Mikeloo:
@Courz, I used 'sent away', probably I could say you were sacked/dismissed. This is my reasoning with experience interacting with different people. In a well organized company, one of these 3 will definitely happen to you: retirement, resignation, dismissal/retrenchment

People who fall in the 3rd category will talk negative about the company without telling you why he was dismissed. They will never say anything good. The reason why we drop resignation or retirement is so that we do not misrepresent the company in any capacity and I rarely see these categories of people talk about the company in any way.

Just like any organization that make changes to their policy, anyone who is dissatisfied should resign and leave than bad-mouth such company. I also said JWs are peaceable because they can accept any insult in the name of their religion without retaliating which you can never try with some other religious organizations.

On a positive side, you seem to be intelligent which is a trait I have observed in JWs. Is there a secret you guys get from somewhere? I will like to work with you on a task because intelligent people makes my work so easy.

@Courz, I used 'sent away', probably I could say you were sacked/dismissed.

This is my reasoning with experience interacting with different people.

In a well organized company, one of these 3 will definitely happen to you: retirement, resignation, dismissal/retrenchment

People who fall in the 3rd category will talk negative about the company without telling you why he was dismissed.

They will never say anything good.

The reason why we drop resignation or retirement is so that we do not misrepresent the company in any capacity and I rarely see these categories of people talk about the company in any way.

Just like any organization that make changes to their policy, anyone who is dissatisfied should resign and leave than bad-mouth such company.

I also said JWs are peaceable because they can accept any insult in the name of their religion without retaliating which you can never try with some other religious organizations.

On a positive side, you seem to be intelligent which is a trait I have observed in JWs.

Is there a secret you guys get from somewhere?

I will like to work with you on a task because intelligent people makes my work so easy.

Maximus692:
"Nature teaches that you must give your needy neighbour."
Funny atheists!

Maximus692:


Hmmmmmmmmmmm most people often take religion as evil altogether because of the havoc caused by false religions.
Well religion is like food you don't eat at all the body suffers and if you eat poisonous food the body suffers that's why you need to find out the true religion!

Courz:
Some people who have contacts from the Bethel Headquarters are revealing that more changes are coming. The Birthday doctrine was mentioned as one of them. Well, time will tell if that's true. I have said it before that Jehovah's Witnesses need to prepare themselves for more changes. They should remember that these changes are because

1. They are rebranding to become just like every other church to keep the eyes of the governmental authorities away from them.

2. They want Free money from the World, the same world They call Satan's world. They need access to grants that are in millions of dollars from different governments in the world. Unfortunately, Jehovah's Witnesses do not have access to these grants. They pocket the money as the typical Business that they are.

3. Their religion has been in trouble with governmental authorities in different countries for their destructive policies.

4. These changes are not because they suddenly got New Light from Jehovah. They are reacting to incoming trouble which is why they use the phrase "The Governing body has decided".

5. These changes are because things are not well with them. They are signs of Trouble happening in the background that they are hiding from Jehovah's Witnesses.

Because of their recent loss in the Court case with the Norwegian government, some other countries are joining to investigate them. The Governing body are smelling trouble coming and are making changes accordingly. They are on a slow project to be become more mainstream like other churches and are trying to look less Culty.

Jehovah's Witnesses will always be seen as a Cult as long as they haven't done the Real Doctrinal changes that identify them as a Cult.

To show you the Mental state of Jehovah's Witnesses regarding these changes, here are some comments praising the change and calling it Love and Mercy from Jehovah. Meaning, Jehovah was wicked to have restricted them in the first place.

Mental illness is an epidemic in the religion.

Azaland:

Obviously, many people don't understand the jw people.

I see many people here calling them cults.

I think I can suggest something: each person here should do his own research and stop spreading them say them say information.

Even the bible self, most church people don't read or know what's inside.

Guys, stop listening to hearsay.

Own your truth.

As for me, I'm gonna do some research into truth about this jw people. I will also do research about what the bible say Christians must do.

Whatever I find, I'll share. Follow me

Obviously, many people don't understand the jw people.

I see many people here calling them cults.

I think I can suggest something: each person here should do his own research and stop spreading them say them say information.

Even the bible self, most church people don't read or know what's inside.

Guys, stop listening to hearsay.

Own your truth.

As for me, I'm gonna do some research into truth about this jw people. I will also do research about what the bible say Christians must do.

Whatever I find, I'll share. Follow me

Maximus692:
What the Bible and nature teaches is highly commendable but how will those who doesn't want to listen to God's organization understand this?

Nature teaches us that it's wrong for humans to dominate humans because that's what promotes all sort of injurious things so this is what nature teaches that all men should be equal in whatever we have so nobody looks onto his or her neighbour for financial support under God's Kingdom everyone will have equal share in whatever the earth produces.

Let's say from the president to the man that's sweeping the streets we are all earning the same amount and have the same benefits do you people think anyone will think of stealing from his neighbour?

Each person will be useful in whatever capacity he fits in and wholeheartedly everyone will work to improve whatever the planet is producing, there will be nothing like greed since we have all agreed on equality no thugs, no police, no prisons, no injustice the whole planet will be filled with people who loves exchanging visits from one end of the planet to the other.

But when you think some should give less privilege ones please who will not like to be in the position of givers when everyone will be praising him or her like a demigod?
Well that's why ritualists are everywhere they will do whatever it takes just to become rich then come out for showy display of their what they have accumulated with greed.

Ọmọ that's not what nature teaches rather we all should be equal in everything that's when there will be true peace and security nobody needs to give anybody we should all have in abundance!

Westerhoffe:



All those I quoted are nowhere to be found on this thread as at the time I made the last comment you quoted.

akinmusi:

Ehn ehn. Hmmm. I am speechless

kokolet007:

Am sorry I can’t answer all the mentions because I don’t work or preach on nairaland but I will answer you the little I can , u put jw for highest rank but u are objective to some of our teachings, well it’s okay I wasn’t born a jw I was also a Pentecostal goer until I learnt what it’s requires of us from my grand creator , what I know is not everything I will understand now , just like when you are in school not all subject you value or understand later when I have above the stage , I am totally convinced am not being led in a wrong way. It’s the truth and I work for my truth , most of people here antagonizing jw( u might not be among) were x jw, they left because they are arrogant and not ready to make corrections in their own life . They now start holding grudges and it led to this , lying and confusing people , we have elders in the body of Christian congregations but they don’t lord us , they serve us but how will I explain to you when you are learning from apostate. Jehovah’s Witness are imperfect, sometimes we do mistakes and correct ourselves openly. But bible truth is different from all this we are taking . We are still actively preaching and proclaiming the good news and soon judgement messages .

SBX1:


Lol.

After going through each page I came to realize how jobless you are. What will you gain from spreading these falsehood and misconception about JW's and their adjustments? Only you open different moniker and where just replying yourself, from
Courz to achorladey to oteneaaron and many others is just you replying yourself

You must truly hate these people o

JW's are the best people from my experience with them, they helped me and many others in my community a great deal. That's a story for another day.

Lol.

After going through each page I came to realize how jobless you are.

What will you gain from spreading these falsehood and misconception about JW's and their adjustments?

Only you open different moniker and where just replying yourself, from Courz to achorladey to oteneaaron and many others is just you replying yourself

You must truly hate these people o

JW's are the best people from my experience with them

They helped me and many others in my community a great deal. That's a story for another day.

Negroid001:

I have no ish whatsoever with jw.
You haven't answered my questions tho.

Maximus692:


Who is Jesus to you?

If an organization of people numbering millions throughout the earth are perfectly fulfilling what God's word promised in this end time and they said the identity of the person leading them is Archangel Michael why not present a better performing group that's being led by your own Jesus?

Negroid001:

Jesus doesn't exist in my own dictionary.
Are you a jw?

Maximus692:

By the undeserved kindness of Jehovah, YES!

advocatejare:

Ode, oya list the New Testament and the Old Testament and where you will see such in the Bible.

Gbajue eru Baallah

Negroid001:

State your reasons for saying Michael is Jesus.
Why do y'all come up all sort of imaginary bible revelations?

Maximus692:


The book Bible was written thousands of years ago so i have no power to add or subtract from what was written in this book but when it comes to reading and meditation i can figure out if what this book says is factual or just a myth.

This is what the Bible says about Michael:

“During that time Miʹcha·el will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people." Daniel 12:1

What will this Prince do for those he is standing for?

Isaiah said:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:2-4

Who will lead this educational program that will help millions across the globe to embrace peace despite the harsh conditions their rulers are putting them through?

Isaiah still answered:

For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. To the increase of his rulership And to peace, there will be no end, On the throne of David and on his kingdom In order to establish it firmly and to sustain it Through justice and righteousness, From now on and forever. The zeal of Jehovah of armies will do this. Isaiah 9:6-7

Of all the religions on this planet only Jehovah's Witnesses have used the Bible to resolve all their disparities peacefully among themselves, diverted their resources into the production of food and information materials, stopped supporting military actions and vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again just as Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 said.

In fact it's as if this people have become one big global family speaking the same language because throughout the world people may see their fellow worshipers as someone from another nation or country but when it comes to Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the world people see them as if they're from the same country or nation despite their diverse cultures. Zephaniah 3:9

Now who is behind such remarkable fulfilment in the gathering of imperfect humans this people said it's Jesus who was formerly archangel Michael before his earthly course.

Even if i find it difficult to believe them as imperfect humans like me what about the things only them has been able to do in this time when the world is filled with hatred?

Negroid001:

You guys and assumption. You believe in something that's not in the bible. And you're trying to cover it up.

Negroid001:

Jesus doesn't exist in my own dictionary.

Maximus692:


That's not in the Bible or you're not interested in what the Bible teaches?

Remember you said



Or that was a mistake?

Negroid001:

Don't act smart.
Because I don't believe in a white man's fabricated god doesn't mean i haven't read the bible. Y'all act like you're all knowing without evidence. Angel Michael ain't Jesus. You people twist the bible to cover up falsehood.

That's how you transcribed the book of revelation. No evidence. Just assumptions.
Saying 1914 is the year satan was let loose.

Maximus692:


Guy reading differs from studying and God's word made it clear that the understanding of what is inspired can't be gotten through reading rather you must study the Bible with fellow believers asking questions so as to gain insight {Proverbs 2:1-5} without two or three other believers around you the one teaching won't come around {Matthew 18:20} and God won't send His angels to pen down your name for a remembrance! Malachi 3:16

So you've tried by reading the Bible but then you need fellow believers around you to study it together as a group otherwise you will end up calling it a story book or white man's book just as you're in fact doing right now!

Negroid001:

Keep twisting the bible. You'll meet it there

Maximus692:


Twisting when you don't even believe in it is that not funny?

advocatejare:

They are viewing the thread but are ashamed to make comments

Maximus692:


This is what Jesus said about his true followers:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

Can you see what is happening to them now?
As if Jesus is telling honest hearted and sincere individuals through this event:

"JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are my real disciples"

Otherwise how on earth could some people just wake up and start calling a group out of thousands of others "CULT" yet they can't point out any evil this group has done to the human society? John 3:19

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Otherwise how on earth could some people just wake up and start calling a group out of thousands of others "CULT" yet they can't point out any evil this group has done to the human society? John 3:19

Negroid001:

Wetin concern me. People wey fit you dey criticize you. You have nothing to say. I know so many jw are living double lives. Homosexuals, closet smokers and alcoholics. I've swiped some of your members sef.

I asked a simple question. You are giving me lengthy replies with no direction. Where in the bible did they say angel Micheal is Jesus.
Why do you claim 1914 is the year satan was released?

Don't give me a lengthy just state where it is in the bible.

Sand2022:


You know I didn't take the rebranding suggestion at reddit serious until this current change. And this change was what the guy who predicted that the GB was trying to rebrand the org said. The other prediction was on birthdays.

Initially I thought that was crazy, but the guy is informed. I mean the slacks permission is way beyond my imagination. I just don't know the type of org they want to finally create.some have suggested a Megachurch type of church.

On the disfellowshiping. This is a good change that I appreciate, although it is kind of stingy a bit. But at least, it is something positive. The GB always go half way in applying the scriptures. I don't know if that is deliberate or it's still because they aren't thorough in their research. Mark Sanderson cited example of how God was merciful to the wayward Israelites over a long period of time, and Jesus given false prophetess Jezebel time to repent, and all they could learn is that it applies to immoral sinners and not to apostates? Seriously?

What was the major sin of the Israelites to which Jehovah warned them for decades? Isn't it apostasy? Was Jezebel's sin to which Jesus have her time not involve apostasy? Sometimes when they commit this scriptural blunders I wonder, what really is the problem here, is it that their researchers don't do a thorough job or the GB don't follow their advise? Perhaps I will analyse the recent change scripturally in a future post. I wonder why they always leave out something to change in the future when they are close to doing a clean job already. Do they enjoy making frequent changes.?

Aemmyjah:


The guy is cunny and manipulative
If you check all his posts and comments, it's just slander and nonsense directed towards one organization but he does not preach anything else.
JWs have high moral standards and they remove those who unrepentantly insist on wrong conduct. Other members won't socialize with the person to avoid negative influence . He must have done something really stupid but he's become like a worker who was sacked for bad conduct, he chooses to say bad things and lies against his former workplace to fool others. The OP is a liar. A bad liar at that. He even modifies comments... Everyone in NL knows that

The guy is cunny and manipulative

If you check all his posts and comments, it's just slander and nonsense directed towards one organization but he does not preach anything else.

JWs have high moral standards and they remove those who unrepentantly insist on wrong conduct.

Other members won't socialize with the person to avoid negative influence

He must have done something really stupid but he's become like a worker who was sacked for bad conduct, he chooses to say bad things and lies against his former workplace to fool others.

He even modifies comments... Everyone in NL knows that

Aemmyjah:


He's an Apostate
Leave him to continue spreading lies
He knows what he's doing