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Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by ImperialYoruba: 7:28pm On Jun 09, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
You keep on mixing things up. The thread is on who are indigenous Lagosians, not that of Yorubaland.
Are you implying that there are no indigenous people of Ogun, Oyo, Ekiti, Kwara, Ondo and Osun states?

I have answered your question on indigeneous Lagosians many posts back. You are not satisfied with the answer because even though it is the reality, it does not line up with what you are looking for.

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Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by dododawa1: 8:07pm On Jun 09, 2023
LAGOSIANS are Oyo,Ondo, Benni,Osun,ogun and Eko people because their are DECENDANT of ODUDUWA.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by FreedomfromtheT: 7:15am On Jun 10, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


I have answered your question on indigeneous Lagosians many posts back. You are not satisfied with the answer because even though it is the reality, it does not line up with what you are looking for.
What is your socalled absurd 'reality?' - that all the Yorubas whose ancestors are from Ondo, Ogun, Osun, Ekiti, Oyo, Kwara and Kogi living in Lagos are Lagos indigenes?
What about the Yorubas from Benin Republic and Togo living in Lagos? Are they indigenous Lagosians too?
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by FreedomfromtheT: 7:19am On Jun 10, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


Why? Here in Yorubaland we are not burdened by religious difference.

Religious difference is headache for Ibo. You go ahead and resolve that issue on your own. We Yorubas have better things to do.
Perhaps you are a Yoruba Muslim using Takwiya like Kaduna's Elrufai to deceive Yoruba Christians.
Are you not subtly and gradually turning Lagos State into a Muslim dominated state?
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by FreedomfromtheT: 7:34am On Jun 10, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Agboles (compounds) are all over Lagos from Isheri to Eko isale to epe to Ikorodu.
Ok.
Are all the people whose anscesors are from Ekiti, Kwara, Ondo, Kogi, Oyo, Ogun and Osun states who are living in Lagos state 'agboles'?
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by FreedomfromtheT: 7:37am On Jun 10, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

So......?
You people carry religion for head more the Arabs and Israelites.
Will you Yoruba Muslims be comfortable with it if Christians are in the majority of political office holders in Lagos state?
Are you not using Takwiya to deceive Yoruba Christians while subtly and gradually turning Lagos State into a Muslim dominated state?
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by ImperialYoruba: 8:49pm On Jun 10, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
What is your socalled absurd 'reality?' - that all the Yorubas whose ancestors are from Ondo, Ogun, Osun, Ekiti, Oyo, Kwara and Kogi living in Lagos are Lagos indigenes?
What about the Yorubas from Benin Republic and Togo living in Lagos? Are they indigenous Lagosians too?

Its up to you how you take it.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by FreedomfromtheT: 9:02pm On Jun 10, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


Its up to you how you take it.
Please answer the question.
Who are the indigenes of Lagos?
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Christistruth03: 2:31am On Jun 11, 2023
Stoplying:

I do not recognize anything like "praise names", that is an invention of you yarri.ba fanatics who keep trying to distort history.
By the way "Ovbi" is the same as "Obi" as in "Obi of Onitcha", it doesn't mean "son", it is a kingship/dukedom title.

You guys are just crazy. Please take your meds.
Each year you act with even less sense.


Another one




Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by ImperialYoruba: 10:04am On Jun 11, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
Please answer the question.
Who are the indigenes of Lagos?

Any person that can verifiably tie his ancestral root to an Agbole in Lagos, that's an indigene of Lagos.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Stoplying: 10:21am On Jun 11, 2023
Christistruth03:



Another one
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
Tell me when you get some sense and stop saying rubbish.
Oduduwa is a fairytale and Ife is younger then Benin.
And your "praise name" story is complete nonsense and invented by you Yoruba propagandists.
The Oba of Benin's title is Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku akpolokpolo. That is it. Nobody migrated from Ife, Ife is a new settlement, newer than Abeokuta which was created around 1830. So people migrated into Ife, not the other way around.
Look, stop quoting me. You can't learn like the fanatic which you are. Go and discuss with your fellow fanatics in boko haram, leave sane people alone. I'll ignore you from now on.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Stoplying: 10:22am On Jun 11, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


Any person that can verifiably tie his ancestral root to an Agbole in Lagos, that's an indigene of Lagos.
And you made that law because you are Jesus Christ the saviour of mankind? Please stop saying rubbish.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Stoplying: 10:47am On Jun 11, 2023
I think everybody should start ignoring yoruba when it comes to history. They don't have a clue about history. They just repeat their ethnic propaganda and never deviate from it. No matter how many times you prove them wrong, they won't deviate from their disproven belief. They don't reason with logic and they don't care for facts, they only care to repeat their propaganda and drag you down into a debate which is not based on fact and logic, that is all they can do.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Stoplying: 10:54am On Jun 11, 2023
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Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by ImperialYoruba: 11:02am On Jun 11, 2023
Stoplying:

And you made that law because you are Jesus Christ the saviour of mankind? Please stop saying rubbish.

Agbole is not a law.

Is DNA a law? No.

Agbole is our dna. You cant legislate indigeneship in Lagos. If you dont like it follow Akiolu advise, the Lagoon is still there, jump in.

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Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Stoplying: 4:27pm On Jun 11, 2023
Anybody who disrespects the Oba of Lagos is definitely not and indigene of Lagos.
By saying "Akiolu" instead of "Oba Akiolu", you revealed yourself to not be an indigene of Lagos, contrary to your nonsensical "agbolo" claim.
ImperialYoruba:


Agbole is not a law.

Is DNA a law? No.

Agbole is our dna. You cant legislate indigeneship in Lagos. If you dont like it follow Akiolu advise, the Lagoon is still there, jump in.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by seeme2(f): 4:42pm On Jun 11, 2023
if you are omoluabi in conduct and in your worldview or if you speak the language and renounce that you have anything to do with the yeebows forever, then you can be lagosian.

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Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by T8ksy(m): 5:02pm On Jun 11, 2023
Stoplying:

And you made that law because you are Jesus Christ the saviour of mankind? Please stop saying rubbish.


@ bolded........you sure are an indomie kid.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Christistruth03: 5:24pm On Jun 11, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
You see yourself?
Nobody is driving Lagosians. It is some of you Eko wannabees whose parents are either from Ondo, Ogun, Osun, Ekiti, Oyo or Kwara that are threatening to drive away 'non indigines' even threatening the real Lagosians.
You are merely kicking against the pricks.

It is you trying to drive Yorubas from Lagos in Yorubaland who is actually kicking against the Pricks
Yorubaland has always been one Nation
It was colonisation that divided it
That is not the reality of Yorubas on ground or our History
For example the Owu Clan are in every single part of Yorubaland like the

Levites in the Bible

The Ilajes are in all Coastal areas of Yorubaland

Just think about it

It is the African equivalent of Chasing the Jews from Jerusalem
It was the Ife Princes who founded all the kingdoms of Yorubaland including Awori Lagos


On top of all that Lagos be!ongs in the SW

Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by tundearos: 5:46pm On Jun 11, 2023
Descendants of these founders are the owners of Lagos. You can see that every yoruba tribe from other states are represented. I hope this has answered your question.
*60 Lagos towns and their founders*
1.Isheri Olofin - Olofin Ogunfunminire and his retinue from Ife before moving on to Ebute Metta and Iddo
2.Iddo Island - Olofin Ogunfunminire (See above)
3.Lagos Island/Eko - Aromire, son of Ogunfunminire. Iduganran was the site of a pepper farm (Ereko or Oko).
4.Ikate/Elegushi - Elegushi Kusenla
5.Iru/Victoria island - Oniru Origefon traditionally part of the idejo land owning children of Ogunfunminire
6.Otto/Mainland - Pawu ogboja oloto
7.ijora/Orile iganmu - Kueji/Isikoko ojora
8.Ajiran - Ojomu Ejo/Mogisho, brother to Olofin Ogunfunminire
9.Ikoyi - Onikoyi Adeyemi/Efunluyi
10.Ebute Ileké/Lekki - Lootu son of Labolo, grandson of Oba Alara of Epe.
11.Ibeju - Agbeduwa
12.Ajah - Olumegbon/Ogunsemo/Ojupon
13.Otto Awori - Aregi Ope, Iworu Oloja and Odofin, all part of the original Awori stream from ife.
14.Ojo - Esugbemi/Erelu/Osu
15.Iba - Àyoká Oniba ekun
16.Mushin - Oduabore/Aileru
17.Isolo - Akinbaye/Alagbeji
18.Ejigbo - Fadu onimewon/Olojan
19.Ikotun - Ategbo olukotun
20.Egbe - Kudaki/Akeja
21.Oshodi/isolo - Olusi onigbesa/Agedegudu
22.Ijegun - Ajibade Agbojojoye
23.Igando - Eseba onimaba/oko osi/Eshidana
24.Eleko - Sobokunren
25.Akesan - Ominuye/Aina òdofin
26.Ogba (Ikeja) - Owoeni Asade/Madarikan
27.Ogudu - Amosu from ile ife
28.Ikeja - Amore/Ikudehinbu
29.Aguda/Surulere - Gboin /Odunburé
30.Itiré - Òtá Onitire
31.Ilasa - Àbere ijé
32.Onigbongbo - Ikunyasun Àwusefa
33.Irewe - Edinni/Ojube/Oluwen
34.Ikosi-Kosofe - Aina ejo from isheri
35.Idimu - Eletu Apataiko (Isa Aperindeja Olugoké)
36.Ilara-Epe - Tunse/Sabolujo/Alara Adejuwon
37.Ibonwon - Soginná from ijebu
38.Ketu (kosofe) - Balogun oyero from ketu-Ile
39.Ojokoro - Oniojugbelé Adeitan from ota
40.Ikaare - Ikeja Ajija
41.Orile Agege - Efunmikan
42.Obele odan (Surulere) - Alago asalu
43.Ikorodu - Oga from Epe Sagamu
44.Epe - Uraka from Ife joined by Isein & Modu of Omu. they settled under a Popoka tree, that site became Poka township. Alaro (a woman) later joined. Then Ramope, Ogunmude and Oloja Shagbafara joined from ijebu ode.
45.Odo Ayandelu - Ayandelu from ile ife
46.Agbowa - Olayeni Otutubiosun son of Owa Otutubiosun who was Awujale, and grandson of Lafogido of Ife.
47.Igbogbo - Oshinbokunren
48.Meiran - Oroja from ota
49.Imota - Ranodu from Ijebu
48.Owode Apa badagy - Oganogbodo-Akereyaso/Asese Alapa
50.Ajido - Aholu sagbe from Allada
51.Oworoshoki - Ajumogijo
52.Iworo/Imeke - Ajagunosin/Adejori isejoye
53.Badagy - Egun people from Popo, Allada, Wida and Weme who fled the wars of the Dahomey conquest of the coastal kingdoms of Allada and Igelefe (Ouidah) to come settle of Apa lands to their east.
54.Ejinrin - Loofi Ogunmude founded Ejinrin around 1619
55.Eputu Lekki - Ogunfayo
56.Orimedu Ibeju/Lekki - Ladejobi left Ife to Okegun then crossed the Lekki Lagoon.
57.Akodo - Oyemade Ogidigan
58.Offin - Liyangu of Ife.
59.Ibonwon - Soginna from Ijebu ode.
60.Ijede - Ajede

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Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by FreedomfromtheT: 7:33pm On Jun 11, 2023
Christistruth03:


It is you trying to drive Yorubas from Lagos in Yorubaland who is actually kicking against the Pricks
Yorubaland has always been one Nation
It was colonisation that divided it
That is not the reality of Yorubas on ground or our History
For example the Owu Clan are in every single part of Yorubaland like the

Levites in the Bible

The Ilajes are in all Coastal areas of Yorubaland

Just think about it

It is the African equivalent of Chasing the Jews from Jerusalem
It was the Ife Princes who founded all the kingdoms of Yorubaland including Awori Lagos


On top of all that Lagos be!ongs in the SW
Who are the indigenes of Lagos?
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by T8ksy(m): 8:21pm On Jun 11, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
Who are the indigenes of Lagos?


Simply put, in layman's language,
a bona-fide indigene is he/she who can point (with the RIGHT hand, of course), to his/her agbo-ile- ancestral quarter in lagos.

The first settlers in lagos state, as we know it now, all built living quarters for themselves and their families, wherever they settled. These earlier built living quarters which you guys refers to as "brown roof" , is the Agbole. Every Yoruba sons and daughter have an Agbo-ile.


The descendants of these "Agbo-iles" built by the first settlers, are the true indigenous people of lagos (as we know it, now).

BTW, am ijebu/Ogun state from Odogbolu LG area
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by FreedomfromtheT: 8:40pm On Jun 11, 2023
T8ksy:



Simply put, in layman's language,
a bona-fide indigene is he/she who can point (with the RIGHT hand, of course), to his/her agbo-ile- ancestral quarter in lagos.

The first settlers in lagos state, as we know it now, all built living quarters for themselves and their families, wherever they settled. These earlier built living quarters which you guys refers to as "brown roof" , is the Agbole. Every Yoruba sons and daughter have an Agbo-ile.


The descendants of these "Agbo-iles" built by the first settlers, are the true indigenous people of lagos (as we know it, now).

BTW, am ijebu/Ogun state from Odogbolu LG area
Then not all Yorubas are Lagos indigenes.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Christistruth03: 8:43pm On Jun 11, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
Who are the indigenes of Lagos?

The Yorubas and the Eguns of Badagry

Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by FreedomfromtheT: 9:10pm On Jun 11, 2023
Christistruth03:


The Yorubas and the Eguns of Badagry
Meaning that the Yorubas outside Lagos who later migrated into Lagos are not indigenes of Lagos.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by ImperialYoruba: 10:07pm On Jun 11, 2023
Stoplying:
Anybody who disrespects the Oba of Lagos is definitely not and indigene of Lagos.
By saying "Akiolu" instead of "Oba Akiolu", you revealed yourself to not be an indigene of Lagos, contrary to your nonsensical "agbolo" claim.

Oh, maybe Im part of his Council of Chiefs. Have you thought about that? grin
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by T8ksy(m): 10:25pm On Jun 11, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
Then not all Yorubas are Lagos indigenes.


Yep.............however, we are all Yorubas!

Ikeja, ikorodu, epe etc were founded by the ijebus.These places were at the time, yorubaland then it was western region , followed by Oyo state but after the formation of lagos state in 1976, they too, became Lagosians!

Moreover, these Ijebus that founded the aforementioned lands, built their houses where they settled and raised their families which later on becomes the agbo-ile of the founding fathers of these areas.

But then, we should also bear in mind that these founding fathers (of different parts of Lagos) came from different "Agbo-iles" in the hinterland of Ijebuland.

This is why, I, an ijebu man from Odogbolu, in ogun state can claim to be a "Lagosian".
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Stoplying: 1:25am On Jun 12, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


Oh, maybe Im part of his Council of Chiefs. Have you thought about that? grin
Or maybe you are a fanatical liar like most Yoruba. I'll go with the fanatical liar thing.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Stoplying: 1:28am On Jun 12, 2023
T8ksy:

This is why, I, an ijebu man from Odogbolu, in ogun state can claim to be a "Lagosian".[/i][/color]
No, you are not a Lagosian and your story is not only unsubstantiated, it is also stupid. But with you Yoruba, facts, logic, and making sense don't matter.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Stoplying: 1:40am On Jun 12, 2023
Lagos is being colonized by all these Yoruba. I urge every true Lagosian to speak up and defend his heritage against whomever, be it Yoruba who want to claim Lagos as a "war loot" or those calling Lagos a "no man's land".
I urge every resident of Lagos, regardless of ethnicity, to not let Yoruba intimidate them, Yoruba are not indigenous to Lagos, they have no moral right nor any moral superiority to you. Don't let these guys bully you, they are cowards.
Only listen to the true Lagosians who speak exclusively through the Oba of Lagos.
Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by Stoplying: 2:13am On Jun 12, 2023
Also, it seems yorubas will push Nigeria into a new civil war.

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