MondayOsunbor:



my brother ask them

Man proposes, God disposes! You can plan for years but on that day, things may not go as planned. That doesn't mean we will no forge ahead. The country must move on so long as the situation doesn't affect the conduct of the election substantially. Electronic transmission has nothing to do with the election. Without it elections can still be conducted credibly.

paymentvoucher:


The manner prescribed by INEC has been announced by INEC chairman after the election to be Manual Collation at the ward level, State Level and was transmitted to the screen for everyone to see at the Collation Centre (FCT).

Meanwhile there is no law that compel INEC to use IREV by fire by force.

You don't issue guidelines for an event after the event has taken place.
The guidelines prescribed by INEC and backed by the electoral act before the election is legally binding, INEC doesn't have the power to change the guidelines after it has been issued.

TheAdvocate:


Unfortunately for you and your postulations, the Supreme Court can overrule itself and can change its position on a particular issue. The Electoral Act said INEC can choose any method to transmit the results and once it picks a particular method, it is bound by it. In this instance, INEC indeed in a press statement picked a particular method.
Again, legally speaking, no two cases are the same.

They did not make a choice by press statements only, they did so by making electronic result transmission mode mandatory in the 2023 election guideline. And these guidelines are laws that INEC has the power to make in order to regulate elections management according to the supreme court.

paymentvoucher:
You were part of the people that ask him questions and he responded.

Hope your thinking capacitor has been restored.

You are going off at a tangent...

Hope everything is ok?

Enice:
someone can say he/she will bring heaven to earth but if he/she doesn't do it and there's no law to back what he/she said plus there are no consequence to it, then you can't do anything. Where there are no laws, there are no offense.

Are you thinking at all?

There is an electoral act and election results conducted that day were transmitted...

Just that Mahmoud criminally refused to allow the transmission of the results of the presidential results...

In an objective and fair adjudication, Tinubu and INEC are toast...

Kukutenla:

That was in reference to voter accreditation data not results.
You guys are mixing things up.
Simple English comprehension

So, if the court agreed that it is possible for accreditation data not to be transmitted to IREV from polling units for reasons such as network failure, battery power, polling officers not pressing the correct bottom etc, they will not believe it is possible for results not to be transmitted from same polling units to IREV for same reasons?

Lol. You’re the one that needs serious training in n basic English language comprehension.

OGHENAOGIE:
tell Obi and kwankwanso to go back to PDP with their supporters of they want to defeat APC 2027 then pick tambuwai as president candidate...

.., see speaking in tongues abeg
Abeg, you be prayer warrior for ur area? 😅
.., me no dey understand wetin you dey talk

sharpchap:


OGA MAKE I QUOTE YOU NO VEX OOOOO! SORRY ON MORE CAREFUL EXAMINATION OF THE FACTS THE JUDGEMENT SPEAKS OF ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION OF ACCREDITED VOTERS NOT RESULTS. EVEN THEN I STILL THINK THE APC CASE WAS POORLY PRESENTED STRATEGICALLY TO ARRIVE AT THIS CONCLUSION. OUR EYES ARE STILL OPEN AND WE ARE READY. THEY NEARLY SUCCEEDED IN CONFUSING US OOOOOOO I NO GO LIE. WAYO PEOPLE. OMO THIS CASE TOUGH . THESE GUYS ARE FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL

What’s the process of transmitting results and accreditation data?

Ofunaofu:


seunmsg, this is your assumptions

The case is in court as regards the presidential election

Let's leave it at that

A decided case by the Supreme Court is no longer an assumption. It is now the law until it is changed by an act of the NASS.

"there is no law that requires presiding officers to transmit by BVAS the number of accredited voters or accreditation of the polls to the database or backend server of INEC as claimed by the appellants"



The simple truth is that there are many stupid or daft people sleeping on this forum,here the court was making reference to transmitting accredited voters WHILE Obi went to court to challenge the transmission of results from BIVAS to the IREVs this are two different things

shortgun:

The wicked runs when no one is chasing him.
Obi is coming

Yes,we are waiting for him at Agulu

Christistruth02:
We already told them so but they were insulting us because they lost

If INEC wishes they can even make elections manual their duty is just

to hold credible elections

So what ya saying is
Instead of us to go electronically voting system with live data set and real time results we should be stuck in deep down analogue voting where pen and result sheets decide who wins an election all in the bid to allow Tinubu to rule??

Haba Na

We must evolve and reason beyond ethnic lines

tinsel:

The Supreme had ruled on this matter. And you are still confusing yourself and giving yourself hope.

It is not easy to face bare facts.

Aufbauh:
I've learnt not to be too hard on the wailers most especially the Obiends as they need our help.

My observations stems from the fact that these people are inherently frustrated from serial defeat & misjudgements. This has caused them to be chasing shadows all the time & giving solidity to mere whirlwind.

Obi case against the President-elect should be liken to Biafra passport leading to nowhere!

You still have mouth to call Biafra, after one of them help your useless stranded brothers to come back from Sudan where they went to learn terrorist work to kill your people in Ondo.

You will never learn till you die.

Even if the Tribunal wants to stick to the outmoded version of Nigeria's fraudulent election process of secret thumbprint of ballot papers by ppliticians taking note of the number in voters register, take the fraudulent results to INEC which accepts and pronunces the candidate of the fraudsters winner; what about Tinubu not winning the required 25% in Abuja? What about Tinubu's certificate forgery? What about Tinubu's perjury of denial of dual citizenship? Tinubu's drug matter apart? Tinubu's going nowhere to be president of Nigeria.

Ofunaofu:


Imagine

So you don't even know the reason for the adjournment
You are a zombie

Why not educate my ignorant ass, or is it tew much

If inec wasn't bound by any law to transmit election results electronically why then did yakubu spend over #300b to acquire the bvas machines and even went ahead to publicly assure nigerians that the results will be transmitted electronically in record time? These people are really playing with the intelligence of nigerians.

You wrote your own INEC constitution? You are funny sha.

Ofunaofu:
These are beer parlour analysis, we are yet to get the CTC of the judgement


Are you aware of what is called emerging new facts

INEC is bound by the Electoral law and it's election guidelines to transmit results electronically. The INEC chairman made that point clear severally at different foras that the results of the 2023 general election, i.e polling units results will be transmitted electronically to the IREV real time on the election day

seanfer:


Boss what you call emerging facts must be back by law. Is there any law that says INEC must upload results immediately on the server? Even if the INEC chairman said so it is not in the electoral act or constitution so it’s not going to fly at the tribunal.
This judgement will be a precedent and it will be mentioned in the presidential election tribunal.

Wishful thinking

thinkmoney:
What I read from this piece and that was the bane of the case between PDP and APC in Osun is BVAS and the duly registered voters. The court decision if true is that INEC is not mandated to transmit in real time the number of people registered to vote on BVAS. This is duly stored on BVAS anyways. This is different from the presidential case which is failure to transmit in real time the result of each polling boot (not registered voters in Osuns case) for the presidential election.

What is the process of transmitting accredited voters and polling unit results to IREV? Are polling units results not stored on BVAS?

So, if the court agrees that it may be impossible to transmit accreditation information stored on BVAS to IREV in real time from the polling unit for reasons like battery power, network problem, polling officers not pressing the correct button etc, why then will the court turn around and insist that results stored on same BVAS must be transmitted in real time? Will the same factors that prevented the real time transmission of accreditation data not affect the real time transmission of results?

See, I don’t have to spell it out to you guys but the truth is the IREV argument is lost already. The Supreme Court will not reverse itself. We are pointing some of these things out now so that you guys won’t start calling our justices name when they use the same law to trash Peter Obi’s case.

shortgun:


You don't issue guidelines for an event after the event has taken place.
The guidelines prescribed by INEC and backed by the electoral act before the election is legally binding, INEC doesn't have the power to change the guidelines after it has been issued.

We are patiently waiting for the outcome of the tribunal in the next few years.

Ofunaofu:
These are beer parlour analysis, we are yet to get the CTC of the judgement


Are you aware of what is called emerging new facts

INEC is bound by the Electoral law and it's election guidelines to transmit results electronically. The INEC chairman made that point clear severally at different foras that the results of the 2023 general election, i.e polling units results will be transmitted electronically to the IREV real time on the election day

Words of the INEC chairman. Quote any section of d Electoral law that mandates dem to transmit electronically. Untill den, d case is good as dead.

moodyguy:
Wishful thinking

"An election result shall only be collated if the Collation Officer ascertains that the number of accredited voters agrees with the number recorded in the BVAS and votes scored by Political Parties on the result sheet is correct and agrees with the result electronically transmitted or transferred directly from the Polling Unit

The guideline is clear. INEC can use electronic transmission or manual transmission directly from polling units. Both are allowed. In the last election, the collation was done based on manual transmission directly from polling units. So, what is your point again? Is there a law or guideline that says it must be electronic transmission or nothing?

maestroferddi:
Are you thinking at all?

There is an electoral act and election results conducted that day were transmitted...

Just that Mahmoud criminally refused to allow the transmission of the results of the presidential results...

In an objective and fair adjudication, Tinubu and INEC are toast...

Oga, you are the one not thinking! Not even a bit! The electoral act does not say results SHALL be transmitted electronically! What it says is that results shall be manually counted, manually collated, and the EC8A is the form in which it is recorded. EC8A is the original! Any other document is a duplication of EC8A.

Ofunaofu:
These are beer parlour analysis, we are yet to get the CTC of the judgement


Are you aware of what is called emerging new facts

INEC is bound by the Electoral law and it's election guidelines to transmit results electronically. The INEC chairman made that point clear severally at different foras that the results of the 2023 general election, i.e polling units results will be transmitted electronically to the IREV real time on the election day

Mumu 😂😂😂😂

Walamide:
A win for pdp in Osun but the same yardstick will be used to decide the presidential election.. I see a big loss at tribunal for LP/PDP.

You are very smart!!!I give it all to Tinubu if he has a hand in this...he is a good chess player,he sacrificed Osun's judgement in other to favor himself.....

Loonyy:


So what ya saying is
Instead of us to go electronically voting system with live data set and real time results we should be stuck in deep down analogue voting where pen and result sheets decide who wins an election all in the bid to allow Tinubu to rule??

Haba Na

We must evolve and reason beyond ethnic lines

If INEC decides to use pen and paper to count and calculate the Election Votes

It has the right to do so

It’s Legal duty is just to hold credible Elections

The law leaves how to deliver and collate the results entirely to the discretion of INEC

and it has nothing to do with ethnicity


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Loonyy:


So what ya saying is
Instead of us to go electronically voting system with live data set and real time results we should be stuck in deep down analogue voting where pen and result sheets decide who wins an election all in the bid to allow Tinubu to rule??

Haba Na

We must evolve and reason beyond ethnic lines

Evolve and reasoning above ethnic line yet a region decided to bless there SON with 95% vote, and you expect us to see it as a democratic reasoning.
IF every region had voted the way East did, who will win

tinsel:
From the above, we can see that Obi and Atiku have no case in the tribunal. What they are doing is a mere waste of time and probably to continue giving their supporters hope especially the noisy Obidients.

Go to school, you refused. See how difficult it is for you to see the ratio as clearly stated in this report.

Whatever you claim in court, the onus of proof has been shifted to you and you must discharge that burden of proof beyond any reasonable doubt.

They failed to obtained the CTC of the INEC backend server to support their claim. It's very simple to understand.

That real time transmission argument is dead on arrival. Let's move to other issues.

tinsel:
From the above, we can see that Obi and Atiku have no case in the tribunal. What they are doing is a mere waste of time and probably to continue giving their supporters hope especially the noisy Obidients.

Reading with comprehension is a skill. Thanks