nzechu:
there is sha nothing like obi of asaba

Whatever

SS777:


Inferiority complex you need check up like an average Igbo you belong to

You just proved my assertions right
Piig from the wastelands

tishbite42:

You just proved my assertions right
Piig from the wastelands

Another nyameri no wonder God is using you as an example of a slave tribe in Nigeria.

Slave remains slave.

This is a sweet topic. It is good we begin to delve into history to know how related we are in this country and therefore bridge the tribal divide amongs us！

PressMyButton:

You named your common heritage, the throne of your ancestors after an adopted name, a name of a strange land?. How wise are you?. Better sit down and be humble.

Onicha ado n'idu is not their name. Their name is Onicha mmili. You don't understand Igbo yet u know more than the Igbos that understand Igbo. Ado n'idu is just like to show how far they have sojourned . It's common with Igbos. That's why that chinedu that lives in Brazil is often called edu Brazil and that emeka that trades in China is often called emmy China. The obi made it clear throughout the interview that Onicha people are Igbos who sojourned through ado and idu back to where they came from.

This is an interesting topic. It is good we begin to delve into history to know how we're related to each other in this country and bridge the tribal divide among use！culture and tradition should tell us this.

professorPABX:


This is not news. My late grandfather who was a prominent member of NCNC told us that Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe always reiterated that Onitsha people are from IFE, settling at Benin. When their progenitor died, they stayed for a very long time at Benin before migrating to several places and finally settled at Onitsha.

The Ga people of Accra Ghana are also from IFE. Ekuabo, Ekwuabo , Ekaabo means welcome in Yoruba in various Yoruba pronunciations.

When the late Oba of Benin wrote a book and gave a new history about Benin and IFE relationship and said Oodua is Ekalalederhan a Benin Prince. He said Oodua is not the first person to settle at IFE. He said Oodua met some people who were already living at IFE . The puzzle he left was for historians to find out those early settlers at IFE before Oodua arrived.

His Highness, Oba Akinrutan ( OBAT), the Olugbo of UGBO land in Ondo State claimed those early settlers are UGBO people referring to his people.

My question to His Highness, Oba Akinrutan is to find out if there is any relationship between UGBO people and the present Onitsha people.

so ncnc is a history discussion forum right?

I don't know why lies are ingrained in you peoples dna

NOTHING like reverse migration.

The Onitsha people from BENIN palace are Delta North people who continued their journey to present day Onitsha.

Oral history passed down from our foreparents was usually the order of the day and Delta North people from BENIN knows their brothers are in Onitsha.

But since the Igbos claim Eze Chima which was a name they gave to Ehima ( corrupted version) as theirs, many Delta North people are reserved about Eze Chima's name, same way they are now reserved about ANIOMA since Igbos want to use it to create another state( possibly in their Eastern region).

This story reminds Delta North people that they are ROYALTY especially when the Igbos want to force us like Boko Harams to declare by force that we are Igbos. Royalty DNA is different from IGBON. We also know we have same roots with the Urhobos, Isokos and Itsekiris.

Mind u, even Asaba people's patriach is Igala and Matriarch from Nteje, Anambra is also Igala. Reason why there is NO Igbo in Delta North. Olukunmi- Owo with Bini traces.

Bini and Igala seem like small tribes but have many descendants in many places. But some taunt them that they are just 3 LGAs/ small -- Greatness of a tribe is not by numbers as it may just be that the majority didn't practice proper family planning.

jimetagambo:

Thanks for the explanation. I wish our ancestors had written books and passed down. Alot of history was passed on through oral narration. We did not start documenting history till Europeans returned in the 19th century. There were a few European history about Benin/ife connection in the 17th century I think. A Benin prince was also sent to I think Portugal in the 16th or 17th century.

blame oyinbo man na then turn us against each other

Justiceganduje:
Obi of Onitsha is not the custodian of Igbo.

Because he said the truth?

muykem:
Onitsha people are immigrants from Yoruba land.

You are already vexing the yeebos.

Orobadmeat:
The Post is not about Biafra please, That people migrate from a region don't mean they should share a country with you, that people speak same language don't mean they should share a country with you, allow people self determination,

...but at least they should show some respect to whom they migrated from

Mrfeel:

Which Reno are you talking about , this is what he once wrote

Reno is correct on the slavery part. An ugly past but the Igbos always want to be reminded.

Igbos were slaves( Igbon) to the Ijaws, Calabar people, Binis especially ( Itsekiris are Binis) who were their Slaves Masters( Slave Merchants) sold by THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

From 1698-1778, the slave trade biz boomed and continued till after it was officially stopped in the early 1880s ie 1950s and even beyond (in an African country close to us). More than 25000 Igbo slaves left the shores of Nigeria.

Jaja for example was a slave boy.

Mind u this is a very old story which even some neighbouring country people know and told us.

After the slave trade stopped, some of the slaves sought 'asylum' in these Southern states and the people settled them, reason why we have the Igbos in our midst. We do not know why their fore parents didn't tell them that they were slaves in this lands originally, but only told them they owned the lands( as indigenous Igbos).

Only the Southern States really know them that is why even if they do igberaga B4 other tribes, Dem no fit do am for Southerners because we know them WELL.

They always want to tell others they are more superior and if one is NOT them invariably, the person may amount to nothing forgetting that they were Nwa boi to these people and these people later to right some wrongs ( knowingly or not)helped them in the last election but because no be Dem enter, they suddenly started fighting for Biafra and trying to annex others and their lands.

Na only dem u go manage bear their names out of the 3 major tribes and Dem go fight u if u deny Igbo ancestry.

Hoping they know more of proper history instead of what they put out in Wikipedia and social media ( false history revisionists)about others because even their own history Dem no know.

IkeIgboNiile:
Difrent


You're wrong. Onicha was one of the founding members of ile ife. Even the oni confirmed that igbos helped form his kingdom.
Eze chima was a wealthy man whose family helped form ile and benin. They were igbos when they left ile ife and benin.

Interesting perspective, one just hearing.
History can be interesting
And ugly atimes , one of the ugly history is that the igbos were chased away or exiled from Benin due to bad behaviors like cannibalism.
Another said Eze chime left benin in anger over leadership tussle and left benin to form Onicha
While one suggest that igbos were a subjugated people who were mainly slaves to the Benin empire

jimetagambo:

The current descendants of the Ogisos - present day Ogiamen (i.e. indigenes Oranmiyan met in Bini) have no oral record of any exiled prince or erakadehran.


If you have historical sources to back up the bolded, please share.

Ife influenced Bini from the few historical books made available by European explorers. Even the famous artworks of Bini were learnt from Ife.


You are right.


Ado could be from the word Aduro.




Every olojo day in ife, the Ooni of Ife carries an Ada. The Ooni's staff (rod) on olojo has several small Adas/ebens on it.


Ife was known as Ado. European explorers.

The problem of blacks is dishonesty. In years to come, people could deny Europeans colonizing Africa.

The history touted by benin's to discredit Oduduwa is that myth that he descended from the sky. Everyone has myths, and that is commonly known to be far from the truth.
The real Oduduwa history I learned from primary school which have provable evidence is that Oduduwa came from Mecca. He passed through the north on a journey of 90 days and his entourage. Usman Dan Fodio has a record of him, being a Muslim scholar who wrote things down.

We learned that the gogobiri people and one other tribe preferred staying in the northern part of Nigeria than following their brother to wherever he was going.
On his arrival in Ìfẹ, wẹ learned that he had a parchment with quranic verses which was kept in Iledi. Benin never had developed any means of writing, not even now.

Where are the New Age Benin historians got their story?

Sad enough, bloggers have now taken please of academics. Their loud now more than real scholars.

jimetagambo:

The current descendants of the Ogisos - present day Ogiamen (i.e. indigenes Oranmiyan met in Bini) have no oral record of any exiled prince or erakadehran.


If you have historical sources to back up the bolded, please share.

Ife influenced Bini from the few historical books made available by European explorers. Even the famous artworks of Bini were learnt from Ife.


You are right.


Ado could be from the word Aduro.




Every olojo day in ife, the Ooni of Ife carries an Ada. The Ooni's staff (rod) on olojo has several small Adas/ebens on it.


Ife was known as Ado. European explorers.

I used to have a documentary on my phone until a month ago when I flashed it. It pointed to a book of a Russian authority on Benin monarch from earliest times. I am searching the net if I can retrieve it. He talked about Ife bronze craft and the skillful attainment of the Ife. The explorers could not believe the science behind about 97% purity of bronze used.

This was the time of ife - Benin relationship. Even ogisos were sent from Ìfẹ Ana dukia not principal rulers.

I will post it as soon as find it

Antivirus92:
so ncnc is a history discussion forum right?

I don't know why lies are ingrained in you peoples dna

You are depressed and suffering from mental illusions. Late Chief Bamidele Azikiwe the immediate Owelle of Onitsha after Zik is not alive to tell you more.

NCNC was a Nigerian Nationalist Political Party. History and Politics go together. Also, history and traditional institutions go together.

Zik was one of the 5 people that represented Lagos in the Western Region parliament. We have TOS Benson, Chief Adebola, Chief Olorunimbe, Prince Adeleke Adedoyin and Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe.

NCNC was National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons later changed to the National Convention of Nigerian Citizens (1944 to 1966).
In Politics, and Political Campaign and struggle, history is inevitable.

You are too depressed, irritated and illusion to learn.

sharone21:
NOTHING like reverse migration.

The Onitsha people from BENIN palace are Delta North people who continued their journey to present day Onitsha.

Oral history passed down from our foreparents was usually the order of the day and Delta North people from BENIN knows their brothers are in Onitsha.

But since the Igbos claim Eze Chima which was a name they gave to Ehima ( corrupted version) as theirs, many Delta North people are reserved about Eze Chima's name, same way they are now reserved about ANIOMA since Igbos want to use it to create another state( possibly in their Eastern region).

This story reminds Delta North people that they are ROYALTY especially when the Igbos want to force us like Boko Harams to declare by force that we are Igbos. Royalty DNA is different from IGBON. We also know we have same roots with the Urhobos, Isokos and Itsekiris.

Mind u, even Asaba people's patriach is Igala and Matriarch from Nteje, Anambra is also Igala. Reason why there is NO Igbo in Delta North. Olukunmi- Owo with Bini traces.

Bini and Igala seem like small tribes but have many descendants in many places. But some taunt them that they are just 3 LGAs/ small -- Greatness of a tribe is not by numbers as it may just be that the majority didn't practice proper family planning.

you're now telling your own stories different from what the King said. This your story is good only amongst your bini people.

Antivirus92:
you're now telling your own stories different from what the King said. This your story is good only amongst your bini people.

The award winning title of false history of others are told and misinterpreted by Igbos- the worst history tellers in Nigeria. They tell fiction instead of true history.

This is what Delta North people passed to their descendants. We have kinsmen in Onitsha, not all Onitsha people are from the palace. Even Nnamdi Azikiwe's lineage is the part of Onitsha from the BENIN palace.

The ADA and EBEN are the symbol of SONS not of IGBONS.

sharone21:


The award winning title of false history of others are told and misinterpreted by Igbos- the worst history tellers in Nigeria. They tell fiction instead of true history.

This is what Delta North people passed to their descendants. We have kinsmen in Onitsha, not all Onitsha people are from the palace. Even Nnamdi Azikiwe's lineage is the part of Onitsha from the BENIN palace.

The ADA and EBEN are the symbol of SONS not of IGBONS.

what you're saying is totally different from what the King said. Focus on your bini and leave onitsha out of it. Ogwashi, igbuzo, okpanam and so on in delta North have no history of eze Chima or whatsoever. Deal with yourself my friend

Ebibedike1:
Onitsha is not part of Biafra. Know this and know peace.
Oduduwa republic is actually bigger than you all know.,and we will claim and accommodate all of them

A stupid black man talk ... white rule and divide you fools and you are here talking about igbos and where they come from

When will a black man learn ?

SS777:


He's not Igbo just like Obi of Asaba, but Igbo always want to force themselves on people's.

Who’s this ffool? U see an Igbo man with Igbo name and language telling u about his ancestry and you’re talking rubbish here

That’s to say Benin people aren’t actually Benin because they came from Yoruba land right? Idiat

Moreover it is not Obi of Asaba but Asagba of Asaba. Get educated first before commenting

Antivirus92:
what you're saying is totally different from what the King said. Focus on your bini and leave onitsha out of it. Ogwashi, igbuzo, okpanam and so on in delta North have no history of eze Chima or whatsoever. Deal with yourself my friend

U come know us pass ourselves abi?

2/3 of Ibuzo are from Bini, 1/3 claim to be indigenous Igbons. A case of when ur dad is Mai guard but deceiving his kids that he is the CEO( LOL) of the company.

Okpanam people, Ibuzo and Ogwashi people even have Iyase title holders....

My prayer is that una go vex quick go get Biafra thinking u have brothers in Southern States or Delta North, that is when una go see shege because we go build fence, put padlock and hide key....NO ACCESS TO THE SEA for importers and exporters.

sharone21:


U come know us pass ourselves abi?

2/3 of Ibuzo are from Bini, 103 claim to be indigenous Igbons. A case of when ur dad is Mai guard but deceiving his kid D's that he is the CEO( LOL).

Okpanam people, Ibuzo and Ogwashi people even have Iyase title holders....

My prayer is that una vex quick go get Biafra thinking u have brothers in Southern States or Delta North, that is when una go see shege because we go build fence, put padlock and hide key....NO ACCESS TO THE SEA for importers and exporters.

delusion of grandeur,
Now I know you're not to be taken serious.
Go back to your bini, you're not from delta north. You're a bini man from edo state. Leave Igbo deltas alone to tell their story

Emyogalanya:
The truth is that nig is not an organic country from on set. The tribes in it see themselves as independent countries. Loyalty is still in the tribe and regions and not in the country.

True, it's every tribe for itself.

sharone21:


Reno is correct on the slavery part. An ugly past but the Igbos always want to be reminded.

Igbos were slaves( Igbon) to the Ijaws, Calabar people, Binis especially ( Itsekiris are Binis) who were their Slaves Masters( Slave Merchants) sold by THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

From 1698-1778, the slave trade biz boomed and continued till after it was officially stopped in the early 1880s ie 1950s and even beyond (in an African country close to us). More than 25000 Igbo slaves left the shores of Nigeria.

Jaja for example was a slave boy.

Mind u this is a very old story which even some neighbouring country people know and told us.

After the slave trade stopped, some of the slaves sought 'asylum' in these Southern states and the people settled them, reason why we have the Igbos in our midst. We do not know why their fore parents didn't tell them that they were slaves in this lands originally, but only told them they owned the lands( as indigenous Igbos).

Only the Southern States really know them that is why even if they do igberaga B4 other tribes, Dem no fit do am for Southerners because we know them WELL.

They always want to tell others they are more superior and if one is NOT them invariably, the person may amount to nothing forgetting that they were Nwa boi to these people and these people later to right some wrongs ( knowingly or not)helped them in the last election but because no be Dem enter, they suddenly started fighting for Biafra and trying to annex others and their lands.

Na only dem u go manage bear their names out of the 3 major tribes and Dem go fight u if u deny Igbo ancestry.

Hoping they know more of proper history instead of what they put out in Wikipedia and social media ( false history revisionists)about others because even their own history Dem no know.

The question is if the people in south south with igbo names were brought there as a result of slavery , what's up with the history of them been from bini and Ife etc ?

Antivirus92:
Onicha ado n'idu is not their name. Their name is Onicha mmili. You don't understand Igbo yet u know more than the Igbos that understand Igbo. Ado n'idu is just like to show how far they have sojourned . It's common with Igbos. That's why that chinedu that lives in Brazil is often called edu Brazil and that emeka that trades in China is often called emmy China. The obi made it clear throughout the interview that Onicha people are Igbos who sojourned through ado and idu back to where they came from.

You are not even a member of the royal family, you're just another keybord warrior talking from an ignorant point of view. Who're you when the king himself had spoken?. Take a backseat.

PressMyButton:

You are not even a member of the royal family, you're just another keybord warrior talking from an ignorant point of view. Who're you when the king himself had spoken?. Take a backseat.

they came from Benin and Ife and they names it Onicha an Igbo name ... does it make sense

And beside that Onitsha is too small...

Nonybb:
Who says that Onitsha is not part of Igbo or Biafra? They have continued this propaganda perpetuated by Gowon during the war when he gave the Eastern governorship seat to Asika Ukpabi, an indigent of Onitsha in order to spite Ojukwu who declared Biafra. Ukpabi then rallied around his people and declare their non interest in Biafra

Since that time, some people rode on that ploy that was sanctioned by the northern oligarchs to divide the Igbos. They have successful brainwashed Ikwerre when Gowon visited Port Harcourt in solidarity during the war to distant them from Ndigbo. Till today, that propaganda still stood. They divide and they rule. I know you people might say that Nnaemeka Achebe is a custodian and should know the facts but cultural, linguistically and virtually otherwise, we are not the same with Bini people. If everyone claim to be Bini like Ikwerre people do, then where do Bini from? From the sky? (By the way, I don't even believe that Ikwerre people are not Igbos, because it's like saying, I am from Mbaise, I am not Igbos)

We call God Chineke, and they have theirs. Must everything be linked with the Bini people. Even Lagos State is proclaimed to be Bini original dwelling place, so Yorubas came from Bini too? What is so special about them that everyone else have to come from them? Then change the name of Nigeria to Bigeria

Then keep QUIET and deal with it. Everyone must have a starting place. And it IS NOT STRANGE, if most of the southern tribes all migrated from Benin into their present states/locations. It's just like a man with a single house in one village or small town and has 12 sons, ofcourse as the children/sons grew mature they will start leaving their father house to establish in different parts of the state or other part of the country or even outside country and become Indigene or citizens there. So if this is possible why can't it be possible that most tribes in the southern Nigeria originated from bini.
And yes Yoruba have their trace to Bini. Me am a FULL BONNY IJAW Man. And the Bonny Ibani clan is an ijaw clan originated from Kolokuma in Bayelsa all the way thru ndoki to settle in present day Bonny. But history also shows that it has connection from bini and am proud of it.
For your type, you want everything to be adding up to Igbo and anything that shows to dissociate from Igbo agenda CANNOT BE TRUE FOR YOU

ariesbull:
they came from Benin and Ife and they names it Onicha an Igbo name ... does it make sense

And beside that Onitsha is too small...

Nobody denied them being ibos but the fact that they traced their ancestry to some roots far apart is the main issue here. And whether Onitsha is big or small ain't the issue either.

Difrent

Interesting perspective, one just hearing.
History can be interesting
And ugly atimes , one of the ugly history is that the igbos were chased away or exiled from Benin due to bad behaviors like cannibalism.
Another said Eze chime left benin in anger over leadership tussle and left benin to form Onicha
While one suggest that igbos were a subjugated people who were mainly slaves to the Benin empire

Lol.....well people can say whatever they like but it doesn't change the fact that after the Igbos left the benin kingdom became to decline or will history deny that igbos played a cruise role in the ile ife and benin Kingdom just like we continue to play till date.