buzugee:

is it under like say properties or foreign affairs or politics or etc etc. under what section ? i may be a nairaland veteran of sorts but my stay here has been maligned by tunnel vision. i only look at 3 sections
1, politics
2, front page
3, most recently this section, foreign affairs.

isale_gan2:

Link here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-590933.3104.html

Or go to General, then Nairaland. . .

P.S.  I guess I can't blame you this time.  It is quite hard to find.  I forgot the Mods/Seun moved it twice.  It's had 3 different homes/Forums, starting with "Foreign Affairs." 

buzugee:

way to make capitalism sound very noble. bros, the idea of capitalism is to window dress greed. to try to harness greed into a system. to make greed more palatable to the masses. to make greed more humane. ultimately, you cannot extricate one from the other. it is the front-end of greed which is the back-end. capitalism makes greed more user friendly. i think a hybrid of capitalism with socialism is the ultimate system.

morpheus24:

That's weird you would advocate a combination of the two seeing that most capitalist systems are hardly absolute  in of themselves.

The core issue for capitalist systems has always boiled down to according Corporations the same rights and privileges as 'individuals" when substantively, their complex nature hardly allows them to be defined as such, creating a dilemma for the true intentions of what a capitalist system was imagined to be. The INCENTIVE to maximize the efficiencies of all factors of production for the benefit of the COMMUNE.

That aint no window dressing bro. Its the reality of the problem.

buzugee:

Hmmmm. not sure i understand what you are getting at. my problem with capitalism is that it tries to extract infinite resources from a finite supply. it transforms people into materialistic goons. it corrupts people. it destroys the planet. it brings out the worst in humans. it condenses wealth into the hands of a few. it creates poverty. it creates suffering. depletes the planet. basically it is a pyramid scheme that cannot go on forever without collapsing.

morpheus24:

The element in the composition/equation that makes capitalism work properly lies in the "desire to incentivize " and how this incentive is distributed to continue to allow for innovation and sustain the system. The anomaly is created when this particular component is defined in "INFINITE" terms on both sides of the equation. In order words when is enough profits enough over the point where it destroys other elements that are required to sustain the system.

The anomaly is driven via a Human flaw "GREED". Man/Concentrated power desires more power.  Marx's and Mao championed alternatives via Coummunism or socialism to adddress this anomaly but in reality the flaw exists outside the equation and cannot be addressed by switching the numbers around or trying to destroy it. The key is in TRANSFORMATION!!!!

Hope the above is not to complicated for you now.

buzugee:

nah it aint too complicated. its just that you have an uncanny way of using so many words to say so little anyway i digress, yes i get where you are coming from. capitalism is driven by incentives which then spills over into greed if unchecked and then eats itself up from inside. i hear you. and you are proposing that the only way to keep capitalism going is via 'transformation'. by transformation i am assuming you mean by 'capping' salaries etc ? 'capping' introduced to keep that human frailty called greed in check.

morpheus24:

Something along those lines

buzugee:

gotcha dawg. so where you based at ? Naija, Uk, Us ? oh and if i have been a tad bit belligerent in my posts, its cuz you started out by calling me a M O R O N so i apologize. us nubian folks gotta be civil to each other.

morpheus24:

M.o.r.O.N was only used to spark the conversation. Studies show the cognitive abilities of people are heightened when they are challenged in such a fashion. I take that back.

I have pretty much lived in a lot of countries spanning the US, Europe and Africa. My base is the planet earth(sarcasm) but I am falling in love with Abuja.

buzugee:

lol you definitely are onto something cuz it definitely worked on me. my cognitive abilities stepped up a notch never been to Abj myself but dunno if i can risk being in that part of the world. i mean i know it is a secular place but it is still in the north, home to crazy religious fanatics. somehow i dont fancy some malo using my neck to sharpen his knife. i aint feeling that.

morpheus24:

If you step inside Abuja coming from oversees you will not want to go back to lagos unless you like hustle and bustle non stop and this is coming from a bonifide Lagos boy.

MandingoII:

morpheus ENJOYS listening to Western and White Media Bulls.h, it that capitalizes off Poor folks. He literally believes he is one of them.

Yet. When he look around he sees only a marginal existence. THIS SYSTEM does not include him. Yet, he like soooo many newly american immigrants will do White folks DIRT just to get a few crumbs flicked their way.


These are PATHETIC human beings.

Did you even watch the video. Your slow brain probably just saw the white man on the screen and came to a conclusion. Unfortunately RETARDS cannot help their condition. Their brains did not develop properly. Its okay though you still Human.

morpheus24:

Morpheus says " give the people all the information and not what you want them to see or and trust that they are intelligent enough to make the final decisions for themselves. FREE YOUR MIND!!"

Branding Africa conference on issues having to do with Problems in Africa's governance and sustainability.
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cap28:

^^^

last time i checked it was the responsibility of GOVERNMENTS to provide for their citizens not individuals and western sponsored NGOs. 
nigeria is an oil rich nation, why should i donate money towards the economic development of a country that makes over $35 billion USD a year from oil revenue?

the question you should be asking is - why is it that most african countries have failed to provide education, affordable housing, jobs, decent roads, clean running water and electricity for the majority of its citizens DESPITE its vast mineral wealth?

if you think those gutless cowards sitting in that room are on the front line then i have an ocean front apartment in arizona that i think you might be interested in buying.

frontline my arse - how come their actions begin and end with just talking?

Kindly list for me one tangible thing any so called NGO has ever done for anyone in africa.

Could you explain Japan's rise to 1st world status in this context? I know that they have resisted western powers in the past (WWII), but would you know of any events that led them to holding their position as developed, technologically advanced, and most respected out of all the Asian countries in international politics?

MandingoII:

America gave them free reign!

remember Japan had a AWESOME military. When they nolonger put over 50% of their money into their military, they put that money into THEIR PEOPLE. JAPAN BUILT HUMAN CAPITAL.

Remember, Japan has always been smart mofos!!!!

They are the ELITES of the Asians. They were FAR SUPERIOR than all asians because they were WELL EDUCATED.

Check their history. Their government MADE THEM get out of the stone age and into COMPETING with the west.

Japan wanted to colonize the East (Asians countries) like Europe colonizied Africa and everything else

Nnenna1:

CAP28

I've been reading some of your posts and I find them interesting. You mentioned once that Western/European countries work together to ensure that their economies flourish and they hold the upper hand in international politics.

Could you explain Japan's rise to 1st world status in this context? I know that they have resisted western powers in the past (WWII), but would you know of any events that led them to holding their position as developed, technologically advanced, and most respected out of all the Asian countries in international politics?

Apologies for this off topic question, by the way.

america dropped two atomic bombs on japan during the second world war even after the japanese had agreed to surrender