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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by Youngpaperboy: 9:57am On Apr 12, 2023
Mumusaphire:
But yakub said results will be sent to main server from polling units.
u de mind them.. As Him receive Tinubu alert, him change mouth. Now he is trying to defend Billions INEC spent on this scam called election

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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by tunjilana: 9:57am On Apr 12, 2023
bentenny:

Last year LP took INEC to court after the amended electoral law to compel the institution to only use electronic transmission of results...however,the judge rightly stated that INEC will be the one to determine which mode of transmission to use!
This INEC did later by drafting rules and guidelines as an extension of the electoral laws and stated explicitly that E-TRANSMISSION is MANDATORY and as the guidelines states,the results must be uploaded from the POLLING UNIT first before leaving the PU!
This is where the real-time narrative becomes relevant!
If you have time,go and study the guidelines and regulations of INEC which is as mandatory as the electoral laws itself!

Lawyers will tell you that you cant build something on Nothing....INEC Guideline derives from the electoral laws. No part of the Law says that INEC must release a "BINDING" guideline prior election, those are just operational efficiency actions, put in place by the comission and it isnt superior to the ACT. The judges will simply look at the ACT and compare what INEC did against it. If INEC transmission is still in line with the provisions of the ACT, then no story
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by Doyin2(m): 9:58am On Apr 12, 2023
HNICEARTH:
Electronic transmission of result in real-time is different from collation. Mumu ex-INEC staff. I see the corn in you

Thank you.

This sums up the whole mischief being propagated.

The electoral act 64.4 makes transmission of results [b]from the polling unit, [/b]a mandatory precondition for any subsequent manual collation.

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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by hammerT: 9:58am On Apr 12, 2023
ncoolsome:



And that of senatorial and rep elections weren't attacked by hackers abi...just dey play


MAHMOOD, SHOULD NOT LEAVE THIS COUNTRY.


WE NEED A SCAPE GOAT.

Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by jaxxy(m): 9:58am On Apr 12, 2023
hammerT:



AFTER VOTING, IN THE PRESENCE OF VOTERS, IT IS COUNTED AND TRANSMITTED.


COLLATION MAYBE OPTIONAL BUT TRANSMISSION IS NOT MANDATORY.

it is mandatory actually.
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by cktheluckyman: 9:59am On Apr 12, 2023
tunjilana:


Lawyers will tell you that you cant build something on Nothing....INEC Guideline derives from the electoral laws. No part of the Law says that INEC must release a "BINDING" guideline prior election, those are just operational efficiency actions, put in place by the comission and it isnt superior to the ACT. The judges will simply look at the ACT and compare what INEC did against it. If INEC transmission is still in line with the provisions of the ACT, then no story
No wonder you are not a lawyer.Shebi INEC will automatically change their guidelines without informing the stakeholders? That is even the easiest way to get the elections annulled

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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by hammerT: 9:59am On Apr 12, 2023
jaxxy:


it is mandatory actually.

NO LEAVE HIM TO BE DEBATING COLLATION, I.E. SHIFTING GOAL POST.


WHERE WE WILL NAIL HIM IS THE TRAMISSION.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVv6Jr2zRUs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62_6cJHniBY
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by ivolt: 10:00am On Apr 12, 2023
Chicagoesontop:
But why did INEC promise to use it in the first place .
Inec never promised electronic COLLATION, it promised electronic TRANSMISSION.
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by Larryndelaw: 10:02am On Apr 12, 2023
Which means Keyamo was right when he said there is no where in Law where it says result should be done electronically
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by hammerT: 10:03am On Apr 12, 2023
ivolt:

Inec never promised electronic COLLATION, it promised electronic TRANSMISSION.


PRESIDENTIAL RESULT WERE NOT TRANSMITTED.


THAT IS THE CRUX OF THE MATTER AND THEN RIGGING OF MANUALLY COLLATED RESULT THAT WAS SO POORLY DONE AND ALOT OF EVIDENCE AVIIALABLE.


MIND YOU, AS SOMEONE SAID WE CAN DO FORENSIC EXAMINATION OF FINGER PRINTS AND BALLOT PAPERS.


MATCH NUMBER OF VOTERS TO REGISTERED VOTERS, ACCREDITED VOTERS.


MAHMOOD, SHOULD KNOW LIE THIS BIG, WILL NEED MORE LIE TO COVER AND WE WILL CATCH HIM, BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT HE DID.
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by afbstrategies: 10:03am On Apr 12, 2023
They’re now lining the pockets of former INEC officials to comment on things they don’t know.
Nigeria is a morally bankrupt and conscience-deficient Country.
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by Nobody: 10:08am On Apr 12, 2023
[quote author=Christistruth03 post=122461861][/quote]

this thrash was debunked same day
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by bentenny(m): 10:09am On Apr 12, 2023
tunjilana:


Lawyers will tell you that you cant build something on Nothing....INEC Guideline derives from the electoral laws. No part of the Law says that INEC must release a "BINDING" guideline prior election, those are just operational efficiency actions, put in place by the comission and it isnt superior to the ACT. The judges will simply look at the ACT and compare what INEC did against it. If INEC transmission is still in line with the provisions of the ACT, then no story
The ACT gave INEC the power to decide which mode of transmission to adopt!

INEC chooses e-transmission from the PU as contained in their guidelines and regulations which is in fulfillment of the electoral act itself!

INEC guidelines and regulations was made to give clarity as to the mode of transmission which is in line with the electoral law hence it would be wrong to insinuate that INEC's guidelines and regulations do not hold as much power as the electoral laws itself!

If INEC had adopted manual transmission,there would have been no need for this controversy or the humongous funds allocated to them to ensure e-transmission!

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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by onuman: 10:11am On Apr 12, 2023
If Electronic transmission of votes before collation becomes difficult for this outdated former INEC Spokesman to understand, when Mahmood Yakubu announced the results of the presidential election, he had not got half of the transmitted results from the polling units.
This man wants to bend or redefine the Electoral Act of 2022 to suit his choice candidate from his ethnic group, Bola Tinubu.
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by simplesearch: 10:12am On Apr 12, 2023
This is where the problem lies, 'the process'. They don't ever want to get it right. How will a man of means who knows the school that can give his ward the best form of education in life, opt for the one that can't guarantee such if he's not up for mischief?
The process was flawed and the product too will be flawed. Do the right and best thing, and let the winner be bold to hold his head high.
If the election was not rigged, how can APC ever win Rivers state?

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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by bentenny(m): 10:18am On Apr 12, 2023
Christistruth03:
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If indeed there were attacks according to pantami,in order to protect the credibility of the elections, INEC should have ordered that the elections should be cancelled while tackling the alleged cyber attacks on the portal....
Secondly,what INEC had previously said as reason for their inability to transmit electronically is in conflict with what pantami was saying!
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by KazikageSama: 10:20am On Apr 12, 2023
Why is INEC afraid of transparency?
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by yusfatedeeprof(m): 10:22am On Apr 12, 2023
cktheluckyman:

This was exactly what was contained in the electoral law.If the BVAS malfunctioned cancel the elections
Bivas worked. The issue is that the results weren't transmitted to the IREV in real-time. Collation of results is still manual, results will not be collated using the IREV, it will be collated manually. That's simply what Inec is saying.

The only problem from LP and Pdp is that the results were not being uploaded directly from the polling units to the IREV and that allegedly gave room for the results to be manipulated during manual collation.
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by onuman: 10:23am On Apr 12, 2023
"But collation is still manual.".. Osaze

Before nko? Will they use toes to press the computer keys to collate the results?
It's still manual.
In contest is INEC's flouting of the Regulations of the Electoral Act, as well as flouting the Regulations that INEC Chairman vowed before the public in November 2022, that the next general elections would be conducted electronically, beginning from electronic identification of intending voters, to use of BVAS to electronically transmit voting results to appropriate INEC portal in real time, so as to enable voters follow the progress of the election to the end, and see how the winner emerges. INEC reneged on the Regulations. It's a breach of trust by INEC.

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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by theredaddy: 10:23am On Apr 12, 2023
mrvitalis:
According to him ooh "before you start collection you have to look at the electronically collected results "

Now that INEC announced results before results were uploaded ... why electronic results did they view to confirm

No body is saying results should be collected online ...we are saying online results were not uploaded ontime to give parties opportunity to verify and challenge results at he collection centers


So he is backing wat labour and obidients have been saying


Are you even aware of the collation process at all,
From the polling unit to ward to state level, every party agent are to sign on the original sheet and every party is entitled to a copy

The Irev was setup to eliminate the chances of the Original results being altered at any level of collation before it get to the national centre. it was a decoy to wade politicians off

The IRev is not for parties to look and verify becos parties should have copies of the EC8a which is the most authentic evidence ...however till date not PDP or LP as come out to say there party agent were not given copy of original at polling unit or state level and they all signed.

When INEC was reading results no party agent countered Yakubu with the copy of original EC8a they had, they just want Inec to stop, where is it done
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by Christistruth03: 10:26am On Apr 12, 2023
bentenny:

Last year LP took INEC to court after the amended electoral law to compel the institution to only use electronic transmission of results...however,the judge rightly stated that INEC will be the one to determine which mode of transmission to use!
This INEC did later by drafting rules and guidelines as an extension of the electoral laws and stated explicitly that E-TRANSMISSION is MANDATORY and as the guidelines states,the results must be uploaded from the POLLING UNIT first before leaving the PU!
This is where the real-time narrative becomes relevant!
If you have time,go and study the guidelines and regulations of INEC which is as mandatory as the electoral laws itself!


E Transmission in not mandatory in the Election Law
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by cktheluckyman: 10:27am On Apr 12, 2023
yusfatedeeprof:

Bivas worked. The issue is that the results weren't transmitted to the IREV in real-time. Collation of results is still manual, results will not be collated using the IREV, it will be collated manually. That's simply what Inec is saying.

The only problem from LP and Pdp is that the results were not being uploaded directly from the polling units to the IREV and that allegedly gave room for the results to be manipulated during manual collation.
Exactly why the elections should be cancelled
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by slimfit1(m): 10:29am On Apr 12, 2023
Refund the money spent on technology. How do you spend so much money to do something at the end you say you are not going to use it.

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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by onuman: 10:29am On Apr 12, 2023
theredaddy:



Are you even aware of the collation process at all,
From the polling unit to ward to state level, every party agent are to sign on the original sheet and every party is entitled to a copy

The Irev was setup to eliminate the chances of the Original results being altered at any level of collation before it get to the national centre. it was a decoy to wade politicians off

The IRev is not for parties to look and verify becos parties should have copies of the EC8a which is the most authentic evidence ...however till date not PDP or LP as come out to say there party agent were not given copy of original at polling unit or state level and they all signed.

When INEC was reading results no party agent countered Yakubu with the copy of original EC8a they had, they just want Inec to stop, where is it done

Liar, iREV is for everyone who is interested to watch the progress of the election to access and monitor the progress of the election and see how winner emerges.

No law gave Mahmood Yakubu powers to unilaterally give us a president-elect through his outdated and illegal manual collation of vote results.

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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by Pickmycall: 10:32am On Apr 12, 2023
They don't want Nigeria election to be credible at all.The senate committee who amended the electoral law received huge allowances for that purpose.

However,Inec spent billions of naira to procure BVA devices and IREV.So why spent such amount of money when you know it is not mandatory to use it?

300billion naira of public funds just wasted like that and nobody is going to be prosecuted.Who swear for Nigeria?
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by tunjilana: 10:33am On Apr 12, 2023
bentenny:

The ACT gave INEC the power to decide which mode of transmission to adopt!

INEC chooses e-transmission from the PU as contained in their guidelines and regulations which is in fulfillment of the electoral act itself!

INEC guidelines and regulations was made to give clarity as to the mode of transmission which is in line with the electoral law hence it would be wrong to insinuate that INEC's guidelines and regulations do not hold as much power as the electoral laws itself!

If INEC had adopted manual transmission,there would have been no need for this controversy or the humongous funds allocated to them to ensure e-transmission!

And did this guideline also tell you that the electronic upload will be done on election day, did it tell you that the portal will be the basis of collation or just a medium for people to see results?... If you write CBT exam in your school and the sch authority says that they will email your result to you but later decided to post it in your faculty, does that have any bearing on the score you got in the exam....

The ACT is superior to any oerational procedure or guideline released by INEC and as long as what INEC did doesnt contradict the ACT, it is fair game
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by tunjilana: 10:34am On Apr 12, 2023
cktheluckyman:

No wonder you are not a lawyer.Shebi INEC will automatically change their guidelines without informing the stakeholders? That is even the easiest way to get the elections annulled


The ACT is superior to any operational procedure or guideline released by INEC and as long as what INEC did, doesnt contradict the ACT, it is fair game
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by jaxxy(m): 10:37am On Apr 12, 2023
hammerT:


NO LEAVE HIM TO BE DEBATING COLLATION, I.E. SHIFTING GOAL POST.


WHERE WE WILL NAIL HIM IS THE TRAMISSION.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVv6Jr2zRUs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62_6cJHniBY

They want Nigerians to look like they are crazy. Or we don't know what we are saying or don't know what we heard or saw bt their ultimate disgrace awaits them.

Inec is in for a disgrace and will reverse and correct its criminality.

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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by IfnobeGod20: 10:45am On Apr 12, 2023
What Mr. Oluwole said is not in any way contradict what Obi said or petitioned. Obi never never said the collation suppose be done electronically but the votes and results of the election was promised repeatedly even at Chatham House to be transmitted electronically by INEC chairman. The question is, why did the commission reneged on its promise as the electoral Act mandated them to determine, which they determined before the election? Any guideline brought at the middle of the game is null and void. No reasonable person creates rules at the middle of the game. That's foul play.
Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by IfnobeGod20: 10:50am On Apr 12, 2023
tunjilana:



The ACT is superior to any operational procedure or guideline released by INEC and as long as what INEC did, doesnt contradict the ACT, it is fair game
Mr. Man, the electoral Act mandated the INEC to formulate guidelines for the elections. Meaning the guidelines are as formidable as the electoral Act. You will read from the electoral Act as thus: "as may be determined by the commission".
Before the election, the commission promised through their various guidelines that the results will be transmitted in real time. They said it in print and in voice. INEC should go to court and defend that and stop playing on the sensibilities of Nigerians.

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Re: Electronic Collation Of Results Not Compulsory – Ex-INEC Spokesman by yusfatedeeprof(m): 10:53am On Apr 12, 2023
cktheluckyman:

Exactly why the elections should be cancelled
Nope. The electoral act says the results must be transmitted electronically, that is on the IREV. It didn't say it has to be in real-time from the polling units.

Though Inec said they're going to upload on the IREV in real-time but it has been established that they reserve the right to change it at any point in time. They uploaded but not in real-time

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