Fearyourcreator:

So people don't die abroad?

ibechris:




Are u read the piece up there?

Moh99:

But Dangote's brother was treated in USA and he didn't survive. Many of African leaders if not all, are doing well (looted money) before they carry their children/investment to abroad.

AutoConsultng:

I doubt you even read the whole piece. The lady wrote an unbiased and balanced piece up there. Learn or perish.

IbeOkehie:


You are the one who mentioned pension with the implication that migration to the USA might result in old age poverty. The FACT is that many employers in Nigeria, public & private, are not paying the pensions they promised. I know MANY such people living in Nigeria who can't get their pensions. If the MINIMUM PUBLIC PENSION in the USA is $600, can you tell me how many full time workers earn $200 per month in Nigeria? Wanna guess?

On the other hand, I know MANY people who migrated to the USA at over 50 years of age who have made a good life for themselves. It's nice to wallow in misplaced pride, I get it, but the FACTS are that the USA is far and away better than Nigeria in almost every way except the availability of cheap sex.

Good Luck to Nigerians

ogbonti:


the joke is on you — please watch what this man who lives in Canada 🇨🇦 somewhere you are dreaming to japa to- hear what he says about the abroad you’ve are masturbating
about everyday enjoy 😊

chiself:


Those who can afford to japa with family in Nigeria do not need pension in Nigeria. They have already made it. My point is why sell all and then rely on your state pension to start rebuilding in Nigeria? Another point is the state is not going to give you excessive amounts but if you are sending this to relative in Nigeria then either someone is feeding or you are still working at your old age.

ednut1:
But why have you not returned to Nigeria People just want to live in a sane society where things work, you have a foreign passport and are obviously enjoying. But you want to tell people not to flee. 🤣🤣 you are a joker

Mindlog:
Another dissertation on Japa....if you are skilled and your skill sets are in high demand in a foreign country that better appreciates it, do well and relocate.

Whenever I read about racism in such dissertation, I instantly assume the writer means tribal bigotry that catwalks boldly in Nigeria and in many African countries is a non issue.

A stable life with a sense of order,is what many desire, it is not just about the money

I will prefer to save £300 monthly after all deductions and expenditures than saving N500K monthly in Nigeria (which less than 0.5% of Nigerians can in Nigeria)

MimiSheWrote:
Hello Everyone, first of all I apologize in advance for the long note and also about my English, not actually my first language.

My name is Mimi, I was born in Nigeria... But cos of the nature of my dad's profession i have spent around 75% of my life in different countries outside Nigeria... Mostly in EU.

Well enough said about myself, cos this topic is not about me but about Nigerians... Our general mentality and perception of abroad.

Guys listen up... All that glitters is not really gold. Out there is not entirely what people think it is. And you might think just because I have spent so much time outside Nigeria i do not understand the struggle in Nigeria and therefore not qualified to tell you all this "nonsense"..... I completely get it.. trust me.

But even a random 3 years old kid knows that the country is messed up and nothing to write home about, we all know about the Suffering, depression and "starvation level of poverty" in Nigeria yeah.... That's why everyone is desperatly looking for a way out, no doubt... but trust me, JAPA is not 'always' your ticket out of poverty... Well 'sometimes' it is... but most times it's just your direct ticket to being subjected to racism,more depression,more struggles,several mental disorder,homelessness, modern day slavery and the list goes on and on.

Trust me... when it comes to hustling field, success is much more louder than failure. cos our mind was designed to constantly search for hope. which means you would quickly hear about the lucky 3% that made it big through JAPA, but hardly hear about the remaining unlucky 97% that found themselves in worse possible condition after the same JAPA. There's no money tree out here... there's no diamond river out here...
Is there more opportunities? Well yes, But there are millions of people that already done and still doing whatever you intend to come do over here and yet they are still in the worse condition than you are in right now.

You would literally cry when you see what most of our African brothers and sisters go through around the world in the name of Japa. And as a Nigerian?? Trust me it gets worse.. and your chances gets even much smaller. Cos no one trust Nigerians anymore any where around the world and I believe we all know why.

Sorry but I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble, kill anyone's vibe or being a negative biitch! Naaaah I'm only trying to be realistic! I'm only trying to tell you something no travel agent would ever tell you and something people abroad hardly tell you, and even when they eventually do tell you...? You don't believe them.. instead you result to asking them questions like "why are they still there if it's that bad"? .....

Well.... You wanna know why most of them are still there? Let me tell you why... there is a psychological reason for that... First They are still in DENIAL. Imagine dreaming your entire life to travel abroad and finally have a good life, you probably invested almost everything or everything you have got to make it happen (your money, your time, your last hope)
But then you finally got there and then meet a reality that is entirely different from your life long dreams and perception of these faraway green lands?
I don't know if you know... but our brain is defensive in nature, it will automatically switch straight to denial mode... Leaving you with atleast enough 'hope and wait for a magic or should i say a miracle' (afterall this is abroad where magic happens?)
This is just one of the reasons why most of these people continue sticking around instead of returning home.

Another reason is that they are worried about what people back home would say or think... Because the people back home also got this general fvcked up mentality and very high expectation of people coming back from Japa (y'all need to stop it! Y'all need to get rid of that mentality, seriously ) cos like I said earlier... there is no bleeping money tree over there! I don't know where Nigerians got that idea from in the first place...
It needs to stop, yall driving the youth nuts with such mentality, it's doing more harm than good. That high expectation/ pressure back home is mostly the reason our people are more likely to result to crime out here (so just stop it! )

I have met alot of other African nationalities abroad... and amazingly they don't share the same mentality we have about Abroad. They treat abroad as just another hustling ground and not a direct ticket to success... Therefore they are more relaxed and less pressured than Nigerians out here.

Moving Abroad is not such a bad idea though, it worked and still works for few lucky ones (including my Family) it would be wrong and biased of me if I fail to mention that..
There are plenty of and more opportunities over out here not doubt...
But what I'm just saying is that... it's not always that easily reached.. as most people automatically believe.
Look... Somehow all these countries are intelligently designed In such a way that it take back almost entirely everything you make out here from you one way or the other... Through tax, through mind blowing bills or random expenses around every corner.

And at the end of the day you realize you are nothing but a modern day slave building someone's country for free... And without freedom.

Most people screaming Japa in Nigeria are far in better living condition and more stable mentally ,more happy than majority of people in the so called abroad without even knowing it. Sometimes Instead of gambling and betting your hard earned million of naira on Japa, it's more advisable to chill out... relax and invest that Millions in Nigeria. I'm just saying... You would probably end up living a life most people over there can only envy and dream of.

Thanks for reading my long note... I hope this helps someone in making a life decision out there. #ItsYourGurlMimi

Lannister360:


Guy see, life in Nigeria is hell, nothing works here including business, abroad isn't an automatic ticket to success but it's far better than Nigeria.

If Abroad is hot water,
Nigeria is the Fire

It's still better to feel the heat of a hot water than to feel the heat of fire.

If you invest your japa millions in Nigeria there is a very high possibility that it'll crumble.

At least in Europe you have a chance. JAPA IF YOU CAN GUYS, EUROPE IS STILL BETTER THAN NIGERIA

jesmond3945:
people die and so?

ayandee:
most people abroad don't give this kind of advice to their own siblings. You see them arranging all sorts of japa opportunities for them (study visa, visitor visa, sibling sponsorship for PR etc). But they will come online to discourage others. I am all for legal migration.

IbeOkehie:


You are the one who mentioned pension with the implication that migration to the USA might result in old age poverty. The FACT is that many employers in Nigeria, public & private, are not paying the pensions they promised. I know MANY such people living in Nigeria who can't get their pensions. If the MINIMUM PUBLIC PENSION in the USA is $600, can you tell me how many full time workers earn $200 per month in Nigeria? Wanna guess?

On the other hand, I know MANY people who migrated to the USA at over 50 years of age who have made a good life for themselves. It's nice to wallow in misplaced pride, I get it, but the FACTS are that the USA is far and away better than Nigeria in almost every way except the availability of cheap sex.

Good Luck to Nigerians

IbeOkehie:


The only advantage to living in Nigeria FOR MEN is the availability of cheap sex provided by impoverished and terrorized females. NOTHING ELSE. Which means there's nothing for a woman to gain from choosing Nigeria over migration to the Anglo-West.



You have no idea the of the WIDE DISPARITY in earnings potential between the Anglo-West and Nigeria, or maybe you're doing the usual Nigeria thing of sticking to stubborn argument out of pride.

Do you know how much it costs to provide childcare or daycare in Nigeria? Many old men and women here in the USA earn over $400 per week watching 3 or 4 little kids while their parents are at work. I've used such a person for my own kids. I myself used to babysit kids FOR FREE in my earlier days in America, I didn't even charge.

My mother just sent out $5K = ₦4.5 million to some relatives and friends in Nigeria. Just one person got ₦1 million. How many people in Nigeria have ever or will ever have ₦1 million in their back account? When I read Nigerians denigrating US & UK na laugh I go de laugh Actually I think the chasm is just beyond their ability digest without going insane with jealousy.

Don't blame the Nigerian diaspora, blame Buhari...you voted for him.

Good Luck to Nigerians!

phemmyfour:
Go to mile 12 and see them work "half has hard" and go home with peanuts

Go to establishment where they owe them salaries and other benefits even after working "half has hard"

You work "half has hard" for 6hrs but your travelling time without pay due to Lagos traffic is 8hrs.

Yet you come home, no light and you will still pay phcn for darkness at the end of the month

bittertongue:
Quick questions at op,are you currently working or doing business in Nigeria,what type of work and for how long have you been doing it,I need this question to take a life changing decisions thanks in advance

maestro299:
Insightful piece. But quick question: Are you currently based in Nigeria or outside the country?

Emu4life:
People are at Liberty to Migrate however they so wish. The problem I have is with the Dumb Nigerians who after migrating starts insulting and cursing their Countries of Origin. Motherfvcker!! Even if you stay in the UK or Canada for 3000 years, they will never consider you one of them. You will always be "the black monkey from a Shitty African Countries" according to them. So why not migrate, learn the developmental strides/processes there and comeback to impact on your 'real home' instead of insulting your ancestors just for the pale skinned man's acceptance that will never happen.

MimiSheWrote:
Hello Everyone, first of all I apologize in advance for the long note and also about my English, not actually my first language.

My name is Mimi, I was born in Nigeria... But cos of the nature of my dad's profession i have spent around 75% of my life in different countries outside Nigeria... Mostly in EU.

Well enough said about myself, cos this topic is not about me but about Nigerians... Our general mentality and perception of abroad.

Guys listen up... All that glitters is not really gold. Out there is not entirely what people think it is. And you might think just because I have spent so much time outside Nigeria i do not understand the struggle in Nigeria and therefore not qualified to tell you all this "nonsense"..... I completely get it.. trust me.

But even a random 3 years old kid knows that the country is messed up and nothing to write home about, we all know about the Suffering, depression and "starvation level of poverty" in Nigeria yeah.... That's why everyone is desperatly looking for a way out, no doubt... but trust me, JAPA is not 'always' your ticket out of poverty... Well 'sometimes' it is... but most times it's just your direct ticket to being subjected to racism,more depression,more struggles,several mental disorder,homelessness, modern day slavery and the list goes on and on.

Trust me... when it comes to hustling field, success is much more louder than failure. cos our mind was designed to constantly search for hope. which means you would quickly hear about the lucky 3% that made it big through JAPA, but hardly hear about the remaining unlucky 97% that found themselves in worse possible condition after the same JAPA. There's no money tree out here... there's no diamond river out here...
Is there more opportunities? Well yes, But there are millions of people that already done and still doing whatever you intend to come do over here and yet they are still in the worse condition than you are in right now.

You would literally cry when you see what most of our African brothers and sisters go through around the world in the name of Japa. And as a Nigerian?? Trust me it gets worse.. and your chances gets even much smaller. Cos no one trust Nigerians anymore any where around the world and I believe we all know why.

Sorry but I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble, kill anyone's vibe or being a negative biitch! Naaaah I'm only trying to be realistic! I'm only trying to tell you something no travel agent would ever tell you and something people abroad hardly tell you, and even when they eventually do tell you...? You don't believe them.. instead you result to asking them questions like "why are they still there if it's that bad"? .....

Well.... You wanna know why most of them are still there? Let me tell you why... there is a psychological reason for that... First They are still in DENIAL. Imagine dreaming your entire life to travel abroad and finally have a good life, you probably invested almost everything or everything you have got to make it happen (your money, your time, your last hope)
But then you finally got there and then meet a reality that is entirely different from your life long dreams and perception of these faraway green lands?
I don't know if you know... but our brain is defensive in nature, it will automatically switch straight to denial mode... Leaving you with atleast enough 'hope and wait for a magic or should i say a miracle' (afterall this is abroad where magic happens?)
This is just one of the reasons why most of these people continue sticking around instead of returning home.

Another reason is that they are worried about what people back home would say or think... Because the people back home also got this general fvcked up mentality and very high expectation of people coming back from Japa (y'all need to stop it! Y'all need to get rid of that mentality, seriously ) cos like I said earlier... there is no bleeping money tree over there! I don't know where Nigerians got that idea from in the first place...
It needs to stop, yall driving the youth nuts with such mentality, it's doing more harm than good. That high expectation/ pressure back home is mostly the reason our people are more likely to result to crime out here (so just stop it! )

I have met alot of other African nationalities abroad... and amazingly they don't share the same mentality we have about Abroad. They treat abroad as just another hustling ground and not a direct ticket to success... Therefore they are more relaxed and less pressured than Nigerians out here.

Moving Abroad is not such a bad idea though, it worked and still works for few lucky ones (including my Family) it would be wrong and biased of me if I fail to mention that..
There are plenty of and more opportunities over out here not doubt...
But what I'm just saying is that... it's not always that easily reached.. as most people automatically believe.
Look... Somehow all these countries are intelligently designed In such a way that it take back almost entirely everything you make out here from you one way or the other... Through tax, through mind blowing bills or random expenses around every corner.

And at the end of the day you realize you are nothing but a modern day slave building someone's country for free... And without freedom.

Most people screaming Japa in Nigeria are far in better living condition and more stable mentally ,more happy than majority of people in the so called abroad without even knowing it. Sometimes Instead of gambling and betting your hard earned million of naira on Japa, it's more advisable to chill out... relax and invest that Millions in Nigeria. I'm just saying... You would probably end up living a life most people over there can only envy and dream of.

Thanks for reading my long note... I hope this helps someone in making a life decision out there. #ItsYourGurlMimi

drew99:



I dare you to come leave in Nigeria just for six months and see the hardship we are going through, business are parking up, parents are withdrawing there wards from private schools to government schools, things are so tight for we common citizens because of the economy situation, I have resorted to become a bolt driver due to very low patronage in my business, kids and bills are their my mind is urging me to take a path in these japa journey, if you know how hard it is to leave in Nigeria right now, you won’t be saying all this.

Mindlog:
Another dissertation on Japa....if you are skilled and your skill sets are in high demand in a foreign country that better appreciates it, do well and relocate.

Whenever I read about racism in such dissertation, I instantly assume the writer means tribal bigotry that catwalks boldly in Nigeria and in many African countries is a non issue.

A stable life with a sense of order,is what many desire, it is not just about the money.

I will prefer to save £300 monthly after all deductions and expenditures than saving N500K monthly in Nigeria (which less than 0.5% of Nigerians can in Nigeria)

jesmond3945:
the dark side of the moon in abroad is far better than the bright side of the moon in naija

jesmond3945:
you are not being fair and just if you live in abroad and you are giving such an advise. Are you also aware that most african leaders prefer keeping their people in penury while sending their kids abroad or investing there. Look at ondo governor or even buhari. Do you know if buhari was not treated in uk, he would have been a dead man. So i say you guys giving these advise while outside Nigeria are very mean and wicked.

TruthDefender:
This man, you are a wick.ed liar.. You didn't mention that to receive PENSION, the person must be LEGAL.

maasoap:


Stop deceiving yourself, it is mostly about money. Rich people in Nigeria hardly think about japa. Even their children return to Nigeria as soon as they finish their education abroad.