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Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by IbeOkehie: 9:29am On Feb 04
RickyJesus:

Where is your evidence that things won't have been worst if Jonathan continuous?

Can't prove something that didn't happen. Can't prove a negative.

We know that President Jonathan and the PDP at that time were more free market oriented than the APC.

So it's reasonable to assume that they would have produced more prosperity than APC has done. Indeed they did have a much better economic record.

The real question is whether the PEOPLE of Nigeria would allow President Jonathan to continue the work he wanted to do. We know the answer is NO, they rejected him. And the conditions of today are the result.

Good Luck to Nigeria.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by Gerrard59(m): 9:47am On Feb 04
IbeOkehie:


Fulani militias are killing Christians in the Middle Belt.

Igbo people were beaten for daring to vote in Lagos. Ever heard of the Apo 6 in Abuja, six young Igbos killed and the known killer hasn't been arrested till this very day.

I could go on and on. Tribalism in Nigeria is much worse than racism in Europe or North America. And the worst thing is in Nigeria you still have to suffer through a terrible economy on top of it all.

Those footballers get paid very well to endure. They'll be fine 🙂

Enjoy your Nigeria. I'm done with that country, thanks.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

The ogbonti of a Nairalander is more bothered about being thrown a banana in wealthy Europe than blacks being slaughtered by fellow blacks, all in the name of religion in the world's most populous black nation. Let me state it clearly: In Nigeria, Christians are more likely to die than in China or North Korea. Yes, North Korea. More Christians were butchered in Nigeria than in North Korea. A Christian from Borno state would live a longer and peaceful life in Northern Japan - a country with less than 2% Christians.

So, when ignoramuses scream about racism in wealthy countries o, they forget the toxic and deadly discrimination in poorer nations. The worst form of discrimination is when it is done by poor people in a poor country. It can be bitter and fatal.

When I am asked what do I think of racism in Japan: My answer is simple: I am an Igbo man, and racism doesn't concern me. A longer explanation is that: I rather live with racists in a wealthy country than with tribalists in the world's poverty capital!

Gerrard59:


Anytime I read the bold from Africans, esp Nigerians, I shake my head. People who trade in tribalism used it to flog other people who went to vote, exterminate communities because the indigenes are of a different ethnic group, and many more are suddenly worried about racism. Tribalism is way worse than racism because you both are of the same race aka share the same skin colour. The annoying thing about the tribalism is the privation bedevilling both people. People wey poverty don nack their head pass talking drum dey carry tribalism for head like gala. A South Korean and Japanese might have issues because of their histories, but both persons are citizens of rich countries. Somewhere in Africa, two people go get problem even if their ethnic groups never had one historically, but these people are both poor. Most of them inhale generator fumes for a living. Others don turn camel because of fuel at N700. Tomorrow, they want to japa and are bothered about racism.

Nansense!

As always, better to reside with racists in a prosperous land than live with tribalists in the world's poverty capital. If you must discriminate against others, ensure you're prosperous at global levels.

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Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by IbeOkehie: 9:57am On Feb 04
Gerrard59:


I really love your illustration of data in your posts, This is something most Nigerians fail to do. They love to use anecdotal points during a debate when that is not a reflection of the entire concept or society. Casting 1000 random illegal Nigerian folks in the US vs 1000 random people in Nigeria would show the true picture of whether it pays to remain in Nigeria or emigrate.

I actually have such data in my own social circle, though an admittedly smaller sample of course.

I have 3 men older than me, family friends born the 1960s, that illustrate the point. They were good friends, like 3 musketeers. None of them was a University graduate, just secondary school education.

One was a trader, the other a civil servant in state government, the other a tailor. The tailor was married and the richest of the three. In the late 1970's they all travelled to USA on vacation.

On return, after a year or two, the Civil servant decided to enter University, but because he couldn't get admission, he tried the USA and got admitted to a small university here.

When the Civil servant moved to the USA, he travelled with the married tailor. The married tailor could have stayed, but chose to return to Nigeria and wait for his wife to graduate nursing school. By that time things got bad and his business folded, there were kids now and less money.

The tailor and trader are dead, the Civil servant in the USA is still alive. This is a real story. Not only that, what about the children?

The one in the USA ended up as a high school teacher then school administrator. He is married and has 4 kids...doctor, engineer and two nurses.

The children of the trader went to University in Nigeria, one of the boys graduated, didn't get a meaningful job or livelihood fit for middle class aspirations and migrated to Dubai.

The family of the tailor fell into complete poverty. As in, complete.

But YOU Oga Gerrard, I'm sure you have these kinds of comparative stories. I keep asking, do you not know any Nigerian families that returned to Nigeria in the 1970s? I know MANY such families and my knowledge of their lives and circumstances inform my argument that living in the Anglo-West is likely to produce better long term outcomes for the average person.

But wait ✋️....you live in Japan? Say wetin?

Good Luck to Nigerians.

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Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by RickyJesus: 9:58am On Feb 04
Gerrard59:


It is apparent you campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. As a result, I don't consider you to be an intelligent person. So, the first four years, let alone eight years, of Buhari's tenure wasn't enough to tell you that Buhari was and is an incompetent feudalist?!
It's silly to measure ones intelligent by the politicians they voted for. Don't be naive.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by RickyJesus: 10:03am On Feb 04
IbeOkehie:


Can't prove something that didn't happen. Can't prove a negative.

We know that President Jonathan and the PDP at that time were more free market oriented than the APC.

So it's reasonable to assume that they would have produced more prosperity than APC has done. Indeed they did have a much better economic record.

The real question is whether the PEOPLE of Nigeria would allow President Jonathan to continue the work he wanted to do. We know the answer is NO, they rejected him. And the conditions of today are the result.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

All this are speculative thought, there was a reason that majority stood behind Buhari with their resources and all to unseat a sitting president should remind you alot about how the political and economy climate was at that point; seems ya all are quick to forget.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by Gerrard59(m): 10:06am On Feb 04
RickyJesus:

It's silly to measure ones intelligent by the politicians they voted for. Don't be naive.

Use your mental superiority to bring back GEJ's economic growth rates. You people like dodging your irresponsibility where you voted for a man whose livelihood defied basic economic and biological principles.

Tinubu's economic ministers have confessed GEJ era had high economic growth, but a random RickyJesus believes I should rate people who campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015 to be intelligent?!

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Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by IbeOkehie: 10:08am On Feb 04
RickyJesus:

It's is silly to measure ones intelligent by the politicians they voted for. Don't be naive.

Actually I've come to realize that POLITICAL opinions are a good illustration of character and intelligence.

I've sensed this for a very long time but in the last year or two I've experienced enough to adopt it as a rule for my own life.

A person who believes in socialist policies, subsidies and such is either 1.unintelligent, 2. willingly ignorant or 3. wicked & dishonest.

That's fact. Sorry. Humans are bad but anyone that voted for Buhari is worse.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

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Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by IbeOkehie: 10:13am On Feb 04
RickyJesus:

All this are speculative thought, there was a reason that majority stood behind Buhari with their resources and all to unseat a sitting president should remind you alot about how the political and economy climate was at that point; seems ya all are quick to forget.

The reason was TRIBALISM and ignorance and low IQ. Typical Nigerian character. They're reaping the results.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by Gerrard59(m): 10:14am On Feb 04
IbeOkehie:


knowledge of their lives and circumstances inform my argument that living in the Anglo-West is likely to produce better outcomes for the average person.

But wait ✋️....you live in Japan? Say wetin?

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Yes, I live in Japan.

I am curious, why does the Democratic Party love aiding and abetting criminals? Why are they so notorious for proposing weak laws? Then, when it backfires, they accuse the GOP of mumbo-jumbo. This is a party that initiated, promoted and espoused "sanctuary cities", but now complains after they got a floodload of immigrants in their cities. The policies they create and implement do more harm than good. I have never come across a policy the Democratic Party has enacted which promotes prosperity and safety.

As for your comment about this year's election. Well, I no fit lie, I saw the future that there would be civil unrest in the US largely because of uncontrolled immigration, high wave of crimes, and a decline in the white population in the country. Once whites lost numerical majority, the country is toast!

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Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by RickyJesus: 10:21am On Feb 04
IbeOkehie:


Actually I've come to realize that POLITICAL opinions are a good illustration of character and intelligence.

I've sensed this for a very long time but in the last year or two I've experienced enough to adopt it as a rule for my own life.

A person who believes in socialist policies, subsidies and such is either 1.unintelligent, 2. willingly ignorant or 3. wicked & dishonest.

That's fact. Sorry. Humans are bad but anyone that voted for Buhari is worse.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
You should know that it's just political opinion as such ranking some opinion as yardstick to measure someone intelligence is just lazy.

Are there no successful socialist country? In the issue of subsidies, have there not been school of thought and research that was conducted to ascertain the merit and demerit of subsidy with debate been held every now and then.

If you are in anyway intelligent you won't take that as a good measure for measuring intelligence.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by RickyJesus: 10:22am On Feb 04
IbeOkehie:


The reason was TRIBALISM and ignorance and low IQ. Typical Nigerian character. They're reaping the results.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Unfounded claim.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by lastkingsman: 10:25am On Feb 04
Gerrard59:


Yes, I live in Japan.

I am curious, why does the Democratic Party love aiding and abetting criminals? Why are they so notorious for proposing weak laws? Then, when it backfires, they accuse the GOP of mumbo-jumbo. This is a party that initiated, promoted and espoused "sanctuary cities", but now complains after they got a floodload of immigrants in their cities. The policies they create and implement do more harm than good. I have never come across a policy the Democratic Party has enacted which promotes prosperity and safety.

As for your comment about this year's election. Well, I no fit lie, I saw the future that there would be civil unrest in the US largely because of uncontrolled immigration, high wave of crimes, and a decline in the white population in the country. Once whites lost numerical majority, the country is toast!

Even Elon musk is complaining. One of the guys behind this is Gorge Soros and his open border advocacy.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by RickyJesus: 10:27am On Feb 04
Gerrard59:


Use your mental superiority to bring back GEJ's economic growth rates. You people like dodging your irresponsibility where you voted for a man whose livelihood defied basic economic and biological principles.

Tinubu's economic ministers have confessed GEJ era had high economic growth, but a random RickyJesus believes I should rate people who campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015 to be intelligent?!
You don't need to believe it? Either should we take some random Gerrard59 opinion as a yardstick for measuring intelligence, it just sounds plain silly and indicate a lack of critical thinking but just an emotionally motivated opinion.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by IbeOkehie: 10:28am On Feb 04
Gerrard59:


Yes, I live in Japan.

I am curious, why does the Democratic Party love aiding and abetting criminals? Why are they so notorious for proposing weak laws? Then, when it backfires, they accuse the GOP of mumbo-jumbo. This is a party that initiated, promoted and espoused "sanctuary cities", but now complains after they got a floodload of immigrants in their cities. The policies they create and implement do more harm than good. I have never come across a policy the Democratic Party has enacted which promotes prosperity and safety.

As for your comment about this year's election. Well, I no fit lie, I saw the future that there would be civil unrest in the US largely because of uncontrolled immigration, high wave of crimes, and a decline in the white population in the country. Once whites lost numerical majority, the country is toast!

The bolded, we've already indirectly discussed this. I wanted to expand but it's dangerous on an open forum. It's the same reason the Nobel Prizes are now rigged. Very deep and dangerous stuff.

But Nna wetin carry you go Japan abeg? See me trouble o! Are you seriously in Japan?

The brother of a friend lives in Japan, but he's not Igbo so it can't be you.

The daughter of an Igbo Nigerian I worked with decided to attend Medical School in Japan...learned Japanese here in the USA, I don't know how.

My Oga Gerrard if na true say you dey Japan, na im be say you dey craze. What on earth are you doing there? Diplomat or something? Do you speak and write Japanese? You Igbo people are crazy 🤪 !!!!!

Good Luck to Japan!!!!
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by IbeOkehie: 10:36am On Feb 04
RickyJesus:

You should know that it's just political opinion as such ranking some opinion as yardstick to measure someone intelligence is just lazy.

Are there no successful socialist country? In the issue of subsidies, have there not been school of thought and research that was conducted to ascertain the merit and demerit of subsidy with debate been held every now and then.

If you are in anyway intelligent you won't take that as a good measure for measuring intelligence.

That's OK, I stand by my statement. Any objective look around illustrates the truth of my position.

Being that you're Nigerian you likely won't understand, which is exactly my point. Got it?
😆 🤣 😆

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by RickyJesus: 10:42am On Feb 04
IbeOkehie:


That's OK, I stand by my statement. Any objective look around illustrates the truth of my position.

Being that you're Nigerian you likely won't understand, which is exactly my point. Got it?
😆 🤣 😆

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Now is no longer people who voted for Buhari that are unintelligent but also been a Nigerian. Got it.

Don't make a statement if you can't sustain it with a well created logical argument.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by IbeOkehie: 10:54am On Feb 04
RickyJesus:


Now is no longer people who voted for Buhari that are unintelligent but also been a Nigerian. Got it.

Yep, a majority of Nigerians voted for Buhari and Tinubu in 2015 based on the APC claim that "there's nothing like subsidy".

Nigeria has been paying fuel subsidies since 1973. Muhammadu Buhari was a Petroleum Minister around 1976 and negotiated with the IMF about fuel subsidies in 1984. Nigerians still voted him after he told such a whopper of a lie?

Yes, a majority of Nigerians voted for Buhari which means the vast majority of them are unintelligent. Their vote in 2015 is my proof. Glad to see they're enjoying the CHANGE they voted for. Yeye people!!!

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by Gerrard59(m): 11:01am On Feb 04
lastkingsman:


Even Elon musk is complaining. One of the guys behind this is Gorge Soros and his open border advocacy.

Well, considering Elon's history as someone who grew up in Apartheid South Africa, he should be worried. Imagine enjoying the privileges as a white man in Apartheid South Africa, then relocating to a white-dominated country only to see your group losing its dominance gradually? If na you, you no go worry?

As for Soros, I have read about his plans as written by those GOP folks. I am just interested in seeing him apply similar policies or tactics to developed countries in East Asia or Asia generally.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by 004gist: 11:01am On Feb 04
sweetkev:
How could you earn less than 500 pounds a month. How much do you get paid per hour here in the UK. You just like discouraging people to come here. Why are you people so selfish and wicked to people back home.

If you are in the UK you should know that getting a job as a new migrant is not easy. In a day I get almost 20 unfortunate on indeed.
Job issue is a big issue right now

I said if you are coming through sponsorship that is genuine... Then come no problem cos you start working instantly.
But coming as a student? I won't advise any right now except you have full funds... 45m
Coming through paid sponsorship which us very common, one also need to be careful.
Lastly I am not discouraging any body but telling them the reality on ground and what others are passing through.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by Gerrard59(m): 11:22am On Feb 04
IbeOkehie:


The bolded, we've already indirectly discussed this. I wanted to expand but it's dangerous on an open forum. It's the same reason the Nobel Prizes are now rigged. Very deep and dangerous stuff.

But Nna wetin carry you go Japan abeg? See me trouble o! Are you seriously in Japan?

My story long.. I will share it when the time is right. I will mention you by then. Hopefully, life keeps us till then and beyond and you continue to be a Nairalander. Cos for me, I no dey deactivate.

But you have not explained why (not how) you believe the Nobel Prize in the science category has been rigged.

The brother of a friend lives in Japan, but he's not Igbo so it can't be you.

The majority of Nigerians in Japan, and I dare say all of East Asia, are Igbos. I am willing to bet this applies to South East Asia as well. Indonesia and Malaysia would be where a substantial population of Yorubas (Muslims) and Northerners might be present. But the majority should be Igbos, I am willing to wager.

The daughter of an Igbo Nigerian I worked with decided to attend Medical School in Japan...learned Japanese here in the USA, I don't know how.

She is strong! First as a black person in the medical field and second as a woman. The medical, accounting and legal fields are overwhelmingly Japanese, just as it is elsewhere, especially in non-English speaking countries. So for a black female? Honestly, she is strong!

My Oga Gerrard if na true say you dey Japan, na im be say you dey craze. What on earth are you doing there? Diplomat or something? Do you speak and write Japanese? You Igbo people are crazy 🤪 !!!!!

I don't know whether it is out of sheer coincidence or fate, but most Nigerians in my school are Igbos. The majority of scholarship awardees' of MEXT from Nigeria - Japan's prestigious scholarship for foreigners - are Igbos. Japan is disproportionately populated by Igbos, whether work or study or asylum seekers.

But seriously, why are you surprised? You are Igbo as well, so? I know the effects of the civil war kickstarted the movement to the Far East but why it has continued to date is not clear. Na to conduct research on why there are more Igbos in countries with fewer blacks than Yorubas (since both ethnic groups constitute the largest set of Nigerian diasporans).

P.S. On the italicised part, that is a hypothesis.

As for writing Japanese? In my opinion, this is almost impossible for non-East Asian adults. Unless born and bred here, it is hard to write it. Even adult Japanese find some of the Kanjis to be hard. For the time here, I would say I have done well. I read better than I speak. I can hear also, but must be spoken slowly and in standard Japanese. Once it is shortened or the prefectural dialects come in, wahala dey.

Good Luck to Japan!!!!

Thank you.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by ogbonti: 5:22pm On Feb 04
Gerrard59:


The ogbonti of a Nairalander is more bothered about being thrown a banana in wealthy Europe than blacks being slaughtered by fellow blacks, all in the name of religion in the world's most populous black nation. Let me state it clearly: In Nigeria, Christians are more likely to die than in China or North Korea. Yes, North Korea. More Christians were butchered in Nigeria than in North Korea. A Christian from Borno state would live a longer and peaceful life in Northern Japan - a country with less than 2% Christians.

So, when ignoramuses scream about racism in wealthy countries o, they forget the toxic and deadly discrimination in poorer nations. The worst form of discrimination is when it is done by poor people in a poor country. It can be bitter and fatal.

When I am asked what do I think of racism in Japan: My answer is simple: I am an Igbo man, and racism doesn't concern me. A longer explanation is that: I rather live with racists in a wealthy country than with tribalists in the world's poverty capital!


this was probably what the igbo man in this video thought, just like you UNTIL RACISM came for his life - plz watch and reciv sense!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IHy1CXNVoo

more of igbo man wey no dey fear racism - and reciv sense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNfvIFx6B8U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ8aeIdjgc0

in case you do not have enuff data - just watch 1:45mind to 3:00 mins of the video below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2meauQb4tfw

I will stop here - MR IGBO Man - abroad suffer dey call you- biko goooo and stop disturbing the cyber space!!! THANKS
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by headboyprince(m): 6:36pm On Feb 04
MasterTeeUSA:
I was asking you where...tell me where you will get $500 houses rent...even your English is a liability and you want to insult someone. The Doctor doing care job overestimated his degree worth in a country that can't even find residency placements for its own citizens...Clearly you have no clue. Good day Bro




are you saying you can rent a room in a cheap city or a shared apartment for $500? keep trying to sound intelligent when you're not. And this shows how low rated Nigeria is, that a medical degree here isnt worth anything over there. thats the more reason people will even japa self. the country is racing to the ground. there is no future in Nigeria.

even if the doctor ends up with carejob over there at least he will be able to give his children a future. and he will be free from security issues, inflation, corruption, light blackouts, bad roads and all the shits we're currently facing in nigeria. if you want to stay and perish in Nigeria do so since you dont value your life, let those that value their life and future do so.

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Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by headboyprince(m): 6:53pm On Feb 04
MasterTeeUSA:
I was asking you where...tell me where you will get $500 houses rent...even your English is a liability and you want to insult someone. The Doctor doing care job overestimated his degree worth in a country that can't even find residency placements for its own citizens...Clearly you have no clue. Good day Bro




despite all the money your politicians earn they still have abroad visa, send their kids to study and base abroad, and have properties over there. shame suppose they catch some of una defending this country. you guys brain is equivalent to that of a goat. as long as you see grass to eat, you dont mind staying in capativity waiting to be slaughtered, even if the place is stinking. tufiawaka!!

Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by MasterTeeUSA: 7:19pm On Feb 04
I've come to understand...intelligence is not often common. Where did i defend the govt? I am not and do not know one politician in power talk less of benefitting. My point is simple...all that glitters is not gold...what we lack and need to work on remain the fundamentals.

All schools should focus on agriculture...govt can mandate that. Regulations on housing so issues can be resolved to encourage private investments into housing...people are building...just using them for airbnb and hotels.







headboyprince:
despite all the money your politicians earn they still have abroad visa, send their kids to study and base abroad, and have properties over there. shame suppose they catch some of una defending this country. you guys brain is equivalent to that of a goat. as long as you see grass to eat, you dont mind staying in capativity waiting to be slaughtered, even if the place is stinking. tufiawaka!!
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by MasterTeeUSA: 7:22pm On Feb 04
lol...you said a house rent now you say shared...we know your kind...we ask for evidence ...you change conversation. Naija children no dey jail abroad...you think everyone that japa provide beautiful future for their children...if you know, you know.. .clearly you don't know...if I am you, I will ask and learn ...not conclude






headboyprince:
are you saying you can rent a room in a cheap city or a shared apartment for $500? keep trying to sound intelligent when you're not. And this shows how low rated Nigeria is, that a medical degree here isnt worth anything over there. thats the more reason people will even japa self. the country is racing to the ground. there is no future in Nigeria.

even if the doctor ends up with carejob over there at least he will be able to give his children a future. and he will be free from security issues, inflation, corruption, light blackouts, bad roads and all the shits we're currently facing in nigeria. if you want to stay and perish in Nigeria do so since you dont value your life, let those that value their life and future do so.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by Gerrard59(m): 4:19am On Feb 05
ogbonti:


in case you do not have enuff data - just watch 1:45mind to 3:00 mins of the video below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2meauQb4tfw

I will stop here - MR IGBO Man - abroad suffer dey call you- biko goooo and stop disturbing the cyber space!!! THANKS


The man in Italy crossed certain boundaries, which resulted in the unfortunate incident. But you know what? The man who murdered him was sentenced to jail for 20 years. Mr Ogbonti, have the murderers of Deborah Samuel Yakubu, who was flogged, dragged and burnt to death by young Islamists been apprehended and sentenced to jail for their despicable acts? A young girl was razed to ashes by people who look like her and videoed for the world to see, YET the perpetrators have not been sentenced to jail. Also, any Igbo person living outside Nigeria, especially first generation, who complains about racism is very stoopid, and I am unapologetic about this aspect.

You allegedly live in the US, and everyone knows the consequences those who racially abuse or harm others, especially minorities, experience. That is called the rule of law. So before you come up with inane comparisons, ask yourselves hard questions. Being starred at is better than being butchered and having entire communities obliterated from the face of the earth. Why you have not returned to or moved to where there are many black people is befuddling. Always practicing what they don't preach, and preaching what they don't practice.

As for the dude in Malaysia. It was his passport, and not necessarily the colour of his skin, that caused it. Nigerian passport holders, especially males, have committed terrible crimes in Malaysia for a very long time. An African American or a black French citizen wouldn't be treated in the same manner. For racism in general against black people, it is more about wealth than skin colour. Any black person who wants racism to reduce, not end, as humans are tribal, should advocate for sub-Saharan Africa (home to black people) to be rich. https://www.nairaland.com/5886610/racism-against-blacks-reduce-drastically

Wealth reduces racism, not chanting black lives matter.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by Gerrard59(m): 4:39am On Feb 05
Uwazie0:
Lol. You never japa, you dey give motivational speech. Oga, everything you said is dust. The cleaner in my office here travels to severla countries on holiday. Infact, she just came back from Turkey last week, she went to relax with her husband for a week. How many people who have good corporate jobs in Nigeria can afford to travel out for holidays. She even uses an Iphone 15 pro max, which she pays bit by bit every month without any stress. you are here talking about washing toilet.

I can say categorically that it is better to wash toilet in the UK or US than to work with in banks or with Federal Government in Nigeria. Believe it or not

That is a big fat lie! You people lie too much on this forum. It is demoralising and a demotion for a bank manager in Nigeria to wash toilets in the UK. That is a terrible thing to do. So, it is not better.
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by Gerrard59(m): 4:42am On Feb 05
Dennisochampa:
....
U lack understanding and it's terrible....
Did I force anyone to stay??

I have seen people who have all the money in the world but chose to stay back in 9ja.....
My former boss.... He's a Nigerian but an American citizen... He's based in 9ja 8 months each year and only visits his wife and kids based in USA 4 months in a year of 12.......u Wan go beat that one??
Life is by choice.... I said what I said and didn't force anyone to accept or go through with it

That is what elites in Nigeria do na. It is the zenith as a Nigerian - live in Nigeria and have a passport of a developed country. All politicians do such. Desmond Elliot moved his family to the US before entering politics. Banky W has American citizenship while Adesuwa has British.

In fact, as a Nigerian man, that is the ultimate to life one earth.

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Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by DrAkpa(m): 4:58am On Feb 05
Gerrard59:


That is a big fat lie! You people lie too much on this forum. It is demoralising and a demotion for a bank manager in Nigeria to wash toilets in the UK. That is a terrible thing to do. So, it is not better.

A lot of you Nigerians just have this larger than life image of yourselves when you absolutely worth less than half a cent. Please what exactly is wrong with washing toilets for a living? The white people who do cleaning for a living, are you superior to them? Mike Adenuga and Bola Tinubu that washed toilets and drove taxis during their hustling days, are you superior to them? People like you are destined to die poor because of arrogance and inability to adapt to any situation you find yourself. Please don't pass this furcked up mentality to your children otherwise you are settling them up for failure. Even myself, after I left secondary school, my father made sure I got a job. I worked as a cleaner, fuel dispenser and kitchen worker before I entered the university in the early 90s... I had a choice to stay at home and keep eating mummy's food, but I was determined with the support of my father to start fending for myself as a teenager. This sort of training prepared me for the early rough life of immigrants in the western world when I left Nigeria as a post graduate student in the early 2000s and as a professional after my party lost elections and federal power in 2015. Today, My first son is a physiotherapist, my daughter is a nurse and my second son is an engineer in their adopted country. But I made sure they worked their ass doing menial jobs after they left high school and as undergraduates. Stop this nonsense behavior, because it will lead to your destruction. A word is enough for the wise

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Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by Gerrard59(m): 5:32am On Feb 05
DrAkpa:


A lot of you Nigerians just have this larger than life image of yourselves when you absolutely worth less than half a cent. Please what exactly is wrong with washing toilets for a living? The white people who do cleaning for a living, are you superior to them? Mike Adenuga and Bola Tinubu that washed toilets and drove taxis during their hustling days, are you superior to them? People like you are destined to die poor because of arrogance and inability to adapt to any situation you find yourself. Please don't pass this furcked up mentality to your children otherwise you are settling them up for failure. Even myself, after I left secondary school, my father made sure I got a job. I worked as a cleaner, fuel dispenser and kitchen worker before I entered the university in the early 90s... I had a choice to stay at home and keep eating mummy's food, but I was determined with the support of my father to start fending for myself as a teenager. This sort of training prepared me for the early rough life of immigrants in the western world when I left Nigeria as a post graduate student in the early 2000s and as a professional after my party lost elections and federal power in 2015. Today, My first son is a physiotherapist, my daughter is a nurse and my second son is an engineer in their adopted country. But I made sure they worked their ass doing menial jobs after they left high school and as undergraduates. Stop this nonsense behavior, because it will lead to your destruction. A word is enough for the wise

While you have made great strides for yourself and your family, are you advising that a bank manager should rather opt for cleaning jobs than target a similar sector in his new country? How come the Chinese don't adopt similar tactics? For how long would he continue to work such jobs considering his erstwhile experience? I have nothing against cleaning jobs. My stance is: a cleaner in the UK is not better off than a bank manager in Nigeria. A banker in the UK is obviously better than a banker in Nigeria. But cleaner in the UK vs bank manager in Nigeria is an apples to orange analogy.

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Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by DrAkpa(m): 5:48am On Feb 05
Gerrard59:


While you have made great strides for yourself and your family, are you advising that a bank manager should rather opt for cleaning jobs than target a similar sector in his new country? How come the Chinese don't adopt similar tactics? For how long would he continue to work such jobs considering his erstwhile experience? I have nothing against cleaning jobs. My stance is: a cleaner in the UK is not better off than a bank manager in Nigeria. A banker in the UK is obviously better than a banker in Nigeria. But cleaner in the UK vs bank manager in Nigeria is an apples to orange analogy.

I didn't even see the moniker properly before quoting. Abeg no vex, I no know say na u I quote .
For the record, how long he stays as a cleaner is determined by him and not the system. The same way you don't expect any foreigner to just come to Nigeria and become a manager is the same way these foreign countries don't expect a stranger to just come there and be given managerial jobs. You have to fight to the top. The good thing about such societies is that as long as you are determined and qualified, you will eventually get to the top. Is that obtainable in Nigeria? Capital "NO"
Re: I Envy People Who Left Nigeria Already. by ogbonti: 5:52am On Feb 05
Gerrard59:


The man in Italy crossed certain boundaries, which resulted in the unfortunate incident. But you know what? The man who murdered him was sentenced to jail for 20 years. Mr Ogbonti, have the murderers of Deborah Samuel Yakubu, who was flogged, dragged and burnt to death by young Islamists been apprehended and sentenced to jail for their despicable acts? A young girl was razed to ashes by people who look like her and videoed for the world to see, YET the perpetrators have not been sentenced to jail. Also, any Igbo person living outside Nigeria, especially first generation, who complains about racism is very stoopid, and I am unapologetic about this aspect.

You allegedly live in the US, and everyone knows the consequences those who racially abuse or harm others, especially minorities, experience. That is called the rule of law. So before you come up with inane comparisons, ask yourselves hard questions. Being starred at is better than being butchered and having entire communities obliterated from the face of the earth. Why you have not returned to or moved to where there are many black people is befuddling. Always practicing what they don't preach, and preaching what they don't practice.

As for the dude in Malaysia. It was his passport, and not necessarily the colour of his skin, that caused it. Nigerian passport holders, especially males, have committed terrible crimes in Malaysia for a very long time. An African American or a black French citizen wouldn't be treated in the same manner. For racism in general against black people, it is more about wealth than skin colour. Any black person who wants racism to reduce, not end, as humans are tribal, should advocate for sub-Saharan Africa (home to black people) to be rich. https://www.nairaland.com/5886610/racism-against-blacks-reduce-drastically

Wealth reduces racism, not chanting black lives matter.


below is a poor man, who is not wealthy called mario balloteli, ONLY if he was wealthy grin-- thanks for viewing - ozuor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xH3IBQpqHw

other poor men who lack of wealth made them prone to racism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Ov1fmOszk

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