Kukutenla:

Is Obasanjo Yoruba or Ibo

From Òwu. The original Òwu where the family from Imo State.

Ikinternational:



See what I mean....
Shame the devil n post your account balance if na man you be ....I won't hold my breath
Mr We

Dey follow us joor.


Oya, mention anything, anyone is in Nigeria that yorubas are not more. Any Field.

The fact of the matter doesn't matter to some judges, they are all out for technicality not the fact of the matter. They only give validity to irregularity in calculation that brought Sule in as the winner of the election. What they are trying to say is, if you steal and you're not caught in the act, you're free to enjoy your loot.

Ikinternational:



Have you figured out reasons for your failures?

You seem very astute in diagnosing things

Yorubas are champions in any field. I am a proud Yoruba with heritage of champions and achievers.

Osoboshi:
okay.so it means even at the supreme court the can't do anything about it again right,like correcting their mistakes

The supreme court already affirmed the ruling on frontloading.there was no mistake

garfield1:


The supreme court already affirmed the ruling on frontloading.there was no mistake

the question I'm asking is can the front loading still be done before it reaches the supreme court for final judgement.by the way ur political argument are mostly right kudos

MT:


Did you read the judgement?

Do you even have the slightest idea of how the court works ?

Do you have an objection to the ground stated by the Lordships ?

Judgements are always in two faces, the fact of the matter and the truth of the matter. The judges only dwell on the fact and not the truth. Someone erroneously added votes he didn't merit and because the witnesses were not front loaded, does that take away that wrong votes were added. What it meant is that a thief can continue thieving so far he is not caught in the act. This is more of technicality and it potent danger to the polity. No serious country run their affairs in such direction.

garfield1:


This is a good judgement

It was a bad judgement. The truth of the matter was neglected. Should the governor now benefit from the added votes he never garnered? Except you're saying if a thief steals and he is not caught he should continue stealing.

Nassarawa people over to you!

iokpebholo:
Even his native irrua no go vote am,very dull man.

Somebody that defeated PDP in Edo central to become a Senator, for the first time since the return of democracy in 1999. Go take your drugs biko.

garfield1:


Pdp had 30 states between 2007-2010.
Pdp started the court victory from bayelsa.apc hasn't stolen any state from pdp

PDP did not have 30 states in 2007 to 2010. APC stole Edo from PDP in 2008.

Indispensable85:
This was expected flowing from the decision of the supreme court in the presidential election petition case. If you fail to front load witness statement on oath along with your petition ur name na sorry.

Pls what is the meaning of front Lord as used here.
thanks

garfield1:


The supreme court settled this in atiku and obi vs tinubu supra 2023

The question is he did not make such pleadings at the tribunal

MightySparrow:


Trust Yoruba lawyers. Only failures employ others. Law is based on technicalities not sentiments.

The reason Atiku, Obi and others failed in courts.

Law is Yoruba; Yoruba is Law .

Hope you didn't eat poo? "Law is based on technicalities". Please who taught you the quoted? Technicality is just the invention of some judges. Judgements are expected to be full and filled with justice. Any judgement void of justice is anti-people and has attendant repercussion. Please where is the justice when you reward a thief for thieving votes and added it to win election? Yes, the judge can expunged the witnesses not front loaded but he is still expected to dwell on the fact of the matter for justice sake and may later request for a rerun election by outrightly cancel the entire votes in those polling units for justice sake as to punish both candidates for the respondent not front loading and the petitioner thieving votes.

IfnobeGod20:

Judgements are always in two faces, the fact of the matter and the truth of the matter. The judges only dwell on the fact and not the truth. Someone erroneously added votes he didn't merit and because the witnesses were not front loaded, does that take away that wrong votes were added. What it meant is that a thief can continue thieving so far he is not caught in the act. This is more of technicality and it potent danger to the polity. No serious country run their affairs in such direction.

Funny thing is this story of frontloading is just coming up after most tribunal cases had been completed. Just imagine making rules after a football match

Fountainofyouth:
A bad precedence for Apc, they actually think they will be in power forever, when it's time for others to do same hope they won't cry blue murder.

What always pain me most is that, the same old people who did who have also run to the new ruling party, making it a win win for them...

IfnobeGod20:

Hope you didn't eat poo. "Law is based on technicalities". Please who taught you the quoted? Technicality is just the invention of some judges. Judgements are expected to be full and died with justice. Any judgement void of justice is anti-people and has attendant repercussion. Please where is the justice when you reward a thief for thieving votes and added it to win election. Yes, the judge can expunged the witnesses not front loaded but he is still expected to dwell on the fact of the matter for justice sake and may later request for a rerun election.

What does it even mean to frontload witness and how does that help the cause of justice?
You have EC8 forms showing clearly that votes were not properly collated and tallied. You leave all those hard evidences and start dwelling on when and how witnesses were called. Mind you, the EA2022 gives as much value to documentary evidence as it gives to oral evidence. This frontloading issue is simply saying EA can go to hell. In fact, i can count how many times judgements have pooh-poohed the EA that was so celebrated just last year!
You know the funny thing, if PDP lawyers had chosen not to call witnesses they'll accuse them of dumping evidence on the court when EA already removed the need for calling witnesses. You see how dishonest these judges are?

Kukutenla:

Funny thing is this story of frontloading is just coming up after most tribunal cases had been completed. Just imagine making rules after a football match

Front loading of witnesses is a judicial protocol as not to ambush the respondent. It is part of the law but that doesn't take away justice been served as the governor truly added votes he didn't scored. It is dangerous to look away from the thieving votes added to Sule's overall votes.

Kukutenla:

What does it even mean to frontload witness and how does that help the cause of justice?
You have EC8 forms showing clearly that votes were not properly collated and tallied. You leave all those hard evidences and start dwelling on when and how witnesses were called. Mind you, the EA2022 gives as much value to documentary evidence as it gives to oral evidence. This frontloading issue is simply saying EA can go to hell. In fact, i can count how many times judgements have pooh-poohed the EA that was so celebrated just last year!

Front loading of witnesses is a judicial protocol as not to ambush the respondent but that doesn't stop justice been served in law. The governor cannot benefit from the votes theft, it amount to double standard to have allowed that. As it is now, judgement was served but justice not delivered.

IfnobeGod20:

Front loading of witnesses is a judicial protocol as not to ambush the respondent. It is part of the law but that doesn't take away justice been served as the governor truly added votes he didn't scored. It is dangerous to look away from the thieving votes added to Sule's overall votes.

But not frontloading was never a ground to throw out a petition until this Obi and Atiku case. The respondents usually ask for more time to study the new witness statement if not frontloaded. All this talk of frontloading started after the presidential tribunal judgment

Kukutenla:

But not frontloading was never a ground to throw out a petition until this Obi and Atiku case. The respondents usually ask for more time to study the new witness statement if not frontloaded. All this talk of frontloading started after the presidential tribunal judgment

No no, it has always been there but due to APC mischievous wat they just resurrected it. It's a judicial standard as to checkmate ambushing respondents but just have said, it doesn't take away delivering justice on cases.

IfnobeGod20:

No no, it has always been there but due to APC mischievous wat they just resurrected it. It's a judicial standard as to checkmate ambushing respondents but just have said, it doesn't take away delivering justice on cases.

is it possible to still front load before the case is taken to supreme court

Kukutenla:

But not frontloading was never a ground to throw out a petition until this Obi and Atiku case. The respondents usually ask for more time to study the new witness statement if not frontloaded. All this talk of frontloading started after the presidential tribunal judgment

is it still possible to front load before the case is now taken to supreme court

Osoboshi:
is it still possible to front load before the case is now taken to supreme court

No. Frontloading simply means to declare upfront the witnesses you intend to call before trial starts.

The problem mostly is that subpoenaed witnesses usually are not willing to come to trial except mandated to by a subpoena. Whether subpoena can be obtained before trial starts though i can't say but I don't think that should be something to throw a substantive case away for if not that the judges are already biased

IfnobeGod20:

No no, it has always been there but due to APC mischievous wat they just resurrected it. It's a judicial standard as to checkmate ambushing respondents but just have said, it doesn't take away delivering justice on cases.

Can you give me example of cases that were thrown out because the witnesses were not frontloaded?

Indispensable85:



Somebody that defeated PDP in Edo central to become a Senator, for the first time since the return of democracy in 1999. Go take your drugs biko.

Are you from Edo central?Do you know what happened during the last election??

Osoboshi:
is it possible to still front load before the case is taken to supreme court

No, it is done before pretrial but that suppose not take away justice been served. The judges are just being clever by half by awarding judgement to Sule. Sule should not have benefited from the stolen votes he added to his overall votes.
I read one comment here, that APC did not even pleaded for the expungement of the witnesses discountenance by the Appeal Court. Days to come we will surely hear the fact of this issue. If they didn't pleaded it, then, Appeal Court had scored own goal.

Kukutenla:

Can you give me example of cases that were thrown out because the witnesses were not frontloaded?

I think about 10 of Obi witnesses and about 15 Atiku witnesses were all thrown out because they were not front loaded before the pretrial began.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://punchng.com/breaking-court-rejects-10-out-of-13-witnesses-presented-by-obi/%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjMlNq0rNqCAxVBVEEAHRm3BmUQFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3VqdTADjnKz5cIHQs6eKVS



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://punchng.com/tribunal-rejects-15-witnesses-in-atiku-case-against-tinubu/%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjP_Z7crdqCAxUwUUEAHRagAN8QFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3G9f-trmkvqKTP5MxVFnB_

Bluntemperor:


So anything not favourable to LP& PDP Sympathersers,is injustice!
Go School for a better understanding of Laws and Facts of these Cases,Una no gree! You are now looking for your likefeathers to join you as Sympathersers !
Did you and your entourage care to read the Courts Judgements on:
1.-Zanfara States against APC.
2.- Rivers State Judgement against APC
Learn from Experience of Others and since your Parties don't want to do that,but love Social Media emphaty,then more mistakes are coming and you will continue to be Elupe!

Mugu and idiot,do you think I support LP?To me obi was the reason why Nigerians are in this hardship today so kindly go and sleep

The thing tire men.the grave yard experience is gargantuan. We all knew PDP won land slide but ... The PDP MAN MUST wake up, Islam won't allow him to come on board.Lwt eh papers be counted again. The judge only bought extra time for SULE , HE WILL DEFINITELY LEAVE COME JANUARY quote author=Teymanhenry post=127122057]APC at work. city of Lafia is silent as the grave. Damn!!! The people especially Christians will now feel the full wrath of AA Sule for not voting him in the first place [/quote]

IfnobeGod20:

It was a bad judgement. The truth of the matter was neglected. Should the governor now benefit from the added votes he never garnered? Except you're saying if a thief steals and he is not caught he should continue stealing.

It is a good judgement according to the law.pdp tendered evidence illegally.