LordReed:


Do you think all combantants should be killed?

Steep:
Why not just live them alone why taking them as prisoners?

Steep:
It's the other way round, because morality is objective God works to bring people out of sin.
If morality is subjective then everyone is right and should stay the way they are.

that is because you don't know what objective morality or subjective morality is.

LordReed:


What do you mean leave them alone? Leave them to continue fighting?

LordReed:


Actually is you who doesn't know what you are talking about. Once you introduce any form exception whether its for era or society you have made it subjective. If it was objective as you say then there'd be nothing like oh it was that time, they couldn't do otherwise. Why couldn't the god tell them stop slavery now, the same god that told them don't eat shell fish but you want us to believe the god couldn't say STOP SLAVERY NOW.

Because morality is subjective we all should be in dialog to find out what is best for us individually and collectively, not imposing dumbarse nonsense from centuries ago in the name of religion or some god.

Steep:

You have just shot yourself on your foot! So in modern times prisoners could be taken but refuse to the fact that war captives were actually taken in ancient times?

LordReed:


Actually is you who doesn't know what you are talking about. Once you introduce any form exception whether its for era or society you have made it subjective. If it was objective as you say then there'd be nothing like oh it was that time, they couldn't do otherwise. Why couldn't the god tell them stop slavery now, the same god that told them don't eat shell fish but you want us to believe the god couldn't say STOP SLAVERY NOW.

Because morality is subjective we all should be in dialog to find out what is best for us individually and collectively, not imposing dumbarse nonsense from centuries ago in the name of religion or some god.

Steep:

This doesn't make sense! Exception does not imply subjectivity.

Steep:

You are not making any sense
This doesn't make sense! Exception does not imply subjectivity.

LordReed:


That's exactly what it means. It is you who can't glean sense.

Steep:

Yes God did! However, not directly.

Leviticus 19:34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.



Leviticus 25:42 For they are my servants, which I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: they shall not be sold as bondmen.

God told israel they should not deal on slave trade.
Remember both the stranger and the fellow Israelites should be treated the same.

Israelites bought slaves from slave traders to relieve the slaves.

If morality is subjective then everybody is right. You cannot tell anyone that he or she is wrong .
We can only dialogue is there is an objective standard.

budaatum:


Forgive me not saying greetings my Lord. You on my mind and in my heart always.

LordReed:


My dear buda just seeing you here is enough to gladden my heart for I know someone is about to receive some spit, mud and bath in the pool of Siloam. LoLz.

How have you been?

budaatum:


I been good. Sun's out so even better. You?

Morality is indeed subjective and everyone has the right to choose but if you want to live amongst people then you must acknowledge other people's right to choose too. May be for people like you who want to dictate your god and religious views to other people dialog would seem weird. What is there to dialog when you just tell people what is moral and if they don’t agree with you call them devils. LoLz.

Steep:

Yes God did! However, not directly.

God told israel they should not deal on slave trade.
Remember both the stranger and the fellow Israelites should be treated the same.

Israelites bought slaves from slave traders to relieve the slaves.

If morality is subjective then everybody is right. You cannot tell anyone that he or she is wrong .
We can only dialogue is there is an objective standard.

LordReed:


Are you turning to lies or are you just plain ignorant.

Leviticus 25:42
Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves.
Leviticus 25:44
“‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
Leviticus 25:46
You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life,

Very plainly it says it is the Israelites that are not to be sold as slaves while slaves from other nations are to be viewed as property FOR LIFE.


Morality is indeed subjective and everyone has the right to choose but if you want to live amongst people then you must acknowledge other people's right to choose too. May be for people like you who want to dictate your god and religious views to other people dialog would seem weird. What is there to dialog when you just tell people what is moral and if they don’t agree with you call them devils. LoLz.

Steep:
Israelities could buy slaves from outside Israel which was a form of God's judgment for their wicked ways.
Just as a judge can take a murderers life even though take one's life is objectively wrong.

Steep:
Israelities could buy slaves from outside Israel which was a form of God's judgment for their wicked ways.
Just as a judge can take a murderers life even though take one's life is objectively wrong.

KnownUnknown:


The notion that the god of the Hebrews was against slavery of scaring the Hebrews from slavery is a well worn lie. Apart from the fact that it is the same god “saving” them from the predicament he placed them in, the idea that this god is against slavery is ridiculous. The people who created him weren’t against slavery afterall.
After he saves them from Egypt this is his first instructions:
Passover Restrictions

43 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “These are the regulations for the Passover meal:

“No foreigner may eat it. 44 Any slave you have bought may eat it after you have circumcised him, 45 but a temporary resident or a hired worker may not eat it.

The dude is more concerned about the Passover mass murder meal than anything else. He is more concerned about the slave’s foreskin than his freedom or dignity.

LordReed:


Can you hear yourself? Now it is on to justifying slavery in the name of your god. Pathetic.

It still makes it INCREDIBLY SUBJECTIVE, you did nothing but make that abundantly clear.

Steep:

So, of a judge sentence a murderer to death it means murder is subjective?

Maynmann:

In some instances slavery is not objectively wrong right

LordReed:


No it means killing is subjective. Murder is a legal term to describe unsanctioned killing.

Steep:
is murder subjective?

LordReed:


Murder already means unsanctioned killing, you have already passed judegement to say it is wrong. It is like asking if wrong is wrong.

Steep:
Simple question, is murder objective or subjective?

LordReed:


Murder already means unsanctioned killing, you have already passed judegement to say it is wrong. It is like asking if wrong is wrong.

Steep:

So if a Judge Judge sentence a criminal to death it means committing murder is subjective?