ogunijebu18:

It was never part of Benin.

ogunijebu18:

If it was they wouldn’t be Yorubas and speak Yoruba but Edo. It was never Benin.

ogunijebu18:

The British colonized Benin city so are their indigenous now British. That’s how dumb you sound

ogunijebu18:

I’m not a fanatic. YOU ARE. Even the British called the Lagos people Yoruba. You’re just making things up. You won’t say it offline I bet. We don’t speak Edo in Lagos

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All the earliest maps of the region show Lagos as being part of Benin kingdom.
well the true indigenous people of Lagos are not Yoruba, I'm glad we agree on that. As for speculations about language, I think they are best left as speculation, Lagos was submerged with foreign and local slaves when the British took it away from Benin and when you submerge a place with foreigners, the language tends to change a lot.

Your lack of knowledge about history is amazing, I bet you don't know nor understand that Benin city and Benin kingdom are two different things. Do you understand that England and London are two different things ?
Lagos was a part of Benin kingdom as witnessed right in the 1400's, it was only separated from Benin kingdom after 1860 when the British took it away and flooded it with foreign and local slaves.

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I know the British are like God to you yoruba, but to me they are mere human beings. I have shown you proof that Lagos was a part of Benin kingdom. End of story.
By the way, your gods the British referred to the monarchy of Lagos as "house of Ado".

ogunijebu18:

The true lagosian are Yoruba. Not Benin. Benin are indigenous to Benin city not Lagos. My ijebu people were there before those people. You say the British took it from them like it was ever theirs in the first place. Benin was never an empire just arrogant idiots online spreading false history. The British empire was a real empire that’s why we’re speaking English right now. Benin are nothing. What is the meaning of Benin? No lagosian claims they’re from Benin. Some claim root to fishermen in modern Ogun and some say they fled from republic of Benin. No one says there from Benin (Edo)

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Wow, it seems you are a kid.
Ask yourself this question: the map which I provided, was it made by some idiots online ?
Ogun ?🤣 It seems you don't understand the concept of time, Ogun state was created during postcolonial Nigeria. So nobody migrated from Ogun state.
It seems you still have problems understanding that Benin city is to Benin kingdom what London is to the UK.

By the way, Benin Republic was named such around 1970, so nobody migrated from there neither, guess where Benin Republic got its name from ?
Yeap Benin kingdom !

You know nothing about the topic, and don't accept facts and logic, instead you keep pouring your emotions and your uneducated beliefs.

This is just an other case of an arrogant ignoramus who thought he was very knowledgeable and mistook his beliefs for knowledge.

ogunijebu18:

Yes that’s why I wrote MODERN Ogun state if you could read.

ogunijebu18:

Before that it was ijebu awori egun who are the Lagos people.

ogunijebu18:

If it was part of Benin kingdom then why do they have their own king?

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Look, I'm more educated and smarter than you. Right now I'm giving you lessons for free, the least you could do is be polite.
Saying modern Ogun makes it even worse, you are only showing that you know nothing of what you talk about.
once again you just write out your unsubstantiated beliefs and confuse that with actual knowledge.

Well a real kingdom has 1 king and many dukes, you see, one king can't be everywhere at once, he resides in the capital of the country and his dukes represent his authority in the dukedoms.
You really don't know much, the Eleko was the representative of the Oba's authority in Lagos.

ogunijebu18:

The oba of Lagos is a king not a duke. You’ve been exposed. And he traces origin to awori tribe. Edo are not Lagos

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Eyewitness writen precolonial text stating clearly that Lagos belongs to Benin:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5806879x.r=Y%C3%A9bou?rk=21459;2

Precolonial map of the region showing that Lagos (in its currents form) and its environs were part of Benin (see below)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2


Conclusion: Lagos and its environs were part of Benin.

I am not interested in debating things which have already been proven. Also I am not interested in talking to people whom have been harrassing me. (I also want to add that I am actually the only person whom has commented here who actually speaks french and that I am the person who posted the french caption and the book from which it is to nairaland. Some delusional people who don't speak a word of frecnh were trying to "debate" me on the translation of the text several months ago. Fools can only fool other fools.)

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1) Even the Oba of Lagos (previously known as the Eleko) agrees with what I said.
2) you missed this:

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It seems you were born yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o
Now, you will be ignored forever.
Learn more and don't mention me anymore.

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It is getting tiring to debunk the Ife genesis fairytale. In the past ten years, I must have debunked it 500 times, it seems there is always one Yoruba whom is ignorant enough to just come and repeat the unsubstantiated claim.
Look, there is no proof that any Oba of Benin was ever buried in Ife. Also stop guessing my ethnicity (I don't need to claim any ethnicity, all I need is to prove what I say) and stop confusing your belief with knowledge. It is strange how you have made several unsubstantiated claims, even disproven ones, you've been called out on them, yet you just keep making more unsubstantiated claims.
The only place outside of Benin city in which the Oba of Benin is recorded to have been buried is Kalabar.

I will give you one thing, I'm definitely a Yoruba.
I really don't care about "Yoruba history", but given that Yoruba lie all the time and confuse fairytales with history, I had to do my own research if only to just stop the constant lies. Besides Lagos history is not yoruba history.

scholes0:
@Bigfrancis
Evidence 1.
Both Benin and Yoruba history corroborate the facts that every third Benin Oba used to be taken to Ife, some say just the head, others say the whole body- but both agree with the burial at Ife.
According to Egharevba the popular Benin historian, the practice seem to have been stopped before the British expedition and subsequent conquest of Benin. But it DID happen.



In Fact the Oba of Benin was said to recognize the Ooni's spiritual sovereignty, even though that later became nominal.

Evidence 2
Their Divinition comes from Ife



Evidence 3.
Their crafts come from Ife

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B:



Evidence 4.
Their History and Mythology has always acknowledged Ife and Other Yoruba obas



Edos are always VERY QUICK to attack Yoruba version of history, BUT they have NEVER ever for once told us where the Edos come from.
Christians say God created the world in 6 days and "rested" on the 7th, Yorubas say Oduduwa created the world starting from Ife, while Obatala created man... Edos never tell us anything. All they do is attack Yoruba history, while actually telling us nothing about their own Origins. Okay if Oduduwa was not a Yoruba character like the Benin's claim, then where did the Benin's themselves or the Ogisos, who like Oduduwa are also Semi-mythical characters come from?
It is easy for people to laugh at one explanation to a theory as "not making common sense" while providing no alternative explanation. That is what scientologists do when they attack religion.

This Esogban has a penchant for stirring the fish stew and causing trouble, him, together with the likes of the Alake of Egba who went about the unsolicited business of ranking Obas. If He wants to totally de-link the Benin/Edo history from Yorubas, Abeg let him just say that and let us all rest. Haba. This is just revisionist history at its best.

ogunijebu18:
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Do you understand the word "unsubstantiated" ?
It seems you don't, you go from one unsubstantiated claim to sn other... Now you are just quoting an other nairzlznder whom is quoting an unidentified piece of paper, where is proof for the claims ?
And proof doesn't mean you get yet another unsubstantiated claim.
Oh I see, the paper is the work of egherevba, whom I suppose I should believe without any proof, I'm getting tired of this nonsense.
"Egherevba said it" is not considered a proof !

NzogbuNzogbu:
Oga you for kukuma do gov and draft your own policy

Lagosians gave you a lesson before, I advise you stop forcing yourself

muhammaduyusufu:
Confused man. He forgot he also campaigned on sending other people back to their state of origin.

muhammaduyusufu:

From Alberta, Canada and North Dakota, USA.