There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment

Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14.

Where was Elijah said to have come?

Then he is also said to come again at the end of the world.


Attn: Fxmasterz,SirTee15,Malcom1x,Maximdhouse,Mightysparrow,MrPrevailer,Tenq and all who can shed light and knowledge about this.

Explore2xmore:
There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment

Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14.

Where was Elijah said to have come?

Then he is also said to come again at the end of the world.


Attn: Fxmasterz,SirTee15,Malcom1x,Maximdhouse,Mightysparrow,MrPrevailer,Tenq and all who can shed light and knowledge about this.

Actually Elijah did not die.
But my answer will focus on Paul. The supposed Paul was simply disoriented when he made that phrase or let's say the author of the book of acts was simply disoriented.
The bible for a very long time is known to be a book of gaffes.

It says one thing then goes on to another chapter to say something entirely different.

If you've studied your bible and you are very fortunate to understand simple English. You'd realise that Apostle Paul was wrong with that statement.

The word "Die" is a verb, a doing word.
"Die" or "dying" as the case may be,is different from being "dead"

Everyone that was raised from the dead in the bible already defiled Paul's logic.
For instance:
In 1Kings 17:17-24 The widow of Zarepath's son died, but Elijah brought him back to life.
It means he already died once, but after he was raised, he died again(so technically speaking he died twice)

•2kings 4:18-37 , The same also happened to the Shunamite's son
•The guy who rose after he came in contact with Elisha's bones
•The widow of Nain's son
•Jairus daughter
•Tabitha
•Lazarus all died once and rose to life again, then they finally died (which made them die twice)

•The same happened to Paul in Acts 20: 7-12, where he made Eutychus live again.

All the people I've listed above died twice, but Paul said "for it is appointed unto man to die once, hence judgement".

Therefore Paul was either saying something different or he was plainly ignorant.

Explore2xmore:
There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment

Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14.

Where was Elijah said to have come?

Then he is also said to come again at the end of the world.


Attn: Fxmasterz,SirTee15,Malcom1x,Maximdhouse,Mightysparrow,MrPrevailer,Tenq and all who can shed light and knowledge about this.

Christianity does not believe in reincarnation.

Elijah never died. He was taken up in a chariot of fire. So a reappearance of this prophet does not qualify as a reincarnation.

But actually, Jesus was not referring to John in that statement of His as the very same Elijah but rather, His reference to John as being Elijah was a reference to the same anointing and fiery spirit that Elijah carried.

A prophecy about John in Luke 1:17 will bring clarity to the matter.

"And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the parents to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous—to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

Explore2xmore:
There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment

Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14.

Where was Elijah said to have come?

Then he is also said to come again at the end of the world.


Attn: Fxmasterz,SirTee15,Malcom1x,Maximdhouse,Mightysparrow,MrPrevailer,Tenq and all who can shed light and knowledge about this.

Jesus was referencing the spirit of Elijah in John the baptist. John is not reincarnated Elijah.

Explore2xmore:
■ There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment

■ Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14. Where was Elijah said to have come?
Then he is also said to come again at the end of the world.

Your understanding of Scripture is obviously flawed Op.

Elijah, whom you point to there, was of the Old Covenant Law of Moses, a Covenant separate and different from that which is Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant, and Law in the Kingdom of God. So, right off you are attempting to apply that which works in the Old Covenant in the New Covenant. Jesus Christ did hint at this when He suggested that even John, the last of the Old Covenant prophets, was no greater than the least in the Kingdom of God, clearly revealing that that which applied to the Old has no place in the New.

In the New Covenant, Jesus Christ offered everyone of the blood of Israel who would become citizens of the Kingdom of God, Eternal Life for free right from the gate(Narrow and Broad gates). His Covenant makes clear that after death would come judgment for all the sheep and goats in His Kingdom at a time in the future after He returns- Matthew 25 vs 31 - 25 & John 5 vs 19 - 29. So what use would reincarnation serve those who have Eternal Life in this life?

FRANCISTOWN:

Actually Elijah did not die.
But my answer will focus on Paul. The supposed Paul was simply disoriented when he made that phrase or let's say the author of the book of acts was simply disoriented.
The bible for a very long time is known to be a book of gaffes.

It says one thing then goes on to another chapter to say something entirely different.

If you've studied your bible and you are very fortunate to understand simple English. You'd realise that Apostle Paul was wrong with that statement.

The word "Die" is a verb, a doing word.
"Die" or "dying" as the case may be,is different from being "dead"

Everyone that was raised from the dead in the bible already defiled Paul's logic.
For instance:
In 1Kings 17:17-24 The widow of Zarepath's son died, but Elijah brought him back to life.
It means he already died once, but after he was raised, he died again(so technically speaking he died twice)

•2kings 4:18-37 , The same also happened to the Shunamite's son
•The guy who rose after he came in contact with Elisha's bones
•The widow of Nain's son
•Jairus daughter
•Tabitha
•Lazarus all died once and rose to life again, then they finally died (which made them die twice)

•The same happened to Paul in Acts 20: 7-12, where he made Eutychus live again.

All the people I've listed above died twice, but Paul said "for it is appointed unto man to die once, hence judgement".

Therefore Paul was either saying something different or he was plainly ignorant.

I don't think you are right. None of these ones you have referenced died twice. They were raised from the dead, giving an extension of the same life. Elijah, Mises and Enoch cases are different, even ven Melchizedek's. These people didn't die. They were special category of people.

Raising from the dead is a temporary, the person would still die again. It doesn't matter how long he or she lived after being raised from the dead. Resurrection is another thing to happen at the end of the age. The Bible teaches that it is to take place in the future. There are two resurrections mentioned it the book of Revelations, none has happened yet. At resurrection, a new body is given suitable for the new world. A raised person still retrains his earthly body. Resurrection is final, irreversible, and eternal. It is the end of this life and the beginning of the other.



About reincarnation, the Bible doesn't teach that, and Hebrews 9: 27 is not saying that either. Paul was making a comparison.

About John and Elijah, Jesus was making reference to prophecy àbout similarity of ministry. John had a strange kind of ministry, he introduced baptism. He like Elijah led a new order. Jesus was asking the pharisees it John's baptism was from man or God. To this, they didn't have one answer.


Thanks

Explore2xmore:
There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment

Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14.

Where was Elijah said to have come?

Then he is also said to come again at the end of the world.


Attn: Fxmasterz,SirTee15,Malcom1x,Maximdhouse,Mightysparrow,MrPrevailer,Tenq and all who can shed light and knowledge about this.

Christians do NOT believe in reincarnation as it is contrary to the scripture.

1. Elijah did not die but was taken bodily to heaven, therefore this is not a reincarnation
2Kin 2:11:
"And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven."

2. Jesus said, that John the Baptist was Elijah (without giving any explanation of how it is). Jesus simply said:

Mat 11:14:
"And if you will receive it, this is Elijah, which was for to come."

Mat 17:11-13:
"And Jesus answered and said to them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say to you, That Elijah is come already, and they knew him not, but have done to him whatever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spoke to them of John the Baptist."

Since Elijah never died, this cannot be called a reincarnation.

Not withstanding, as Christians, we believe in miracles from God as a suspension of the norm in specific instances such that God reserves the right to resurrect anyone or even cause a person to be reincarnated. However, this would be a miracle of God and stands unchallenged by us as Christians.

@TenQ whether you guys believe or not that is una cup of tea. It is biblical. One day you guys will understand


Elijah taken bodily to heaven, he recieved a spiritual/heavenly body. You have become spirits like them and can no longer function on earth unless you take up body/reincarnate/reborn. It is likened to death


Jesus didn't give any explanation on the issue but you quoted Matt 17:11-13 where he clearly said he came already. In Reincarnation it is same path. An evil woman sought to kill him before he was taken up. An evil woman later killed him. He was also reborn as a kid till the time for his ministry same with the messiah

It is a Reincarnation cos it means to take up a new body and be reborn as a child on earth. Those in heaven are spirits and can't truly function on earth without a body/re-incarnating. Same with us. We can only go their with a spiritual body. The earthly body will fall off. That is what happened to Elijah. This is also what Paul talked about by being CHANGED during RAH-P-ture

Explore2xmore:

There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment
Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14.
Where was Elijah said to have come?
Then he is also said to come again at the end of the world.
Attn: Fxmasterz,SirTee15,Malcom1x,MaxInDHouse,Mightysparrow,MrPrevailer,Tenq and all who can shed light and knowledge about this.

Humans are products of reproduction just like in all other creatures {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20} so when a person dies he or she has returned to non-existence completely {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} the one and only hope for humans is what is recorded in the Bible book of Job 14:13-15:

O that in the Grave you would conceal me, That you would hide me until your anger passes by, That you would set a time limit for me and remember me! If a man dies, can he live again? I will wait all the days of my compulsory service Until my relief comes. You will call, and I will answer you. You will long for the work of your hands.

God created humans with the ability to reason and improve on the condition of his environment {Genesis 1:26} and that is the reason why God made man so after Adamic sin led to man's inability to continue living {Romans 5:12} God decided to give innocent descendants of Adam the opportunity to come back to life so as to continue doing what they were created for {John 5:28-29} of course only those that live up to expectations like job will be remembered {Job 14:15} as for those that chose to be useless regarding God's purpose (will) they will be left forever in their inactive state at death! Psalms 9:17

So when Jesus said Elijah has returned in person of John the baptist he was talking about a prophet God said will be like Elijah in manner but not Elijah {John 1:21} because it's only one a human has the opportunity to prove if he is worthy of resurrection or not! Hebrews 9:27

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

bobestman:
@TenQ whether you guys believe or not that is una cup of tea. It is biblical. One day you guys will understand


Elijah taken bodily to heaven, he recieved a spiritual/heavenly body. You have become spirits like them and can no longer function on earth unless you take up body/reincarnate/reborn. It is likened to death


Jesus didn't give any explanation on the issue but you quoted Matt 17:11-13 where he clearly said he came already. In Reincarnation it is same path. An evil woman sought to kill him before he was taken up. An evil woman later killed him. He was also reborn as a kid till the time for his ministry same with the messiah

It is a Reincarnation cos it means to take up a new body and be reborn as a child on earth. Those in heaven are spirits and can't truly function on earth without a body/re-incarnating. Same with us. We can only go their with a spiritual body. The earthly body will fall off. That is what happened to Elijah. This is also what Paul talked about by being CHANGED during RAH-P-ture

It is simple to. comprehend sir!
1. Up to the time of Christ, did Elijah die?
2. If he did, where was his body or grave?

If death is the separation of the union between a person's Body and Soul, can one truly say that Elijah died?
3. If there was no death, can their be reincarnation?

MightySparrow:



I don't think you are right. None of these ones you have referenced died twice. They were raised from the dead, giving an extension of the same life. Elijah, Mises and Enoch cases are different, even ven Melchizedek's. These people didn't die. They were special category of people.

Raising from the dead is a temporary, the person would still die again. It doesn't matter how long he or she lived after being raised from the dead. Resurrection is another thing to happen at the end of the age. The Bible teaches that it is to take place in the future. There are two resurrections mentioned it the book of Revelations, none has happened yet. At resurrection, a new body is given suitable for the new world. A raised person still retrains his earthly body. Resurrection is final, irreversible, and eternal. It is the end of this life and the beginning of the other.



About reincarnation, the Bible doesn't teach that, and Hebrews 9: 27 is not saying that either. Paul was making a comparison.

About John and Elijah, Jesus was making reference to prophecy àbout similarity of ministry. John had a strange kind of ministry, he introduced baptism. He like Elijah led a new order. Jesus was asking the pharisees it John's baptism was from man or God. To this, they didn't have one answer.


Thanks

Honestly I don't understand a thing from all that you have said.
I'm talking about "die" as an action word.
Those people all DIED the first time, which the bible recorded as their first time of tasting death.
None of them was taken to heaven(so they must have died again(2ND TIME))
Now that made it the second time they DIED.

Paul said "for it is appointed unto man to die once..."
If Paul was right, raising people from the dead should not be possible, because it , would mean them dying twice. Lazarus died once, but instead of judgement. Jesus raised him.
This is simple English.
Enoch, Melchizedek and Elijah didn't die. So their case is different.
Paul was wrong to say "it is appointed unto man to die once"

FRANCISTOWN:

Enoch, Melchizedek and Elijah didn't die. So their case is different.

They all died before the next generation after their lifetime and they are all in their graves till today. Enoch, Melchizedek and Elijah are part of Adam's descendants that INHERITED SIN and DEATH from Adam so they can't live twice.

As for those resurrected they never lived twice going by your thinking because their age never reduced rather they continue living right from the age they died before they were miraculously brought back to life so it is still once they lived not twice.

Take for instance someone who went into a comma and has been considered dead clinically if by any chance he is revived does he start all over from childhood?
NO!
So as long as they continued growing older till they died means they only lived once not twice!

@Explore2xmore
@FxMasterz
@SIRTee15
@MightySparrow
@MaxInDHouse

I'll be speaking according to the bible.
John the Baptist was infact the reincarnation of Elijah.
Let's walk thru the bible together.
What happens when a man dies?
His earthly body returns back to the ground.
It is impossible to ascend into heaven with your earthly body.
For God himself said this to the first man who inherited death.

In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the earth, out of which thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and into dust thou shalt return. Gen 3:19

When Enoch was taken up to heaven, he was not taken with his earthly body, likewise Elijah

Apostle Paul better explained this in

Phil3: 21 He will take our weak mortal bodies and change them into glorious bodies like his own, using the same power with which he will bring everything under his control.

The earthly body cannot survive in heaven.
So Enoch and Elijah must have been given a new body just as Paul explained.

Now about reincarnation.
See what the dictionary says:
•A rebirth of a soul, in a physical life form, such as a body.
Since Elijah was taken into heaven without his earthly body. It is reasonable to say he was a soul.
Now in Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

John was the only prophet that was sent just before Jesus.

Even Jesus confirmed that indeed John the Baptist was a prophet in Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist...

Luke 1:17 "And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah..."

Simply put, the spirit of Elijah in a new earthly body.
And Jesus really said it clearly in

Mat 11:14:
"And if you will receive it, this is Elijah, which was for to come."

Mat 17:11-13:
"And Jesus answered and said to them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say to you, That Elijah is come already, and they knew him not, but have done to him whatever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spoke to them of John the Baptist."

When Elijah was taken to heaven, he was given a different body, so, he had to enter a new earthly body which can only happen by birth. Hence, reincarnation

FRANCISTOWN:

@MaxInDHouse
I'll be speaking according to the bible.
John the Baptist was infact the reincarnation of Elijah.

Let's hear from the horses mouth!

This is the witness John gave when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him: “Who are you?” And he admitted it and did not deny it, saying: “I am not the Christ.” And they asked him: “What, then? Are you E·liʹjah?” He replied: “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered: “NO" John 1:19-21

John the baptist declared that he is NOT Elijah so if Jesus use comparisons regarding the manner of person John was that doesn't literally mean John was Elijah!

TenQ:

It is simple to. comprehend sir!
1. Up to the time of Christ, did Elijah die?
2. If he did, where was his body or grave?

If death is the separation of the union between a person's Body and Soul, can one truly say that Elijah died?
3. If there was no death, can their be reincarnation?

All of you want to teach but lack understanding on deep spiritual matters. What happened to Ejijah, Enoch etc is Immortality. They recieved the gift of which is the only way you can meet God. It happens at the end of every age. Those who recieve it ascend and at the stargate their body is changed. You can't enter with your earthly body. Yoo become like them there - SPIRITS.

When they have mission on earth they have to Reincarnate or take a body or Reborn into earth by a woman. When you become an immortal you don't die. You come to earth via a woman which is Reincarnation and when you finish you ascend out eg Enoch, Elijah, Christ. This is beyond what you know. Simple. Learn

MaxInDHouse:


Let's hear from the horses mouth!

This is the witness John gave when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him: “Who are you?” And he admitted it and did not deny it, saying: “I am not the Christ.” And they asked him: “What, then? Are you E·liʹjah?” He replied: “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered: “NO" John 1:19-21

John the baptist declared that he is NOT Elijah so if Jesus use comparisons regarding the manner of person John was that doesn't literally mean John was Elijah!

Let FRANCISTOWN lie against John the Baptist

bobestman:

What happened to Ejijah, Enoch etc is Immortality. They recieved the gift of which is the only way you can meet God.

As descendants of Adam no human qualifies to receive immorality:

None of (humans) can ever redeem a brother Or give to God a ransom for him, (The ransom price for their life is so precious That it is always beyond their reach); That he should live forever and not see the pit.  He sees that even wise people die; The stupid and the unreasoning perish together, And they must leave their wealth to others. Their inner wish is that their houses will last forever, Their tents to generation after generation. They have named their estates after themselves. But man, although honored, will not remain; He is no better than the beasts that perish Psalms 49:7-12

So no human is qualified for immortality no matter how good, nice or religious they can be that's why mankind needs a MESSIAH or one who has been anointed to redeem us!

Aemmyjah:

Let FRANCISTOWN lie against John the Baptist

The halfbaked knowledge he trashed is what he wants to use now against the truth!

MaxInDHouse:


Let's hear from the horses mouth!

This is the witness John gave when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him: “Who are you?” And he admitted it and did not deny it, saying: “I am not the Christ.” And they asked him: “What, then? Are you E·liʹjah?” He replied: “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered: “NO" John 1:19-21

John the baptist declared that he is NOT Elijah so if Jesus use comparisons regarding the manner of person John was that doesn't literally mean John was Elijah!

Lol in Reincarnation you have no knowledge of who you are in the past unless it is revealed to you or a priest tell you. John has no knowledge of it but the messiah a great priest said it. He didn't compare anything but stated it clearly. And if you watch clearly John and Elijah walked in the same path for in reincarnation it is same path and spirit. I can't convince you ppl but can only help you know what is hidden from you all

MaxInDHouse:


As descendants of Adam no human qualifies to receive immorality:

None of (humans) can ever redeem a brother Or give to God a ransom for him, (The ransom price for their life is so precious That it is always beyond their reach); That he should live forever and not see the pit.  He sees that even wise people die; The stupid and the unreasoning perish together, And they must leave their wealth to others. Their inner wish is that their houses will last forever, Their tents to generation after generation. They have named their estates after themselves. But man, although honored, will not remain; He is no better than the beasts that perish Psalms 49:7-12

So no human is qualified for immortality no matter how good, nice or religious they can be that's why mankind needs a MESSIAH or one who has been anointed to redeem us!

Oga no dey put mouth 4 watin you no sabi.

MaxInDHouse:


They all died before the next generation after their lifetime and they are all in their graves till today. Enoch, Melchizedek and Elijah are part of Adam's descendants that INHERITED SIN and DEATH from Adam so they can't live twice.

As for those resurrected they never lived twice going by your thinking because their age never reduced rather they continue living right from the age they died before they were miraculously brought back to life so it is still once they lived not twice.

Take for instance someone who went into a comma and has been considered dead clinically if by any chance he is revived does he start all over from childhood?
NO!
So as long as they continued growing older till they died means they only lived once not twice!

I'm not talking about coma.Leave coma alone. I'm talking about dying. Coma is different from dying.
Mind you, those ones who were risen from the dead did not continue living rather the right word is they lived AGAIN.

They simply tasted death once. They died , I mean DIED.

There is no other way around it: They died once and they died again. Making it twice.
That in itself already defiled Paul's logic of dying once.

Enoch and Elijah were caught up to heaven. The bible was silent about how Melchizedek went on.

I'm not talking about living twice, I'm talking about dying twice. This is simple English

FRANCISTOWN:
@Explore2xmore
@FxMasterz
@SIRTee15
@MightySparrow
@MaxInDHouse

I'll be speaking according to the bible.
John the Baptist was infact the reincarnation of Elijah.
Let's walk thru the bible together.
What happens when a man dies?
His earthly body returns back to the ground.
It is impossible to ascend into heaven with your earthly body.
For God himself said this to the first man who inherited death.

In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the earth, out of which thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and into dust thou shalt return. Gen 3:19

When Enoch was taken up to heaven, he was not taken with his earthly body, likewise Elijah

Apostle Paul better explained this in

Phil3: 21 He will take our weak mortal bodies and change them into glorious bodies like his own, using the same power with which he will bring everything under his control.

The earthly body cannot survive in heaven.
So Enoch and Elijah must have been given a new body just as Paul explained.

Now about reincarnation.
See what the dictionary says:
•A rebirth of a soul, in a physical life form, such as a body.
Since Elijah was taken into heaven without his earthly body. It is reasonable to say he was a soul.
Now in Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

John was the only prophet that was sent just before Jesus.

Even Jesus confirmed that indeed John the Baptist was a prophet in Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist...

Luke 1:17 "And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah..."

Simply put, the spirit of Elijah in a new earthly body.
And Jesus really said it clearly in

Mat 11:14:
"And if you will receive it, this is Elijah, which was for to come."

Mat 17:11-13:
"And Jesus answered and said to them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say to you, That Elijah is come already, and they knew him not, but have done to him whatever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spoke to them of John the Baptist."

When Elijah was taken to heaven, he was given a different body, so, he had to enter a new earthly body which can only happen by birth. Hence, reincarnation

Thank you for your responses. I hope to get better clarity soon. More so that Elijah is also prophesied to come again at the end of the world. In the book of Revelation, the two witnesses are described .

Revelation 11:3–12 is a description of two individuals who will help accomplish God’s work during the tribulation: “I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth. Is it that the text is improperly understood? If Elijah is to be one of these two, conclusively he has physically died as John the Baptist who was beheaded?

Then in Malachi it is not stated explicitly that a kindred spirit will come before Jesus.

Explore2xmore:
There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment

Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14.

Where was Elijah said to have come?

Then he is also said to come again at the end of the world.


Attn: Fxmasterz,SirTee15,Malcom1x,Maximdhouse,Mightysparrow,MrPrevailer,Tenq and all who can shed light and knowledge about this.

our ancestors who had no bible or heard about Jesus knew better than a modern christian. Was Jesus not the 2nd Adam? Was John the baptist not Elijah?

MaxInDHouse:


Let's hear from the horses mouth!

This is the witness John gave when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him: “Who are you?” And he admitted it and did not deny it, saying: “I am not the Christ.” And they asked him: “What, then? Are you E·liʹjah?” He replied: “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered: “NO" John 1:19-21

John the baptist declared that he is NOT Elijah so if Jesus use comparisons regarding the manner of person John was that doesn't literally mean John was Elijah!

What did John know? Was he supposed to know that he was the spirit of Elijah?

Jeremiah 1: 5 Yhwh was saying to him that "before I formed you in your mother's womb, I knew thee"
This means Jeremiah was existing somewhere before he was born, yet he couldn't remember anything when he was born.
Even Jesus had to read the scriptures to find out about himself and what he was to do (Though he already knew everything before coming to the earth)
Yet when he came to earth, he had to read about himself and the spirit had to keep telling him things.

John the Baptist was no different, he was as disoriented.
So it was normal for John to say he was not Elijah, someone who didn't even know the Jesus he came to forerun. Every child who comes into this world comes with a blank memory.
Jesus himself said. John the Baptist was Elias the prophet so, what are you on about?

Kobojunkie:
Your understanding of Scripture is obviously flawed Op.

Elijah, whom you point to there, was of the Old Covenant Law of Moses, a Covenant separate and different from that which is Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant, and Law in the Kingdom of God. So, right off you are attempting to apply that which works in the Old Covenant in the New Covenant. Jesus Christ did hint at this when He suggested that even John, the last of the Old Covenant prophets, was no greater than the least in the Kingdom of God, clearly revealing that that which applied to the Old has no place in the New.

In the New Covenant, Jesus Christ offered everyone of the blood of Israel who would become citizens of the Kingdom of God, Eternal Life for free right from the gate(Narrow and Broad gates). His Covenant makes clear that after death would come judgment for all the sheep and goats in His Kingdom at a time in the future after He returns- Matthew 25 vs 31 - 25 & John 5 vs 19 - 29. So what use would reincarnation serve those who have Eternal Life in this life?

You definitely know there is the connection as there are prophesies from the old testament about things in the new testament.

Reference to the laws and Torah of Moses too.

Then what use is the the Transfiguration if the books and times are not related?

MaxInDHouse:

The halfbaked knowledge he trashed is what he wants to use now against the truth!

That's so rich coming from someone who reads the bible upside down

bobestman:

All of you want to teach but lack understanding on deep spiritual matters. What happened to Ejijah, Enoch etc is Immortality. They recieved the gift of which is the only way you can meet God. It happens at the end of every age. Those who recieve it ascend and at the stargate their body is changed. You can't enter with your earthly body. Yoo become like them there - SPIRITS.

When they have mission on earth they have to Reincarnate or take a body or Reborn into earth by a woman. When you become an immortal you don't die. You come to earth via a woman which is Reincarnation and when you finish you ascend out eg Enoch, Elijah, Christ. This is beyond what you know. Simple. Learn

King James Version
1 Timothy 6:16
Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Jesus is the only one having immortality

bobestman:

Lol in Reincarnation you have no knowledge of who you are in the past unless it is revealed to you or a priest tell you. John has no knowledge of it but the messiah a great priest said it. He didn't compare anything but stated it clearly. And if you watch clearly John and Elijah walked in the same path for in reincarnation it is same path and spirit. I can't convince you ppl but can only help you know what is hidden from you all

So a prophet of God like John who knew the word of God doesn't know he was Elijah in his past life shey?

bobestman:

Oga no dey put mouth 4 watin you no sabi.

Prove you sabi not just arguing but with evidence that's undeniable!

FRANCISTOWN:

I'm not talking about coma.Leave coma alone.

Jesus likens death to comma so it's the same thing only the ability to revive can save both of them!

FRANCISTOWN:

What did John know? Was he supposed to know that he was the spirit of Elijah?

YES! He is God's greatest prophet according to Jesus of Nazareth!

FRANCISTOWN:

That's so rich coming from someone who reads the bible upside down

You read it downside up yet you trashed it's knowledge!