sunboy:


Okay, I called out many of your wrong assumptions up there.

For the gidigbo, yes it is for pleasure. And in special times like they portrayed in that movies, warriors could be ask to fight to death and the winner gets a reward. Also, in war times… digigbo is a war skill.. just like Judo and jui jistu are war skills they are also games.

Karate is a war skill and also a game. Being a competition don’t mean it’s exclusively competitive.

In the movie, they even portrayed the use of jazz to support his skills. The warriors had stuff tied to their arms to give them extra strength.

Lets me mash up our own story.

Codes151:
i no be ipob nor igbo... india and SA are getting better, we are dwelling in sentiments


that move isnt 10/10...

no movie in the world has gathered 10/10...
send the movie to IMDB and u will see that its 2 or 3 /10

Sweetvie:
The movie seems interesting

Akasammyoka:
I must get you on this, CU's am hitting my translator to be sure you are honest this time.

MT:


So you agreed that you misrepresented the bolded in your previous post.

Cite and example where warriors were asked to fight to death in Yoruba history. I will be willing to learn from you.

Why would a movie like Jagunjagun not show the art of war, especially how Ogundiji consults his gods? It's a critical part. Did Ogunjimi lead a war as a general in the movie?

Painting Ogundiji as a bad person after being shown to rescue a king at the beginning didn't add up. They should have dug deep to come up with a fantastic reason .

"Atamo atamo" ni in Yoruba Language.

sunboy:


Again, you are picking one phrase out of many sentences, very funny.

Gidigbo is a sport, a war skill, and also entertainment. So is Judo, Karate, and jui jistu.

When you have time, here is a free read for you about Gidigbo, the Yoruba martial art.

This article speaks to its entertaining, cultural, and even its arena display, and its war usage.

https://www.blacfoundation.org/pdf/GIDIGBO.pdf

Black man, know your history ✌🏾

iamdapsyj:



If it's not rated highly, why is the movie been streamed top 10 in over 17 countries in just 48 hours. Anybody that says the movie is 10/10 is just an expression that the movie is good not necessarily perfect. I personally will rate it 7.5-8/10 and that is based on what I look for in a movie

We too dey rate all these foreign movies that have their flaws as well. If I should begin to highlight the many flaws in SISU, John Wick and so others, you will cringe.

But an average Nigerian will be jumping upandan to praise those foreign movies like they are perfect. well, the movie is 3,4 not 7

We still haven't declut our colonial mentality in Africa just yet. Foreigners still holding many Africans mentally even when they no more occupy our land

Nauttyprof:


Did you watch the movie to the end? I mean from the beginning to the end without skipping any part of the scenes?

MT:


How do I respond to a lost soul who called his people "monkey" like a racist Caucasian over movie rating?

Must I have the same experience as you?

MT:


Stop sounding this way to remain correct.

You have conceded that Yoruba does not use "gidigbo" to fight to death, rather it is for pleasure.

Thats the crux of our discourse. Case closed

Codes151:
i did.. there is room for improvement, its not bad.. but definitely not a 10 like he said

MT:


No one says Yorubas never use swords. A typical Yoruba warriors would consult ifa, Ogun and other gods before proceeding on a war.

How many wars did Ogunjimi fight? What establishes him as Jagunjagun?

I repeat the movie is inspired by David and Saul story plus Spartacus movie. Go and watch "Anikulapo" movie. You will understand the depth compared to this hyped movie.

Yorubas just don't go to war fighting like Spartacus, fighting with swords and shields, without consulting their gods..

jeff1607:




The stubborn warrior chiefs then do so, hence the reason some of them were banished

Acidosis:


They tried to copy Woman King ke?

Woman King is a horrible movie (though this might not be the case for those unfamiliar with the actual history of Dahomey). Besides, the movie reeks of lame scenes. There is nothing to compare.

Acidosis:


They tried to copy Woman King ke?

Woman King is a horrible movie (though this might not be the case for those unfamiliar with the actual history of Dahomey). Besides, the movie reeks of lame scenes. There is nothing to compare.

HydraFeeds:
you’re wrong again ,the Yorubas used to have arena to fight ,where do you think the name ękę comes from ?

MT:


Not that the so called stubborn warrior chiefs would not consult the gods. They would consult the gods and the gods would tell them not to go but they would insist on going.

jeff1607:



It is not every war the gods are consulted especially when it has been foretold and people or the king is against it or when they are invaded

MT:
Wacky storyline. Nice visual effect.

Yorubas don't fight like Spartacus in war or in a fight challenge, the ending is so predictable and the story line is so tacky - A bad replica of "the woman king" movie.

Yorubas don't fight wars without consulting ifa, Ogun and other gods for directions. How many wars did Ogunjimi fight in the movie that made him Jagunjagun? War is taken seriously in Yorubaland and always well thought through and prepared for. The movie never reflects this.

The movie presents an invasion under the guise of a war

Femi Adebayo, dressing like a roman king, which I found so alien - should not have acted that part - Chatta or Lalude could have been spot on.

Wars were fought like Romans army with swords, without any consultation with the gods. Yorubas used charms, and other weapons, to fight in their wars but due consultations would be made to the gods.

Yorubas also don't have arenas, like the Romans, where they fight to death. Only Romans do. Local wrestling in Yoruba is for entertainment purposes.

All in all, for me:

Story Line - 20%

Visual Effect - 65%

PR (Hyping of the movie) - 100%

Please note, it is my experience, which I am entitled to. You are free to rate it as 100%.

Anikulapo movie still remains distant number 1 it's easier to criticize, go and produce your own movie now, if it's that easy.

alpontif:
My problem with the Jagun Jagun movie was the very bad storyline...and some parts of the SET, for example, why are you showing houses that has IRON roofing sheets in a movie set in the 18th Century?

Why can you not create SPEARs that appear straight?

Why are you Slaughtering a foe with the blunt other side of a sabre that has one Cutting side?

And by the way, the town populace is far too small. The armies too small. The calvary too small.

For example, in history, the rearguard of Alaafin orompotoniyun is said to consist of at least 1000 infantry and 1000 calvary.

The only warrior whosee acting is believable is the second in command gbogunmi

MT:
Wacky storyline. Nice visual effect.

Yorubas don't fight like Spartacus in war or in a fight challenge, the ending is so predictable and the story line is so tacky - A bad replica of "the woman king" movie.

Yorubas don't fight wars without consulting ifa, Ogun and other gods for directions. How many wars did Ogunjimi fight in the movie that made him Jagunjagun? War is taken seriously in Yorubaland and always well thought through and prepared for. The movie never reflects this.

The movie presents an invasion under the guise of a war

Femi Adebayo, dressing like a roman king, which I found so alien - should not have acted that part - Chatta or Lalude could have been spot on.

Wars were fought like Romans army with swords, without any consultation with the gods. Yorubas used charms, and other weapons, to fight in their wars but due consultations would be made to the gods.

Yorubas also don't have arenas, like the Romans, where they fight to death. Only Romans do. Local wrestling in Yoruba is for entertainment purposes.

All in all, for me:

Story Line - 20%

Visual Effect - 65%

PR (Hyping of the movie) - 100%

Please note, it is my experience, which I am entitled to. You are free to rate it as 100%.

Anikulapo movie still remains distant number 1

AdoOloro:

Bùròdá, go and make your own movie and let's see!!

MT:


Stop sounding this way to remain correct.

You have conceded that Yoruba does not use "gidigbo" to fight to death, rather it is for pleasure.

Thats the crux of our discourse. Case closed

impeccablephili:
You need to listen and learn from people that know more than you. The Goodluck Jonathan administration made a great mistake by removing history from our school curriculum. There was a fight to death in history of Yoruba during the pre-colonisation era, Just like the movie Jagunjagun. The then Alaafin Oyo(Sango that they call god of thunder) envied one of the warriors (Gbonka) . And asked him to fight till death with a powerful war general, Timi Agbale( that used bow and arrow ) thinking Timi will defeat Gbonka easily. But Gbonka defeated and beheaded Timi who happened to be his friend. That made Gbonka challenged the then Alaafin to duel (fight to death) . look for history textbooks read about the history of various African tribes. You will see that Woman king movie was a misinformation. That is why I always laugh when I see some children calling Yoruba tribe cowards on nairaland.

MT:


Your response gives me good impression about you. You want to "criticise" someone's experience on a thread.

I made my point without referencing your post, but you quoted my post while you were responding. What happens to respecting other people's perspective . You cant force your experience on me.
Professor

Consider this as my last post to you.

MT:


Baba Historian, the story you cited was a battle not a wrestling - Alaafin Sango asked Gbonka to match on Timi for refusing to pay him his due. Gbonka and Timi used to be friends. When Gbonka realised that his own army, as instructed by the Allafiin was planning to get him killed, he suggested a 1 to 1 fight between him and Timi, while their respective armies watched them fight. It was purely a decision made by Gbonka.

Alaafin Sango NEVER asked them to fight to death. Stop upending history!

Also, Gbonka never challenged the Alaafin to a fight as you incorrectly stated - He asked Alaafin to either die or abdicate the throne.

@impeccablephili you claimed to know so much, yet you know nothing about your very own history.

Read the account here: http://www.adabanijaglobal.com.ng/the-history-of-ede-town-series-2/

What we are saying here is the Yoruba do not have an arcade where people fight to death. It is not a routine for us like the Romans whose culture is to fight to death.

Believe what you like, I am done having a rebuttal on this.

Nauttyprof:


So, it is a 2/10, right?

This just expose your sentiments. A 2/10 movie would definitely be one where you can't watch from beginning to the end. Just keep deceiving yourself.

Like I said, your tribe has not done anything near this in the past decade or in recent times.