PoliteActivist:



Sooo, how come sales people end up talking people into buying something they initially said they'd absolutely not buy minutes before? They do their homework! They prepare their game well. The customer has no chance!

"Sure, take care" and that's the end of it? Na, not good.
Women that change their minds constantly and are not really sure what they want. A woman may say no to you this minute and regret it the next - and you already out of communication? Not good

Best thing anyway is, never approach girls for date directly. Otherwise you're already a loser. If you must, first build yourself up so much in her imagination and read her so well, she can't possibly say no!
But most people are lazy, no preparation at all, no imagination, just shot in the dark and hope for a miracle!

otipoju:
True words.

When I was younger the mindset my bros taught me to approach women with,is the expectation that she would say either yes or no...she can't do more than that.

If she says yes. Honor her, set up next steps then leave.

If she says no, thank her for her patience in hearing you out and wish her best of luck , then leave.


Then in the era of no phones, we would assign a young boy to escort her home during the day to know where she lives...then we show up together when it's a little dark.

Non digital communication in dating was sweet and creative. Short notes sent by intermediaries, coded whistles, pre arranged spots and times, red herrings and going into the compound by the back door instead of the front where everyone is gathered in the evening.


Now all your have is dumb ugly girls dancing naked on social media with thirsty boys watching. They don't know how to "scope", "psyche" or "cajole" as we used to call it then.

Jakumo:


Not all women can be bought with money, as this story you've kindly posted about one of Elon Musk's failed seduction attempts aboard a private jet clearly illustrates.

The EU and USA count among their billionaires many who are tired of renting call girls, yet are so inept at the nuances of sparking female attraction that such men are often LONELY even as they relax amidst the opulent trappings of their eye-watering wealth.

The mother of Elon Musk's child has the appearance of a prepubescent child herself and is no beauty queen by any yardstick, suggesting that Elon Musk, who has described himself as being autistic in some regards, never developed the social skills needed to attract and marry a quality woman of great beauty and intellect commensurate with Mr. Musk's towering social status as one of our planet's richest men.

Another famous billionaire whose bride is no beauty queen is Jeff Beezos of Amazon who recently became engaged to a middle-aged, plastic surgery-disfigured puffy-lipped woman that would never turn any heads at the beach, yet is now positioned to secure a multi-billion dollar divorce settlement just as soon as she can sink in her claws deeply enough. That very odd selection of a plain old pedestrian-looking woman with fish lips and hard plastic fake tits for a bride, suggests that Jeff Beezos, like Elon Musk, is also severely lacking in the seduction skills that are essential to any man seeking a high-quality woman for sex or marriage.

PoliteActivist:


In real life some of us got women chasing US all because we got "game"!
No mind the OP, the only thing that gives real confidence (which is so attractive to women) is KNOWING the woman thinks you got what she wants! (you don't have to have it. She only has to THINK you do! )
"Sure, take care." is after the fact, doesn't give anybody confidence!

siofra:


And who do you deem a high quality woman?
What do high quality women possess?

Jakumo:


For most men including yours truly, a woman's desirability begins but does not end with her physical fitness and aesthetically obvious beauty. That beauty must NOT be artificially enhanced like the rock-hard surgically fabricated facsimile of natural curvature displayed by that aging mother-of-ten Ms. Kim Lardassian of the plastic udders fame. Under this purely visual category of feminine beauty, overweight women, and most older women aged above 30 do not even register on the radar of my visual perception. By this, I mean that if she ain't smoking hot, I don't see her at all, even at close range. She simply becomes invisible to me.

Age is absolutely critical as well in that MOST women who have passed the age of 30 require cosmetic surgery on their face and body in order to try and approximate the youthful freshness of a younger nubile woman whose face and body have not yet begun to succumb to the effects of gravity, the sun and their own predominant state of mind, which tends to etch the lines of their most frequent negative mood such as anger or disdain "permanently" on their weathered faces.

A second even more important consequence of aging among women is that their blood testosterone levels RISE dramatically with age, particularly when they are above 30 years old, thus causing them to develop a host of undesirably MALE characteristics including aggression, jealousy of younger women, cunning, arrogance, deviousness, vindictiveness, greed, selfishness, and a complete loss of human empathy.

Finally, while the youthful feminine allure of women in their early twenties is utterly irresistible to most red-blooded males purely at face value, that initial magnetism can begin to wane and fade if the woman is found to be vain, materialistic, overly demanding, promiscuous, or even so lacking in formal education as to require a dumbed-down vocabulary in order to hold up their end of a casual conversation. While the beauty queen of every man's dream need not also be a Nobel Prize-winning academic to retain her man's attraction, she should at the very least have completed a level of formal academic achievement equivalent to high school or preferably university.

Listed above are the most important and obvious factors that influence a typical man's evaluation of what constitutes a "high-quality woman". Anyone who observes that these considerations are superficial, subjective, and time-dependent would be absolutely correct in that assessment, yet this is the harsh reality of the male psyche that has evolved over thousands of years, with no obvious indications of significant change evident on the near or distant horizon even today in the good year 2023.

Jakumo:


For most men including yours truly, a woman's desirability begins but does not end with her physical fitness and aesthetically obvious beauty. That beauty must NOT be artificially enhanced like the rock-hard surgically fabricated facsimile of natural curvature displayed by that aging mother-of-ten Ms. Kim Lardassian of the plastic udders fame. Under this purely visual category of feminine beauty, overweight women, and most older women aged above 30 do not even register on the radar of my visual perception. By this, I mean that if she ain't smoking hot, I don't see her at all, even at close range. She simply becomes invisible to me.

Age is absolutely critical as well in that MOST women who have passed the age of 30 require cosmetic surgery on their face and body in order to try and approximate the youthful freshness of a younger nubile woman whose face and body have not yet begun to succumb to the effects of gravity, the sun and their own predominant state of mind, which tends to etch the lines of their most frequent negative mood such as anger or disdain "permanently" on their weathered faces.

A second even more important consequence of aging among women is that their blood testosterone levels RISE dramatically with age, particularly when they are above 30 years old, thus causing them to develop a host of undesirably MALE characteristics including aggression, jealousy of younger women, cunning, arrogance, deviousness, vindictiveness, greed, selfishness, and a complete loss of human empathy.

Finally, while the youthful feminine allure of women in their early twenties is utterly irresistible to most red-blooded males purely at face value, that initial magnetism can begin to wane and fade if the woman is found to be vain, materialistic, overly demanding, promiscuous, or even so lacking in formal education as to require a dumbed-down vocabulary in order to hold up their end of a casual conversation. While the beauty queen of every man's dream need not also be a Nobel Prize-winning academic to retain her man's attraction, she should at the very least have completed a level of formal academic achievement equivalent to high school or preferably university.

Listed above are the most important and obvious factors that influence a typical man's evaluation of what constitutes a "high-quality woman". Anyone who observes that these considerations are superficial, subjective, and time-dependent would be absolutely correct in that assessment, yet this is the harsh reality of the male psyche that has evolved over thousands of years, with no obvious indications of significant change evident on the near or distant horizon even today in the good year 2023.

siofra:


I don't know, but when you talk about 20-25 year old girls, you remind me of Humbert Humbert in Lolita. And I don't like to think of that novel, it's very uncomfortable.

I don't meet your criteria for a high quality woman. I'm in my early thirties (I'm literally called an evening newspaper here every other day. How did you miss that?)

And I'm very materialistic too.

Honestly, I think you might have some unresolved trauma. Did you not get to bang enough young women in your 20s? And so you're trying to catch up? You need to be sincere with yourself.

siofra:


I don't know, but when you talk about 20-25 year old girls, you remind me of Humbert Humbert in Lolita. And I don't like to think of that novel, it's very uncomfortable.

I don't meet your criteria for a high quality woman. I'm in my early thirties (I'm literally called an evening newspaper here every other day. How did you miss that?)

And I'm very materialistic too.

Honestly, I think you might have some unresolved trauma. Did you not get to bang enough young women in your 20s? And so you're trying to catch up? You need to be sincere with yourself.

Jakumo:


You are absolutely correct. Due to sheer ignorance about fundamental female psychology and a major confidence deficit that beset me in my younger years, I did NOT get to bang enough women when I was in my twenties so there is a strong element of making up for lost time in my lifelong taste when it comes to women. That said, there is NO man alive of ANY age that can resist the powerful innate sexual allure of a woman in her biological prime, which is GENERALLY between the ages of 20 to 25. Some men may lie to the contrary, but they fool nobody with such protestations.

Going by your profile picture, Siofra, you happen to be one of the rare exceptions to the general rule governing female aging, most likely by virtue of your lifetime dedication to staying fit with a good diet and regular vigorous exercise. You are, once again, a notable and visually stunning exception to the rule though I hasten to add that your elevated testosterone levels due to age MIGHT mean you already wear the trousers in your current romantic relationships. God bless Nigeria.

siofra:


Thanks.

I appreciate your honesty. Not many men will come clean and state that they prefer 20-25 year olds.

What do you mean by "you already wear the trousers in your current romantic relationships" You think I'm masculine? How do you define a masculine woman?

siofra:


Thanks.

I appreciate your honesty. Not many men will come clean and state that they prefer 20-25 year olds.

What do you mean by "you already wear the trousers in your current romantic relationships" You think I'm masculine? How do you define a masculine woman?

So u r masculine...siofra..why did u shave Yor mustache again??

PoliteActivist:



Sooo, how come sales people end up talking people into buying something they initially said they'd absolutely not buy minutes before? They do their homework! They prepare their game well. The customer has no chance!

"Sure, take care" and that's the end of it? Na, not good.
Women that change their minds constantly and are not really sure what they want. A woman may say no to you this minute and regret it the next - and you already out of communication? Not good

Best thing anyway is, never approach girls for date directly. Otherwise you're already a loser. If you must, first build yourself up so much in her imagination and read her so well, she can't possibly say no!
But most people are lazy, no preparation at all, no imagination, just shot in the dark and hope for a miracle!

siofra:

Thanks.

I appreciate your honesty. Not many men will come clean and state that they prefer 20-25 year olds.

What do you mean by "you already wear the trousers in your current romantic relationships" You think I'm masculine? How do you define a masculine woman?

Pukkalolo:
Years ago, I was watching Asa being interviewed on a show where she was a guest. They asked what are the top qualities she love in a man. Among other qualities, she said she loves a man who is CONFIDENT.

Well....

This is a cliche`. In hundreds of sources, they describe "confidence" has the most attractive trait a woman love in men.

I got curious...

So in particular a private group online, I put out the question, "What does it mean for a man to be confident with women"

In no time, answers flood in.

I got answers like:

"A confident man always go for what he wants..."

"A confident man always says exactly what on his mind and he isn't scared of expressing how he feels"

"A confident man always take action and has the firm believe that he will get what he looks out for."

"A confident man always bla bla bla....."

They are all correct, but I think they miss the point of what true confidence is.

Here's is what makes you confident:

A truly confident man is a man who is "comfortable" with rejection.

Nothing more, nothing less.

He's comfortable with rejection because he's comfortable with people not liking him.

The average man isn't comfortable with rejection, so when he get rejected, he verbally attacks the woman.

A lady recently showed me her chat with a Man she rejected recently.

She: "Sorry .... I'm not interested."

Man: "mtcheew...what is this mumu feeling like self. With your flat ass....bitch."


Lolz

In some occasions, a lady might have some interest in you but will still reject you because rejecting you is a safer option for her at that moment. That's the reason why--- how you respond to a rejection matters more than the rejection itself. Responding in an upset manner like that will be a confirmation to her that you have low self-esteem. She will try her best to avoid you for fear of harassment or fear of being physically attacked.

Again,

When a woman outrightly reject you, do not attempt to try to change her mind.
Unfortunately, that’s exactly what most guys tries to do...

The average man isn't comfortable with rejection, so when he get rejected, he tries to convince her to change her mind.

For example:

She: "Sorry .... I'm not interested."

Man: "Why now? You know I truly care about you... Please accept me."

The more you try to change her mind, the more she’s going to disrespect you. When she perceive that you are not comfortable with getting rejected, she view that as weakness and even try to exploit you and toy with your emotions.

Ok enough talk....

We are just starting...

When you're comfortable with rejection, how do you respond

You say, "Sure, take care."

No comeback response. No argument. No debate. No trying to convince her to change her mind.

Just say, "Sure, take care." And then stop interacting with her immediately.

Remember, chances are that she’s might be expecting you to do one of these things:

- Verbally convincing her to change her mind

- Giving her cash gifts so she can change her mind

- Getting upset at her and calling her negative names.

Doing any of those things would boost her ego and make her feel she's on top of the world...

But when you respond with just, "Sure. Take care," And immediately end the conversation with her.....Her ego will drastically reduce.

She might be inspired to re-initiate a contact with you.

Some women have rejected me initially but later contacted me again because they were caught off guard by how "comfortable" I was towards the rejection.

Getting upset or trying to convince her never work; it only make your value go down in her eyes.

But being comfortable with it and saying “Sure, take care,” makes your value goes up.

Stay blessed.