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Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Available9: 7:41pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
nairalanda1: Algeria produces about 4 times more oil than we do but Algeria is not 4 times more corrupt like Nigeria... 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by DeepSight(m): 7:41pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
nairalanda1: The only reason our budget remains that poor - and I repeat with emphasis - the ONLY reason is our unthinkable political corruption. An oil producing country which has no working refineries for almost two decades speaks for itself. Let me also assure you that the theft of this country's resources is beyond the obvious. Those who collude with politicians to quietly steal solid minerals are there. Those who have deliberately sabotaged the power sector are there. If you think the subsidy was just a normal thing that had to go because "Nigerians are lazy" then you dont understand the depth of what transpires in this country. A subsidy that was only about 300 billion some years ago became over six trillion and you dont understand that a mafia was at work. The only reason it has been seized now is simply because Bretton Woods institutions will not continue loaning our political elite money to steal at that level. There are natural subsidies in every country. Its the extreme and even demonic theft of ours that has forced this situation. Again, if you dont know that all the savings from the removal of subsidy in Nigeria will still be voraciously stolen by politicians, then you dont know Nigeria. In Nigeria there are roads projects that have been financed by every government since Obasanjo's - and remain untouched. That level of theft should tell you the matter really rests with political corruption. Now that the cookie is crumbling or rather the cookie jar has so shrunk that there is little to steal, they wish to shift the burden to the poor. Also, like someone pointed out up there, the true measure of a country's wealth is its GDP and not its budget. With our GDP, which has even been dropping, we can have a far bigger budget than 33 Bn. We can grow that GDP very fast also - exponentially even. My dear, in Nigeria, taxing the people more is also no solution to political corruption. If you dont know that such tax will still disappear and yet Nigerians will move on, then you still dont know your country. Mind you, I dont say dont tax - I simply point out that it will not do jack to corruption. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Simeonjoe1: 7:42pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
Phantom233: They would be tangible result and true they'll loot a bigger share too. |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Joy2dworldxyz: 7:43pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
Poverty Hqtrs Republic....... I hail thee... No ok w tell me why guys no go dae jappa to these North/South countries..... |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Ikinternational: 7:43pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
Ogene001: Deep.....A Word |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Catapault: 7:44pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
gare: My friend will you shut up there. Where and how did you calculate that 70% of the budget is stolen? You people just come in here and type nonsense. The most that is stolen is between 20 and 30 percent, if that. Anything more than that and we would need international food aid and Red Cross plus UN here. The NUMBER 1 problem of Nigeria is NOT corruption. It is that we don’t earn enough as a country. The oil money is a pittance for our huge population. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by michoim(m): 7:44pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
abdeefggh:It is simply pathetic for Nigeria now ... |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by tsdarkside(m): 7:45pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
casualobserver: i tell you.... soo,suggestin taxin more will only hit the poor much harder in nigeria.... |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Kukutenla: 7:46pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
tsdarkside:This one has started making excuses for criminals How much are you been paid to do this? |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Kukutenla: 7:47pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
nairalanda1:Yeah. I'm sure South Africa has a past ruler who is still sending them money from the grave and a past minister who is standing trial for bribery in UK. Dey deceive yasef because of agbado |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by lordaltruist(m): 7:48pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
abdeefggh: Nigerians and complain are like 5&6 If dem increase am you go complain say wetin dem dey use am do, if dem reduce am you go still complain say e no go reach you; wetin you want make dem do for you sef? |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by tsdarkside(m): 7:48pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
Kukutenla: paid to do what....?? nigeria is not a rich country....period.... the sooner you realize that the better for you.... you go fight other nigerians tire.... |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Ikinternational: 7:49pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
nairalanda1: This is stupid Way to add stupidity to the thread Clap for yourself |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by BabaAduras: 7:49pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
Tochi3: See how parochial your thinking is. So it is only Buhari and Tinubu the messed the country up? Because of political blindness, you have developed selective memory and cannot think logically. You cannot understand that the problem of Nigeria started when Agunyi Ironsi cancelled the prosperous regional governments and concentrated power and economy at the center. That singular action, killed all the regional bases of industrialization (Palm Kernel in the West, Groundnut and Leather in the North, Coal mining in the East). This was followed by the recklessness of Gowon/Awolowo era of "our problem is not how to make money but how to spend it" coupled with the hyper-inflation that followed "Udoji Allowance." Muritala and Obj just followed Gowon/Awolowo economic blueprint and handed power to the super looting era of Shehu Shagari. From then to date, the only government that tried to change the trend was GMB/Idiagbon. Unfortunately, Nigerians were not ready to make the necessary sacrifices to make it work. So the government did not last. It was toppled by the smiling super-looter IBB. All the governments we have had since then to date are just super-looters with no plan nor the boldness to drive necessary change that would have resulted in the nations prosperity. The hope is that BAT can sustain the bold initiatives he has started to reverse our fortunes. That is the waiting game. It is simply too early now to see a sudden reverse in fortune of an economy that has been damaged and battered for over a period of close to 55 years. I must say, people like you who cannot look back to understand the problems, but reason and make comments from political/ethnical/tribal point of view are not helping the matter at all. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Kukutenla: 7:50pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
tsdarkside:So how does Nigeia have the largest GDP in Africa? Can you explain how an economy that produces goods and services worth over300bn in a year is a poor country 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by lozanni(m): 7:50pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
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Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by tsdarkside(m): 7:52pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
BabaAduras: they just want you to vote who they like....thats all.... they dont realy look at the real issues.... |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by DeepSight(m): 7:53pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
Catapault: Please I mean no offense oh, so try to take none - but how old are you? Because I dont know if you know much of our country. I dont know if you know, for example, how we budget for certain pieces of major infrastructure every year, and leave them untouched. There are many I can point out to you which have been funded for over twenty years consistently and never been touched. What is that if not black magic. That's why I asked how old you are. If the question offends you, please let me translate it to how long you have been following political economics in Nigeria. That's a better way to phrase it. Dear friend, if you understand the ruthlessness of our corruption and its depth and scale, you would know that corruption has always been our biggest problem. If you like earn one trillion dollars, it will disappear in Nigeria, I guarantee you. |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Floky215: 7:53pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
Phantom233: Even the 33Billion budget, what would they do with it apart from looting it....!!? By the time they remove the padded amount budget would drop to 10Billion and out of the remaining 10B only like 10% would trickle down, the rest would do snake in the monkey shadow movement..!!! Guy don't hold brief for the useless government...!! 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Gboom: 7:54pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
Burob:You really nailed it. Nigerian politicians in power irrespective of their party affiliate are bunch of insincere and questionable characters. |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by DeepSight(m): 7:55pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
Kukutenla: Besides they sent Zuma to Jail. Which Nigerian president can even be investigated, not to speak of jailed. |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by tsdarkside(m): 7:55pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
DeepSight: i dont agree with you on this.... corruption is in every country in the world....but to think nigerias problem is only corruption is makin it look too simple.... |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by GloriousGbola: 7:56pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
abdeefggh: I never knew there were only four countries in Africa. We learn something new every day |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Elsueno: 7:56pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
To be honest, I still don't think we are even up to 150 million in this country...So many things just doesn't make sense with that 200 mil stuff
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Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by casualobserver: 7:56pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
tsdarkside: There is an economics to tax collection. They can’t target the poor because they have little to give if any, for the efforts/overheads required to get the tax out of them. It is the self employed of which there are many that don’t pay their fair share of taxes. The guy who sells spare parts that you are hailing for buildings big house is not a poor man and I can bet you he does not pay the right amount of taxes. The man who deals in haulage, the wholesale food seller, the government contractor, the landlord with multiple properties collecting rent, etc etc etc….most of these people only pay token taxes and many of them are very well off. A lot of them are richer than the salaried workers who bear the brunt of our tax burden because they are deducted at source. It is easy to target these people because all you need to do is target their BVNs. See who is paying N10m-46m duty to clear a car, who is buying 1st class or business class tickets, whose account turnover is above a certain amount etc etc . We can leverage technology to know who isn’t paying taxes. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Chibuezem(m): 7:57pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
Corn247:what can we do to make the population productive? |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by tsdarkside(m): 7:58pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
DeepSight: corruption still remains in south africa....even worsened sef.... zumas followers even rioted sef.... |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by 2chainz411: 7:58pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
abdeefggh:forget the comparisons between Nigeria and them,it is very simple that everything they are doing is very transparent and open but here before the end of a year for the budget to last,they will loot more that the figures of those countries and put jara, wicked cabals! |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by tsdarkside(m): 8:00pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
casualobserver: bros,its more complicated than you think....trump was scared to tax the rich more in america because he thinks its the rich that give jobs to the poor.... |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by casualobserver: 8:01pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
tsdarkside: Trump wasn’t scared to tax the rich, the republicans have always been a party of low taxes…it is ideological. And there is a difference between taxing people who already pay taxes more and targeting people who don’t pay. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by Ikinternational: 8:04pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
tsdarkside: You that was born in your region, what do you own?? Go to any embassy in Nigeria n see your people everywhere. No be land of Gold again If you're afraid of competition just say that punk |
Re: Nigeria's Budget Vs Other African Countries Budget by tsdarkside(m): 8:05pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
casualobserver: you mean those that cant pay....?? wetin you wan pay when you dont have.... na market women sellin fish you wan tax....?? how much you wan tax such people....?? or is it poor people sellin gala and other substandard stuffs on highways you wan tax....?? how much....?? the rich will always find a way to bypass your taxes....they pay people to find out those loopholes.... the only way out is for nigeria to produce more and rely less on imports.... 1 Like |
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