oluwaseyi0:

Because they never believe in that heaven in the first place

They believe in US/UK/Canada hence they will fume if you tell them you are granting them a US visa but they should only come when they are 90+ of age

If you grant an average Nigerian Christian or Muslim visa to a better country today with grantee of good job, HMO, great health package, good and rent-free house and any/everything they dream of then ask them when they want to come they will tell you this month or latest next month

Why is this same urgency not applicable to heaven? Why go later why you can start enjoying now, why wait till your eyes are blurry, skin wrinkle, teeth almost falling off, six-pack gone, beauty faded and all the terrible experiences of staying alive happens to you

No one goes to Heaven immediately after death, all the dead are asleep in their graves, till the day of judgement.

chieveboy:
Religious confusion, ignorance and fear are the answer.

This subject leaves the average religionist dazed from the back and forth involved. He thanks God every morning for not allowing him to die to go to heaven to be with him and also ask God to not let him die...Huh

My spiritual path teaches you that you can visit heaven even before you die. This is because these so-called heavens are not designations and destinations outside of yourself.

Everyone is literally an intricate composite of all of the heavenly worlds. "Heaven is within you".

You learn the subtle art of dying daily which everyone does naturally anyways and calls it "a dream". The next phase is to be conscious in dreams and you have visited a heaven of your choice.

Pure Wishful thinking.

No evidence or facts in your comments.

Kenneth4u205:
Foolish op . Death is not the only way to heaven. Every holy ghost filled Christian visit heaven daily in visions, trance and teleportation.while average Christians visit heaven daily in their dreams, although the forget on waking up .

Stop displaying your ignorance in public

This one na Wishful thoughts , not facts.

Holy ghost Christains vist where?

You dey play

ExtremeDot:
People fear death because death is the end of it all. The end of everything for that individual.

Your heaven or hell is here on this earth.

No fucking life after death.

Says Mr creator.

Dey play rough play.

Shikena:
Can you give a few examples of where the Bible confirmed that the soul dies?

Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Revelation 16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

Kenneth4u205:
Mr proof. What proof do you have that people go to heaven when they die ?. You are just an ignorant nairalander. I've been in the occult world before becoming a Christian. Those in the occult world visit their demonic kingdom daily through astra projection and travel. Even witches travel each night. You don't need to die before you can visit your kingdom. I know your little mind can not comprehend that we are dual in nature.we exist here on earth and heaven at the same time

I laugh at you, all those occult teachings and projections and whatever are all lies and delusions.

blueAgent:


No one goes to Heaven immediately after death, all the dead are asleep in their graves, till the day of judgement.

lol, asleep in their grave, you mean their rotten bones?

what about people who are cremated? I guess they were asleep in the bottle or river where their ash was spread

and people that were eaten by wild animals or cannibals? their babecued body is asleep in the wild animal bodies

oluwaseyi0:


lol, asleep in their grave, you mean their rotten bones?

what about people who are cremated? I guess they were asleep in the bottle or river where their ash was spread

and people that were eaten by wild animals or cannibals? their babecued body is asleep in the wild animal bodies

The word asleep is not literally, it's figurative.

It means they are in a state of unconsciousness, a state of non existence.

blueAgent:

The word asleep is not literally, it's figurative.

It means they are in a state of unconsciousness, a state of non existence.

hmmm, a state of non existence

a state of nonexistence after death just like before birth, interesting


maybe we will be re-created again after death just like we were created before death

Omooba77:
Why does most people fear death; yet the way to heaven?

Fear of leaving love ones behind especially if they depend on him to survive

kingxsamz:
The fact is those who believe in heaven don't really want to go there because they know how insanely boring it'll be. It's almost like torture. Imagine living for eternity in one place, serving a god forever with no football, movies, parties, games, music from your favourite artists, concerts, phones or social media. Your only purpose is to praise and worship a god for eternity. And I'm sure most people who believe in heaven and hell would rather prefer to die and become nonexistent than to exist in heaven forever. it's just that hell is not favourable, so they can only go with the better choice.
That's why pastors move around with body guards and armed men because they don't want to d!e. It's why they collect tithes and attain wealth because they know they won't have that experience in heaven. Good thing it doesn't exist.

Your whole imagination of heaven is vain and foolish. There is nothing boring about heaven. Infact, there are more varieties of things and activities in heaven and spiritual realms than there are yet in the physical world of mankind.

But even if it is about doing the same things in even, it is far from being boring. For instance, if a man is doing the same thing on earth repeatedly, it gets boring because it is part of the works of the earth to be consumed with boredom and vanity. But on the other hand, doing the same thing over and over in heaven never generates boredom but generates wonders and more revelation of glory the more the same thing is repeated.

I really do not want to call you a fool, but you are really far from true realities of the presence of God and the heavens.

blueAgent:


Pure Wishful thinking.

No evidence or facts in your comments.

Indeed, no evidence for people having dreams when they sleep. It's subjective.

What about you...are you not afraid of death

Omooba77:
Why does most people fear death; yet the way to heaven?

... Nigeria is the real hell. Once you are a Nigerian, no more hell for you. You are already in hell.

Arobaga:
Why do Muslims run away from a moving truck




Yet it the only way to gain 7 brand new virgins

Why Jesus said on the cross "Eli, Eli Lamasabktani" "God, God! Why do you forsaken me?" In other words, the reason why biblical Jesus don't want to die that is why Muslims don't want to die, not because of 300virgins in PORN SONGS OF SOLOMON in the Bible.

Thank you.

blueAgent:


Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Revelation 16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

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uwakwekamubu:



What of those that are not Christian?

Have it in mind ,that you're what you believe.

They would be judged according to their works that include the opportunity that was given to them to know the creator.
If anyone truly wants God, Christ would reveal himself to them.

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Abraham for example didn't know christ as christ was not yet born but he trusted in God and he saw christ day and rejoiced.

Shikena:
Thank you.

U are welcome.

chieveboy:


Indeed, no evidence for people having dreams when they sleep. It's subjective.

Of course ppl have dreams, but no one has been to heaven weather through dream or trance.

EmiloCorn:
Some people want to go to hell instead

So to them, being in nigeria is enough no need to die again

But my oga is going to change that narrative

Highest within 8 years

Na flour paste full that ur oga medulla,..no offence... peace

Creamypie:
I just laugh when i saw video of mr ibu say make psquare call am namar if e no make "heaven". Mr ibu isn't in heaven. He's in the grave, and not existing in a different form/ shape anywhere at all, and if God deems him qualified for Resurrection, when the time comes, then its Gods decision .Y do pastors travel abroad for treatments on cost of sheeple, while they " heal" sheeple when them no dey well? Fatoyinbo run go england hospital, when sickness nearly kill am here in naija. Oga, heaven is for spirit beings, earth is for flesh. Adam and eve were created on earth, and not in heaven. When they died, everything about them became nothing or dust. Dust we are and it we will return. Death is absence of life. Forget the lies by all pastors.

You are wrong.

You are a soul.

Your body is just a vessel you use to ‘exist’ meaningfully in this dimension.

If you lacked a body, you would be invisible.

What you call death is simply the shedding of the body when your time here is done.

You continue to exist. By ‘you’, I mean the YOU that is reading this right now. Your Consciousness.

It is IMMORTAL because it is of GOD. Your soul is like a droplet 💧 from an ocean of Consciousness which is GOD.

So you are God in human form.

All He did was allow a small part of His Consciousness to split up into trillions of Conscious Beings operating under an ILLUSION of being ‘separate’, ‘individual’ beings.

This is why we say that what we call the physical world is an ILLUSION. The ancient native Americans said the world is “Maya”. An illusion.

Even modern science is beginning to describe our world as a SIMULATION, similar to a Virtual Reality program. Your ‘headset’ is your body. What you call death is simply the removal of your headset.

I know they don’t teach you this in church or mosque because those two religions were created to confuse you, and tie you down to certain foreign interests.

But your traditional religion knows the truth of what I said.

Death is simply a Soul returning to his powerful pre-birth state of existence.

The reason we don’t know all this automatically as humans is that a ‘memory veil’ was placed over us before birth, so that we would participate as new beings on Earth without prior experience, knowledge or identity.

Many of us have lived SEVERAL LIVES in this Earth.

There are hypnosis regression experts that can put you under hypnosis and make you recall your past lives on this Earth, and even your life on the Other Side.

PCHC:


Your whole imagination of heaven is vain and foolish. There is nothing boring about heaven. Infact, there are more varieties of things and activities in heaven and spiritual realms than there are yet in the physical world of mankind.

But even if it is about doing the same things in even, it is far from being boring. For instance, if a man is doing the same thing on earth repeatedly, it gets boring because it is part of the works of the earth to be consumed with boredom and vanity. But on the other hand, doing the same thing over and over in heaven never generates boredom but generates wonders and more revelation of glory the more the same thing is repeated.

I really do not want to call you a fool, but you are really far from true realities of the presence of God and the heavens.

Keep deluding yourself and keep telling yourself that so you can feel better. Most Christians would rather live on earth than to serve some egomaniac sky daddy who cannot do without people worshipping him for eternity.

oluwaseyi0:


hmmm, a state of non existence

a state of nonexistence after death just like before birth, interesting


maybe we will be re-created again after death just like we were created before death

Yes.
Job 14:10 But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost[b], and where is he?
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Job 14:14[b] If a man die, shall he live again[/b]? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.

Job 10:18 Wherefore then hast thou brought me forth out of the womb? Oh that I had given up the ghost, and no eye had seen me! 10:19 I should have been as though I had not been; I should have been carried from the womb to the grave.

Topman7:


You are wrong.

You are a soul.

Your body is just a vessel you use to ‘exist’ meaningfully in this dimension.

If you lacked a body, you would be invisible.

What you call death is simply the shedding of the body when your time here is done.

You continue to exist. By ‘you’, I mean the YOU that is reading this right now. Your Consciousness.

It is IMMORTAL because it is of GOD.

I know they don’t teach you this in church or mosque because those two religions were created to confuse you, and tie you down to certain foreign interests.

But your traditional religion knows the truth of what I said.

Death is simply a Soul returning to his powerful pre-birth state.

LIES .. The dead are conscious of nothing. Ecclesiastes 9;5. And Ecclesiastes 3;19

Creamypie:
LIES .. The dead are conscious of nothing. Ecclesiastes 9;5.

You were LIED to by the Europeans who forged that text.

African religion and spiritual knowledge is older than your imported bible by HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

And African religion and spiritual knowledge from the priests of ancient KEMET and NUBIA to your village traditional priest acknowledge and CONFIRM the truth of everything I’ve said, about the IMMORTALITY OF THE SOUL.

But you’re free to believe the lies of the Roman/Arab control freak newcomers to civilisation about your being nothing but a worthless piece of shaki.

blueAgent:


Of course ppl have dreams, but no one has been to heaven weather through dream or trance.

That's what we're saying. The exact place s people have dreams at are actually part of the heavens.

People have been to grander heavens in dreams than the mundane ones or parts mist people will rather not refer to as a heaven. But then, it is what it is.

The conscious and unconscious heaven visitors are mostly the inventors of all our tech, philosophy and all.

Omooba77:

Why does most people fear death; yet the way to heaven?

It's because people love lies than the truth death is not the way to heaven at death we cease to exist that's why they are scared to die.

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES knows the truth about death that it means nonexistent our King cried and beg in tears when he discovered he must die {Hebrews 5:7} so how come some are saying it's the way to heaven?

chieveboy:


That's what we're saying. The exact place s people have dreams at are actually part of the heavens.

People have been to grander heavens in dreams than the mundane ones or parts mist people will rather not refer to as a heaven. But then, it is what it is.

The conscious and unconscious heaven visitors are mostly the inventors of all our tech, philosophy and all.

All this are your personnel feelings, not facts or is there any evidence.

Death belongs to SatanIt's enemy of God Not from GodJesus Will defeat death at lastSay the bibleDeath belongs to SatanIt's enemy of God Not from GodJesus Will defeat death at lastSay the bible...

blueAgent:


All this are your personnel feelings, not facts or is there any evidence.

This is a subject with proven scientific fact.

chieveboy:


That's what we're saying. The exact place s people have dreams at are actually part of the heavens.

People have been to grander heavens in dreams than the mundane ones or parts mist people will rather not refer to as a heaven. But then, it is what it is.

The conscious and unconscious heaven visitors are mostly the inventors of all our tech, philosophy and all.

In dreams, one can easily see that heaven is a very active and lively place. There is nothing like boredom there, and you always feel young and agile. And everything is possible.

The idea that people who pass away are “resting in peace” is utterly ridiculous and false.

If anything, it was in their earthly lives that they were “resting in peace”, NOT in the afterlife.