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Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Fkmodhi: 9:45am On Feb 05
nairalanda1:


It has been in several reports. It is only now, thanks to the partial subsidy removal the government did, as well as their floating of the naira that it has gone down to 63% now.

We got into the debt because at the end, the money we earn from oil cannot carry Nigeria. Then there is the looting issue as well. Add that up, and we have wahala. And it has always been like that .

All, in all scary.

The problem is, APC was supposed to diversify the economy from 2015 onward. they did not, that is why we are here

Here is a report from last year on the debt servicing..KPMG says Nigeria may spend 100% revenue on debt service

That's why I yell about subsidy removal. And have done so since 2011, when my eyes were opened.
No be your darling daddy fault, the lifeless foolish man keep on borrowing borrowing till it reach neck

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Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by nairalanda1(m): 9:49am On Feb 05
Fkmodhi:

No be your darling daddy fault, the lifeless foolish man keep on borrowing borrowing till it reach neck

Sorry to dissapoint you, but I have never voted for their APC, or your PDP, or any main party , nor do I support Buhari or tinubu, or any PDP candidate,or Obi

You are free to believe otherwise, of course.
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Gerrard59(m): 9:50am On Feb 05
folake4u:


Subhanallahhhhhhhhhhhh! shocked

I didn't know you're an undercover bad boy oh. Anytime I see your posts, I see "Facts, figures, data, politics". cheesy

The bold reminds me of what female classmates said when we discussed sex and relationships. In the midst of them, I explained concepts they never knew existed and described the woman's body. They were shocked, to be honest. The issue I have with discussing this in-person is because most Nigerians are hypocritical and prudish at the same time. I don't like to choose my words when talking about certain things. I like stating things as they are. The female classmates who were free with me explained how their sugar daddies pampered them and the various sex styles they indulged in. Why they thought I was a tyro na because I bin dey aim at first class grade, not knowing I was knowledgable in the oza room grin

lastkingsman:


Chai chai chai.

Na your research topic for Japan be this? grin

No o.

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Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by folake4u(f): 11:11am On Feb 05
Gerrard59:


The bold reminds me of what female classmates said when we discussed sex and relationships. In the midst of them, I explained concepts they never knew existed and described the woman's body. They were shocked, to be honest. The issue I have with discussing this in-person is because most Nigerians are hypocritical and prudish at the same time. I don't like to choose my words when talking about certain things. I like stating things as they are. The female classmates who were free with me explained how their sugar daddies pampered them and the various sex styles they indulged in. Why they thought I was a tyro na because I bin dey aim at first class grade, not knowing I was knowledgable in the oza room grin




Interesting. cheesy

Yeah, we have so many hypocritical and prudish Nigerians so one needs to be careful in relating such topic to others.

Hahahaha. I totally get your point. I express myself freely when talking about sex and relationships to SPECIFIC friends. I dare not misyarn or mistakenly talk about such with another friend.

Lmao. So you're knowledgeable in oza room per theory or practical?
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Gerrard59(m): 12:38pm On Feb 05
folake4u:



Interesting. cheesy

Yeah, we have so many hypocritical and prudish Nigerians so one needs to be careful in relating such topic to others.

Hahahaha. I totally get your point. I express myself freely when talking about sex and relationships to SPECIFIC friends. I dare not misyarn or mistakenly talk about such with another friend.

Lmao. So you're knowledgeable in oza room per theory or practical?

Both, with more knowledge in the theory. I limited the practical aspect as brostitution is expensive and can be risky. I no too like condom. shocked grin
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by folake4u(f): 1:11pm On Feb 05
Gerrard59:


Both, with more knowledge in the theory. I limited the practical aspect as brostitution is expensive and can be risky. I no too like condom. shocked grin

Lmaooooooooo!

Do you have latex allergy?
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Agboriotejoye(m): 2:15pm On Feb 05
Gerrard59:




Not all groups promote pragmatism and entrepreneurship. Some groups have socialist ideas and abhor profit-making, so they become poorer. Any group that abhors or loathes profit making is bound to be poor, no ifs or buts. A simple way to know a prosperous country is by checking the list of countries under the US Visa Waiver Program: those countries are prosperous. Prosperity begets safety, as almost everyone is doing well economically. China or Russia, which we know why aren't members of the VWP, have dominant racial/ethnic groups. This means having a consensus on how the country or things should be is very easy compared to Nigeria.

Even for less developed countries - India vs Pakistan. The very reason why the former outperforms the latter is because of those factors - dominant racial/religious group. It is the very reason nuclear families prosper in the long run compared to polygamous counterparts - consensus, agreement, unity, cohesion, less bickering, togetherness etc. Even when the country is poor, just like many African countries, because of their ethnic dominance, they tend to be safe. However, some suffer conflicts because the dominant ethnic groups or competing groups are belligerent in nature. All cultures are not equal; some are more equal than others.

As Ibe said, some countries have all, some have just two, but those who have all tend to be the most prosperous and safest.
Well, you couldn't give a cogent nexus between racial dominance and economic prosperity. You summarily expounded that majority in the society must embrace capitalism for the society to be prosperous. Capitalism is not linked to any ethnicity.
Capitalism existed in African groups before the advent of colonialism.
The other one is political stability which you also attributed to ethnic dominance. That is also not correct as some of the most homogenous countries in the world have had and are still having serious instability and conflict. Chief of this is Yemen, Libya, Iran and Somalia. You seemed to cherry-pick and meander. A fault i find in Ibe too

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Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by JagabanB: 2:51pm On Feb 05
lastkingsman:
Kperogi, stop running round the circles. You have tactically mentioned in your write up that even if PO or Atiku had won, the result would be the same. This is lies from the pit of hell, you know it and I know it but because you supported bulaba in the last election, you are trying to exonerate yourself from the calamity you foisted on Nigeria.

What has Tinubu done to reduce cost of governance? What has Tinubu done to increase our oil production? What has Tinubu done in employing the best hands to run key ministries? What has Tinubu done to unite the country? What has Tinubu done to improve insecurity? The man you supported is enjoying himself in France with a high level of "I don't care". This is who you are comparing to PO and Atiku lmao grin

Our GDP per Capita is projected to be 1000$ by 2025 (in comparison Vietnam is projected at 4000$). The implications is that an average Vietnamese will be 4 times more productive than a Nigerian, all thanks to intentional and effective leadership.

According to renewed economist, Paul Alaje, who predicted this naira at 1500N/$ by April '24 last year, he has come up with another prediction that if Bulaba doesn't sit up the country is going under.

My own is this is Emilokan and Awa lokan and we have 7 years and 4months to go. Ciao

CC: JagabanB
I am telling u directly that if Obi or Atiku had won, we wouId be way wórsè than this.
So projections are important now?
LOL.
When they projected positive stuffs, u rebuffed it, but the negative ones are correct?
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by JagabanB: 2:52pm On Feb 05
Agboriotejoye:

Well you used the word dumb first do I guess you're experience means you're actually dumb.
It does not matter whether the sultan joined in the chorus of subsidy removal.
What I'm saying and I stand by is that I've been proven right that subsidy removal is not good for the economy and your dumb politicians have flunked once again as they usually do.
Don't beg me to join politics. Beg your dumb politicians to stop being dumb.
Simple Dumbo
Nobody wiII bèg a Iow Iife to join poIitics, what I am telling u is to fem if u are not part of the politics.
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by JagabanB: 2:59pm On Feb 05
2tpick:


I am sorry sir, u were actually the one who didn't follow the subsidy talk. Yes, all the frontline presidential candidates advocated scrapping subsidy but they didn't end there. They all had a plan towards its implementation and where the proceeds will be channelled to cushion the effects of its removal on the masses. A good policy can look bad if poorly implemented. Policy implementation is where the difference lies. When GEJ spoke about subsidy removal, there was something called SURE-P.

That being said, never u get bothered about any insults being thrown around here. Some of these guys cannot even stand in your presence to utter rubbish if they meet you in person.
Not a single one of them would have implemented anything better than it is now.
How many people gained anything meaningful from Sure-P?
The billions rolled out by Buhari, how many people gained anything from it?
Atiku and Obi wouldn't have implemented anything better than what we have on ground, that's a fact we are all shying away from, these men held leadership positions in time past, nothing transformative came out of it, to say today that would have done it better is misIeading.
lnsuIts here dón't bother me.
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Agboriotejoye(m): 3:03pm On Feb 05
Gerrard59:


This is akin to saying Exxon Mobil is more corrupt than NNPC. Private ownership of businesses leads to reduced corruption as there are consequences for those ill actions. It is why private firms that go bankrupt as a result of financial mismanagement do so because there are lax managerial controls in place. If not, why are privately owned companies the most profitable in the world? Even in China, privately owned firm outcompete State Owned Enterprises. If not for government subsidies, SOEs would have failed. And as mentioned countless times here, the reason SOEs can work in China, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Singapore is because these societies have one dominant ethnic group professing the same religious beliefs. It is the very reason Temasek exists but nothing like that in Nigeria. Or the Norwegian Investment fund thrives: homogeneity.
Funny you had to use ExxonMobil in your comparison. Why not use an indigenous/"nigerianized" company? Most privately run indigenous company are as corrupt as the public ones in management. Be it the banks, telcos, fmcgs or even real estate. The multi-storey building that fell in Lagos state killing its owner readily comes to mind. The late owner was in real estate in UK for years and never put a foot wrong till he came to Nigeria and suddenly caught the virus. It doesn't matter whether private or public. Wherever corruption is institutionalized or made a culture, it yields the same result. Saudi Aramco, Ethiopia Air are state owned enterprises doing well. CCECC is state owned chinese construction firm that is now world class. etc etc.

Another example is Covenant University vs Madonna University; both are privately owned, but one promoted freedom in academic expression, applied capitalism to its tenants, and sought for the brightest academic staff. In summary, the very reason private enterprises succeed is because profit making: once profit making potentials are at risk, the management moves into action to protect their investments. Apart from legal tussles, conflicts and targeted governmental policies, private firms that fail do so because of mismanagement. No one is arguing that corruption does not or would not exist. Corruption is an integral part of humans. Humans can be corrupt if the conditions are present.
Yeah. Profit making can easily coalesce into greed which breeds corruption. Ask First Bank and Otudeko recently. He could have easily ruined First Bank with his "profit making style". CBN had to come to the rescue.



The reason the West aka white man countries are against China is simply for global hegemony. Nothing else. It is a fight for global superiority. The West is not happy China has progressed to the extent its position is being challenged. It has nothing to do with dumping of goods. If not, why has the US bullied the Netherlands to instruct ASML not to sell to China? Wouldn't it be nice to dump etching machines in the Chinese market?
More has been explained here: https://www.nairaland.com/7801886/multipolarism-versus-hegemonism-great-power
You're right! And the reason China has progressed is because it found a way to make manufacturing cheaper than their Western counterparts. Even US companies had to run to China to mass produce killing the manufacturing belt in the process. China is proof that the West do not believe in free market when it does not favour them. The sanctimonious mouthing of free market exists for when they are sitting atop the pyramid. Let me ask why the US as with most other Western countries will heavily subsidise agriculture while telling Africans that subsidy in all its forms is evil and should be scrapped. What they will never tell you is that they know Maslow's hierarchy of needs holds true and a society that can take care of the base of the pyramid for the majority of its citizenry has a brighter chance of becoming prosperous than one that cannot!



I have explained this already. Ibe calls it protection of property rights. I call it enterprising. Once you protect private rights and as a group, you promote profit making, prosperity is bound to happen. Going forward, as a diverse society, reduce government ownership of property. The government has no business in business. Mention one thriving government owned enterprise that you know? Again, I have explained this above.
Saudi Aramco, Ethiopia Air, NASA etc etc. Don't be fooled. Pure capitalism does not exist anywhere in the real world. Why mouth capitalism and still rail against monopoly anyway? Is it not supposed to be a survival of the fittest??



That is where you lie. Any land which is yours for 99 years is not owned by you, but on lease. Singaporeans know this too well. After the lease expires, the government can take your land because it is by law. You own a land when it is freehold.
I somehow agree! But there are lands that have been owned for over 100 years in Nigeria and no govt has taken it over. The earth is the Lord's in religion. The earth is the govt's in Nigeria. The earth is the King's in UK. What's the fuss about really? Has anyone ever lost his land without commensurate compensation in Nigeria? I think not. It's a concept and I don't see how that means Nigerians are disadvantaged in practice



In 2015, the majority of Nigerians went out to vote for an incompetent feudalist whose livelihood of cattle rearing defied basic economic and biological principles. How can people vote for a man whose antecedents dated to 1984 showed he was thoroughly inept and unintelligent? The 2015 election was largely free and fair, so it is a mendacious tale to state that Nigerians are intelligent people. In 2019, they repeated the same thing and further etched it by electing the same party in 2023 which plunged the country into two recessions. Oga, how is that intelligence?! You mentioned leaders as if the leaders are different from the people. Nigerians deserve the leaders they get. These leaders emanate from the population. They were not imported. You cannot give what you don't have.
2015? Jonathan deseerved to be kicked out of office. Let's not kid ourselves. Maybe not replaced by Buhari but Jonathan's body language was not of a leader but a sitter on the table of power. Power is never given. 2019? Now Buhari had no business even running for that election! He was perpetuated in office due to selfish ambition of a certain man who now seats in same office. But that's the weakness of the same democracy you guys said is required for development. It is the rule of the majority. What if the majority choose to be stupid? What can the vocal minority do but look on while their own funeral is being prepared? You see why nothing is absolute? If it were to be a truly egalitarian society, Buhari will be kicked out!! But you know the funny thing? If it were to be a wholly Hausa-Fulani state, Buhari will probably rule for life!! How do you now reconcile that?



You knew this, yet you are arguing on how ethnic dominance leads to prosperity? So, how come Namibians or Ghanaians cannot be deceived along ethnic lines? When the economy of Ghana got terrible, Ghanaians went to the streets protesting. No one mentioned ethnicity. But during ENDSARS, Igbos were accused of fostering the protests because they "wanted to burn Lagos". There were few protests in the north, all by Northern Christians. When OccupyNigeria reigned, there was none of such throughout the south east and south south. Yes, I remember Ngozi Okonjo said the economy was bleeding 350BN naira daily, but because there weren't protests in Eastern Nigeria (south east and south south), the economy was still OK. OccupyNigeria only happened in the SW and Muslim North.

So, how can such a country prosper when there are divergent opinions?
Eerm.... I still insist there is no nexus between ethnic dominance and prosperity. Yemen, Somalia, Niger etc are good examples. OBJ's biggest critics were of the Yoruba extraction. Tinubu/Buhari played ethno-religious politics does not mean that is always the norm. The north and East voted OBJ. The West voted GEJ in 2011. These all point to the fact that ethno-religious sentiments are not insurmountable for economic good. It depends more on the players and actors than the bias itself. The Tinubu boys are so confident of 2027 because they believe the North will still back their same faith ticket while the opposition will remain divided. Ebi n pa wa oo is a Yoruba catchphrase that was yelled at Tinubu. News has it there was protest in Minna today. I hope you get the gist.

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Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Agboriotejoye(m): 3:08pm On Feb 05
JagabanB:

Nobody wiII bèg a Iow Iife to join poIitics, what I am telling u is to fem if u are not part of the politics.

You mean you beg people to join politics based on how deep enough their pockets are for you to feed on? Shame!!


Well I am part of politics in Nigeria and I don't see how you became the rule maker for who has the right to speak on issues and who doesn't
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Gerrard59(m): 3:10pm On Feb 05
Agboriotejoye:

Well, you couldn't give a cogent nexus between racial dominance and economic prosperity. You summarily expounded that majority in the society must embrace capitalism for the society to be prosperous. Capitalism is not linked to any ethnicity.
Capitalism existed in African groups before the advent of colonialism.
The other one is political stability which you also attributed to ethnic dominance. That is also not correct as some of the most homogenous countries in the world have had and are still having serious instability and conflict. Chief of this is Yemen, Libya, Iran and Somalia. You seemed to cherry-pick and meander. A fault i find in Ibe too

If you scroll through my conversations, I mentioned:

Gerrard59:


While ethnical or religious or racial dominance is a factor, another aspect is the characteristics of that dominant group. Not all groups are equal, some are more equal than others. The dominant group has to be pragmatic, egalitarian, enterprising, preference for the rule of law, secular and hold people to integrity without fear or favour. It also helps if the dominant group is less belligerent, but this can appear as cowardice in the eyes of enemy groups.

Some groups have all of them, while some have few. No ethnic group in Nigeria has all.

Those countries in bold lack all those qualities. Regarding capitalism, some racial groups and ethnic groups even in Nigeria loathe profit making. They see it as immoral. See COVID. Also, when it comes to religion, some religions abhor wealth creation than others.

The good thing is, you must not agree with my posts. We can agree to disagree. The other good thing is that time will prove who was correct.
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Gerrard59(m): 3:12pm On Feb 05
Agboriotejoye:



2015? Jonathan deseerved to be kicked out of office. Let's not kid ourselves. Maybe not replaced by Buhari but Jonathan's body language was not of a leader but a sitter on the table of power. Power is never given. 2019? Now Buhari had no business even running for that election! He was perpetuated in office due to selfish ambition of a certain man who now seats in same office. But that's the weakness of the same democracy you guys said is required for development. It is the rule of the majority. What if the majority choose to be stupid? What can the vocal minority do but look on while their own funeral is being prepared? You see why nothing is absolute? If it were to be a truly egalitarian society, Buhari will be kicked out!! But you know the funny thing? If it were to be a wholly Hausa-Fulani state, Buhari will probably rule for life!! How do you now reconcile that?

I am very wary of Nigerians who campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. I see them as unintelligent people.

Bye bye!
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Gerrard59(m): 3:18pm On Feb 05
folake4u:


Lmaooooooooo!

Do you have latex allergy?

I like it skin to skin. The erotic feeling no dey market. I was using Durex, but my aim na to get those thin layer almost skin-feeling condoms. I go buy plenty keep for apartment since these people preek no big and long as black men own. Carry am dey waka anywhere I go. Between pregnancy and STDs, I don't know which I fear the most because while condom protects in most situations, e get some sex fetishes and styles I love where condom has no role to play. I cannot take chances. Na why to cheat go hard me even though to have sex with many women is sweet to the hormone testosterone.

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Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Agboriotejoye(m): 3:25pm On Feb 05
Gerrard59:


If you scroll through my conversations, I mentioned:



Those countries in bold lack all those qualities. Regarding capitalism, some racial groups and ethnic groups even in Nigeria loathe profit making. They see it as immoral. See COVID. Also, when it comes to religion, some religions abhor wealth creation than others.

The good thing is, you must not agree with my posts. We can agree to disagree. The other good thing is that time will prove who was correct.
Like I said, you and Ibe cherrypick and meander too much. That's not how to propound a theory. Where you have too many variables, you are tending towards divergence than convergence. You're a mathematician i think and should know what I mean.

No ethnic group in Nigeria that I know of loathe profit making. You are beginning to believe some stereotypes my good man. If by any chance you are referring to the Hausa north, check history. They were merchant states. How can merchants hate profit.? The core north is the most disadvantaged part of Nigeria. The factors of production are severely limited. It is not the fault of the followers but their leaders who from the start deliberately left them disadvantaged on development indices just to keep them in control. I have worked in the north. The average northerner is not more averse to profit than the average Yoruba man or Igbo. Their problem is the empowerment to make the factors of production work for them. Funny enough, in direct conflict with your position, they suffer from a mass docility which stems from religious concepts. But it is same religion that birthed Dubai and Qatar!! Like i have been saying, application is everything.

If the north produces a leader today who is ready to educate them massively and invest in making the factors of production easily accesible to them, you will be amazed at the transformation that will take place. The north is not less greedy than the south nor more righteous either.

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Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Agboriotejoye(m): 3:32pm On Feb 05
Gerrard59:


I am very wary of Nigerians who campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. I see them as unintelligent people.

Bye bye!
shocked shocked grin grin

I feel insulted and amused at the same time but I will come back and explain.

I did not campaign for nor vote Buhari in 2015 but I supported his emergence over Jonathan. Jonathan was a sitting wuss in govt. He was like a kindergaten handed a spacecraft. He needed to be eased out ASAP. APC on the other hand have shown to be more in tune with the acquisition and retention of power using crude means. You also have to know that APC are politically organised on a level we have never seen since 1999 or even at all in this country. It is a well-oiled machine that has captured is base and does everything possible to retain that base including crude tactics. APC is evil. I always say it even to their supporters' face in real life.

Back to the insult. How do you view those who voted Obama for eight years? How do you view the system that threw up Hillary and Trump in 2016, and then. Joe and Trump in 2020 and rearing to repeat same combo in 2024? Very unintelligent won't you say? Wait a minute. That's the world's biggest, freest and most enlightened democratic state!!
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by lastkingsman: 3:37pm On Feb 05
JagabanB:

I am telling u directly that if Obi or Atiku had won, we wouId be way wórsè than this .
So projections are important now?
LOL.
When they projected positive stuffs, u rebuffed it, but the negative ones are correct?

Go and treat malaria and typhoid biko
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by lastkingsman: 3:39pm On Feb 05
Gerrard59:


I like it skin to skin. The erotic feeling no dey market. I was using Durex, but my aim na to get those thin layer almost skin-feeling condoms. I go buy plenty keep for apartment since these people preek no big and long as black men own. Carry am dey waka anywhere I go. Between pregnancy and STDs, I don't know which I fear the most because while condom protects in most situations, e get some sex fetishes and styles I love where condom has no role to play. I cannot take chances. Na why to cheat go hard me even though to have sex with many women is sweet to the hormone testosterone.

Before person yarn "we accidentally had sex..." grin
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by folake4u(f): 6:07pm On Feb 05
Gerrard59:


I like it skin to skin. The erotic feeling no dey market. I was using Durex, but my aim na to get those thin layer almost skin-feeling condoms. I go buy plenty keep for apartment since these people preek no big and long as black men own. Carry am dey waka anywhere I go. Between pregnancy and STDs, I don't know which I fear the most because while condom protects in most situations, e get some sex fetishes and styles I love where condom has no role to play. I cannot take chances. Na why to cheat go hard me even though to have sex with many women is sweet to the hormone testosterone.

Interesting fun facts, Mr. Gerrard. cheesy cheesy

The thin layer almost-feeling condoms are quite expensive but I'm sure you're up to the task. grin

I don't understand the obsession with black men and big Mandingô deek.
What if you can't utilize the tools well. Mtchewww.

STDs is a killer. grin grin As for pregnancy, you go buy pampers tire. 🤣🤣🤣

Still shocked reading all these from you. I nor go lie.
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Sunday2021: 10:20pm On Feb 05
nairalanda1:


That is the problem with the article.

Mr Kperoogi, like most Nigerians believes that subsides are essential for our economic growth. Well, we tried subsides for over 40 years, and our economy has not grown as it should. Unless he wants to suddenly label all our past NIgerian leaders, the ones he blasted inclusive, as good leaders.

The problem with the subsidy wasn't even the corruption. It was the fact that we were running out of money to maintain fuel below N200 , talkless of below N100 even. It was getting to a point where our debt servicing was above 90% of our revenue.

But people like Kperoogi, and most Nigerians, including here on this site, are in denial. They want subsidy to be kept, and all they believe is that if we eliminate corruption, it would be ok.

Well, it won't. SO long as fuel consumption, production cost, increase, it means that government would be spending more and more and more money on subsides. TO the point that our debt would eat all our earnings, and grow larger than our earnings. Then the economy collapses.

That is why over the years, there have been partial removal of subsides, including by this admin. The problem is, the whole subsidy thing has discouraged domestic refining. And now we are about to have a domestic refinery...and subsidy has not yet been removed.

NIger, GHana, and many African countries have working refineries and no subsidies.

THe thing is, subsidy has to go. The annoying thing is that supporting subsidy removal means in the mind of Kperogi and most NIgerians that you are a supporter of the corn, or a tinubu supporter. Pardon. I no dey support APC. Or any other big party. But when I hear that our debt was , until this latest partial removal, eating over 90% of our revenue, what else should I support? Subsidies remaining, and a disaster happening? Or a total removal, and at least some hope we survive long enough for some sort of diversification to kick in (I don't trust that this government is even serious about it self).

Supporting subsidy removal does not mean you support tinubu, IMF, OBi, atiku, gej, buhari, obasanjo, IBB, et. It means you support NIgeria not being like Sri Lanka down the road, where we have no money, and are at the mercy of IMF . INfact, we are already there.

Venezuela has subsidsed fuel for over 60 years. See where they are. Dead broke.
I thought Tinubu said being a Nigerian president is his lifetime ambition? Does that mean he knew nothing about Nigeria before contested. Before contesting for a position you have to study and be ready for the challenges you will face with.
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by 2tpick: 10:55pm On Feb 05
JagabanB:

Not a single one of them would have implemented anything better than it is now.
How many people gained anything meaningful from Sure-P?
The billions rolled out by Buhari, how many people gained anything from it?
Atiku and Obi wouldn't have implemented anything better than what we have on ground, that's a fact we are all shying away from, these men held leadership positions in time past, nothing transformative came out of it, to say today that would have done it better is misIeading.
lnsuIts here dón't bother me.
You are busy holding brief for someone who is chilling in France while the nation burns. Your statement that "Atiku and Obi wouldn't have implemented anything better than what we have on ground" is speculative and can never be presented as facts. Why will anybody gain anything from sure-p when the aftershocks of "occupy Nigeria" truncated the programme?
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by romme2u: 11:30pm On Feb 05
Agboriotejoye:

Like I said, you and Ibe cherrypick and meander too much. That's not how to propound a theory. Where you have too many variables, you are tending towards divergence than convergence. You're a mathematician i think and should know what I mean.

No ethnic group in Nigeria that I know of loathe profit making. You are beginning to believe some stereotypes my good man. If by any chance you are referring to the Hausa north, check history. They were merchant states. How can merchants hate profit.? The core north is the most disadvantaged part of Nigeria. The factors of production are severely limited. It is not the fault of the followers but their leaders who from the start deliberately left them disadvantaged on development indices just to keep them in control. I have worked in the north. The average northerner is not more averse to profit than the average Yoruba man or Igbo. Their problem is the empowerment to make the factors of production work for them. Funny enough, in direct conflict with your position, they suffer from a mass docility which stems from religious concepts. But it is same religion that birthed Dubai and Qatar!! Like i have been saying, application is everything.

If the north produces a leader today who is ready to educate them massively and invest in making the factors of production easily accesible to them, you will be amazed at the transformation that will take place. The north is not less greedy than the south nor more righteous either.

undecided undecided

Initially i wanted to chide u for responding those pseudo-intellectuals who always devise ways of twisting facts to suit their narrow perspectives.........but for the benefit of the readers association of which i belong, i enjoyed your rebuttals.

Great insights backed with verifiable data.........farooq is an arsehole anyway
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Gerrard59(m): 4:36am On Feb 06
folake4u:


Interesting fun facts, Mr. Gerrard. cheesy cheesy

The thin layer almost-feeling condoms are quite expensive but I'm sure you're up to the task. grin

I sure will buy them when the time is right. I read tales from white men who are confused about what condom size to buy since theirs is bigger than the native men's own. Then imagine a man from West Africa. It calls for concern and caution. grin

I don't understand the obsession with black men and big Mandingô deek.
What if you can't utilize the tools well. Mtchewww.

Black men preek long and thick. At least, that is what studies have shown. Esp those in Central Africa and East Africa. Gambians and Senegalese are close competitors in preek length. I think only European men can compete with us in preek length. Certainly not East Asian men.

STDs is a killer. grin grin As for pregnancy, you go buy pampers tire. 🤣🤣🤣

Gono and syphilis full for here die! Biologically, woman fit get gono, she no sabi. Then add prescription required to get drugs unlike back home. I did not contact any of them in Nigeria, it would be disappointing to get them here. Na why this sex of a thing dey tire me.

Still shocked reading all these from you. I nor go lie.

Such is life sha. There is a first time. My Nairaland's posts' history is how my life is in reality. I am not good at lying, so I am honest in anything I say/do.
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by ifegen(m): 9:29am On Feb 06
Gerrard59:


I like it skin to skin. The erotic feeling no dey market. I was using Durex, but my aim na to get those thin layer almost skin-feeling condoms. I go buy plenty keep for apartment since these people preek no big and long as black men own. Carry am dey waka anywhere I go. Between pregnancy and STDs, I don't know which I fear the most because while condom protects in most situations, e get some sex fetishes and styles I love where condom has no role to play. I cannot take chances. Na why to cheat go hard me even though to have sex with many women is sweet to the hormone testosterone.

Nnah, condom isn't a guarantee for STI protection. Sticking to a partner is key but then what's life if you can't enjoy yourself in the process. Enjoy your skin to skin Biko. Pregnancy or not, the lady can always drink PostPill.
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by folake4u(f): 9:56am On Feb 06
Gerrard59:


I sure will buy them when the time is right. I read tales from white men who are confused about what condom size to buy since theirs is bigger than the native men's own. Then imagine a man from West Africa. It calls for concern and caution. grin



Black men preek long and thick. At least, that is what studies have shown. Esp those in Central Africa and East Africa. Gambians and Senegalese are close competitors in preek length. I think only European men can compete with us in preek length. Certainly not East Asian men.



Gono and syphilis full for here die! Biologically, woman fit get gono, she no sabi. Then add prescription required to get drugs unlike back home. I did not contact any of them in Nigeria, it would be disappointing to get them here. Na why this sex of a thing dey tire me.



Such is life sha. There is a first time. My Nairaland's posts' history is how my life is in reality. I am not good at lying, so I am honest in anything I say/do.


Na really concern and caution. I'm howling here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'm glad you didn't add Nigeria as a country to the Black Man mix of men with big gbolas in length. You did your research well.

Gono and syphillis are prevalent in Japan? Oh wow! Surprising.

Lmao. How do you cool off anytime you have sexual desires? Cos I don't think there are many black women in Japan. Or am I wrong?

Yeah, there's always a first time for everything.
Loool. I'm terrible at lying too. My folks catch me anytime I try lying. grin plus I sometimes have short term memory.
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by folake4u(f): 10:12am On Feb 06
ifegen:


Nnah, condom isn't a guarantee for STI protection. Sticking to a partner is key but then what's life if you can't enjoy yourself in the process. Enjoy your skin to skin Biko. Pregnancy or not, the lady can always drink PostPill.

Hmmm what then is a guarantee for STI protection? Asking for a neighbour.

Postpill ke? Postpill is for emergency purpose ONLY. I generally do not advice women to pop postpills all the time because it messes up a woman's menstrual cycle.

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Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by Gerrard59(m): 11:11am On Feb 06
ifegen:


Nnah, condom isn't a guarantee for STI protection. Sticking to a partner is key but then what's life if you can't enjoy yourself in the process. Enjoy your skin to skin Biko. Pregnancy or not, the lady can always drink PostPill.

Drugs are hard to get in Japan due to prescription. I overheard a Ghanaian female narrating to a Mostwana lass how black females (mostly African Americans) in the country import contraceptives because they are hard to get in the country due to many rules. It seems the government makes it hard for women to get contraceptives, then the language challenge for most foreigners. As for skin to skin, I no fit. This country get high rates of gono and syphills.

folake4u:


Na really concern and caution. I'm howling here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'm glad you didn't add Nigeria as a country to the Black Man mix of men with big gbolas in length. You did your research well.

Gono and syphillis are prevalent in Japan? Oh wow! Surprising.

Lmao. How do you cool off anytime you have sexual desires? Cos I don't think there are many black women in Japan. Or am I wrong?

Yeah, there's always a first time for everything.
Loool. I'm terrible at lying too. My folks catch me anytime I try lying. grin plus I sometimes have short term memory.

Compared to other black men, our men's preek no too long. A research idea would be to check which ethnic group's men in Nigeria have the longest preek. Those two STD/Is are notorious here. To get ampiclox sef na long process, then imagine for drug to treat gono? shocked

There are actually black women in the country, and I am sure the majority reside in the Tokyo area and environs (half of the country's population reside there anyway). Mostly black African women, but yeah, not ubiquitous as it is East Asia after all. What I suspect would be that black women would prefer to have sex within a confined relationship as opposed to causal sex since they are fewer. I have not asked any black lady how often she gets sex, but women have no problem having sex anyway. But sex shouldn't be hard.

After all, I have a friend who has been on dating apps looking for a long term relationship, but tells me women (Japanese and other foreigners) have mentioned sex, but he declines the interest. I cool off by reading financial newspapers and learning the language. Thing is, as much as I love sex, I am not an addict as I am extremely cautious of the risks involved.

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Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by folake4u(f): 1:57pm On Feb 06
Gerrard59:


Drugs are hard to get in Japan due to prescription. I overheard a Ghanaian female narrating to a Mostwana lass how black females (mostly African Americans) in the country import contraceptives because they are hard to get in the country due to many rules. It seems the government makes it hard for women to get contraceptives, then the language challenge for most foreigners. As for skin to skin, I no fit. This country get high rates of gono and syphills.



Compared to other black men, our men's preek no too long. A research idea would be to check which ethnic group's men in Nigeria have the longest preek. Those two STD/Is are notorious here. To get ampiclox sef na long process, then imagine for drug to treat gono? shocked

There are actually black women in the country, and I am sure the majority reside in the Tokyo area and environs (half of the country's population reside there anyway). Mostly black African women, but yeah, not ubiquitous as it is East Asia after all. What I suspect would be that black women would prefer to have sex within a confined relationship as opposed to causal sex since they are fewer. I have not asked any black lady how often she gets sex, but women have no problem having sex anyway. But sex shouldn't be hard.

After all, I have a friend who has been on dating apps looking for a long term relationship, but tells me women (Japanese and other foreigners) have mentioned sex, but he declines the interest. I cool off by reading financial newspapers and learning the language. Thing is, as much as I love sex, I am not an addict as I am extremely cautious of the risks involved.


Hmmmmm! It's crazy to be importing contraceptives. That's really wild. cheesy
Or will you start it as side hustle? Be importing contraceptives from Nigeria to that side. You'd make cool cash. Them go rush you tire. grin grin

Is it that the Japanese government want to regulate the birth rate of the entire citizenry?

How's the Japanese Hentai pórn business faring these days? lipsrsealed

_________

Yeah. The average Nigerian man has average sized dîck, yet they still feel insecure about it and take penîs enlargement cream/pills to increase its size. It's crazyyyyyy.

I don't know how big deek equates sexual satisfaction.

Omooooo. Ampiclox that dey pop upandan like vitamin C in Nigeria. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

About ethnic group with the largest preek? Hahahaha. I don't know but some sisters have said Benue men. Again, it's just speculation. cheesy

Black women love defined relationships, I am not surprised they'd do same over in Japan.
Wo, we all need our own person biko.

If sex isn't there, dildós to the rescue.

Hahahaha your friend dey find long term relationship, make him come Nairaland particularly Romance section and he'd change his mind that "All women are useless and he doesn't need them". grin grin

Niceee. You seem like a Finance/Economics person. It's all good though. Learning the language is also wholesome.

Yeah, make sense. Sex is risky. Life itself is risky. Hahaha.
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by kellyzaf(m): 3:40pm On Feb 06
dangoteinlaw:
tinubu himself is the failure not ministers because beta edu was a youth and still embezzled funds in less than 6months.

U r right
Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by ifegen(m): 5:02pm On Feb 06
I really don't know, there are lots of STI that can be contracted thru skin to skin contact regardless of condoms.
folake4u:


Hmmm what then is a guarantee for STI protection? Asking for a neighbour.

Postpill ke? Postpill is for emergency purpose ONLY. I generally do not advice women to pop postpills all the time because it messes up a woman's menstrual cycle.

Re: Tinubu, Nigeria Is Sinking And Streets Are Full Of Tears- Kperogi by ifegen(m): 5:06pm On Feb 06
No ethnicity has an exclusive gene for big dick in Nigeria. Queer people would say Fulani but throughout my stay in Jos and Katsina, and Taraba, I never met a Fulani man with penis bigger than mine and it's not even that big. Igbo men too, there are lots of us with little joysticks. Same with Yoruba Men.
folake4u:



Hmmmmm! It's crazy to be importing contraceptives. That's really wild. cheesy
Or will you start it as side hustle? Be importing contraceptives from Nigeria to that side. You'd make cool cash. Them go rush you tire. grin grin

Is it that the Japanese government want to regulate the birth rate of the entire citizenry?

How's the Japanese Hentai pórn business faring these days? lipsrsealed

_________

Yeah. The average Nigerian man has average sized dîck, yet they still feel insecure about it and take penîs enlargement cream/pills to increase its size. It's crazyyyyyy.

I don't know how big deek equates sexual satisfaction.

Omooooo. Ampiclox that dey pop upandan like vitamin C in Nigeria. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

About ethnic group with the largest preek? Hahahaha. I don't know but some sisters have said Benue men. Again, it's just speculation. cheesy

Black women love defined relationships, I am not surprised they'd do same over in Japan.
Wo, we all need our own person biko.

If sex isn't there, dildós to the rescue.

Hahahaha your friend dey find long term relationship, make him come Nairaland particularly Romance section and he'd change his mind that "All women are useless and he doesn't need them". grin grin

Niceee. You seem like a Finance/Economics person. It's all good though. Learning the language is also wholesome.

Yeah, make sense. Sex is risky. Life itself is risky. Hahaha.



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