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Re: Why I Didn’t Stop Oba Olaoye From Contesting For Soun Stool — Adeboye by Dsimmer: 1:18pm On Jan 14
Dsimmer:
IFA only needs an enlightened person to interpret it from the enlightened perspective and not mundane perspective.

For example, Sango as an Orisha could just mean taking up one of Sango's numerous acts such as electrical engineering, commerce and industrialization, pilot, entertainment arts etc, not making sacrifices to the said Orisha etc😂. In fact, I know someone who always says Obatala is the Orisha of his family for example. This said person is an architect. Architect is one of Obatala's symbols which is about visual art, creative art, electricity, biochemical engineering etc, however if this person had sat on his laurel and refused to have an education or learned, he wouldn't have become one or whatever occupation he wanted to be, even if he made several ebo sacrifices if we're to take these ebo sacrifice literally. Lol. So rather than interpret Ifa from the mundane perspective of it, it should rather be interpreted from an enlightened perspective.

Speaking of ebo sacrifice, when Ifa talks about ebo/etutu sacrifice for ori for example, what are the ingredients for this ebo sacrifice? A food which contains carbohydrate, protein, oil etc in a dish. Aren't this nutrition in a dish? 🤓 I mean there is carbohydrate, protein etc in a dish. This is simple balanced diet or nutrition 💤! So IFA is simply saying one has to feed oneself with a balanced diet/nutrition which acts as immunity against sickness and disease. It's also related to agriculture/farming. Because one has to continue to produce these things in order to feed in the first place. So this is more or less improving the society for the better on the long run by practicing agriculture/farming for more food supply for the communities. Or when IFA talks about goats, pigs, sheeps etc as sacrifices, this is an avenue for one to build modern ranches for livestocks to buttress more food supply which will also improve the society. So, all these improve the society for the better on the long run.

Or when IFA states oil as a sacrifice to Ogun. Let's start with what Ogun represent in the first place. Ogun is an Orisha which also represents metallurgy, mechanical engineering and chemical engineering. As far as I know, all mechanical engines need lubricant (oil) to function. This is technological innovation idea which IFA is simply dishing out. IFA dishes out all these innovative ideas on a platter of gold. That's aside the mathematics which includes algebra, geomantic etc entailed in IFA. So IFA itself represent science, innovation, creativity etc, aside entailing the history of Yoruba race.

Just as these Orishas have their meanings, so are also the ebo sacrifices which also have their own meanings. So people shouldn't take all these literally but should rather be enlightened by it. In fact, these ebo sacrifice can rather be translated into hardwork. For example, a student who wants to become brilliant has to study of course. That's the "hard work" sacrifice. Hard work is also defending one's community against insecurity⚡..

Also organizations such as government and non governmental bodies (NGO) should do well to provide more facilities for the society such as roads, healthcare/hospitals, security, schools etc. Take the missionaries for example who built Roads, hospitals/healthcare facilities, School facilities etc..

Also note that just like Olodumare has no idol/shrine, Orunmila has no idol/shrine too. And it's this Orunmila role which Ela/Jewesun took over, which has always been Ela's role from the beginning of the world according to IFA. So Ela/Jewesun is also known as Orunmila. So, Ela/Jewesun has no idol/shrine. Ela/Jewesun is the only begotten child of Olodumare, the lamb and the word of Olodumare according to IFA. This isn't Orishas though. It is rather supreme Force. Olodumare/Olorun/Oluwa is the only one supreme almighty creator and his only one begotten child Ela/Jewesun/Oluwa. Both have always been present before the universe according to IFA and are one. Olodumare, the almighty creator and his Word (Ela/Jewesun) which is also his only begotten child and the Lamb. IFA is indeed deeply mysterious ☄️

Of course, I'm not opposed to having modern monuments for the Orishas. Monuments for the Orishas to act as symbols of science and creative ideas such as Obatala, Oduduwa, Olokun, Yemaja, Osun, Sango, Oya, Ogun, Egungun, Oko, Ayao, Oranmiyan, Ayangalu, Aja, Osoosi, Osanyin etc and celebrating the festivals of isese festival, egungun festival, eyo festival etc. The Orishas are also part of Yoruba history coupled with entailing innovation, science and creative ideas 💤💤.. Take for instance, the Whites have got Halloween for example etc.

There's also Oro festival which is more or less today's curfew meant to calm things in communities and also for the kings to plan out things with the chiefs without disturbance. Of course, severe punishments are given to those who flout the rules and trespass.

Another is "gbere sisi" for "giri" (incision for shock) which is simply acupuncture which is also practiced among the Asian traditional healthcare. It's simply when a technical trained healthcare personnel makes an incision at the median energetic line on a body which had gone into a shock mode to ensure blood can circulate around the body or removal of the clotted blood because the body tends to go into shock (giri) when there's little circulation of blood or blockage of flow. So all these are science which should now take the modern form. For example, modern IFA temple clinics can be built with Modern technological equipped healthcare facilities, just like the Asians. Also the knowledge on medicinal plants, roots and barks can be in such temples with such clinics also acting as medicinal plant seed banks. Likewise knowledge on history, enlightenment and mathematics/physics in the IFA temple.

However, the ebo sacrifices can be interpreted better, and not the old interpretation of it. And note that Jewesun/Ela already abolished all literal ebo sacrifice which includes ose eyonu this and ose eyonu that blah blah blah. There's nothing like ose eyonu blah blah blah to begin with. Lol. As a matter of fact, Jewesun/Ela already took over every form of ebo sacrifice. IFA is an enlightenment & modern science which entails science, technology, creativity etc hence people should see it from the modern perspectives and interpret as such.

As a matter of fact, modern aesthetic IFA temples with modern equipped clinics can be built in the capital state while all the Onifa & Iyanifa in the state register under the clinic. This is the best way to checkmate the useless Idiots practicing nonsensical money ritual for example which aren't part of IFA to begin with.

Anyways, as I already said, IFA needs an enlightened person who won't interpret it from the mundane perspective but an enlightened perspective of it. As a matter of fact, when Ela/Jewesun took over the Orunmila role, he elevated it to a Chief high priest role hence the interpretation of IFA should now take a higher wisdom dimension level than what it used to be✨

Meanwhile, any religion which isn't about innovation and creativity had better be trashed!

Speaking of nutrition, of course it's not an avenue for gluttony which is of no benefit to the body. However, the idea is to ensure nutrition is readily available for the community and nation at large by engaging more in farming/agriculture to produce more food. Another example is oil acting as a lubricant for mechanical engines (which is what Ogun represent). Ifa actually says oil "relieves" Ogun. This is actually a direct "open let out" by Ifa, considering Ifa likes to speak in coded form 😂

Also, traditional acupuncture (gbere sisi) is also related to today's syringe injection⚡

In addition, there's also an orisha for agriculture which is Oko which represents farming/Agriculture💤

That being said, any religion which isn't about innovative and creative enlightenment should better fvck off. Don't come and compound the problem of Africans with nonsense! Africans have always had the truth with them from time memorial.
Re: Why I Didn’t Stop Oba Olaoye From Contesting For Soun Stool — Adeboye by Dsimmer: 2:03pm On Jan 16
Dsimmer:


Speaking of nutrition, of course it's not an avenue for gluttony which is of no benefit to the body. However, the idea is to ensure nutrition is readily available for the community and nation at large by engaging more in farming/agriculture to produce more food. Another example is oil acting as a lubricant for mechanical engines (which is what Ogun represent). Ifa actually says oil "relieves" Ogun. This is actually a direct "open let out" by Ifa, considering Ifa likes to speak in coded form 😂

Also, traditional acupuncture (gbere sisi) is also related to today's syringe injection ⚡

In addition, there's an orisha for agriculture which is Oko which represents farming/Agriculture 💤

That being said, any religion which isn't about innovative and creative enlightenment should better fvck off. Don't come and compound the problem of Africans with nonsense! Africans have always had the truth with them from time memorial.


As I already highlighted, the ebo sacrifice for orishas can be interpreted better from an enlightened perspective, even as the Orisha represents symbols of science, innovative and creativity.

In fact, apart from the fact that Jewesun/Ela (the Lamb) already abolished such literal mundane ebo sacrifice, IFA itself entails science, innovation and creativity etc, aside entailing the history of Yoruba race hence IFA should always be viewed from the modern perspective and interpreted as such. I also know IFA have the knowledge of both the good and the bad. Point is Human isn't stupid but intelligent enough to know what's good and the truth is it's good to do good which is IFA's watchword. As a matter of fact, Human sacrifice for money ritual nonsense isn't part of IFA and any useless idiot doing such should be dealt with.
Re: Why I Didn’t Stop Oba Olaoye From Contesting For Soun Stool — Adeboye by Dsimmer: 11:26pm On Jan 16
Dsimmer:


As I already highlighted, the ebo sacrifice for orishas can be interpreted better from an enlightened perspective, even as the Orisha represents symbols of science, innovative and creativity.

In fact, apart from the fact that Jewesun/Ela (the Lamb) already abolished such literal mundane ebo sacrifice, IFA itself entails science, innovation and creativity etc, aside entailing the history of Yoruba race hence IFA should always be viewed from the modern perspective and interpreted as such. I also know IFA have the knowledge of both the good and the bad. Point is Human isn't stupid but intelligent enough to know what's good and the truth is it's good to do good which is IFA's watchword. As a matter of fact, Human sacrifice for money ritual nonsense isn't part of IFA and any useless idiot doing such should be dealt with.

Let me also add that I also realize that some people corrupt Yoruba religion with some strange incorporation, such as, osole black magic blah blah blah etc. Lol. There's no Odu for such nonsense as a matter of fact. 😂

As a matter of fact, there's no magic, jazz or spell in Yoruba religion. Lol. All these Ose eyonu blah blah blah, Osole blah blah blah, Oso blah blah blah are all sorts of nonsense which aren't part of IFA. Lol. Also, there's nothing like money ritual in IFA. Same way there's nothing like human sacrifice in IFA. All these nonsense are non beneficial to anyone. These are examples of the bad which IFA talks about.

IFA is all about innovation, science which includes agriculture and creativity, aside history. What's required is to build on such innovative & creative knowledge and develop it further to make into technical realities. For example, IFA talks about agriculture, then practice it to make into a reality, that is, mechanised farming and agro industries. And so-on.

As a matter of fact, all the Orishas in IFA represent innovative & creative ideas as a matter of fact, so also is the ebo/etutu which also represent innovative and creative ideas. Point is it's High time IFA is interpreted from an enlightened modern perspective!

And note, there's only one almighty God called Olodumare and his only begotten child which is his word called Ela/Jewesun (the lamb). This is the supreme force. No need taking one mundane literal ebo sacrifice to an orisha or worshipping moulded object or stone. Lol.

Of course I'm not opposed to having aesthetic monument designs for these orishas to represent symbols of innovative and creative ideas and also celebrating isese festival, egungun festival, eyo festival etc which are part of Yoruba history of course. In fact, it was the beautiful creative design fashion of Egungun which also include Eyo festival (Adamo Orisha) etc which later birthed the creative idea of Yoruba's Agbada design which then got exported to other West African areas and Subsaharan through trading. This was what the early writers wrote about the Agbada design made in Eyo (Oyo) when Robert Noris wrote about the Africans as far back in 1772 while saying the aristocrats in Africans wore the fabric designs which were made in Eyo (Oyo).

Point is people should know these orishas represent creative ideas in the first place, even as they were also beings. Beautiful ideas such as, Agriculture and agro industries (Oko), technology and industrialization (Ogun, Oya, Ayao etc), Music and Musical instruments (Ayan galu), Fashion (Egungun), Civilization & industrialization (Sango, Obatala, Oduduwa) and so-on. High time such innovative and creative ideas continue to get explored into it's fullest reality.

Re: Why I Didn’t Stop Oba Olaoye From Contesting For Soun Stool — Adeboye by Dsimmer: 2:09pm On Jan 17
Apart from Robert Noris, there's also Herodotus who also wrote about Yoruba civilization (Ile Ife) as far back in the BC!

Point is, these old ancestors even knew the orisha also represent innovation and creativity. They were the ones who made drums, copper arts, clothing apparels, pavement roads etc after all. High time such innovative and creative ideas of the Orishas continue to get explored into its fullest reality.

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