but the realities on ground must not be ignored. Such men exist mostly on social media, and the one in real life have so many options of women to pick from, that you're probably not his first choice. But I can always trust women to believe they are special, and it's other girls that will marry the Uber driver, and not her. She believes in her own exceptionalism, until reality sets in. 11 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by pansophist(m): 10:21am On Apr 09, 2023 |
atheistandproud: Her standards and tactics increases as she grow older. So it's reasonable for a man to increase his expectations from her we well. Our money is our money. But honestly, after looking at from different angles, measuring it with tape, sureying and scrutinizing the matter under microscopic conditions, I've come to the conclusion that the best time for a woman to get married is in her early 20's, and the man in his early 30's. Of course any age have its downsides, but the struggles a young girl will face getting married is better than the one she will face if she gets married older. 6 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by pansophist(m): 10:30am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Konjiboii: They do say hi to the men they like. But only few men will ever experience it. Even the so called attractive male are attractive to a lot of women, but not to most women. But an attractive woman is attractive to probably most man. Attraction for men is more objective, but more subjective to women. So if they ain't saying HI to a man, in my view, it's not ego. They don't want him. Simple. Which makes his life easier, for him to go where he will be accepted. 6 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by atheistandproud(m): 10:34am On Apr 09, 2023 |
pansophist: Nailed it at the last paragraph. 1 Like |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by atheistandproud(m): 10:42am On Apr 09, 2023 |
pansophist: I agree with you. Biological speaking, as a graduate of human Physiology, I'll tell you that a woman's best child bearing years are between 18 to 32. Anything further and we fall into the problems of geriatric pregnancies with aging eggs, deformed babies, different syndromes, all sorts of complications etc. If you sneeze on a teenager, she could get pregnant (a woman said this on a bus and I almost died laughing). She went on to say belle when small rats dey carry like kraaafish na some people dey jump from prayer house to prayer house. If you check the ages, the real ages of these women, they're well into their 30s. Spending money on IVF and looking for a miracle. When it comes to success, women tend to shoot themselves in the foot. The reason why many men work so hard is to be able to afford a family. The reason why many women work so hard is probably the opposite. But nature is nature. That's why you see these aging women chasing babies in the extra time of 120 minutes of extra time. Wasting all the money they were working for. 4 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by randymirrors(f): 10:53am On Apr 09, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6: I'm a woman and can tell you 100% that she's right. |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by HellVictorinho6(m): 10:57am On Apr 09, 2023 |
randymirrors:so, u cannot be nice to me is it because am hell |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by randymirrors(f): 11:12am On Apr 09, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6: But that's not the issue here. Was only confirming what she said about women. |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by HellVictorinho6(m): 11:14am On Apr 09, 2023 |
randymirrors:that? |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by HellVictorinho6(m): 11:17am On Apr 09, 2023 |
randymirrors:ok. the issue don tire me sef. u fit help me with 5k? aint celebrating a thing. |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Nobody: 11:19am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Konjiboii: Lol the Table is Turning.. 1 Like |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Nobody: 11:30am On Apr 09, 2023 |
pansophist:Iru eleyi laa ma ri , a o ni ri bayi bayi ooo πππ INCREDIBLE! ππππ 1 Like |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Nobody: 11:35am On Apr 09, 2023 |
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Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Johnholt909: 11:35am On Apr 09, 2023 |
The truth of the matter is; marry a woman who would give you a rest of mind. Avoid drama queens. |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by kkins25(m): 11:53am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Evolutionlove:Are men any different? The greatest threat to another man is his fellow man. 2 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by atheistandproud(m): 12:00pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
kkins25: This is actually very true. It's something I'm writing about atm |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by atheistandproud(m): 12:02pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Johnholt909: All women are drama queens. Even the mature ones. It's just that there are different levels to the madness but trust me it's follow come. Inherently latent waiting to explode. 2 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by tensazangetsu20(m): 12:32pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
pansophist: Nna men 2 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Nobody: 12:51pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
ItisWell22:When I read posts like this and the previous ones on frontpage, a question always plague me . It is "Them use marriage swear for we Africans"? The truth is it is as if the existence of the average African centers on "copulation" and "reproduction" Hey that's me, removing the sugar coated word you use to beautify the quoted words which is MARRIAGE. Ask an average Nigerian the essence of marriage then you will realize it doesn't go beyond easy and justified access to sex and reproduction. So it baffles me, when people type lengthy posts discussing "prick and toto" matter everytime. This is you summing up the whole effort of women who tried to break unfavorable norm to being lonely and masculine, I wonder what really made them "Masculine " because they earn"? Do you mean an educated lady shouldn't earn? Her years in school should end in kitchen or the other room? She shouldn't be paid for her services? Should a lady reject a high paying job because she doesn't want to become "masculine"? If women are becoming masculine because they make money, will we be right to equate the MASCULINITY of Nigeria man to MONEY? How do we describe men who are not Otedola and his likes? . Lol... This thread is about a man (Op) experiencing some challenges in keeping a traditional romantic relationship with modern women but decided to spin narrative, generalize and make it seem like women are the problem. He won't want to go the"how do you keep a relationship with an independent woman" way. That will put him off as incompetent. Lol. If women are becoming masculine because they earn then men should go farther by offering more than money in their relationship. It's very simple. 3 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Gerrard59(m): 1:19pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Persephone1: While I understand the angle you criticise OP's post from, the reality is: some of the women's liberation policies are reasons many developed countries have low birth rates. It is a catch-22 situation. The more educated a woman is, the fewer children she bears. For these developed countries, they are caught between reversing the birth rates (many have tried unsuccessfully) and accepting immigrants in large numbers (mainly black Africans and Arabs). I do agree that men have to offer more than just money in society, ditto women (more than sex and procreation). For instance, should Nigeria be as rich as Malaysia, wahlai! Many Nigerian women will not marry Nigerian men, I am sure of that. In the developed world, marriage rates ditto birth rates are down and fast declining, so while women's liberation was and is good, there are societal consequences to contend with. So, it is a real issue. 6 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Nobody: 1:42pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
kkins25: Oh Yeah. Thanks for reminding me. |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by kkins25(m): 2:06pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
This is the first time, I'll sha see intelligible discourse on this matter.. On that note, I'd want to say, humans have a lot to learn from penguins when it comes to division of labor between man and wife 2 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Nobody: 2:13pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Gerrard59:With our constant visit to the labour room, yearly naming ceremonies, and kids running around homes in numbers of football team per house. What have we achieved as a nation or continent at large Gerrard? Oh well if overpopulation, degenerated health, education, political and economic system, high mortality rate counts at least we have achieved a lot in that aspect. Our professionals (these ones are lucky to become professionals after years of hardship, theoretical trainings, strikes, sex for grades, cults victimization, frustrating lectures etc) keep leaving in masses every day to become second class citizens and bumbum washers in "developed" who are wise enough to control their population in accordance with available resources. Really? What have we gained with our numbers? Developed countries are wise, do not mistake their open borders for lack of human resources. We both know the following. 1) Most opened labour for immigrants are strenuous and they don't want to do them. 2) Unlike their citizens, immigrants can be sent parking whenever they seem fit. 3) if they want to increase their population by child bearing it's a matter of making non contradictory rules and follow up. But do they want this no. Why? It will take them more years and resources to build the society they want with their own citizen than having immigrants do the job. Also if this counts as achievement, we have high rate of frauds and international recognition for it . Is it not best to cut our coats according to our clothes? You are right about one thing though, should Nigeria be rich as Malaysia, Nigerian women won't date Nigerian Men. Which brings the question what really is the drive of Nigerians Relationships? 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by kkins25(m): 2:35pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Persephone1:Such nations also care about marriage,and are equally as interested in it as we are. Atleast, we are even interested in marriage, nd not onlyfans. The only reason develop countries have low birth rates is not because, they were more sensible controlling their population. Infact, their population blew up so bad, they came to steal our resources, bot just ours but from other continents as well.. So, No, they are not smarter. Also, there is a more complex interplay of economic factors that makes sub Sahara africans disadvantaged.. Infact, the only reason, the west has thrived, iduto geopolitics. Bring all d white men down to africa, deyd become gorilla's in a few centuries π 1 Like |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Nobody: 3:00pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
kkins25:They may or they may not ( depending on specific country) but they all certainly do not make it the center of existence like Nigerians do. They do not solely raise a female for her husband's house or solely raise a male child to provide for wife. These are secondary. That's the point. If they worry and discuss women bodies like Nigerian men do they won't be as developed as they are. That's the point here. LoL @they came to steal resources? LoL please don't make me go that lane. How did they "steal" our resources. Didn't we sell our resources, pride, artifacts, lands etc for mirrors? Those who didn't exchange for mirrors did for white validation, political ambitious and greediness. Whites didn't steal from us, they played smart on us. You think slave trade would have been possible without some blacks allowing it? Please don't push that narrative, it's hard to remain gender neutral digging into the failures of black men. On birth control, aside issuing laws on numbers of children citizens are permitted to have several control measures like contraceptive, vasectomy, abortions, hysterectomy and other family planning methods were put in place. That sub sahara Africans being at disadvantage is an excuse. Africans were rich with resources and favourable climate, our inability to make use of what we have, develop yourself, create inventions and develop our nation made us give out our resources for piece of morsels. Our inability to endure delayed gratification made us who we are today. We didn't see the usefulness of those resources you claim white stole, so we gave them out while they took more than what was given. That's the truth. We allow them run us dry. Let's be factual. On your last paragraph , that's not entirely true. They grew to what they are today, if you bring whites to Africa they will survive and grow again. Some of these whites countries were originally occupied by blacks. Why were blacks eradicated? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by LordAdam16: 3:39pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Gerrard59: I did not want to bring this up because it's an issue the governments are hellbent on solving, while a good section of the elites seem to prefer a low replacement rate to tackle overpopulation. Exclude both points, and the self-centeredness of that gender is unbelievable. You were complaining about being oppressed and marginalized. You want your own agency. Okay, we've opened the doors to you. By increasing the labor pool, male wages have stagnated. You can now earn big bucks. And what thanks does society get? You don't want kids anymore (so which person's kid should take care of you in your old age?). You want to be exempted from the draft. You don't want to work in physically-intensive jobs. You do not want to marry and be the bread winner of your home with the high salary you get. So for the love of all things sacred, what is your purpose? Why do you get to enjoy all the perks of a modern civilization built on the backs of so much blood and tears, if a lot of your actions destabilizes and truncates humanity's progress. If a politician starts campaigning to exclude women from the workforce so men can take their place and assume the responsibilities they do not want to shoulder, you'll see them wear pink hats and hyperventilate. He would not drop the mic before he is canceled. To be honest with you, I'm done coddling that gender. Even if we solve the ectogenesis problem and invent superintelligent AI that makes the low replacement rate a non-issue; I can assure you that they have an excuse ready for why they can't have an artificial womb birth them babies or robots mind the kids. -Lord 2 Likes |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by Gerrard59(m): 4:30pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
LordAdam16: Depends on the elites. Elites in the west are OK with immigration. I see innovative and radical solutions coming from East Asian governments. Those ones are not too open to immigration, and if they are like Japan or Singapore, they are very selective. The language (Chinese, Korean and Japanese) alone scares those who can fill the void. And what thanks does society get? You don't want kids anymore (so which person's kid should take care of you in your old age?). You want to be exempted from the draft. You don't want to work in physically-intensive jobs. You do not want to marry and be the bread winner of your home with the high salary you get. To show you how confused these feminist miscreants are, they were against Sweden abi Denmark making national service mandatory for women. I found it absurd. In Singapore, they are against the same thing. The males are slowly agitating that women should be enlisted to serve the country compulsorily, but they refuse. Na wetin make South Korean men vote for the new president because they said women get so much preferential treatment which they don't, as national service is mandatory. South Korea has the lowest fertility rate globally. It is terribly low I even feel for them. Her situation is worse as almost two decades so far, the government has spent so much money (in dollars sef, then imagine the figure in Won) to entice women to birth children. Dem no gree born. Now, there was a rumour that the government will scrap national service for men who could have at least three children. South Korean women are against it o, not even the men wey dey serve national service. So for the love of all things sacred, what is your purpose? Why do you get to enjoy all the perks of a modern civilization built on the backs of so much blood and tears, if a lot of your actions destabilizes and truncates humanity's progress. If a politician starts campaigning to exclude women from the workforce so men can take their place and assume the responsibilities they do not want to shoulder, you'll see them wear pink hats and hyperventilate. He would not drop the mic before he is canceled. In the next decade, those kinds of politicians will spring up unless a new pension system is designed to account for a large number of elderly people and a low number of young people. Without a redesigned pension system, radical efforts would have to be made. I see this coming from countries not really interested in immigration. Even immigration is limited, as the sources see their birth rates plummet. For instance, Italian politicians will come to the realisation that either they force Italian women to born children or accept Nigerians in large numbers to save the current pension system. To be honest with you, I'm done coddling that gender. Even if we solve the ectogenesis problem and invent superintelligent AI that makes the low replacement rate a non-issue; I can assure you that they have an excuse ready for why they can't have an artificial womb birth them babies or robots mind the kids. if that one happens, then men have won it the same way men are the ones benefitting from women sexual liberation. Just that it sounds somehow say na machine go born pikin. 1 Like |
Re: Women Have Become The Men That They Want To Marry by LordAdam16: 4:35pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Persephone1: If our numbers start falling, you can kiss goodbye to whatever standards of development we're yearning for as a country. China regrets their one-child policy. Developed countries are wise, do not mistake their open borders for lack of human resources. We both know the following. The developed are prosecuting policy warfare against the third world. They are taking our best brains, refusing to share high-income IPs with the rest world, and are pursuing a neo-Spartan foreign policy. Thus, the path to becoming developed gets steeper and for more than 80% of the planet is impossible. The best we can aspire for is the "Middle Income Trap". The Europeans and Americans are not going to allow us develop the IP to produce commercial jet liners or high-tech chips. They'd extract all the brains that can do that, and if that fails, they'd sanction us to oblivion. Also if this counts as achievement, we have high rate of frauds and international recognition for it . Is it not best to cut our coats according to our clothes? This is my problem with your gender. You skirts have no interest in trying to understand how your "well-meaning" actions and postulations have a less than ideal impact on the society that sustains you. The men committing fraud and gaining notoriety are not doing so to spend the money on themselves solely. Na still to settle billing from your ilk and stop someone else from shifting your pant with Benz front-seat and Domino's Pizza date. In parts of ancient North India, when the men screw up on a grand scale and a meeting is convened, the women in unison taunt the men with the expression "churiyaan pahan lo" (translated as "you should wear bangles" and throw their bangles at them. You cannot dissociate yourselves from the failures in Nigeria. Then whenever it is fixed, wear your Louboutin stilettos and issue demands. PS: The issue of overpopulation is a tough nut to crack, but I have a hard time accepting that dinosaurs dominated for 270 million years, but 100 years of human prosperity is going to be the end of sentience in the known universe. The asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter has enough resources to sustain five times the current global population and any sort of future that does not include mankind becoming a multi-planetary species is a dystopian nightmare. Whatever fantastic standard of living you relish today, humanity is capable of much more. And we're not going to make those giant strides with a population of 500m to 1b people or whatever number the Malthusians pull from their a$$es. Not with the mathematical fact that is Gaussian Distribution (Bell Curve of Human Intelligence). You need a sh*t ton of people so we can get an Einstein or Hawking every other generation. We might as well give up and sign a forward-dated suicide pact if the so-called "educated" women refuse to have babies. They are supposed to be giving birth to the next generation of inventors, scientists, doctors, programmers, thinkers, engineers, and polymaths. Not handing themselves Darwin awards and making society worse for it. -Lord 4 Likes 2 Shares |
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