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Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:57pm On Oct 12, 2011
Evidence For Noah's Ark (Part 2)

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Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:59pm On Oct 12, 2011
Evidence For Noah's Ark (Part 3)

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Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by Nobody: 6:03pm On Oct 12, 2011
debosky:

I know you would be unable to resist - so if I point out your shocking inability to see the flaws in your methodologies, I must be an atheist evolutionist?

What else do we expect from someone who regards any challenge of their viewpoint as evidence of being an evolutionist? Admit you are completely incapable of accepting any criticism without deeming it as evolutionist.


Kindly show me the verse in the bible that tells gives you the 'biblical knowledge' that the population of the earth can be calculated from 2.5 kids per family.

I am growing quite tired of this repeated idiocy - get it into your thick skull - that is not MY assumption in any sense. I simply brought up the 200,000 years to show that YOUR analysis was baseless as it did not even know what assumptions evolutionists made in the first place.

My comment was this:

How did you make the jump from there to claiming it is MY assumption? Did I write the theory of evolution that regards modern humans as emerging 200,000 years ago?

[b]Because that isn't science - that is working to the answer - a completely ridiculous and pointless exercise in subjectivity. You might enjoy making up figures to suit your purposes, I don't.

For the last time, I have made NO assumptions here - YOU are the one making assumptions about a fictional 2.5 kids per family. Your ridiculous repetition of this nonsense is really grating on my nerves now.[/b]That will make a difference if the so called Christian scientists didn’t make baseless assumptions just to suit their arguments. Your foolish belief that merely starting with the bible gives you a guarantee of getting the right conclusion is what I am attacking.

Those that claimed the earth had to be flat also claimed to be using ‘biblical knowledge’ yet they were hopelessly wrong.


First rule of Nairaland. Do not argue with Olaadegbu.
Second Rule of Nairaland. Do not argue with Olaadegbu.
Third Rule of Nairaland. DO NOT  ARGUE WITH OLAADEGBU!!!!
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:09pm On Oct 12, 2011
The Parallel between the Ark and Jesus (Part 2).

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Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by debosky(m): 6:30pm On Oct 12, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

You that has the thin skull should tell us where the assumption that was reported in a science journal in the videolink below that they discovered a human tooth that was dated to be 1 million years old.  Another science textbook used in schools also said that human beings started 500,000 years ago and you have admitted that you brought up the case of 200,000 years, as long as folks continue to reject or suppress the truth in unrighteousness they will continue to be confused with their assumptions.  The videoclip I posted earlier has even conceded 25,000 years for this ridiculous assumption but this will produce about 144 billion people which does not tally with what we have on the ground.

Who cares about the assumptions in a video link YOU posted? Are you going senile or what? Did I post the link? I gave you a specific piece of information about when humans are believed (by evolutionists) to be in their current state, and you go off producing daft video links again?

It seems you are completely lacking in any cognitive ability - all you can do is copy and paste and call everyone evolutionists.  undecided

Even if the video says it was 500,000 years, is that the same as 1 million years? No one here is confused but  you - yet again a shocking inability to answer a question when asked, instead you go off on wild tangents.

OLAADEGBU:

If the foundation is destroyed what can the righteous do?  The problem in Christianity today is that Christians are joining forces with the enemy of the gospel to destroy its foundation which is the solid ground.  The two major worldviews, biblical creation and the theory of evolution are the two authorities seeking for our attention, and unfortunately many Christians are taking their authority from faulty man's ideologies over the tried and tested word of God.

Who told you those are the two seeking for attention? What of those who don't agree with your OWN INTERPRETATION of creation? The problem with you is that of the hammer - everything looks like a nail to it.
I'm not surprised that all you can comprehend is creationist or evolutionist - you are so sold out to ridiculous name calling that everyone HAS to fall into YOUR ridiculous categories.

OLAADEGBU:

Do you also want to know the verse where the Professor got his population formula from?  God has given us the seed it is up to us to cultivate the ground and expect a good harvest.  God will not do the cultivating for you.  We have the seed, that is, the 4 couples that survived the catastrophic deluge, we also have the present world population which is about 7 billion people today, why don't you do your own cultivation? in this case, calculation to discover whether the biblical creation worldview hits the bull's eye or not?  You don't have to use the Professor's formula if you think its not right.

Again are you lacking in comprehension skills? How is all this gibberish related to the simple question I asked? [b]Where is the verse that gives you the assumption of 2.5 kids per family? [/b]If there is no such verse, kindly say so. Who asked you about formulae? Are you unable to read and respond to a specific question?

I didn't ask you a  question about cultivating anything - give me the biblical basis for 2.5 kids per family is all I ask - in the common parlance, put up or shut up. Just don't reply - you don't need to construct meaningless posts.

Instead of answering the question asked, you go around talking about irrelevant issues - I hope you didn't adopt this approach in school.  undecided
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:59pm On Oct 12, 2011
The Parallel between the Ark and Jesus (Part 3).

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Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:26pm On Oct 12, 2011
This is for those who believe in the biblical knowledge recorded by the Almighty God and not for those whose hearts have become petrified due to unbelief. Let us see what the Bible has to say about the world population growth and how we can account for what we have today.

"And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth" (Genesis 9:1).

God actually fulfilled His promise to Noah and his sons by multiplying them to fill the earth. Biblical knowledge tells us that Noah's catastrophic global Flood happened about 4,500 years ago. And if we are to account for what we have today which is between 6 to 7 billion people beginning with only 8 people 4,500 years ago we will understand that God had really blessed them according to His promise.

Someone used this example, let's say your new born child gets £1.00 on his first birthday and you promise to double this money every year he celebrates his birthday until he is 21 years old, you will see how such money would be multiplied. When the child is 2 years old he gets £2.00, when he is 3 he gets £4.00, when he is 4 he gets £8.00, when he is 5 he gets £16.00 and on like that until he is 21 years of age, how much do you think he will get at 21? His gift will be over £1,000,000! shocked

This is how population growth is being calculated. When you have enough generations the number of people being added with each generation would be of astronomical proportions. When you do the calculations you will discover that it is not difficult to account for 6-7 billion people starting from just 8 people after the Flood.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:43pm On Oct 12, 2011
Amujale:

@OLAADEBU In my opinion the problem has little to do with the STORY of creation according to the bible, but rather the source from where it came. The entire synopsis of the biblical as well as the quranic narative of Noah was stripped from other mythologies; especially the ancient Egyptian narative. In short, what we have is a case of complete plagiasrism of other philosophies re-packaged.

If you doubt anything that i've written, you only need check the TRUTH out for yourself.

Read the article in the link below and compare the stories before you come to the conclusion of which story was plagiarised.

http://www.icr.org/article/noah-flood-gilgamesh/
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:45am On Oct 13, 2011
This is for the Skeptics of the Global Flood and Noah's Ark 

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But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. -- Matthew 24:37-39

Jesus here referred to Noah as an actual historical person, and the Flood as a bona fide historical event.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by debosky(m): 10:04am On Oct 13, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

This is for those who believe in the biblical knowledge recorded by the Almighty God and not for those whose hearts have become petrified due to unbelief. Let us see what the Bible has to say about the world population growth and how we can account for what we have today.

I believe in the bible so I guess this is also for me. grin

While I accept the bible talks about Noah and his sons replenishing the earth, you cannot in any sense use a 'FIXED assumption of 2.5 kids for every family'.

It simply does not make any sense - leaving aside historical times that we don't have detailed records for, we can easily tell that there are numerous variations in the population growth rates as influenced by food availability, diseases and life expectancy. It is quite disingenuous to discard all of that readily available information on VARIABLE birth rates, and use a FIXED assumption and claim this 'proves' the bible.

It is an exercise in futility and cannot be seriously regarded by anyone with even a basic understanding of population demographics.

To be clear - I am not saying that the biblical information is wrong - this is not about that in the least. It is a critique of clearly flawed methods being employed in an attempt to 'prove' the bible.

I respect endeavours that use generally tried and tested methodology (such as the zircon experiments which provides information that contradicts theories of an old earth). However I cannot and will not accept flawed science simply because it supports my position.

A parallel would be wanting church coffers to grow so they can preach the Word, and in so doing accepting questionable donations. The end goal might be noble, but if the process is corrupted, it ends up frustrating the end goal and not supporting it.

When so called 'Christian scientists' (and their supporters) equate their methodologies with the bible to avoid critique, I will call them out on it. The bible is not supposed to be used as a cover for dodgy science.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:24am On Oct 13, 2011
The Heart of Stone

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New Testament believers should click on the hyperlink above and be challenged that we don't allow this condition (stony heart) to happen to us!
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:52am On Oct 13, 2011
This was a conversation I had with someone on this thread using another ID when discussing about this same topic some years ago.  Has things changed since then?  Your guess is as good as mine.

OLAADEGBU:

@ow11 & wirinet ,

I am not surprised that both of you cannot see the evidence because of your evolutionary spectacles that you use to see.  I did not only post the link but posted the television programme that spelt it out line by line, precept upon precept, and here you are asking the same questions that has been tackled in the programme.  A man cannot think crooked and walk straight and in the words of my Lord and Master who said:

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You can only say what is in your darkened mind as a result of the damage that the evolutionary lie has done to your psyche.  The bottom line is that we have the same evidence but we view it with different spectacles.  If you have not already made up your mind about your interpretation of the facts through fallible human ideologies you would have understood and comprehended what the study in the link below is all about.

Before you knock other scientists' research work or calculations endeavour to read, watch and understand it first and then if you are not convinced proceed to disprove it by making your own research to refute it.  Anyone can easily destroy what has taken years to build, as this is the pastime work of Satan your master who specialises in the work of destruction rather than creation.  Listen to this word of wisdom from the mouth of Jesus Christ your creator.

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The subject is about Mathematics being the language of science and science verifies the bible's account in the Bible, on the other hand evolution is false science and is designed by the enemy of your soul to deceive you into thinking that there does not have to be a Creator God before the universe and life to exist, and if there is no law giver there will be no law to keep and if there is no law to keep there would be no God to be accountable to, only for you to face a fearful and terrifying judgment day at the end.  Do you now see why God said that a fool says in his heart, there is no God?
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by debosky(m): 11:04am On Oct 13, 2011
Nothing has changed - you are clearly unable to see the wood for the trees.

- As usual, you are calling people evolutionists SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH YOU.

- As usual, you are calling any critique of your OPINION as being from Satan.

No one is challenging mathematics as a scientific methodology here - what is being challenged is flawed usage of ridiculous assumptions in an attempt to 'prove' the bible.

When a value changes over time (such as birthrates), it is best mathematically represented as a rate of change or a function incorporating the various factors involved

Population growth = f (birthrate, deathrate, life expectancy, diseases, famines, wars, ecological conditions)

To discard all those factors and use an imaginary '2.5 kids per family' as an ASSUMPTION is not good science by any means. It is another case of working to the answer.

What is most insidious about the tricks employed by the likes of Ola is an attempt to paint ANYONE who criticizes their methodologies as employing the tactics of Satan. We have seen this type of blatant manipulation before by cult leaders who try to use controlling tactics on their flock by equating their words/actions with the Word/actions of God.

There is nothing worse than accusing others of manipulation and then doing exactly the same thing yourself.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:39am On Oct 13, 2011
This just goes on to prove what Jesus Christ said as ever true.

"Give not that which is holy to the dogs, neither cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." -- Matthew 7:6
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by macayub(m): 12:11pm On Oct 13, 2011
Although I might not agree with Olaadegbu on all his assertions, I concur to the fact that he has provide more evidence to his claim than anybody on this thread. If I am to be a judge in a law court, he will be vindicated. He was just being attacked unnecessarily.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by Amujale(m): 5:00pm On Oct 13, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

Read the article in the link below and compare the stories before you come to the conclusion of which story was plagiarised.

http://www.icr.org/article/noah-flood-gilgamesh/


In the Sumerian tale, which pre-dates the biblical version by thousands of years,  The author of the article in your link lays down his thesis as if the sumerian history and biblical history existed in the same era. Infact there is NOT a shed of proof to stand by the claims that the bible makes about any community, character or ruling house.

Yet you also have the Egyptians, Greeks, Armenians, Indians and they all pre-date the publishing of the bible.

When was the bible written? Who wrote it? And for what purpose?

OLAADEGBU:
At least they took the Genesis Flood as a fact which prompted them to search for it where the Bible said was.

Who are you refering to as they? How can "they" or anyone for that matter find something that never really existed in the first place? The only people that regard it with any credibility are members of the christian cult. So your reference to "they" is quite patronising to say the least.

Its remarkable that the U.S.A, UK and the Vatican dont seem to give much of a fuss; doesnt that reveal itself to you. Meanwhile i'm not sharing my opinion just because i feel the need to but to caress your senses so you can see the biblical and quranic stories for what they really are; BOGUS.

While we discussing stories, let me take this opportunity to tell a great one; the difference being this really happened.

The Missionaries - god Against The Indians by Norman Lewis

This is an example of the sometimes twisted ways of humankind.

There was an Indian community in the Amazon region called Panare that missionaries tried allsorts of ways to convert them to christianity but failed. The reason was simple, the philosophy behind christianity depends on  some basic pricinples that which implemented could stupify their audience:

* Sin
* Guilt
* Punishment
* Redemption/Salvation

But they had a problem, Panare linguistics doesnt have words that are equivalent to the above because they were content the way they lived; all the stories of that the bible could offer were received as mere entertainment. So, the missionaries forged a plan; they would introduce these principles into the community themselves. The deduction was that  before the Indians could be made to accept repentance and salvation one had to give them something to feel guilty about.

In excess of a thousand coupies of the new testament was printed to say that the Panare killed Jesus, so now anywhere where the Romans were supposed to have featured, the Panare's were substituted.

It seems it was a common practice among the Christian missionaries to accuse Indians of killing the ficticious Jesus.

Dont believe me? Again you can verify for yourselves

http://www.amazon.ca/Missionaries-God-Against-Indians/dp/0070376131


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Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:19pm On Oct 13, 2011
@Amujale,

You may like to continue on another thread that I have opened for your concern about the unreached tribal people so that we don't derail this thread on the link below.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-781160.0.html
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:06pm On Oct 13, 2011
macayub:

Although I might not agree with Olaadegbu on all his assertions, I concur to the fact that he has provide more evidence to his claim than anybody on this thread. If I am to be a judge in a law court, he will be vindicated. He was just being attacked unnecessarily.

May the Lord bless you and keep you and give you more grace to overcome the opposition to the gospel truth in Jesus' name.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by debosky(m): 8:32pm On Oct 13, 2011
Since we are now talking about evidence, for those interested in population science, I invite you to read more about population growth analysis

http://serc.carleton.edu/quantskills/methods/quantlit/popgrowth.html

To summarise, you can ONLY come to the conclusions that Ola's 'scientists' did by assuming a CONSTANT rate of population growth. Without any information on population growth rates beyond a couple of centuries, it is quite laughable to be presented with ridiculous information attempting to 'confirm' the bible with what is best described as working to the answer.

This ridiculously simplistic analysis ignores the following widely recognised influencing factors on population

- total fertility rate
- age structure of the population
- death rate

Now ask yourself this simple question - have fertility rates and death rates been constant for thousands of years? Yet the 'scientist' wants us to believe that we can use the equation over 4,500 years with a constant rate of growth.

In its simplest form, the rate of natural increase of a population is governed by:

Birth rate (b) − death rate (d) = rate of natural increase (r).

Pray tell - where did the 'scientist' in the video demonstrate ANY application of this basic equation?

For 'real life' evidence that this constant rate of increase is simply utter nonsense, see the graph of change in Sri Lanka's population growth below:

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We are supposed to accept a constant rate extrapolate back 4,500 years - even between now and the 1920s we see such a large change, yet we are supposed to assume a constant rate for 4500 years?. If an 'evolutionist' did the same thing, you would have seen copy and paste epistles from Ola grin
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by zataxs: 9:25pm On Oct 13, 2011
Hahahahaaa hahahaha doubt is being turned into a vice while it is a virtue. We must doubt tradition, culture and old laws. Doubt is the bedrock of science, it is the reason why people dedicate their lives coming with better ways of doing and discovering things. That's what has brought us this far and will continue to do so.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by MisterG: 4:40am On Oct 17, 2011
For the skeptics, you could be wrong. Due to the fact, there are over 250 flood stories throughout the world, not only in Mesopotamia or Egypt, but there are similars stories among different African tribes such as the Masai, the tribes in New Guinea, fijians, people in Vanuatu, and the peoples of polynesia as well,  Australian Aborigines, and the most numerous is among the natives in the Americas. This can't be mere coincidence. Since all these cultures share this story, something must of happen in human history, since all these cultures throughout the world have a flood stories in their myths,

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

[b]Masai (East Africa): worldwide flood stories website above^^
[table][table]Tumbainot, a righteous man, had a wife named Naipande and three sons, Oshomo, Bartimaro, and Barmao. When his brother Lengerni died, Tumbainot, according to custom, married the widow Nahaba-logunja, who bore him three more sons, but they argued about her refusal to give him a drink of milk in the evening, and she set up her own homestead. The world was heavily populated in those days, but the people were sinful and not mindful of God. However, they refrained from murder, until at last a man named Nambija hit another named Suage on the head. At this, God resolved to destroy mankind, except Tumbainot found grace in His eyes. God commanded Tumbainot to build an ark of wood and enter it with his two wives, six sons and their wives, and some of animals of every sort. When they were all aboard and provisioned, God caused a great long rain which caused a flood, and all other men and beasts drowned. The ark drifted for a long time, and provisions began to run low. The rain finally stopped, and Tumbainot let loose a dove to ascertain the state of the flood. The dove returned tired, so Tumbainot knew it had found no place to rest. Several days later, he loosed a vulture, but first he attached an arrow to one of its tail feathers so that, if the bird landed, the arrow would hook on something and be lost. The vulture returned that evening without the arrow, so Tumbainot reasoned that it must have landed on carrion, and that the flood was receding. When the water ran away, the ark grounded on the steppe, and its occupants disembarked. Tumbainot saw four rainbows, one in each quarter of the sky, signifying that God's wrath was over[/b][/table]
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by MisterG: 4:56am On Oct 17, 2011
A author interpretation of the ancient Egypt myth and connection to the Genesis account, and the origin of Humanity. This is not my opinion but the opinion or analysis of the author, which i find quite interesting. Eventhough, i don't believe it entirely.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vv8H-SuFNA
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:21pm On Oct 17, 2011
Read about Flood Legends here and you will come to the conclusion that points to the only Truth of the story of the Flood of Noah.

There are hundreds of stories and legends about a worldwide flood. Why do diverse cultures share a strikingly similar story?

Did you know that stories about a worldwide flood are found in historic records all over the world? According to Dr. Duane Gish in his popular book Dinosaurs by Design, there are more than 270 such stories, most of which share a common theme and similar characters.  So many flood stories with such similarities surely come from the Flood of Noah’s day.

A Historical Event
   
The worldwide catastrophic Flood, recorded in the book of Genesis, was a real event that affected real people.  In fact, those people carried the knowledge of this event with them when they spread to the ends of the earth.

The Bible declares that the earth-covering cataclysm of Noah’s day is an obvious fact of history.  People "willingly are ignorant [that] . . .  the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (2 Peter 3:5–6, KJV).  This Flood left many evidences, from the fact that over 70% of the rocks on continents were laid down by water and contain fossils, to the widespread flood legends.  Both of these evidences provide compelling support for this historical event.

If only eight people—Noah’s family—survived the Flood, we would expect there to be historical evidence of a worldwide flood.  If you think about it, the evidence would be historical records in the nations of the world, and this is what we have, as the chart [below] indicates.  Stories of the Flood—distorted though they may be—exist in practically all nations, from ancient Babylon onward.  This evidence must not be lightly dismissed.  If there never was a worldwide Flood, then why are there so many stories about it?

Global flood traditions

Dr. Duane Gish, in Dinosaurs by Design, says there are more than 270 stories from different cultures around the world about a devastating flood. This chart shows the similarities that several myths have with the Genesis account of Noah’s Flood. Although there are varying degrees of accuracy, these legends and stories all contain similarities to aspects of the same historical event—Noah’s Flood.


http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/flood-legends

Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:15am On Oct 18, 2011
Startling evidence that Noah's Flood really happened.

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Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by debosky(m): 1:59pm On Oct 18, 2011
Again, I am very much against working to the answer type investigations. I am not in any way denying the occurrence of the Flood, but some of the methods here are quite disappointing.

Every continent in the world has stories about multiple gods - does that now confirm 'The Truth' that there are multiple gods? undecided

To use the same 'line' by the AiG folk, If there never were multiple gods, then why are there so many stories about it? Is that something anyone here would deem acceptable?

You begin to see the ridiculous nature of some of these 'investigations' when worldly stories are being used as 'evidence'.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by MisterG: 2:35pm On Oct 18, 2011
debosky:

Again, I am very much against working to the answer type investigations. I am not in any way denying the occurrence of the Flood, but some of the methods here are quite disappointing.

Every continent in the world has stories about multiple gods - does that now confirm 'The Truth' that there are multiple gods? undecided

To use the same 'line' by the AiG folk, If there never were multiple gods, then why are there so many stories about it? Is that something anyone here would deem acceptable?

You begin to see the ridiculous nature of some of these 'investigations' when worldly stories are being used as 'evidence'.

These stories among other stories found in many myths throughout the world, basically points out that all mankind has a common origin. Therefore, the whole idea that man evolved from lower form animals become obviously flawed.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by debosky(m): 3:03pm On Oct 18, 2011
Mister G:

These stories among other stories found in many myths throughout the world, basically points out that all mankind has a common origin. Therefore, the whole idea that man evolved from lower form animals become obviously flawed.

Even evolutionists believe that all mankind have a common origin so how does this help? undecided

My point is, don't pick and choose evidence to suit your purposes - that is dishonest science. If evolutionists are accused of doing so, the 'creationists' (those who call themselves that) should take the higher ground and not engage in such dishonest selectivity.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:38pm On Oct 18, 2011
Here is Dr. Andrew C. McIntosh speaking on: Genesis, Babel and the Chinese Language.

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He is of the highest teaching/research rank in the United Kingdom university hierarchy in Combustion Theory at the Leeds University. His Ph.D was in aerodynamics and a number of his students have gone on to work for Rolls Royce, designing aircraft engines.
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:19pm On Oct 19, 2011
The Chinese Language and the Creative Hands of God

Who among all these [God's creatures] does not know That the HAND OF THE LORD has done this, In whose HAND is the life of every living thing, And the breath of all mankind? Job 12:9,10, NKJV

Few realize that the early Chinese (c. 2200 B.C.) worshiped a Creator-God, the Heavenly Ruler. Fewer still have appreciated the "second Genesis" which their ingenious ancient character writing contains. 1 The 4,000-year-old Imperial Sacrifice ceremony observed annually by China's reigning emperors attests to their original post-deluge patriarchal connections. 2 A word-of-mouth knowledge of God (even the Trinity), the Creation, Garden of Eden, and Fall of man, could have come to them from Adam via Lamech, Noah's father; and Noah's son, Shem, the probable Chinese progenitor.

A study of the oldest known Chinese scripts, the bronzeware and oracle bone writing, supports the concept of their detailed knowledge of the antediluvian world. These early written forms are more pictographic (picture writing) than today's surviving "shorthand" transcriptions. The most primitive and basic characters, called "radicals," serve as the "ABC's" of the writing. When radicals are combined, they form one type of a more complex character, called the "ideograph," which relates a story or concept.

http://www.bibleetnombres.online.fr/genesis.pdf
Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:55am On Oct 22, 2011
Here is another research that further verifies the biblical account in the book of Genesis, especially when it comes to population growth.  This Medical Doctor has been able to calculate  how we arrived at a population of about 7 billion people on world today.

Population Studies Indicate A Young Planet Earth 

According to the Star Tribune Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, July 24, 1999, "Last weekend the world's population topped 6 billion"
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In 1985 there were 5 billion people in the world.
In the year 1800 there were only 1 billion people in the whole world.
In the year 3 BC a Roman Census at the time of the Birth of Jesus Christ indicated that the population of the world was 250 million.
All text books teach that, and the world's population is growing rapidly.

Illustration from Merrill Earth Science 1993, p.503
(Check the link below for the graph or chart of the population growth of modern humans)

Year World Population
   
2000 6 Billion
1985 5 Billion
1800 1 Billion
3BC 250 Million

The Bible teaches that:

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[li]6,000 years ago God created the Universe.[/li]
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[li]4,400 years ago there was a Flood which destroyed everyone except for 8 people. [/li]
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[li]The current population curve started 4,400 years ago. [/li]
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Current growth curve based on Biblical time scales

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[li]If you start with 8 people 4,400 years ago, after Noah's Flood, a population of 6 Billion people over 4,400 years is perfectly reasonable. [/li]
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http://www.finalfrontier.org.uk/index.php?main=3&sub=1&page=22

Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:14am On Oct 23, 2011
Noah's Ark found in Turkey: group of 15 claims 99.9 percent accuracy!

"There have been rumors going around in the past few days that satellite and aerial images of this structure had been taken before but exploration had been forbidden by the Turkish government due to the mountain being a holy site. The truth behind these rumors can only be validated through an extensive study into past incidents of this nature but it would be pointless as now a group of fifteen archeologists from China and Turkey have expressed there almost hundred percent certainty about Noah s Ark found in Turkey.

Noah s Ark found in Turkey came as a report two days ago when these archeologists took a sample of wood from the structure they found at a height of 4000 meters on the famous Mount Arafat in Turkey. There are two factors that pin the hopes of these archeologists on the authenticity of this find.

The first of them is that it was found at a height that has not been inhabited by any settler civilization of the region. All research shows that the maximum height of the settlements in the surrounding regions does NOT exceed the 3,500 meter mark. This being the case it would be obvious that the wooden structure wasn't built there, rather it was transported there somehow and landed at that height which completely coincides with the biblical story of Noah and the biblical floods.

Noah was supposed to have rested the ark on the tallest height of the region which explains why the ark is sitting 4,000 meters above sea-level.
The second factor that has led the group to believe that the Noah s Ark found in Turkey is an authentic incident is that carbon dating done on the wooden samples dates the structure back to 4,800 years ago, again a date which almost perfectly coincides with the Bible's account of the floods and the time that they took place.

The Noah's Ark found in Turkey has been discovered to have different compartments which these archeologists believe were made to accommodate the different species that Noah had saved from the floods.
Now the group is looking to get an order from UNESCO to grant it a World Heritage Site status which will protect it till the group starts a proper excavation project on it"


http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/5700168-noah-s-ark-found-in-turkey-group-of-15-claims-999-percent-accuracy

Re: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:55pm On Oct 23, 2011
It is not surprising that Evolutionists and gap theorists are not shouting Eureka! because this discovery renders all their presuppositions useless.

Genesis Flood
[img width=500 height=500]http://www.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/media/cartoons/after-eden/20111014.gif[/img]

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