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Eko ROW!: Benin People ‘owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them—erelu Abiola / Benin People Found Lagos — Oba of Benin / Oba of Lagos Was Cut off from the people- Erelu Abiola Dosunmu. (2) (3) (4)

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by coleon(m): 7:11am On Dec 04, 2023
anonymous1759:


I Stan with you , even the name Oba is “Yoruba”
If Benin truly found Lagos you’ll still see traces of Benin legacies in Lagos, but that’s not the case . Just as British foot print will always be on it’s colonies . Even in America you’ll still see British foot print some of their Towns and street are British names .
Everybody wants to trend but it’s better to use your basic Analogy to dissect.
Actually, there's benin footprint in Lagos it's just that people are blinded tribally to see it.
The name eko itself is a benin word, almost all the locations on the island today are derived from benin word including the oba palace (iga idungaran) . If you also look at the royal isignia of Lagos you will notice the cross swords which are renowned as the sign of the benin empire.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by cedricksly: 7:59am On Dec 04, 2023
Supremos:


It seems a lot of people knows the truth
they know, but they like to argue just to protect their pride. It is people like ffk and other young people that have a thing to say about it that is even funny.... Benin empire is one of the Oldest empire in Africa. It dated back to the days of the OGISOs and centuries later The first Oba(Eweka)

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Christistruth00: 8:05am On Dec 04, 2023
itsene:


You are scared of standing alone so you are trying to co-opt other ethnic groups around to help you. What a coward .
You and several others on this forum are just swinging in all directions, hoping something, just something will stick. Well, it's NOT working.
The Erelu delivered a sucker punch and you incorrigibles are reeling .


Erelu delivered nothing

Oba Of Lagos is Ijesha
the Land on Which his Palace Sits belongs to the Awori Yoruba' Aromire family

Ologun Kutere the son of Princess Erelu Kuti' was Ijesha and all Lagos Obas descended from him
descended from him


Lagos is Yorubaland

Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by class0247: 8:15am On Dec 04, 2023
It’s the people from Osun, Ogun etc that are arguing. We the real indegenes know our history and Bini found and named Eko before other part of now Lagos was created


https://punchng.com/bini-not-yoruba-are-original-owners-of-lagos-ajayi-bembe/?amp

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by class0247: 8:17am On Dec 04, 2023
cedricksly:
they know, but they like to argue just to protect their pride. It is people like ffk and other young people that have a thing to say about it that is even funny.... Benin empire is one of the Oldest empire in Africa. It dated back to the days of the OGISOs and centuries later The first Oba(Eweka)




https://punchng.com/bini-not-yoruba-are-original-owners-of-lagos-ajayi-bembe/?amp

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by jaxxy(m): 8:20am On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth00:



Everyone knows that Isale Eko was a Slave Trading Post
Why do you think the British attacked it?


On top of that Oba Of Lagos is actually a Baale who was elevated to an Oba Post

Olofin of Isheri is the highest Awori Oba with a Proper Ife Crown which all other Yoruba Obas acknowledge and Respect because they are real Obas and not Business ones

Even the Oloto of Otto who owns and ruled Iddo Island has a Proper Ife Crown

Oba of Lagos was still called Eleko till around 1950s

Lol u are avoiding the truth and it is obvious.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Shattuck(m): 8:25am On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth03:


That Lagos is Yorubaland is beyond Contention


Document from sir alfred moloney
British Colonial Governor of Lagos
Confirming Lagos is Yorubaland in 1890
a colonial gov in 1890 is your source of history that happened of over 300 years even before his fore fathers were born 😂😂

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by orisa37: 8:36am On Dec 04, 2023
EKITI DISCOVERED EKO.
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by orisa37: 8:38am On Dec 04, 2023
EKITI DISCOVERED EKO. EDO IS FROM ONDO.
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Christistruth00: 9:06am On Dec 04, 2023
jaxxy:


Lol u are avoiding the truth and it is obvious.

The Truth has been dealt with

Lagos is Yorubaland 100%

That is the Truth you are Trying to hide from
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Christistruth00: 9:08am On Dec 04, 2023
Shattuck:
a colonial gov in 1890 is your source of history that happened of over 300 years even before his fore fathers were born 😂😂


Let us tell you the Pre Oduduwa History of Lagos when Benin was not on anyone's Radar Screen

moba Yorubas were settled in moba Lagos well before the 9th Century before Oduduwa whose Son Oranmiyan established the Benin Throne and kingdom was Born
They are currently classified with the Awori people but we're in Lagos many Centuries earlier

In the 10th Century when the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha fetched from the Lagos Sea Water to cure Oduduwa's blindness there were already moba Yorubas. In Lagos and he spent 2 months with them

The idol Worshippers Olokun diety was actually a moba King called Seniade that ruled from an Island off the coast of Lagos that has now been Submerged by the Sea.

Some of the moba migrated to Ijebuland and the moba built the UNESCO world heritage 9th Century Eredo Wall near Ijebu and their kingdom included many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

They have now been included with the Awori people but we're actually the Original Inhabitants of Lagos and were in Lagos Centuries before Oduduwa was Born

The Oore of Otun Ekiti migrated from moba in Lagos and is descended from the moba Kings including Seniade

moba is near Victoria Island and their crown predates Oduduwa's own


Yorubas forefathers might not have been great at Technology but God Almighty definitely gave them Prodigious History Art and Music
All Glory be to God Almighty







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7SXJzGuLM?si=r9vlK6L3Z4NEXAEn

Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by jaxxy(m): 9:09am On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth00:


The Truth has been dealt with

Lagos is Yorubaland 100%

That is the Truth you are Trying to hide from

That's ur narrative we understand. The truth is much different.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Christistruth00: 9:11am On Dec 04, 2023
jaxxy:


That's ur narrative we understand. The truth is much different.


That is not our Narrative

That is the Truth

Lagos is Yorubaland 100%

We even beg you to refuse to pay your Land Rent to your Yoruba Awori landlords since they are the Yoruba Owners of Lagos
so they can quickly reclaim their land from you with full Court backing
You are free to carry your Property off their Land

Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by pacespot(m): 10:08am On Dec 04, 2023
Interesting piece
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Babinski: 10:28am On Dec 04, 2023
Supremos:


It seems a lot of people knows the truth

There are clear elements of misinformation and misunderstanding in Erelu Abiola Dosunmu's statements:

1. That a territory pays tribute to you does not expressly mean you own the territory. In several places in Africa, you pay tribute at times to avoid wars, raiding and invasion. Villages paying tributes to Boko Haram and Bandits to farm and harvest produce are clearly not owned by the tribute collectors.

In olden days Africa, most times it is like a jungle and the stronger person can compel you to pay tribute to avoid problems from him. It doesn't mean he owns you and most times doesn't even bother to establish any administrative post in your village or territory. You simply carry the tributes to him at designated times. That is the case between Benin and Lagos. There was no record of a conquest and Benin people did not "found" Lagos by any stretch of imagination.

2. All Oba of Lagos trace their lineage to Ashipa who was a War Captain of the Oba of Benin. The first Oba of Lagos, Oba Ado was the son of Ashipa. Ashipa has been established to have been a local Awori who existed around 1570 to 1630. It is therefore an undisputed fact that the Benin met the Awori in Lagos and had some relationship with them to warrant an Awori (Ashipa) being a War Captain of the Oba of Benin.

3. It is without doubt that the Benin Kingdom itself (1180–1897), which came after the Igodomido era, was headed by an Oba that came from Ile Ife and was a Yoruba. All Oba of Benin since that are seen as his descendants and consequently Yoruba by origin. It is perhaps this history and relationship that allowed the Oba of Benin to have Ashipa, an Awori (a Yoruba sub-group that migrated from Ile Ife) as a War Captain and which allowed the Oba of Benin to grant Ashipa the trust and permission to establish a Royal lineage in Eko (Lagos).

4. For those speaking about conquest, how do you conquer a people with one of their sons as your War Captain and also permit him to establish a Royal lineage in the territory and be confident their will be no revolt? The Oba of Benin clearly saw Ashipa as being of same root stock (Yoruba) to even trust and elevate him as War Captain in the first instance and same extended to allowing him to "rule" over his Awori clan who are also ethnically Yoruba. It was also that relationship that allowed Obas of Benin to give daughters in marriage to the Obas of Eko (Lagos). If you conquer a people and establish a dynasty over them in Africa, your first choice is to follow a paternal rather than maternal lineage. It is also noteworthy that there is no record of a single blood being shed in the claimed "conquest" of Lagos by the Benin Kingdom in a War Party led by a son of the Aworis who were purportedly being conquered.

5. Prince Ado who became first Oba of Eko (Lagos) was actually a son of Ashipa born of a Benin woman (possibly a daughter or relative of Oba of Benin) and not a SON of Oba of Benin.

6. It is not a coincidence that all the Obas in Lagos from Iduganran (base of Oba of Eko and descendants of Ashipa) to Epe, Iba, Ikorodu, etc are all Awori people.

There is no doubt that Lagos was founded and settled by the Awori people and no amount of revisionist history has been able to overcome that.
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by AutomaticMotors: 10:38am On Dec 04, 2023
AreaFada2:

Benin had coastal territories. In 1480 AD, Oba Olua of Benin sent his son Prince Iginuwa to become Ogiamie in what is now Ewere/Warri.

That new Dukedom was a way to extend Benin hegemony. Benin had access to Ohimiwinhin (River Niger), Benin River, etc. The entire Bight of Benin in fact by the reign of Oba Orhogbua (1550-1558). Portuguese accompanied (documented) Oba Orhogbua to Lagos, Ijebu Waterside, etc, He was a sailor trained in Portugal as a Prince. Benin was first officially called a City in 1553 by the Europeans during his reign. Because it compared admirably with the few places with "City Status" in the world at that time.

Benin City and capital of Benin Empire had no immediate Port but Ughoton/Gwatto Port was only tens of kilometres away. Remember Europeans used to dock at Gwatto Port and walk to Benin City.

Erelu is descended from Eleko Dosunmu, who Oba of Benin opposed in favour of deposed Eleko Kosoko. She could have denied Benin initial ownership of Eko/Lagos but still decided to stick with the truth. Simly because it is the truth.

Gregyboy
AutomaticMotors

It always brings me immerse joy whenever I see your replies on nairaland!! May God and our ancestors keep you safe for us Sir!

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by jaxxy(m): 11:39am On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth00:



That is not our Narrative

That is the Truth

Lagos is Yorubaland 100%

We even beg you to refuse to pay your Land Rent to your Yoruba Awori landlords since they are the Yoruba Owners of Lagos
so they can quickly reclaim their land from you with full Court backing
You are free to carry your Property off their Land

Aslong as it is lawful it is good. We must be fair, just and law abiding.

However u cannot threaten any Nigerian citizen living peacefully and lawfully anywhere in the country.

I am not against yorubas. infact half of my family is yoruba but I am a firm believe in seeking the truth objectively..

I'm not bias against anyone. The truth does not need to be distorted or embelished to please anyone.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Mayeldah(m): 11:40am On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth00:



Lamurudu who the Ife People also called Ora

And Oduduwa was born at Oke Ora East of Ife but in Ife Metropolis

His people were related to both the Gobir and Kanuri People

Tot history said he fell down from the sky?
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 12:14pm On Dec 04, 2023
Enugurangers:

The truth is the Yoruba >>>>>>Benin..
Yorubas expanded all the way from Ife to all over west Africa. Benin instead shrunk and never expanded. Benin language is only spoken in Benin, they worship Yoruba gods too. Their royal line was started by a Yoruba man. They met Aworis all over Lagos. The tiny region they occupied for a while in Lagos is an extremely tiny faction that they also could not hold for long. Ashipa is a Yoruba man.

No amount of revisionist will alter the truth.

Ife found Benin in your dream

https://www.nairaland.com/7683383/another-reason-why-benin-ife


https://www.nairaland.com/7928662/yorubas-too-dey-lie-history#127271150
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 12:18pm On Dec 04, 2023
Supremos:
And you didn't see the owned in parenthesis?.

By the way, that's how vanguard reported.

Apparently you didn't read the interview, you're only here to run around.

The woman said it's not all parts of Lagos.

She said she's of Benin lineage.

The owned is in parenthesis.
Rest. Ewu

It's all part, benin found in lagos boss

The influence was only dominant in lagos island

My screenshot badary to island and even ijebu was under Benin control

Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Fearyourcreator: 12:24pm On Dec 04, 2023
SharingIsLife:

Mention any Igbo that has carried it on his head or you go drink water.
You
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Fearyourcreator: 12:25pm On Dec 04, 2023
Supremos:


Erelu Kuti IV of Lagos, Erelu Abiola Dosunmu, a direct descendant of the progenitors of Lagos kingship, is not a bonafide aboriginal lagosian?. You, who are you please?. She told you her fore father's were of Benin descent and that Aworis migrated from Ife, and were paying Royalty to the Benin kingdom.

What are you on? 😂
Na igbos like this post ... They know themselves, eyin werey
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Fearyourcreator: 12:29pm On Dec 04, 2023
Beremx:
Lemme book space for Askari LegendHero to come cry on this thread.

Hehehehe this matter go long o!

The real owners of Lagos are not disputing the Oba of Benin. When the speak, they speak with facts
Another omoyibo
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Fearyourcreator: 12:33pm On Dec 04, 2023
bjdon:

We are talking about things that happened 100's of years ago. Nobody is saying that the Binis own Lagos today. Think of it like this, the British founded many nations as part of the British Empire, does that mean Britain owns those places today? Did Britain not found Nigeria? Were not already people living in this land mass called Nigeira? Yet the British took charge and made all the different kingdoms and Emmirates pay homage to them and created a New country 'Nigeria'. Today how many British people own houses in Lagos?
We should learn to understand history without emotion.
Go and correct your Igbo friends, you know what meant... Tell them this not yorubas
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Fearyourcreator: 12:33pm On Dec 04, 2023
Pakute:

Even your thread says "Benin owned Lagos", not "some part". why are you twisting the narrative?, is your brain normal?
You dey mind am
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Fearyourcreator: 12:35pm On Dec 04, 2023
Supremos:
Stop telling lies as it please you. I'm neither Yoruba nor Benin, but I think this issue of Yoruba starting Benin Royal lineage has been over discussed and Benin people refuted that claim
But make Lagos accept benin own... Nawa ooo...
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Fearyourcreator: 12:49pm On Dec 04, 2023
creativehubb:
Those who come from other places like Osun, Illorin, Ibadan... instead of going to develop their ancestral states, they are claiming Lagos, Lagos built by FG money, south south oil money, Benin empire, British, and others.

Fulanis have taken over illorin, Emir has instituted Sharia law, yet them no go save illorin, na Lagos developed by FG and Niger Delta oil money dem wan claim. Mad people.

These idiots don't even have one room in Lagos grin
Koni dafun yin se... E no go better for south south oil ... Eni sorire papo... Aiye yin ma baje ni... So farming in the west didn't do anything before oil ... Eni sorire.... Things farming did oil never do am...

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Christistruth00: 12:53pm On Dec 04, 2023
cheesy

gregyboy:


It's all part, benin found in lagos boss

The influence was only dominant in lagos island

My screenshot badary to island and even ijebu was under Benin control


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6hrKwjpOJ8?si=W-kEYV724MFLZ_no

Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 12:55pm On Dec 04, 2023
Supremos:
Stop telling lies as it please you. I'm neither Yoruba nor Benin, but I think this issue of Yoruba starting Benin Royal lineage has been over discussed and Benin people refuted that claim


Thank you

They always use the false history to massage their ego after a Benin history humiliating them pops up

It's simple after the oba made the statement on how lagos belongs to Benin in the visitation he could have just said we all are yorubas and from oduduwa if he indeed by into such ideology

Read this when you can

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware

Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Christistruth00: 12:58pm On Dec 04, 2023
gregyboy:



Thank you

They always use the false history to massage their ego after a Benin history humiliating them pops up

It's simple after the oba made the statement on how lagos belongs to Benin in the visitation he could have just said we all are yorubas and from oduduwa if he indeed by into such ideology

Read this when you can

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware







Oduduwa was the first Oba of the 2nd dynasty of Ife Kings


grin

If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of Benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished Benin Palace Praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Fearyourcreator: 12:58pm On Dec 04, 2023
greggng:
Given the controversy surrounding the ownship of lagos ...is clear some igbos were right ...lagos is indeed a land of migrants ...and as such is no man's land . One vital question I want a responsible yoruba person on this forum to answer me is ...why were all oba of yoruba buried in Benin city except one.? If indeed Benin people didn't not found lagos ..why were they not buried in awori or any other yoruba land. They more we dig this matter the more alot is being exposed ...it won't help the yorubas on future especially those who think lagos is there birth right
Nigeria needs divide igbos from it ... If ss wan follow una make them dey go abeg.... This last election really really open una yansh
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Christistruth00: 1:01pm On Dec 04, 2023
Apart from the fact that the Oba Of Lagos is of Ijesha lineage since

Ologun Kutere who was Ijesha like his father Alagba who was Princess Erelu Kuti's Husband

It was even ife that founded benin

cool.Yes!!

ife founded benin!! Including the Ogiso dynasty!!!


Obagodo the first Ogiso that founded Igodomigodo Kingdom that is now benin was an ife man
Igodomigodo is now benin


Ogiso Obagodo founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from ife
Obagodo was Yoruba for Oba Igodo

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