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Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by ExudeLoveToAll: 5:59pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Traditional marriage is legal in Nigeria, please note this. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 5:59pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
ExudeLoveToAll:Stop telling this lie! 1 Like |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by FireUpNow(m): 6:02pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
tonicyril:Guy but going registry will not take that authority away from you |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:02pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Armaggedon:The way many of you dey take reason upside down dey always amaze me. The courts rule over even your many traditional communities. Once a union is recognized by the courts, your traditional opinions mean absolutely nothing. 1 Like |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by ExudeLoveToAll: 6:03pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Tell me the truth since you said I lied Mr/Mrs Over sabi |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:05pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
FireUpNow:It does take it away because in the eyes of the court, the man and woman start off as equal partners in the union. Should the couple afterwards decide to create for themselves an unequal union, that is left up to the couple in question and may required the signing of formal agreement by both to do so. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by otomatic(m): 6:05pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
GenderMix: Did the registry not require a letter of consent from the bride's parents? |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:06pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
otomatic:Letter of consent for two adults getting married to each other? Are you people for real? 1 Like |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by luckyz4rea(m): 6:06pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Icrave4u: The bride price is the first to be considered, especially in a place like Nigeria. Why would someone rush to court without resolving the issue of bride price? You can’t use legal cover to mask a moral failure! |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:08pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
luckyz4rea:Bride price now of morality? Na wa oo! People can and do exactly that without consequence every single day in that same Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by otomatic(m): 6:10pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Very real. I've been married for more than a decade and it was a requirement. Recently I also wrote a letter for my sister. So what are you talking? The registry recognises 3 kinds of marriages one of which is customary. You want them to join you without asking questions, so you can run away with somebody's daughter? Or you think the registry is not staffed by Africans who know what is right? |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Raydave: 6:10pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
tonicyril:Does the religious book emphasize on paying dowry on Non-Virgin girl? |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Ugohenryugo(m): 6:13pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
This is a very important question. I've taken time to read every comment, just a few with all due respect comes close to the right and very correct answer. Before you start abusing me/calling me names and throwing all sorts of argument, do well to type on the Google search " what can render a court marriage null and void in Nigeria? ". Or Try to get the customary court/marriage edicts. Now to the main Koko, Have you ever wonder why matters like court marriages and divorce are conducted in a customary court? It's because customary courts are the closest to the culture and tradition of the people, this means it has jurisdiction over such cases which are usually considered based on the customs and traditions of the people under the court jurisdiction ( this ofcourse may not apply in some cases if the courts deems it right to come to her decision on other bases like human rights issues or in this scenario, the court may turn her back on the custom of the people, Also in a marriage between a Nigerian and a foreigner, the court may not lay emphasis on whether the bride price is paid or not since it's possible that payment of dowry may not be a requirement in the country of the woman, e.g a Nigerian man wedding his American lover in a Nigerian customary court for Japa🤣, does Americans pay dowry? No!). Now talking about what can render a marriage conducted in a customary court null and void, I will only treat one point. During the contraction of a court marriage, one of the question the oath administer asks is " Have you paid the dowry of miss .........? Have you satisfied the customs and traditions of her people in relation to marriage? if your answer are yes, you will be asked the full date that was done, that is the dowry payment or traditional marriage rites ". Note- The format of the question may be twisted, i.e it may not be exactly as how I asked it, but it usually carries the same context and message which is to certify that you have paid the bride price of the woman you want to wed in the court. Now, let's imagine you have not paid the dowry, and your answers to this questions is yes, do you know what crime you have commitment? PERJURY! Yes, perjury is a crime and it is a valid point to render a court marriage null and void. So, if payment of dowry or bride price is not important/a condition and requirement to be met before court marriage, why would the oath administer ask those questions? Many are saying here they or people they knew married without paying bride price, this is very possible because they probably lied to the marriage oath administer that they have paid the bride price. Presence of parents or family members is not a requirement, only Witnesses which could be anyone is required, so don't mistake this. Mind you that the customary court is following after the customs of the people under her jurisdiction, this means that, what is legal here might be illegal else where. But generally, the marriage edicts covers all the regions in Nigeria, whilst you can be legally married in other parts of the world without paying dowry, in Nigeria, court marriage requires the payment of dowry, that's what qualifies the couples to be wedded in Nigerian customary courts. Note: My use of customary courts refers to marriage registry. While the registery conducts the marriage, it's under the jurisprudence of a customary court. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by luckyz4rea(m): 6:14pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Whatever is generally accepted as tradition so long as it has “no evil” can be termed moral. In Nigeria’s context it is. By the way, when you are giving out your daughter or your son is getting married, ignore the bride price okay? Come here and gist me however it goes. I want to learn from you sir. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:21pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
otomatic:Was it instead the case that you first did your traditional before you then approached the courts to register said traditional marriage within the statute given? |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:24pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
luckyz4rea:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 So, if a person does not subscribe at all to your traditional ideals or clings to traditions that are completely different or even opposite of yours, that personal is immoral, abi? 2. God forbid I accept anything called brideprice for my son or daughter. Tufiakwa! They are not cattle that I must have a price on their heads. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by otomatic(m): 6:25pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: No. I married under the marriage act (not under customary) before my traditional marriage and church wedding. In fact I was legally married for some weeks before my traditional marriage and then the church wedding a week later. As a matter of fact, the registrar asked about the bride price and requested for my father inlaw to submit a written consent before the notice was published for 21 days. The same scenario also played out recently with my sister. She had the statutory marriage first before traditional and church. I was required to submit a written consent before the registry published their marriage notice. So, you can see why I asked that question. I'm curious to know if that practice is what is generally obtainable across the country. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Armaggedon: 6:26pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:continue wallowing in delusion. Even court marriages have counselling sessions where they strongly advise intending couple to pay bride price. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:30pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
otomatic:I am afraid your letter of consent claim violates the marriage act which you claim you submitted them towards unless those letters were instead meant to serve in place of the presence of live witnesses to the union. The Right to Enter into Marriage:The fact that Article 12 above makes clear that every man and woman has the fundamental right to be married literally means no consent/permission is required from any others to enter into such a union. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:33pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Armaggedon:Sounds like counseling sessions where they force traditional opinions on your individuals. I bet if you called up the courts today to verify your claim dem go tell us say those counselors do not do so on behalf or with the authority of the courts. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by patorial(m): 6:35pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
immortalcrown: There's nothing like court marriage or court wedding. The intending couple register their marriage with the registry. 1 Like |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by smasher1(m): 6:36pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Icrave4u: You are expected to visit and pay the bride pass in 21 days according to the Nigerian constitution. None payment in that time frame makes the marriage certificate no longer valid. So if anyone takes you to court after that time that you didn't satisfy the customary tradition, he or she can win the case in court leading to nullity of the marriage. But as long as no one dispute this, the marriage may continue endlessly. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by UnknownT: 6:36pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Yes, we did our registry before introduction/payment of bride price to increase the chance of visa application |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:37pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
smasher1:Where in the constitution is this stated? |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by otomatic(m): 6:38pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: There were live witnesses to the marriage bro. My wives parents, my parents, siblings and friends were present on the occasion. That letter was extracted as part of the application process and before the 21 days notice period. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:40pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
otomatic:Again, what you claim makes no sense considering the Law with which you claim your marriage was supposedly registered. Are you by any chance able to give us the information on the courts were your marriage was registered and on what date so I can maybe do some investigating into this "letter of consent" which you claim you had to submit even with witnesses present at your union? |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Chiuzk: 6:45pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Yes, I did my court wedding in January, bride price March, and church wedding June the same year. Reason was because I needed to redeploy from the state I was posted for my NYSC to the state where hubby was. That was over a decade ago. I still remember we were told in court that whether we have done any other marriage before coming to court or not, we are legally married in the court. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by otomatic(m): 6:47pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Sorry, I can't divulge personally identifiable information. But, you don't submit this letter with witnesses present. You submit it at the point of applying to the registry for marriage. After which, they publish the notice of marriage with passport photos of the couple for 3 weeks. At the end of the 3 weeks, a date is given for your marriage and that is when you show up with witnesses/guests. My sister is passing through the exact same process in the same state but In a different registry in a different town. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:51pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
otomatic:Where you under 21 at the time of your marriage? |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:52pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
otomatic:Is your sister under 21 or 18? How to register a marriage in Nigeria |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 6:55pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Chiuzk:Nigerians go dey complain say money no dey... yet they live very wasteful lives. |
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by tonicyril: 6:56pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Raydave:Nope, I don't think so |
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