FACE:



You guys are funny and it beats me where you all get these stuff from.

FACE:

You guys should stop making bold claims and trying to come up with crap.

FACE:

Abagworo,

My root is Ibeku and trust me, I know a lot about Ibeku and our neighbours and I don't need to rely on facebook or google other people's speculations. Ibeku is the biggest and probably the oldest clan in Umuahia and we do not have any history of coming from anywhere, other than interclan movements and ife obi (relocation of settlements)

My kindred, for example, have been in our current location for at least 400 years. It is an educated guess based on who begat who. We still go to the old settlement (1 Mile away) for Ekpe and iriji and in addition to our name, our own settlement is still referred to as "Obu ofuo" (new settlement) even though it is at least 400 years old.

Now, my kindred is only a hamlet of many that make up Ibeku. My clan is one of seven clans that make up Ibeku. Breaking down my Ibeku pedigree, you need to count between 5 and 7 steps (depending on how you count) before you get to the top of the tree (Ibeku).

I believe that we have been there for at least 5000 years if not forever. Even the ohuhu facebook page you posted did not make such a bold claim as you did with regards to Ibeku and Ikwuano. You guys should stop making bold claims and trying to come up with crap.

Abagworo:

You are a funny guy.So Abagworo wrote Ohuhu history on Ohuhu facebook page.I did not assert any authority to history as you claim.You only seem to know little about your little Ibeku.For a guy who does not know his next door neighbour "Ohuhu" I will not regard you as being cultural.

We are talking about the earliest recorded grouping of Igbos.Ngwa/Ohuhu were grouped together even with Asa,Ndoki and Ezilihite admist them.Oratta/Ikwerre were grouped together even with Ohaji,Egbema and Etche admist them.Isuama was grouped together even with the Oru and Orsu admist them.

I have gone as far as Igbanke,Ezza and Afikpo just to learn how divergent the Igbo spoken those places are.I have interviewed Ogba,Ngwa,Ikwerre,Aboh,Ezza,Ehugbo,Igbanke,Oratta(Owerri),Oguta,Mgbidi and Okija elders on history.Try and do that.

FACE:

Keep throwing wild punches and hoping to connect. You talk of earliest recorded grouping. Grouping and recording by whom and when ? 3000 years ago ? 300 years ago ? Abagworo years ago ?

Even the facebook page you copied as proof of your knowledge of oldest groups tells you about the origin of many Ohuhu clans other than the present location and you want to tell who that Ohuhu is one of the old clans of the location known as Umuahia ?

You talk about various Igbo clans and how you have interviewed everyone ; Okeke gara army kedu boot ya ?


There is hardly any Igbo dialect that I will not understand, because I have been around and interacted with people. I can comfortably claim Enugu, Abia and Imo as my states and I do claim them as a matter of fact.

I am more interested in languages than you can imagine. I understand Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba and French. Although I stayed in Lagos for a while, I started speaking Yoruba all the way from Kaduna by association with speakers, so don't try to act like you know more than you do when all you do is speculate.

I am done with this topic and you can continue to talk about things you CLEARLY do not know. More google and facebook to your elbow !

Abagworo:


Ok translate these dialects.

1) "Omere nna I da esi koo ma kwuru ni odu"

2) Ozila ha ma nu ji kani.

pazienza:

You people seem to have a way of confusing people wit the written forms of these dialects,for example,chineye wil always add unnecessary consonants in his written ngwa.

pazienza:

I don't agree with this your test,most times it is always easier to translate these dialects when they are spoken to you and not the written forms.

For example, i find it hard to translate most of the ika agbontae writes but i have never had any problem understanding a spoken ika,just like i cant understand chinenye's written ngwa,but i never had any problem understanding an ngwa man,even as an anambra man hearing the isiala ngwa dialect for the first time.

pazienza:

Yes, they are unnecessary and misleading,for example you spell ohuhu as ohnuhnu or something like that,it was not until abagworo wrote it as ohuhu that i was able to link it to a town i once visited when my friend's sister was having traditional marriage in afugiri ohuhu.So like i said, those your consonants are unnecessary and misleading,igbo language deals mostly with vowels than consonants.

Abagworo:


Ok translate these dialects.

1) "Omere nna I da esi koo ma kwuru ni odu"

2) Ozila ha ma nu ji kani.

ChinenyeN:

For someone who claims to have familiarity with okwu Ngwa, you seem at a big loss regarding what I'm saying. Someone else should come and school pazienza, because Chi knows he surely did not come here to listen to me. If he did, he would be asking questions, rather than making comments that display his lack of knowledge.

Abagworo:

Ngwa translation of 2)

"Odighi hwe ma la gi g'ika"


Abagworo,how about removing that hwe and writing ihe or he, hw is not an igbo alphabeth,it does not exist in abidi igbo.

If you have not translated that sentence in english,i would have been lost,trying to understand what hwe is,this is one of those confusion that people like chinenye introduces when they try to prove how unique their dialect is.

It wasnt long ago that i went to ngwaland for a function,the natives there uses ihe and not hwe,which by the way has no meaning in igbo language.

pazienza:

Hehehe! It is now confirmed,you are a joke.

  Did you say ask you questions? Obviously you think you are knowledgable,but your ignorance is so glaring for all to see,your inferiority complex is disturbing,why must you find a way to drag your ngwa into any discussion on this forum?

By the way,why did u write chi, chni would have been a better ngwa word,mschew!

pazienza:
Abagworo,how about removing that hwe and writing ihe or he, hw is not an igbo alphabeth,it does not exist in  abidi igbo.

 If you have not translated that sentence in english,i would have been lost,trying to understand what hwe is,this is one of those confusion that people like chinenye  introduces when they try to prove how unique their dialect is.

 It wasnt long ago that i went to ngwaland for a function,the natives there uses ihe and not hwe,which by the way has no meaning in igbo language.

Abagworo:

The Standard Igbo doesn't encompass all the variations in various dialects.For example that same Ihe or ife is "iphe" in Izzi dialect and pronounced that way.

ChinenyeN:

Onye o na-ewe ya wegbuo *shrug* ke m ke ole hnwe ngwa nvu l'erne

Abagworo:

The Standard Igbo doesn't encompass all the variations in various dialects.For example that same Ihe or ife is "iphe" in Izzi dialect and pronounced that way.

The function you went for in Isiala Ngwa had non-Ngwas hence a lighter Igbo was used in communication.There is actually no way you would not understand Ngwa or any other Igbo dialect because it is Igbo unless you are secluded all your life to a particular area.

pazienza:

Abagworo,isn't 'ph'  pronounced as 'f' . As long as i am concerned,ife is the same thing as ife.

Every igbo dialect can be written with the standard igbo 36 alphabeths,there is no need to add more like you and chinenye are trying to do. Dalu kwa.

pazienza:

Afu kwana,nnaa enwero ife na-enwe m iwe,ó kari yi nma na i kwusi ajo omume yi na ogbako a,o da adabalu yi na otutu ndiigbo no na ogbako a,ogosiri udili mmadu ibu,nkem di iche bu ajo afa,dalu kwa.

Abagworo:

It is safe to say we have our own identity even though we are part of the larger Igbo nation.We speak Igbo but in our dialect "Ihe" is called "hwe","ive","iphe" or "ihie".

IjogzK:
Igbo-ese (Bushes in the igbo people yam legs)

tpia5:
here's an igbo [ibo] name from two or three centuries ago:





can anyone translate this?

not sure if the spelling is right.