Does this property have “free will”?

Steep:

"Murder" only exist for humans not God.

Just as stealing only exist when you are not the owner of a property.
You can't be accused of stealing your own property can you?

So as “Rape” too it only exist for humans not your god.

Using your logic
Can you be accused of raping your own property, can you?
Can you be accused of killing your own property, can you?
Can you be accused of doing evil to your own property, can you?

Is a child a property of his parents?


In the desperate attempt to defend your Israelite god, look at what you’ve become

Steep:
you are the disingenuous person.

a legal term by which standard, is it not people that determine what is legal or not? So it is still opinions at the end of the day, murder being just a legal issue is even worse which means it is just like not registering your vehicle particulars.

Read up on the etymology of murder and stop displaying arrogance in ignorance.

Look at this one, is registering your vehicle papers a moral issue? You are lost. LMAO!

There is no such thing as my morality, such only exist in atheism world view which you cannot live by anyway.

it's your morality because you are the one expressing it.

Maynmann:

So as “Rape” too it only exist for humans not your god.

Can you be accused of raping your own property, can you?
Is a child a property of his parents?

rape is a violation of human freewill, God cannot contradict himself.

You cannot be accused of raping your property but when it comes to life no human can own any human.
No parents don't own their children, parents are like stewards.

Steep:
rape is a violation of human freewill, God cannot contradict himself.

You cannot be accused of raping your property but when it comes to life no human can own any human.
No parents don't own their children, parents are like stewards.

Murder too is a violation of human freewill, why is your god contradicting it and killing babies?


Apart from Humans what else can we rape and not be accused of raping, steep.

No human can own any human, yet isrealites and their god were taking slaves and even having virgins for themselves, how come?

LordReed:


Read up on the etymology of murder and stop displaying arrogance in ignorance.

Look at this one, is registering your vehicle papers a moral issue? You are lost. LMAO!

Lol explain what is the difference between moral issue and non moral issue?

it's your morality because you are the one expressing it.

Projecting yourself.

Maynmann:

Murder too is a violation of human freewill, why is your god contradicting it and killing babies?

Do babies have freewill?

No human can own any human, yet isrealites and their god were taking slaves and even having virgins for themselves, how come?

when people sold themselves they can become property of other humans.

Steep:
Do babies have freewill?

when people sold themselves they can become property of other humans.

So babies are not born with freewill, at what age do they acquire it? And from where?
Your god can also rape babies too, since they don’t have freewill right?

So humans can truly own humans, and the owners can rape and kill them right and that’s objectively right since they are property?

Steep:
Lol explain what is the difference between moral issue and non moral issue?

Go find the meaning of moral.

Projecting yourself.

No you.

Steep:
Do babies have freewill?

when people sold themselves they can become property of other humans.

Steep:
rape is a violation of human freewill, God cannot contradict himself.

You cannot be accused of raping your property but when it comes to life no human can own any human.
No parents don't own their children, parents are like stewards.

Wow. Just wow.

LordReed:


Wow. Just wow.

Bro, i mean this is crazy.
Look at what a fellow human steep is saying because she wants to defend her israelite god.
It’s crazy

Maynmann:

So babies are not born with freewill, at what age do they acquire it? And from where?
Your god can also rape babies too, since they don’t have freewill right?

yes babies are born with free will but not active until till certain age.

So humans can truly own humans, and the owners can rape and kill them right and that’s objectively right since they are property?

humans cannot truly own any human, and you definitely can treat anyone the way you like because we are all properties of God.

Steep:
yes babies are born with free will but not active until till certain age.

humans cannot truly own any human, and you definitely can treat anyone the way you like because we are all properties of God.

Murder too is a violation of human freewill, why is your god contradicting it and killing babies?
Your god can murder and rape innocent babies as they are his property.

What do you mean “truly own”?
You said this “ You cannot be accused of raping your property but when it comes to life no human can own any human.”
You also said this “when people sold themselves they can become property of other humans”

Maynmann:

Murder too is a violation of human freewill, why is your god contradicting it and killing babies?
Your god can murder and rape innocent babies as they are his property.

that is not what murder is, people's life can be taken even against their will, If it is justifiable.
For you to say rape or murder is wrong there needs to be an objective standard?
You can only say rape is wrong because sex was created between two consenting adults who are married, anything outside of this is sin. What you are saying is that God can contradict himself which is not possible.
Another way to look at this is purpose or design.
Sex was design for adults withing a marriage relationship is a seal of love, anything outside of this is wrong, that is where rape falls into.

Life exist primarily for God, taking another person's life becomes wrong but God can take peoples life it is not wrong because they exist for him in the first place.

What do you mean “truly own”?
You said this “ You cannot be accused of raping your property but when it comes to life no human can own any human.”
You also said this “when people sold themselves they can become property of other humans”

yes people are not the true owner of anything in the real sense, people are like stewards, God is the true owner.
Just like a tenant can refer to his room as "my room" this does not mean he truly own the room.

Steep:
that is not what murder is, people's life can be taken even against their will, If it is justifiable.
For you to say rape or murder is wrong there needs to be an objective standard?
You can only say rape is wrong because sex was created between two consenting adults who are married, anything outside of this is sin. What you are saying is that God can contradict himself which is not possible.
Another way to look at this is purpose or design.
Sex was design for adults withing a marriage relationship is a seal of love, anything outside of this is wrong, that is where rape falls into.

Life exist primarily for God, taking another person's life becomes wrong but God can take peoples life it is not wrong because they exist for him in the first place.

yes people are not the true owner of anything in the real sense, people are like stewards, God is the true owner.
Just like a tenant can refer to his room as "my room" this does not mean he truly own the room.

What’s the justification of your god killing babies?
Do you think hitler can’t justify his killing of jews?
Murder was designed for who?
Your god can also rape babies because they exist for him in the first place.
Was onan married to Tamar?

If a tenant has paid his rent, that’s his room and he truly owns it until his rent expires.

Maynmann:



What’s the justification of your god killing babies?
Murder was designed for who?
Your god can also rape babies because they exist for him in the first place.

If a tenant has paid his rent, that’s his room and he truly owns it until his rent expires.

I asked you a question earlier on which you have not answered.
When a father removes his child from a toxic environment m, is it justified?
Rape is against God's design for sex.
Does rent means he can do whatever he likes with the house? No he can only do what the agreement says. A tenant does not truly own the place.

Maynmann:



What’s the justification of your god killing babies?
Do you think hitler can’t justify his killing of jews?
Murder was designed for who?
Your god can also rape babies because they exist for him in the first place.
Was onan married to Tamar?

If a tenant has paid his rent, that’s his room and he truly owns it until his rent expires.

Hitler can only justify his actions if there is no objective morality.

Steep:
Hitler can only justify his actions if there is no objective morality.

“people's life can be taken even against their will, If it is justifiable.”
Explain how lives can be taken if it is justifiable.

Steep:
I asked you a question earlier on which you have not answered.
When a father removes his child from a toxic environment m, is it justified?
Rape is against God's design for sex.
Does rent means he can do whatever he likes with the house? No he can only do what the agreement says. A tenant does not truly own the place.

I asked you a question much earlier.
Is murder of babies is not contrary to his nature as god of love, eros?

Was onan married to temar?

Even the landlord can’t do whatever he likes, a landlord does not truly owns his land

Maynmann:

“people's life can be taken even against their will, If it is justifiable.”
Explain how lives can be taken if it is justifiable.

if man murders another person his life can be taken whether he likes if or not.

Steep:
if man murders another person his life can be taken whether he likes if or not.

Why was david and Samuels life not taken?

It seems some people are more moral than your god.

Killing someone after they killed someone, what is the morality behind it?

Maynmann:

I asked you a question much earlier.
Is murder of babies is not contrary to his nature as god of love, eros?

Was onan married to temar?

Even the landlord can’t do whatever he likes, a landlord does not truly owns his land

God taking the life of a baby does not contradict God's nature because those took them to be in a better place.
God's type of love is not eros.
I don't understand your question concerning onan.
Yes even a landlord can bmdo whatever he likes because he is under the state.

Maynmann:


Why was david and Samuels life not taken?

It seems some people are more moral than your god.

Killing someone after they killed someone, what is the morality behind it?

in God's justice system there is room for mercy
David should have died but he cried to God for mercy
I don't understand your question concerning samuel?

Steep:
in God's justice system there is room for mercy
David should have died but he cried to God for mercy
I don't understand your question concerning samuel?

Didn’t samuel murder a king?
Why was david spared then if your loving god has no room for mercy?

Steep:

God taking the life of a baby does not contradict God's nature because those took them to be in a better place.
God's type of love is not eros.
I don't understand your question concerning onan.
Yes even a landlord can bmdo whatever he likes because he is under the state.

Why did god create them in the first place if he will take them to be in a better place?
Is he not Omniscience?

Eros doesn’t murder children unlike yahweh.
You said sex is between married couples, anything outside is wrong, did onan marry temar, what did your god do when he slept with her?

So can the state do whatever they like?

Maynmann:

Bro, i mean this is crazy.
Look at what a fellow human steep is saying because she wants to defend her israelite god.
It’s crazy

Truly bonkers.