Emusan:


Or maybe as everyone gets to the church, they started throwing chairs, stick and stone to each other

Na im go fit tell us wetin e really see about others

Maximus692:


Our King said we are no part of the world {John 17 :14} so we don't expect the world to say positive things about us nah! Matthew 5:11-12

Your King love the world and die for the world despite being no part of it. Wetin your brains sabi pass madness and insanities peddling

TrumpBiden:


🤣🤣🤣🤣

Damn these guys are programmed. Real life robots. They hate who they're told to hate even if the person is their blood. The heartlessly let their love ones roam the streets homeless just for refusing to attend the cult

That's how you know it is a Satanic Cult masquerading as a Christian religion to Deceive many. Death and hatred follows the Jehovah's Witnesses. Anywhere the Holy Spirit resides must have it's fruitage in there. But as for Jehovah's Witnesses, A very dark cloud follows them. It is not normal. It is what their Watchtower leaders have convenanted. See how JWs reason in these shots below. This isn't normal.

Emusan:


But you just pointed out someone who says POSITIVE thing about you?

Was the person from heaven?

That person is no part of this world.

achorladey:

That person is no part of this world.

YES!
His thinking is unbiased!

Negroid001:


This one dinnur concern me.
Personally to me. Jw ranks highest amongst all Christian dominations.

Only ish is...
Who tell una say Angel Micheal na Jesus?
I read a book by jw about the book of revelation when i was little, they transcribed it and came up with all sorts of imaginary jargons like bringing up the united nations.
At my workplace, a jw colleague and a Pentecostal one always argue about the bible and i usually enjoy it as both of them are false to me. Y'all believe you're the holiest and i feel that's a very big mistake.

Am sorry I can’t answer all the mentions because I don’t work or preach on nairaland but I will answer you the little I can , u put jw for highest rank but u are objective to some of our teachings, well it’s okay I wasn’t born a jw I was also a Pentecostal goer until I learnt what it’s requires of us from my grand creator , what I know is not everything I will understand now , just like when you are in school not all subject you value or understand later when I have above the stage , I am totally convinced am not being led in a wrong way. It’s the truth and I work for my truth , most of people here antagonizing jw( u might not be among) were x jw, they left because they are arrogant and not ready to make corrections in their own life . They now start holding grudges and it led to this , lying and confusing people , we have elders in the body of Christian congregations but they don’t lord us , they serve us but how will I explain to you when you are learning from apostate. Jehovah’s Witness are imperfect, sometimes we do mistakes and correct ourselves openly. But bible truth is different from all this we are taking . We are still actively preaching and proclaiming the good news and soon judgement messages .

kokolet007:

I wasn’t born a jw I was also a Pentecostal goer until I learnt what it’s requires of us from my grand creator.

Hmmmmmm now i know the meaning of the question you asked!

kokolet007:

Yes very true , can you interpret the Bible?

kokolet007:

Yes very true , can you interpret the Bible ?

So you believe that the Governing Body is equal to Christ?

Thank you for your answer.

To answer your question, let me enlighten you a bit.

There are two methods of biblical interpretation - EXEGESIS and EISEGESIS

Exegesis is the exposition or explanation of a text based on a careful, objective analysis. The word exegesis literally means “to lead out of.” That means that the interpreter is led to his conclusions by following the text.

The opposite approach to Scripture is eisegesis, which is the interpretation of a passage based on a subjective, non-analytical reading. The word eisegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants.

Instead of following the path of EXEGESIS by allowing the scriptures to speak for itself, your Governing Body has instead chose the path of EISEGESIS.

They have forced their own ideas upon the scriptures making it mean what ever they want.

For example, what does 2 John 9 - 11 say?

2 John 1:9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

2 John 1:10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them.

2 John 1:11 Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.

If we follow the right path of EXEGESIS and allow the scripture to speak for itself, we find out this scripture clearly states that if a person does not continue in the teachings of Christ, then you can decide to not welcome them to your home or greet them.

On the other hand, how does your Governing Body interpret the above verses?

By following their flawed method of EISEGESIS, they have forced their own ideas and claimed that the above scripture is the basis for their disfellowshiping and shunning doctrine.

Governing Body member Mark Sanderson claimed that the above scripture was talking about apostates.

But is that really true?

Have apostates gone against the teachings of Christ or against the teachings of the Governing Body?

Another example of EISEGESIS by the Governing Body is the doctrine of 1914.

There is no single verse in the Bible that mentions 1914 - so where did they pull that out of?

Simple, by forcing their own ideas into Daniel's prophecy.

There are many more examples.

So if I may ask, in your opinion, what is the best way to interpret the Bible?

EXEGESIS or EISEGESIS?

Well, the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are discreet and have insight. The adjustment and directions on dressing is to avoid any differences that may arise since we all have different tastes in appearance. Some are quite rigid, even insisting on how others should dress and groom even when there's nothing wrong with the clothing. Some elderly ones think young ones trousers should be around navel level and trousers should be near baggy. Everyone must make his own sound choice in the kind of dress he wants. This direction coming from the Governing Body is important to all... The whole world knows that our dressing differs but Jehovah's Witnesses are decent and modest in their style of dressing... Loving insight

The disfellowshipping arrangement still stands. The unrepentant sinner is removed from the cong but attending meetings is one way to show he repents of his actions so we welcome him with just a greeting and can invite him to the congregation. Very loving arrangement

We thank Jehovah for the faithful and discreet slave. Only fools will listen to lies and distortions of critics...

Allow the Governing Body to guide Jehovah's people and they are doing well. Such unity! Let the Apostates form their own umbrella of those handed over to Satan. They don't have peace, only to make false accusations
No peace for the Apostates wicked. Says my God

Courz:


The Governing body didn't tell them. Let's just say when you taste freedom small, you will want It to remain that way. The COVID period has changed how JWs Preach. They are slacking. Some will rather do it online or through phone calls. The Governing body saw how JWS are slacking when they report very low hours or no hours at all. So, they made a change to scrap reporting of hours. These changes they make are always reactionary based on what they are seeing.

this post thus show that u know nothing abt the denomination!

AntiChristian:
Na so so software updates for churches!

I'm dropping update on the Quran n Mohammed tomorrow
This one has sure references from Suras n Hadith
Let everyone hear the kind of lifestyle Muhammad led that Muslims will not tell us... Looting, raping, killing, adultery
Stay tuned

They are just adjustment, the members are still loyal, dont drink panadol for another persons headache!

riczy:
They are just adjustment, the members are still loyal, dont drink panadol for another persons headache!

For over a 100 years, the Catholic Church has made countless "adjustments" but your religion kept on criticizing them.

Your religion calls all other religions - FALSE RELIGION.

Why did your religion keep taking panadol for the headache of Catholics?

What is good for the goose is also good for gander.

Stop complaining about critics unless you have something to hide.

riczy:
They are just adjustment, the members are still loyal, dont drink panadol for another persons headache!

💯

riczy:
this post thus show that u know nothing abt the denomination!

Let him kill himself
Scriptures is clear
No peace for the Apostates
We are grateful for the refinements and readjustments we receive and we'll humbly welcome... They wail and gnash teeth in utter darkness

Maximus692:


YES!
His thinking is unbiased!

definitely he is from heaven or it is the unbiased thinking thst made him no part of this world.

Na so your madness and insanities peddling dey work. Your biased filled madness and insanities peddling brains left post meant for you to respond to this. Loooool

riczy:
this post thus show that u know nothing abt the denomination!

for inside your mind. Looool

Proudly JW
See stupid lies
Only a fool will form lies and half-truths and propaganda and still react to it

Last thing GB will do is listen to Apostates or the nonsense in their forum. A man with clear vision does not seek directions from a blind man...

JWs dress decently n modestly
They have high moral standards, very high
They remove wrongdoers to avoid their negative influence on others
They are actively preaching God's kingdom in every language and globally
The only group that do not take part ij wars and conflicts
Nationalism n ethnicity does not separate them

Thank Jehovah for his organization

achorladey:


You dey whine me?

No, for real. Do your findings

😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

Jehovah's Witness Men and S£x. Perverts. Make this thing no cause commotion o.

jaeyking:
It don tay I even see this people for Street oo

Abi Governing council say make dem no dey go house to house again

My brother then still dey oo

@Courz, I used 'sent away', probably I could say you were sacked/dismissed. This is my reasoning with experience interacting with different people. In a well organized company, one of these 3 will definitely happen to you: retirement, resignation, dismissal/retrenchment

People who fall in the 3rd category will talk negative about the company without telling you why he was dismissed. They will never say anything good. The reason why we drop resignation or retirement is so that we do not misrepresent the company in any capacity and I rarely see these categories of people talk about the company in any way.

Just like any organization that make changes to their policy, anyone who is dissatisfied should resign and leave than bad-mouth such company. I also said JWs are peaceable because they can accept any insult in the name of their religion without retaliating which you can never try with some other religious organizations.

On a positive side, you seem to be intelligent which is a trait I have observed in JWs. Is there a secret you guys get from somewhere? I will like to work with you on a task because intelligent people makes my work so easy.

Maximus692:


Jesus said for being peaceable and friendly his disciples will be the talk of the whole world {Matthew 5:14-16} yet they will be hated for his sake {Matthew 24:9} because they will always stick to what he taught them! John 15:19

So even though they're relatively small in number across the globe they're a formidable force that all people must reckon with!

Obviously, many people don't understand the jw people.

I see many people here calling them cults.

I think I can suggest something: each person here should do his own research and stop spreading them say them say information.

Even the bible self, most church people don't read or know what's inside.

Guys, stop listening to hearsay.

Own your truth.

As for me, I'm gonna do some research into truth about this jw people. I will also do research about what the bible say Christians must do.

Whatever I find, I'll share. Follow me

Courz:
Based on the New Governing Body Update in the Jehovah's witness website, certain changes have been announced as a response to their heavy loss of Memberships and loss in Court cases. These changes are minor but serious to the typical Jehovah's Witness who has taken the words of the Governing body members way too seriously.

The changes are as follows:

1. The Governing body has decided that Jehovah's Witnesses can now use their Bible trained conscience to greet Disfellowshipped people ( people who have been expelled from the congregation based on a wrong doing). Jehovah's Witnesses are only to have brief interactions with them but still are not encouraged to socialise with them.

This little change was made because the religion has come under fire for their Disfellowshipping doctrine in different Court cases. Because of this doctrine, Jehovah's Witnesses lost their registration in Norway. The Norwegian government ceased giving grants to the Cult and no longer recognise them as a Religion. They are also no longer permitted to conduct Marriages in that country.

2.The Governing body has decided that Underaged Children/Minors are no longer required to be in a judicial committee for Wrongdoing. The parents and the Elders have their role to play in talking with the Minor and if the minor is of good behaviour, a judicial committee is not necessary. This change is also as a result of Jehovah's Witnesses loss in the Court case involving the Norwegian government. The Norwegian government deregistered the Religion when they found out that Underaged Children are disfellowshipped and are shunned by their Families. This is Discrimination in the eyes of Norway and against their rules for religious institutions who are interested in receiving Government grants. So, money is the motivation behind this change.

3. Jehovah's Witness Women are now allowed to wear Trousers to the Kingdom hall, to the Ministry and to Conventions. The mode of dressing with trousers must not be Casual. When they have parts to be done in the Kingdom hall or Conventions, they must wear skirts. When visiting Bethel Headquarters, they are to be dressed in skirts or dresses.

This change came because EXJWS who have left the religion have been making these suggestions. Sometimes, this suggestion is made as a joke and was very popular in ExJW Reddit Forum. It is quite a shock that the Governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses listened to the ExJWs that they call Apostates. There have been reports that there are agents of Watchtower spying in the ExJW Reddit Forum, listening and taking notes of what is being discussed. Afterwards, their suggestions are implemented in the name of New Light. They believe that when they make these changes, it would move EXJWS to come back to the religion. So, who is running the JW Religion, Apostates or the Governing body?

4. Jehovah's Witness Men must not wear ties and jackets to the Kingdom hall, to the ministry and to Conventions. They are only to wear Ties and jackets when they are giving parts/Talks. They are also to be dressed in ties and jackets when visiting the Bethel Headquarters.
Earlier, it was announced that they are free to grow beards. The Governing body member giving this update in the video below had a full beard.


It is evident that a lot of changes are a response to a dying religion and they are doing their best to rebrand themselves to make themselves more appealing to the public.

Video below:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD5e8OqLOdo?si=qrPCVXZGzhqCwEIS

Lol.

After going through each page I came to realize how jobless you are. What will you gain from spreading these falsehood and misconception about JW's and their adjustments? Only you open different moniker and where just replying yourself, from
Courz to achorladey to oteneaaron and many others is just you replying yourself

You must truly hate these people o

JW's are the best people from my experience with them, they helped me and many others in my community a great deal. That's a story for another day.

Courz:
There are lessons to be learned in this. These changes show that;

1. The religion has always been Man made. Their rules have always been rules by Men to control people and are subject to changes when it is evident that they are not Biblical.

2. The changes show that humans can be led astray if they are not knowledgeable in the Bible.

3. The Governing body are scared of the World's government and when they are pressured to make changes, they will do so just to get approval from the world.

4. If their pockets or Bank accounts are running dry due to one doctrine or the other, the Governing body will make changes accordingly so as to get Money. These changes will be made under the guise of New Light. If they keep losing money in Courts due to one policy or doctrine, they will change that doctrine.

5. The religion is losing members at a fast pace and Kingdom halls, assembly halls and Bethel branches are being sold or are up for sale. When you watch this latest GB update above, you will see that the overall theme of the update is Membership retention. The Governing body member even appeals to disfellowshipped people to come back.

They are also listening to the tips provided by Apostates a.k.a EXJWS with the hope that they also will come back to the religion. Jehovah's Witnesses who are rejoicing over these changes should show some gratitude to the Apostates/EXJW Activists who have been fighting for years for changes to be made.

Watchtower is also trying to become More Mainstream just like every other Modern Church but at a slow pace so that it is not too shocking to Jehovah's Witnesses.

6. The changes show that Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is more of a Business Corporation than a religion. As mentioned earlier, anything that hurts their bank account will be changed. A typical Business losing profits will rebrand itself to look more appealing to help cut off these losses. Once you see Watchtower as a Business and not a Religion, you will understand the changes they are making. Since they don't take part in any Humanitarian activities, it is clear that they are truly a Business.

7. These changes also show that their doctrines are not Biblical and that the Governing body have always been wrong about everything while the Apostates have always been right. It also shows that they are not reliable and you stand at risk of being deceived and led to a pit should you take their words seriously. It shows that the Blind have been leading the Blind to an unknown destination.

8. These changes show that the Governing body values the views of Apostates and are willing to do what it takes to bring them back. It is beginning to look like the Apostates are the ones running the Jehovah's witness organisation.

Oh my! What a shallow way to reason

See, Over the years, I have been studying and followed closely different religious groups and I can say for sure that you know nothing about the JW's.

Emusan:


But you just pointed out someone who says POSITIVE thing about you?

Was the person from heaven?

You must be a lawyer. You are just nailing the guy left, right and center

Azaland:

Obviously, many people don't understand the jw people.
I see many people here calling them cults.
I think I can suggest something: each person here should do his own research and stop spreading them say them say information.
Even the bible self, most church people don't read or know what's inside.
Guys, stop listening to hearsay.
Own your truth.
As for me, I'm gonna do some research into truth about this jw people. I will also do research about what the bible say Christians must do.
Whatever I find, I'll share. Follow me

This is what Jesus said about his true followers:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

Can you see what is happening to them now?
As if Jesus is telling honest hearted and sincere individuals through this event:

"JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are my real disciples"

Otherwise how on earth could some people just wake up and start calling a group out of thousands of others "CULT" yet they can't point out any evil this group has done to the human society? John 3:19

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Mikeloo:
@Courz, I used 'sent away', probably I could say you were sacked/dismissed. This is my reasoning with experience interacting with different people. In a well organized company, one of these 3 will definitely happen to you: retirement, resignation, dismissal/retrenchment

People who fall in the 3rd category will talk negative about the company without telling you why he was dismissed. They will never say anything good. The reason why we drop resignation or retirement is so that we do not misrepresent the company in any capacity and I rarely see these categories of people talk about the company in any way.

Just like any organization that make changes to their policy, anyone who is dissatisfied should resign and leave than bad-mouth such company. I also said JWs are peaceable because they can accept any insult in the name of their religion without retaliating which you can never try with some other religious organizations.

On a positive side, you seem to be intelligent which is a trait I have observed in JWs. Is there a secret you guys get from somewhere? I will like to work with you on a task because intelligent people makes my work so easy.

The guy is cunny and manipulative
If you check all his posts and comments, it's just slander and nonsense directed towards one organization but he does not preach anything else.
JWs have high moral standards and they remove those who unrepentantly insist on wrong conduct. Other members won't socialize with the person to avoid negative influence . He must have done something really stupid but he's become like a worker who was sacked for bad conduct, he chooses to say bad things and lies against his former workplace to fool others. The OP is a liar. A bad liar at that. He even modifies comments... Everyone in NL knows that

SBX1:


Oh my! What a shallow way to reason

See, Over the years, I have been studying and followed closely different religious groups and I can say for sure that you know nothing about the JW's.

He's an Apostate
Leave him to continue spreading lies
He knows what he's doing

oteneaaron:


So you believe that the Governing Body is equal to Christ?

Thank you for your answer.

To answer your question, let me enlighten you a bit.

There are two methods of biblical interpretation - EXEGESIS and EISEGESIS

Exegesis is the exposition or explanation of a text based on a careful, objective analysis. The word exegesis literally means “to lead out of.” That means that the interpreter is led to his conclusions by following the text.

The opposite approach to Scripture is eisegesis, which is the interpretation of a passage based on a subjective, non-analytical reading. The word eisegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants.

Instead of following the path of EXEGESIS by allowing the scriptures to speak for itself, your Governing Body has instead chose the path of EISEGESIS.

They have forced their own ideas upon the scriptures making it mean what ever they want.

For example, what does 2 John 9 - 11 say?



If we follow the right path of EXEGESIS and allow the scripture to speak for itself, we find out this scripture clearly states that if a person does not continue in the teachings of Christ, then you can decide to not welcome them to your home or greet them.

On the other hand, how does your Governing Body interpret the above verses?

By following their flawed method of EISEGESIS, they have forced their own ideas and claimed that the above scripture is the basis for their disfellowshiping and shunning doctrine.

Governing Body member Mark Sanderson claimed that the above scripture was talking about apostates.

But is that really true?

Have apostates gone against the teachings of Christ or against the teachings of the Governing Body?

Another example of EISEGESIS by the Governing Body is the doctrine of 1914.

There is no single verse in the Bible that mentions 1914 - so where did they pull that out of?

Simple, by forcing their own ideas into Daniel's prophecy.

There are many more examples.

So if I may ask, in your opinion, what is the best way to interpret the Bible?

EXEGESIS or EISEGESIS?

Nobody is forced to believe anything you don’t want to believe, you can’t interpret bible with your own logic and reasoning,2john vs 11 was affirmative not suggesting sentence, go back and read and about 1914 do you know jw preached about it before 1914, what does it mean to you ? Or I will say what a coincidence right ? Like I said I know you are a x jw , after you have made your choice has any elder threatening you to come back? They can only help you when it was looking fresh but at this point nobody will love to have a conversation with you because you understand the Bible better than everyone but you haven’t started your own religion yet?
Apostasy is learning of lies and misinformation to misled people , you know it’s not jw that wrote the Bible , continue with your lies.

kokolet007:

Nobody is forced to believe anything you don’t want to believe, you can’t interpret bible with your own logic and reasoning,2john vs 11 was affirmative not suggesting sentence, go back and read and about 1914 do you know jw preached about it before 1914, what does it mean to you ? Or I will say what a coincidence right ? Like I said I know you are a x jw , after you have made your choice has any elder threatening you to come back? They can only help you when it was looking fresh but at this point nobody will love to have a conversation with you because you understand the Bible better than everyone and you haven’t started your own religion

Good one sis
He's an Apostate
He has atleast 3 different monikers (account) to pursue his idiotic propaganda. He's the OP, he opened a female account
If you really see his posts, you see that he's really sick in the head. He can even twist your comments
Interestingly, he does not mention any other religion or organization. He believes he has the truth but he is alone. Any group of believers ar3 cult according to him but he only attacks JW. His nonsense helps me to see the danger of apostasy

Aemmyjah:


Good one sis
He's an Apostate
He has atleast 3 different monikers (account) to pursue his idiotic propaganda. He's the OP, he opened a female account
If you really see his posts, you see that he's really sick in the head. He can even twist your comments
Interestingly, he does not mention any other religion or organization. He believes he has the truth but he is alone. Any group of believers ar3 cult according to him but he only attacks JW. His nonsense helps me to see the danger of apostasy

He’s so bitter! All he need is to be truly repentant and go back to Jehovah but instead their arrogant and pride will lead them to more sin . That’s why the Bible said the humble ones will receive Jehovah’s blessings