jimetagambo:

Thanks for the explanation. I wish our ancestors had written books and passed down. Alot of history was passed on through oral narration. We did not start documenting history till Europeans returned in the 19th century. There were a few European history about Benin/ife connection in the 17th century I think. A Benin prince was also sent to I think Portugal in the 16th or 17th century.

a delta prince

Ebibedike1:
Onitsha is not part of Biafra. Know this and know peace.
Oduduwa republic is actually bigger than you all know.,and we will claim and accommodate all of them

ijebu igbo are igbo people

Difrent:


The king looks more like a Benin palace chief than an igboman
And his title is Obi
While other igbos kings are known as Igwe. The heavy influence of Benin in Onitsha cannot be overlooked
But also we can't take away the fact of Exe Chima also being a founding member of Onitsha along with igalas.
Simply put Onitsha isn't igbo but benin

ijebu igbo are igbo people thats what he said

NiRfreak:
The reason most Africans are so stupidly neck deep into tribalism and war against themselves is basically because they don't know their history
Now look at how this king is tracing a historical relationship btw an Igbo people to Ife (Yoruba) and Benin...yet these three people insult each other on the basis of tribalism for no reason..,May Africans have sense someday so that they CAN unite to do the right things for themselves and nation

We Igbos has nothing in common with yorubas.

Thank you Sir Obi Alfred. I have always told my wife that the Obi of Onitsha is a descendant of Benin, she always scream at me. And now he has narrated it himself, it should be documented and public in a book. God bless our God given King. Let's stop the hate, we are one brothers. Oba ghatōkpere Iseeeee

igwebuike01:
Igbos own Benin and ife. Oni said it before

Ooni never said that..

You clearly didn’t understand what he said..

Maybe i should stop attacking the igbos from now on

Difrent:


The king looks more like a Benin palace chief than an igboman
And his title is Obi
While other igbos kings are known as Igwe. The heavy influence of Benin in Onitsha cannot be overlooked
But also we can't take away the fact of Exe Chima also being a founding member of Onitsha along with igalas.
Simply put Onitsha isn't igbo but benin

Not all Igbo kings are igwe. Many of them go by the title Obi.

gidgiddy:
Mischief makers who dont understand what the Obi of Onitsha said because they don't understand Igbo language

What the Obi of Onitsha said is that Onitsha are Igbos who initially left the East and ventured to Ife(Ado) but later had a misunderstanding with Ife people, then decided to return home. On their way back, they passed through Bini(Idu), crossed the River Niger and and settled in present day Onitsha. He also said that those Igbos founded several communities along the way back to the East, the Igbos of Delta State(Anioma)

He was adamant that they were initially Igbo, not Ife or Bini. Onitsha was founded by Igbos who were reverse-migrating

Arrant nonsense. Then why do Onitsha people refer to Igbo people as “Nwa Onye Igbo”, as though they are not part of them?

Stop trying to assimilate them. They simply had no Igbo ancestry, and it’s fine for non-indigenes to be in Anambra after all Igala are in Anambra and also in Enugu officially.

Onitsha families do not have Igbo ancestors.

muykem:
Onitsha people are immigrants from Yoruba land.

So, Ooni is definitely right..

Another corroboration from the most revered Monarch in Igboland, to the statement of the Ooni of Ife that there were Igbos in Ife in times immemorial.
But see how Dimwitted,foolish idiotic Zombiedents, Biafra or death goats will come to bash him and counter his statement.
Fools that know neither their left nor right,that feel they know more than their fathers age mate.
That's what the Baboon in DSS detention has created out of Igbo youths.

Ebubu2:


Arrant nonsense. Then why do Onitsha people refer to Igbo people as “Nwa Onye Igbo”, as though they are not part of them?

Stop trying to assimilate them. They simply had no Igbo ancestry, and it’s fine for non-indigenes to be in Anambra after all Igala are in Anambra and also in Enugu officially.

Onitsha families do not have Igbo ancestors.

Lol, so you are now the person telling the Obi of Onitsha his roots?

Wetin Musa no go see for gate

He said they are Igbos, who migrated from Ife (Ado) and settled in Benin (Idu). While migrating, some get tired and stopped along the way and form a settlement of Igbos there. Like some parts of Delta Igbo, Ijebu Igbo, etc. Also, not all of them ended their journey in Onitsha. But some Igbos continued to other parts of Igbo land. He said that's why we have Onitsha in several places in Igboland. We have Onitsha in Imo, Enugu etc.
In summary
1. They were Igbos that lived in Ife
2. They moved to Benin
3. Finally, they moved to Onitsha
4. He does not know how they came to Ife, maybe from Egypt or Nri.

Difrent:


The king looks more like a Benin palace chief than an igboman
And his title is Obi
While other igbos kings are known as Igwe. The heavy influence of Benin in Onitsha cannot be overlooked
But also we can't take away the fact of Exe Chima also being a founding member of Onitsha along with igalas.
Simply put Onitsha isn't igbo but benin

Obi's full story translation for those who don't understand Igbo


"How Onitsha got to the place we are today is a very long story. The last place our great granfathers left to Onitsha is Iduu which later became known as Benin. We left Ado to Iduu which is why we are called Onisha Adi n'Iduu. Ado is what later became Ile Ife but as at then that was Onitsha abode. Not only Onitsha but all the Igbo people were in Ado together but Igbos had misunderstanding with some other groups and left Ado to settle at Iduu. As at then Iduu wasn't Benin but had many tribes. We also left Iduu and continued our movement till we crossed the Niger to settle at present day Onitsha. You knowfully well that in the course of a journey some people do get tired and quit along to settle there. That is why when you're moving from Ado to the East you will see several Igbo settlements because they couldn't make it across the river . Some of these Igbos have lost their Igbo language for example Ijebu Igbo and Igbomina are all Igbos. Once you pass Benin and enter Agbor all the settlements from there are strictly Igbos. That was how we moved till we got to Onitsha but the journey didn't stop here. The movement continued so if you get to Mbaise in Imo State there's Onitsha there and its same with Afikpo in Ebonyi and Onicha Nsukka in Enugu as well as various parts of Southeast. Our own particular Onitsha is called Onicha mmili.

Let us go back to the beginning. Were Igbos from Ado or were they from elsewhere before getting to Ado? That is a subject of research left for experts to determine. "

Ebibedike1:
Onitsha is not part of Biafra. Know this and know peace.
Oduduwa republic is actually bigger than you all know.,and we will claim and accommodate all of them

this one is one delusional self hating illiterate

gidgiddy:


Lol, so you are now the person telling the Obi of Onitsha his roots?

Wetin Musa no go see for gate

He said they migrated from Ife and touched down Benin before arriving Onitsha hence Onitsha ado n’idu.

His community men and women call hinterland Igbo people “Nwa Onye Igbo”. That they speak Igbo is because it is the dominant language they met upon arrival and it was too thick it dominated them and influenced them. Yet they still refer to Igbo people with third person point of view.

So at the end of it the Yorubas and the Igbos are blood brothers, then why are we fighting ourselves on this Nairaland platform?

From now on, no more gbas gbos biko!

jimetagambo:
I have always wondered why the Obi of Onitsha dresses as a SW king and not like other Igbo ezes. It's starting to make sense now.

His dressing is as different as his language is to Yoruba kings.

Emyogalanya:
I wonder why people still think they are not Igbo's its like saying that americans are still italians cos they Migrated from italy. Or that israelians are egyptians after staying there for over 400 years

This your reasoning is Nigeria's greatest problem till date asides corruption. The Igbos, Yorubas and other tribes are part of a single country.
The lack of a collective national identity among us is a big problem that may lead to the country imploding again sooner or later. If there's anything that I fear the most, it is war o. Needless one at that, merely thinking about the likely destruction and loss of life that will happen as a result of it always makes me shiver.

Immigrants

Difrent:


The king looks more like a Benin palace chief than an igboman
And his title is Obi
While other igbos kings are known as Igwe. The heavy influence of Benin in Onitsha cannot be overlooked
But also we can't take away the fact of Exe Chima also being a founding member of Onitsha along with igalas.
Simply put Onitsha isn't igbo but benin

Bini does not have the capability to produce Onitsha. And there's no folklore in Bini history where Onitsha is mentioned nor do they have any pral history narrating the progenitor of Onitsha people which is Eze Chime.

Use your data and watch the video

Obi's full story translation for those who don't understand Igbo


"How Onitsha got to the place we are today is a very long story. The last place our great granfathers left to Onitsha is Iduu which later became known as Benin. We left Ado to Iduu which is why we are called Onisha Ado n'Iduu. Ado is what later became Ile Ife but as at then that was Onitsha abode. Not only Onitsha but all the Igbo people were in Ado together but Igbos had misunderstanding with some other groups and left Ado to settle at Iduu. As at then Iduu wasn't Benin but had many tribes. We also left Iduu and continued our movement till we crossed the Niger to settle at present day Onitsha. You know fully well that in the course of a journey some people do get tired and quit along to settle there. That is why when you're moving from Ado to the East you will see several Igbo settlements because they couldn't make it across the river . Some of these Igbos have lost their Igbo language for example Ijebu Igbo and Igbomina are all Igbos. Once you pass Benin and enter Agbor all the settlements from there are strictly Igbos. That was how we moved till we got to Onitsha but the journey didn't stop here. The movement continued so if you get to Mbaise in Imo State there's Onitsha there and its same with Afikpo in Ebonyi and Onicha Nsukka in Enugu as well as various parts of Southeast. Our own particular Onitsha is called Onicha mmili.

Let us go back to the beginning. Were Igbos from Ado or were they from elsewhere before getting to Ado? That is a subject of research left for experts to determine. "

Difrent:


The king looks more like a Benin palace chief than an igboman
And his title is Obi
While other igbos kings are known as Igwe. The heavy influence of Benin in Onitsha cannot be overlooked
But also we can't take away the fact of Exe Chima also being a founding member of Onitsha along with igalas.
Simply put Onitsha isn't igbo but benin

You mean Eze Chime....Eze Chime didn't only found Onitsha but the progenitor of the entire Anioma people and surprisingly, the name of the man whp founded Onitsha and the entire Anioma isn't a Yoruba name or Bini one.

Igwe is the name of European-appointed kings in most past of Igbo land. These kings are not really traditional but appointed during the colonial times for administrative convenience

BadBradley:
You mean Eze Chime....Eze Chime didn't only found Onitsha but the progenitor of the entire Anioma people and surprisingly, the name of the man whp founded Onitsha and the entire Anioma isn't a Yoruba name or Bini one.

Igwe is the name of European-appointed kings in most past of Igbo land. These kings are not really traditional but appointed during the colonial times for administrative convenience

Igwe is used only in Northern Igboland ie Anambra and Enugu States. In other parts of Igboland it is either Eze or Obi.

NiRfreak:
The reason most Africans are so stupidly neck deep into tribalism and war against themselves is basically because they don't know their history
Now look at how this king is tracing a historical relationship btw an Igbo people to Ife (Yoruba) and Benin...yet these three people insult each other on the basis of tribalism for no reason..,May Africans have sense someday so that they CAN unite to do the right things for themselves and nation

Your comment is so unbias.. this is the problem most of us don't understand. Most of these politicians use hatred and tribalism to divide us

jimetagambo:
I have always wondered why the Obi of Onitsha dresses as a SW king and not like other Igbo ezes. It's starting to make sense now.

He dresses more like the Oba of Benin than any SW traditional ruler. Onitsha as a town, has more resemblance to the Benin kingdom than any town in the SW. The names of some of their streets in Onitsha are of Benin origin. Even some Onitsha people bear names similar to Benin names.

You see that thing that is in Obi of Onitsha's hand? That's what the Benins call Eben. It's origin is purely Benin. Na men wey mount dey hold am.

Nonybb:
Who says that Onitsha is not part of Igbo or Biafra? They have continued this propaganda perpetuated by Gowon during the war when he gave the Eastern governorship seat to Asika Ukpabi, an indigent of Onitsha in order to spite Ojukwu who declared Biafra. Ukpabi then rallied around his people and declare their non interest in Biafra

Since that time, some people rode on that ploy that was sanctioned by the northern oligarchs to divide the Igbos. They have successful brainwashed Ikwerre when Gowon visited Port Harcourt in solidarity during the war to distant them from Ndigbo. Till today, that propaganda still stood. They divide and they rule. I know you people might say that Nnaemeka Achebe is a custodian and should know the facts but cultural, linguistically and virtually otherwise, we are not the same with Bini people. If everyone claim to be Bini like Ikwerre people do, then where do Bini from? From the sky? (By the way, I don't even believe that Ikwerre people are not Igbos, because it's like saying, I am from Mbaise, I am not Igbos)

We call God Chineke, and they have theirs. Must everything be linked with the Bini people. Even Lagos State is proclaimed to be Bini original dwelling place, so Yorubas came from Bini too? What is so special about them that everyone else have to come from them? Then change the name of Nigeria to Bigeria

You twisting the narrative to suite you and your fellow Igbos who believe that other tribe that has similarities with yours should be annexed and subjugated.
Get this into your skull and know peace, Ikwerre is not Igbo.
Yes, they have some similarities in food, language and culture. This what happens when a dominant group meets with a minority, they swallow the lesser one, especially where there is a deliberate efforts like the way the Igbos do. This annexation characters in the Igbo tribe always pitch them against other tribes. It breeds hate.
You cannot tell me your history and and also tell me mine.

Abagworo:


Igwe is used only in Northern Igboland ie Anambra and Enugu States. In other parts of Igboland it is either Eze or Obi.

Most of which didn't have a traditional stool until European administration came.

jimetagambo:

Thanks for the explanation. I wish our ancestors had written books and passed down. Alot of history was passed on through oral narration. We did not start documenting history till Europeans returned in the 19th century. There were a few European history about Benin/ife connection in the 17th century I think. A Benin prince was also sent to I think Portugal in the 16th or 17th century.

I think he was an Itsekiri prince that was sent to Portugal, his name was Dom Domingos. A popular secondary school is named after him

Ebubu2:
He said they migrated from Ife and touched down Benin before arriving Onitsha hence Onitsha ado n’idu.

His community men and women call hinterland Igbo people “Nwa Onye Igbo”. That they speak Igbo is because it is the dominant language they met upon arrival and it was too thick it dominated them and influenced them. Yet they still refer to Igbo people with third person point of view.

And throughout his talk, he always called Onitsha people Igbos who were in Ife. He never refereed to them as any other tribe than Igbo. Nobody in Onitsha referred to Igbos as nwa onye Igbo, I don't know where you guys got that one from. And no Onitsha indigene has ever referred to themselves as any other thing than Igbo

That Igbos pased through Ife and Bini on their way back to the East neither makes them Ife nor Bini

Difrent:


This is why I laugh when igbos think they taunt yorubas with Lagos belonging to Edos
The part of Lagos Edo own is part of Lagos Island (not even all of Lagos Island )

Even though the influence of Eze Chima, the progenitor of igbos in Onitsha can't be washed away, the city dont belong to igbos alone as the influence of Edo cant also be wished away

how does bini influence make Onitsha not an Igbo city?

Una go just dey talk like who tribalism done corrode their braincells.

chiagozien:
We Igbos has nothing in common with yorubias.

I beg to differ....
A simple analysis of our language shows we are related.
Water - Omi-nmiri
Goat - Ewure- Ewu
Ewu.— Ewurẹ. — Goat.
Stone - okuta- okute
Torotoro—. Tolotolo. — Turkey.
Ọnu.—Ẹnu. — Mouth.
Nti.— Eti. — Ear.
Rat- okute-oke
Agba.— Agbon. — Chin.
Imi. — Imu—. Nose.
Iba. —Iba. — Fever.
Gbọrọ. — Gbọ.— Hear.

And a lot of other examples.

When you come to our food and cuisines, there are also a lot of similarities

A common love for eating similar things like spinach, egusi, palm oil and other vegetables. A love for swallow fufu, wheat and eba

A similar traditional worship system.
A belief in multiple gods
Use of masquerades in festivals

I could go on and on.

If you were to look at the igbo and yoruba people without a politically colored glasses, we are one people with more in common than we choose to believe