So no police check point in north like every areas in Lagos?


Not sure this can happen in Lagos

Family business. How are they gonna feed 200 pple in their hideout ? If they are not released within 1 week then the kidnappers has someone(a politician) backing dem

Malroux:
The private negotiator might be terrorist Gumi. Ebola Tinubu derided GEJ back then for failing to tackle insecurity, but in this Tinubu's inglorious administration, he has failed woefully in everything about governance. He is already the worst president in history of the black race.

What is their State governor doing about it?🤔

Seems this governor is stupid!

If he pays the ransom, what stops them from doing it again?

The BringBackOurGirls was a scam by APC. The same script is playing out now. Only thing is Soyinka and his cretins are silent now.

I wonder why.

Truvelisback:
What is their State governor doing about it?🤔

Back then it was GEJ's fault. Did you ask same question then?

I thought not.

StOla:
There is no security in Nigeria.

NigerDelta militancy, Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen terrorists, IPOB-ESN-UGM, and Bandit terrorists have proven this many times over.

But you voted tilumbu to fix it. How market?

Enculer2:


Back then it was GEJ's fault. Did you ask same question then?

I thought not.

You are right. I only blame GEJ for being a SIMP. He wanted to please everyone and even those(the northerners) that never wanted him there. If he had turned a deaf ear, it would have been well with him.

Komo4dmoney:


The responsibility lies with the state governments, not Tinubu. Governors are tasked with ensuring the security of the people, not the federal government.

Shut f up!

During the time of Jonathan the responsibility was not on shettima

You people are bloody hypocrites

Truvelisback:
What is their State governor doing about it?🤔

Last time I checked we are still operating a federal police that is answerable to the president.

Kuginzi:

https://punchng.com/school-mass-abduction-kaduna-hires-private-negotiator-to-free-287-pupils/?amp

That's the problem in Nigeria...

Why negotiate with terrorist? Find them, kill dem!

business is booming, the neighborhood in Abuja will shake this coming sallah. Expect more transactions, things are expensive than before, a ram will go for more than a million.

Kuginzi:

https://punchng.com/school-mass-abduction-kaduna-hires-private-negotiator-to-free-287-pupils/?amp

The private negotiator is in real business and may not be unconnected with the series of abductions taking place in schools.

robinso01:
How possible can 287 pupils be kidnapped without any traces ?

You know this is Nigeria..,

Nobody is ready to work without mobilization fees.

GanagiBitrus:

Only possible explanation is that they have overrun our security forces & have complete territorial control of the areas they operate.

I saw this in a newspaper today and I was quite scared, some top shots in power are certainly benefitting from these wave of abductions.

Even when I am trying to imagine it in my head, I will just have headache. Infact how can the kidnapper have the mind and take such risk to gather 287 human beings and keep them till now. I will say if this kidnappers succeed and they are not caught but finally cash out, then I will say this should be the biggest kidnapping hit in the history of Nigeria. Just imagine how much on each person's head multiplied by 287. If these guys are successful then I will finally give up on this country. I mean how did we get to this point? Private negotiator. Where is our security me in this country?

GanagiBitrus:
I am still trying to understand how possible it is to abduct a whole 287 human beings at once.

It's simply impossible to gather 287 persons in one place without detection.

Only possible explanation is that they have overrun our security forces & have complete territorial control of the areas they operate.

Yeah, we want to negotiate and pay, because , at the end, people are far more scared that their loved ones would die, rather than having the army save some and risk having some killed.

The thing is, we can't keep on paying and negotiating with kidnappers. The more we do so, the more they would kidnap and kidnap. Because now that we have paid them, we have proven it is financially profitable for them to keep kidnapping.

God knows, as I said here before, that if my loved ones were kidnapped, I will raise money for them, and pay it. But at the end, I may get my loved one back, and the kidnapper gets his or her money, and thus the incentive to kidnap again, and again.

Until we are ready, however, to take the risk and stop paying these sons of perdition and anarchy, the show is going to continue.

Remember Danegeld. It was supposed to keep the English independent centuries ago. It did not work. It only incentivised the enemies to keep on coming, and then they took over to get direct access to more gold.

Lavor234:

Na...they have shown that they are not capable. I hope KADUNA, Benue and Borno should be under states of emergency if their governors are not willing to put their security votes to use.Too much nonsense has gone on for too long as for Tinubu this is just to tie him down for 8 years, he should be brutal with this, use iherijika as a consultant.Invite ISREALIs and South African MERCS.Let us see what next wil be their leverage.
Tinubu should also be careful of their moles in Strategic depth.Such as the one who advises on planning, they provide inhuman policies and let him bear the brunt of insults.

I am not a TInubu fan, but he should be aware that this is his government. They are desperate players that want to destroy it and take it from him and these are not the opposition but in his party and cabinets.

No Advice Tinubu. He knows what to do. Bt he doesn't have that balls and will power to. Infact, he can't. Delving into that will expose a lot of things which he himself may not be clean sef. Naija is a crime scene. Dem dem that wanted to use it to destabilize a sitting government temporarily lost control because many didn't know that others sitting with them at the table has other agendas. Like Abacha said. " If any insurrection lasts more than 24hrs, Govt hand is in it"

robinso01:
How possible can 287 pupils be kidnapped without any traces ?

My brother,it's really crazy to that 287 kids could be hidden in a hole and the army , air force and all security personnels can't trace them from air or land survelance .I don't know what to think about it

onyxo76:
I saw this in a newspaper today and I was quite scared, some top shots in power are certainly benefitting from these wave of abductions.

This is ridiculously serious. SMH!

onyxo76:

honestly it beats my imagination sometimes, that means the bandits will be at least 100 in number .
then how do you move 287 people just like that without any hindrance.

Kaduna state , like many Northern states, are large and big states with large areas that are sparsely populated.

And the place where they were kidnapped....is a remote rural village. All it takes is a gang of thugs, who come in, and know all the routes and also take the victims via routes not known to the security forces.

And then, there is the fact that the security forces have located the kids now. But if they move in,there is the chance the bandits would slaughter the children or use them as human shields.

IN 2014, a german expat was kidnapped at Sokoto. DSS located where he was, and a joint team of DSS, Army and police moved in. And as soon as the thugs saw the cops, they killed the german.

Add the fact that parents want their kids alive...and the negotiation route becomes the only option.

It is very likely some powerful elements are behind this, but it is also likely the bandits are their own people. And they have the government and the people by the balls. Send in the army, the kids die.


Me, I think they should allow the army do its thing. But the sad thing is, kids are going to die. ANd most Nigerians do not want that.

GanagiBitrus:
I am still trying to understand how possible it is to abduct a whole 287 human beings at once.

It's simply impossible to gather 287 persons in one place without detection.

Only possible explanation is that they have overrun our security forces & have complete territorial control of the areas they operate.

The chance is, the security forces know where the kids are by now. And the chance is, if the security forces move in to rescue the kids...the bandits would kill the victims, and then turn to face the security forces.

That is why it took so long to free the chibok girls.

IN cases like this, unless you are prepared to be like the Russians and risk having some kidnap victims die in any operation to free them, at the end you will negotiate with the bandits, and you will pay their price. Chibok, Dapchi, Katsina, and BIrnin kebbi, and the Kaduna train blast are all good examples.

The problem is, most of us don't want our loved ones to die. I don;t want my loved one to die. So, politicans sanction negotiation and eventually payment.

stallionng:

My brother,it's really crazy to that 287 kids could be hidden in a hole and the army , air force and all security personnels can't trace them from air or land survelance .I don't know what to think about it

They probably have by now. There was a similar case in kaduna state, where the kidnapped said they even saw airforce jets overfly their position.

But the problem is, if the army moves into the place, there is the chance the bandits would start killing the captives, or would use them as human shields.

And guess who gets blamed?

Negotiation results.

Agboogashi:
The private negotiator is in real business and may not be unconnected with the series of abductions taking place in schools.

He probably is not. He may even be a DSS man, or someone who does work in the area (one of the negotiatiors in the chibok girls case was someone who had a private school in the region, and some of the bokoists sent their kids to that school, and that's how he knew them).

The problem is, the Army could go in and free the kids. But there is the risk that some, or all of them could die at the hands of their captors. Their captors know this, and hold the fact over our heads. And parents don't want their kids to die.

kherlly:
So no police check point in north like every areas in Lagos?


Not sure this can happen in Lagos

The area is located in a remote region in the North, and this area is sparsely populated.

Seriously, travel in some parts of the North...you can go for miles without seeing a soul...especially in places like Borno and Yobe states.

nairalanda1:


The chance is, the security forces know where the kids are by now. And the chance is, if the security forces move in to rescue the kids...the bandits would kill the victims, and then turn to face the security forces.

That is why it took so long to free the chibok girls.

IN cases like this, unless you are prepared to be like the Russians and risk having some kidnap victims die in any operation to free them, at the end you will negotiate with the bandits, and you will pay their price. Chibok, Dapchi, Katsina, and BIrnin kebbi, and the Kaduna train blast are all good examples.

The problem is, most of us don't want our loved ones to die. I don;t want my loved one to die. So, politicans sanction negotiation and eventually payment.

This your write up sounds like another town hall balablu to me. Assuming security forces has known where they are, as u said. Ransom was paid, and they students were released. Why has our security not attacked those enclaves after the release? Chibok, Dapchi, etc etc. Abqcha said if it lasts after 24hrs, govt is part of it. Full stop. Within next few days these kids will be released, govt will use it as a propaganda and that's the end of it.

insider must be in that school. easiest way to extort money from government

nairalanda1:


Kaduna state , like many Northern states, are large and big states with large areas that are sparsely populated.

And the place where they were kidnapped....is a remote rural village. All it takes is a gang of thugs, who come in, and know all the routes and also take the victims via routes not known to the security forces.

And then, there is the fact that the security forces have located the kids now. But if they move in,there is the chance the bandits would slaughter the children or use them as human shields.

IN 2014, a german expat was kidnapped at Sokoto. DSS located where he was, and a joint team of DSS, Army and police moved in. And as soon as the thugs saw the cops, they killed the german.

Add the fact that parents want their kids alive...and the negotiation route becomes the only option.

It is very likely some powerful elements are behind this, but it is also likely the bandits are their own people. And they have the government and the people by the balls. Send in the army, the kids die.


Me, I think they should allow the army do its thing. But the sad thing is, kids are going to die. ANd most Nigerians do not want that.

Army is uncordinated and compromised. I believe an elite squad trained by the Mercs answerable only to the president will do

comodo:

This your write up sounds like another town hall balablu to me. Assuming security forces has known where they are, as u said. Ransom was paid, and they students were released. Why has our security not attacked those enclaves after the release? Chibok, Dapchi, etc etc. Abqcha said if it lasts after 24hrs, govt is part of it. Full stop. Within next few days these kids will be released, govt will use it as a propaganda and that's the end of it.

Yes ransom was paid because at the end, parents want their children alive.

If the security forces attempt a rescue, there is a chance the bandits will kill the kidnapped victims. Replace the bandits with Boko, and there is a chance the kids would die increases.

Oga, I am not defending any government. I even blame them for doing nothing about the conditons that led to the banditry.

I am just trying to see how, at the end of the day, why Nigerians pay ransom, instead of allowing the law to do its thing.

Lavor234:

Army is uncordinated and compromised. I believe an elite squad trained by the Mercs answerable only to the president will do

Yes, we need a specialist force

But even then, there is a chance some of the kidnapped would die. And people hate it when their kids or loved ones die. Politicans hate it because it can be used as propaganda against them.

So, the goverment and parents...wrongly in my opinion...resort to negotiation.

Sharia Criminal Law things. Taqqiya,

Weakening Nigerians before final Taliban-like onslaught.

nairalanda1:


Yes, we need a specialist force

But even then, there is a chance some of the kidnapped would die. And people hate it when their kids or loved ones die. Politicans hate it because it can be used as propaganda against them.

So, the goverment and parents...wrongly in my opinion...resort to negotiation.

the intention for this measure is to deter this from happening, paying the bandits is appeasing the crocodile, unfortunately, the crocodile cannot be appeased any further. Tinubu should nip it in the bud so he can focus on other matters.
All our resources cannot be used to appease terrorists anymore.
Go for the sponsors, take them out one by one, it should not be obvious, just news reels that so and so died in an accident, coordinated take out, then for the kidnappers, if they persist, create a special elite squad, secret squad, I prefer they don't use the police of the army, I rather NCDC, Viggilantes trained by Mercs.
Heart go touch ground.