1Dray:


When your men start have weak erections or low libido don't blame them. Go and ask women that reside around Kaduna refinery, how their husbands fared in bed.

We prefer that. As long as they have money. Who their prick epp?
Btw am in Abuja and hasn't heard the hoax you mentioned about Kaduna refinery.
You must be a black faced lier!

iammo:




It isn't built in a crowded area... Lekki Free trade zone is an industrial area far away from crowded zone

It's by the sea close to the Atlantic ocean and pollution can't reach mainland Lagos

Sorry
You are still a baby in the subject matter

Mrfeel:
How about the environmental pollution it will cause in Lagos , is lagos not too small and crowded for such a big refinery?

I read:
Oil refineries emit large amounts of air pollutants such as sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, and particulate matter. These pollutants can cause respiratory problems, including asthma, and increase the risk of heart disease and lung cancer etc i think lagos is too small and crowded for such a big refinery

Hope you are not sick?
Enemies of progress.
You said no refinery,they did one, you still dey complain

Ellasure:


prophets of dooms.

do you have specific experiences or through reading plagiarized documents on the internet?

He isn't wrong. I've stayed close to at least three to four refineries as they're refineries across my paternal and maternal homes. My dear, they make life hell. The heat is hellish....


It is better to have it broken to pieces and splitter across multiple locations

Originalsly:


Refineries are not usually located close to large residential areas because of the pollutants and their effect on health. In developed countries the EPA is very proactive .. emissions are closely monitored and laws are consistently enforced. What is our track record on pollution? It seems like we as a nation are ignorant of the effects of this kind pollution. When the effects start taking a toll on our health we will either blame village people or the devil. We neither have the capacity to monitor pollutants nor the capacity to manage the consequences.

Thank you. Sound mind

[quote author=thisisit post=123310889] ghetto lifestyle

This is how you people looks for trouble, is it someone's problem that you are a less privilege. And I am very sure someone like has never been to Lagos before. You should mind what you say about others.

BabaAduras:


Modern refineries are not major pollutants. I work and live in Corpus Christ, Tx, USA. There are about 5 major oil related industries in the city.

In the cooler climate, the heat is not felt. How do we tap put the entire heat the production emits ? Our other refineries are hellish o. You visit your homies at home and you have to run cause the heat is ferried across kilo meters reaching you. From Delta to Baylesa to Rivers it's the same.

However if modern engineering solutions are employed, it's good. But let's keep on r fingers crossed across a 3-5 years duration to study it's effects

Before I am attacked for my unbias comments. There's crude oil in my father's land. My land by right I rejected. Refinery in my mother's land. Was offered jobs in Mobil , Saipem and co as far back as 20 years back. I've resided around at least three refineries, from Rivers to Bayelsa to Delta to Akwa Ibom. I'm everywhere



So, my comments are borne out of over 15-21 years view of being around communities close to refineries, oil fields and the sorts

My personal opinion is that I'll watch the project over the next 4-5 years before I draw any opinion or biases of my own

CyracksMrBlogger:
the Nigerian mentality. Always want to be negative. Dangote will employ expertriate from China, India and other countries that are positive minded and hard-working instead of Nigerians that always want to sabotage any good effort. A loss to Nigerians, na una cause am. Isssssh!

I hardly make wrong projections , by this time next year Nigeria will still be importing petrol because Dangote refinery can't meet up and the difference is that it's Dangote that will be the major importer then ...I will cime back to remind U

SalamRushdie:


I hardly make wrong projections , by this time next year Nigeria will still be importing petrol because Dangote refinery can't meet up and the difference is that it's Dangote that will be the major importer then ...I will cime back to remind U

Yes. But you have to have a more comprehensive view this time boss o


Have you not noticed all that's happening in this sector on am holistic stage boss ?


An ibeju boss is building a like 300,000 bod refinery


Dangote

Modular refineries scattered all over


Abdul Rahman 200,000 BPD


Alot will happen in the petroleum sector over the next five years


I think we're entering the bottom end of the wave of the crude oil boom on a global scale of you ask me Sir



I hope you've seen concessions FG and Dangote signed..that all oil.imports must be done solely by refineries with over 100,000bpd so when the refinery is not working he switches to importation with no one knowing


The creation of this new monopolistic monster is another factor I'm watching the refinery for.



For me. It's better we explore Hydrogen, Feul cells, Solar, Wind, nano nuclear devices, fission, thermal.energy as more futuristic energy supplies sources

Goodlady:

Go and call thunder. Am sure thunder sef get sense pass you and it ll rather fire you for becoming daft!
Akwa Ibom is militant area too.
Moreso, you can't compare the international prospect Lagos enjoy to anywhere in south west or any other state. Your Apa-Ibom cos that's how it sounds was rejected for technical reasons. If you are pained, but suya, eat the meat and pour the pepper into your eyes.

Fool thinks I am from akwa ibom...I be ikwerre man and in terms of having serene, friendly and clean environment your Lagos no near akwa ibom.

Boss469:


Fool thinks I am from akwa ibom...I be ikwerre man and in terms of having serene, friendly and clean environment your Lagos no near akwa ibom.

I agree. However, I prefer Lagos to your Ikwere ogogoro infested land or Apa-Ibom.
The inflation in Rivers State is insanely high that's why you guys are all on debt and still run down to south west. Sooth has entered your nose this noon. Am I lying? Clean your face with white handky if it won't be like it dropped inside used engine oil.
And as I dey look your head, SAPA dey there. It's been long you enjoyed good AC so your brain for dey hot & vibrate.
Lastly, I m Abj based. But I relate well across Nigeria.

Goodlady:

I agree. However, I prefer Lagos to your Ikwere ogogoro infested land or Apa-Ibom.
The inflation in Rivers State is insanely high that's why you guys are all on debt and still run down to south west. Sooth has entered your nose this noon. Am I lying? Clean your face with white handky if it won't be like it dropped inside used engine oil.
And as I dey look your head, SAPA dey there. It's been long you enjoyed good AC so your brain for dey hot & vibrate.
Lastly, I m Abj based. But I relate well across Nigeria.

Come for pH and see ur stinking dirty mama and daughters Hawking agbo. Ikwerre man no go fit go anoda man land dey do petty hustle. We are bigger than that kind degrading business. For ph we know una as dirty people same way Abuja folks go don know una.

Wodu89:


In the cooler climate, the heat is not felt. How do we tap put the entire heat the production emits ? Our other refineries are hellish o. You visit your homies at home and you have to run cause the heat is ferried across kilo meters reaching you. From Delta to Baylesa to Rivers it's the same.

However if modern engineering solutions are employed, it's good. But let's keep on r fingers crossed across a 3-5 years duration to study it's effects

I agree with you to an extent.

We are talking about one of the most modern refineries in the world that was designed and built with measures to curb environmental impact.

Styluss:
Lol, this one na mumu o, you think everyone is a riff raff like you? and what difference does it make if I use tecno phone to comment? You are just proofing to be Stuppiiidd more and more. Ode oshi

my friend get your madness off my mention!!!.

beerfraud:
IPob terrorists will blow it up if situated in south east

Or Obidients. Or ESN. Or ‘unknown gunmen’.

Dsalvo:


Your concerns are valid but I am confident the exhaustive environmental impact assessment studies done has taken care of potential problems noted.

Nothing and no one is perfect but big projects like this tend to have very solid, comprehensive and effective EIA reports and it appears the Dangote refinery project does from studies I have read.

The challenge is for relevant agencies to also adhere to guidelines and residential set-back recommendations without allowing corruption compromise their dedication to duty.

The site itself was chosen strategically and carefully as meeting criteria for location of the refinery.

https://businessday.ng/energy/article/residents-face-real-risk-of-living-near-dangote-refinery/

Thank you. There’s no way a 20 billion dollar project funded by a wide variety of local and international financial institutions hasn’t gone through rigorous and extensive environmental impact assessments to determine its long-term viability.

Boss469:


"We no dey quick blow" at least we no dey hawk agbo and meat like your dirty people m how many ikwerres wey dey day dirty state? Only my communities ya smelling people full pass ikwerres wey dey lag. Fact be say na abj we dey go, not that dirty state.

Selling of agbo doesn't belittle Yorubaland. Those agbo sellers should be hailed for their legit hustle. You can't take class way from the south west. I grew up there and is still in touch. As developed and planned as Abuja is, it's still not a match for Lagos.
So since you v no basis to drag southwest, I ll be lenient with you. Cos master na master. We are above other tribes not by boast but by results. I hope Wike never use Rivers mortgage finish so that Fubara ll see small cake chop. And I hope Fubara do better than Wike else na sorry be una case.
Btw, this pot bellied comedian called Sabinus, I learnt he's from your state. He's doing well.

werey, alaye park well

plumcomm:
my friend get your madness off my mention!!!.

Mrfeel:

Out of these 3 States you mentioned , ogun and ondo are the best, why small and crowded Lagos that's my question

You repeating this question like there is an agenda

First off Lagos was not the first choice

It was ogun but differences with the governor made him look elsewhere

Maybe he would have gone to the south-south and the expatriate working there will be kidnapped everyweek

Mrfeel:

The population there is not much , plus there are forest with alot of trees there

when mimiko dey form van darm ukan?

Goodlady:

Selling of agbo doesn't belittle Yorubaland. Those agbo sellers should be hailed for their legit hustle. You can't take class way from the south west. I grew up there and is still in touch. As developed and planned as Abuja is, it's still not a match for Lagos.
So since you v no basis to drag southwest, I ll be lenient with you. Cos master na master. We are above other tribes not by boast but by results. I hope Wike never use Rivers mortgage finish so that Fubara ll see small cake chop. And I hope Fubara do better than Wike else na sorry be una case.
Btw, this pot bellied comedian called Sabinus, I learnt he's from your state. He's doing well.

Fool using entertainers as a yard stick of "quick blow" u don see any ikwerre man for that abj u dey wey dey do petty hustle?

U dey above yaself in every ramifications una no near us.

Security reason is another cogent factor.

Flangelo12:


What is wrong with capitalism?

If you were given the visa to USA today, tell us you wouldn't go.

What makes you think I haven't already visited USA? Besides, what's the point with your question? Why not use Angola or Sudan, also capitalist countries.

Use this phrase as a guideline when you think of Capitalism -- "Just because you can doesn't mean you should"

CAPITALISM
The question should be what isn't wrong with Capitalism? Capitalism is a forced concept by European elites that allows them to do and take/use whatever belongs to the populace whilst impoverishing that populace. Capitalists pay peanuts to the populace, introduce insane working hours which we do for years, so they(Capitalists) can live anyhow and create waste.
Capitalists use our commonwealth/natural resources to create their wealth, so why do a few people get to decide what to do with our resources with go-ahead from the govt... because the Government is an extension of Capitalists/Elites in a Capitalist system.

Let me explain further why Capitalism is an elitist tool for exploitation. If capitalists could have their way, they would use our resources to build enterprise and make immense profit without employing a single person. Capitalists do it for themselves not for you. In Capitalism, there's always the winning side and the losing side instead of humanity side. Africa is losing Capitalism because USA/Europe is winning Capitalism. Dangote and a few MDs are winning Capitalism but a huge amount of Nigerians are losing Capitalism.

IMPERIALISM
Capitalism birthed colonialism/imperialism. Imperialism is Capitalism but on another nation's soil. Capitalism allows European Capitalists come into Nigeria and take natural resources, use it for enterprise, SIMPLY FOR PROFIT. Imperialism is insanity because initially blacks didn't have employment at European companies in Nigeria exploiting Nigerian resources SIMPLY for white profit. Does it make any sense? "Just because you can doesn't mean you should"

COMMUNISM/SOCIALISM
The idea in Karl Marx's Communism is for EVERYBODY, through the central authority, to decide what is best use for our resources, regardless of whatever innovative/passionate ideas individuals have. And the enterprise we decide on, everybody through the central authority decide working conditions and we all will be paid equally.
Under communism, enterprise is built for employment/comfort of the people not for profit. There are no poor people in Karl Marx's Communism.

Profit drives people crazy. Capitalism is why we're going to the moon with tax payers money amounting billions of dollars when there are poor people all over. "Just because you can doesn't mean you should"

Mrfeel:

Why not akwa ibom , Ondo or ogun?

PRESS STATEMENT
23rd May, 2023

Abiodun not responsible for loss of Dangote Refinery to Lagos

Our attention has been drawn to a report credited to a PDP stalwart, Segun Sowunmi, heaping blames on the successive administrations in the state, for losing a N19bn Dangote
Refinery to the neighbouring Lagos State.

Any true born Ogun indigene will sincerely be pained by the huge investment loss, especially when Ogun had been marked as the most suitable natural location for the mega project in Olokola Free Trade Zone, in Ogun Waterside Local Government Area of the state.

As we are all aware, penultimate administration made appreciable and concerted efforts to ensure that the Olokola deep sea port and other ancillary projects in the OKFTZ, become a reality, by rallying major players in the oil and gas sector, including Dangote Group.

But, the successive government between 2011 and 2019, for reasons best known to it, killed the project and frustrated the promoter of Dangote Refinery out of the state.

The present governor, Dapo Abiodun, served as the Chairman of the Committee on the Olokola Free Trade Zone projects during the first term of the immediate past governor.

Governor Abiodun, as the chairman of the committee and a big player in the oil and gas industry himself, did everything possible to make sure the project saw the light of the day.

The then governor, perhaps, having a personal axe to grind with the promoter of the refinery project, Alhaji Aliko Dangote, frustrated all the efforts of Governor Abiodun and his committee.

The immediate Chairman, Board of Directors of the Nigeria Deposit Insurance Corporation (NDIC) Mrs. Ronke Sokefun, who was then a commissioner, served as the Secretary of the committee, which engaged Dangote on the mega project.

Instead of showing enthusiasm towards hosting the project in the state, the former governor brazenly opposed and obstructed efforts of the Abiodun-led committee in ensuring that the OKFTZ came into fruition.

Having become governor in 2019, it is on record that Governor Dapo Abiodun had always rued the missed opportunity and he'd embarked on efforts in reawakening the OKFTZ. At different forums, the governor had made it known that the Olokola project is a gold mine waiting to be tapped by the state.

Apart from that, he has continued to shop for would-be investors to bring the project to life. His administration has not relented in bringing net-worth players in oil and gas as well as maritime, to ensure that the natural resources in OKFTZ such as bitumen, natural deep seaport, marine and natural gas are tapped for the economic development of Ogun State.

Even, before Aliko Dangote declared on Monday at the official commissioning of the refinery in Lagos, that Ogun was the next port of call, Governor Abiodun was already wooing Dangote to reconsider the Gateway State.

Conclusively, Governor Abiodun-led administration can never be held either directly or vicariously responsible for the loss of Dangote Refinery. All Ogun State indigenes know the administration that worked against the economic development of the state, all in the name of bad politics and shenanigans.

Rather, Governor Abiodun's government should be applauded for working to revive OKFTZ.

Kunle Somorin
Chief Press Secretary to Gov. Dapo Abiodun

Babysho:

What makes you think I haven't already visited USA? Besides, what's the point with your question? Why not use Angola or Sudan, also capitalist countries.

Use this phrase as a guideline when you think of Capitalism -- "Just because you can doesn't mean you should"

CAPITALISM
The question should be what isn't wrong with Capitalism? Capitalism is a forced concept by European elites that allows them to do and take/use whatever belongs to the populace whilst impoverishing that populace. Capitalists pay peanuts to the populace, introduce insane working hours which we do for years, so they(Capitalists) can live anyhow and create waste.
Capitalists use our commonwealth/natural resources to create their wealth, so why do a few people get to decide what to do with our resources with go-ahead from the govt... because the Government is an extension of Capitalists/Elites in a Capitalist system.

Let me explain further why Capitalism is an elitist tool for exploitation. If capitalists could have their way, they would use our resources to build enterprise and make immense profit without employing a single person. Capitalists do it for themselves not for you. In Capitalism, there's always the winning side and the losing side instead of humanity side. Africa is losing Capitalism because USA/Europe is winning Capitalism. Dangote and a few MDs are winning Capitalism but a huge amount of Nigerians are losing Capitalism.

IMPERIALISM
Capitalism birthed colonialism/imperialism. Imperialism is Capitalism but on another nation's soil. Capitalism allows European Capitalists come into Nigeria and take natural resources, use it for enterprise, SIMPLY FOR PROFIT. Imperialism is insanity because initially blacks didn't have employment at European companies in Nigeria exploiting Nigerian resources SIMPLY for white profit. Does it make any sense? "Just because you can doesn't mean you should"

COMMUNISM/SOCIALISM
The idea in Karl Marx's Communism is for EVERYBODY, through the central authority, to decide what is best use for our resources, regardless of whatever innovative/passionate ideas individuals have. And the enterprise we decide on, everybody through the central authority decide working conditions and we all will be paid equally.
Under communism, enterprise is built for employment/comfort of the people not for profit. There are no poor people in Karl Marx's Communism.

Profit drives people crazy. Capitalism is why we're going to the moon with tax payers money amounting billions of dollars when there are poor people all over. "Just because you can doesn't mean you should"

This one just go write thesis because of small question.

Mrfeel:
How about the environmental pollution it will cause in Lagos , is lagos not too small and crowded for such a big refinery?

I read:
Oil refineries emit large amounts of air pollutants such as sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, and particulate matter. These pollutants can cause respiratory problems, including asthma, and increase the risk of heart disease and lung cancer etc i think lagos is too small and crowded for such a big refinery

Main reason Oil refineries shouldn't be built near major populated centers even the state of Louisiana doesn't do it.

BabaAduras:


Modern refineries are not major pollutants. I work and live in Corpus Christ, Tx, USA. There are about 5 major oil related industries in the city.

Wasn't there a major fire recently at the Valero's refinery in that city? Texas and Louisiana are the most polluted states in the US closely follow by West Virginia and Oklahoma

If this refinery was built in far north Of Nigeria, it will not live long because the Hausa/Fulani mentality of na we get am would kill it. Lagos remains the best place for Dangote refinery.