WesleyanA:


Many of these kids are easy to convince. They are poor muslims who live in countries where they are being discriminated against (Britain, France) and when these men target them and brainwash them to terrorize "in the name of Allah," they agree.

Most Muslim militants didn't grow up in Britain and France-the Kano rioters were not ex-residents of the 2 nations.Most grew up in Muslim majority societies.

The issue of discrimination equally applies to Black Africans in Britain and France yet none has gained notoriety for religious violence.

WesleyanA:

Many of these kids are easy to convince. They are poor muslims who live in countries where they live in poverty and are being continuously discriminated against (Britain, France) and when these men target them and brainwash them to terrorize "in the name of Allah," they agree.

This small child has left her feeding bottle to come and play here again abi? So Britain and France are now responsible for the almajiris in Kano?  
Go and drink milk joo.

again my post was a reply to Uchenna's.
and the radio show was focused on the london bombings. Uchenna already pointed out the koran school in Kano, if you need to refer back.

The issue of discrimination equally applies to Black Africans in Britain and France yet none has gained notoriety for religious violence.

most of the black africans in Britain and especially france are immigrant descent. there is wide spread violence in France from northern African immigrants and the blacks in general. burning of houses, vandalism, killings etc

the reason for this violence is probably the same reason for the violence in london (except religion is used as a justifier)

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article on violence in Kano/ analysis of the cause


In the central region that lies between the mainly Muslim north and largely Christian south, armed Muslims on February 24, 2004 killed more than 75 Christians in the town of Yelwa, at least 48 of them inside a church compound. Then on May 2 and 3, hundreds of well-armed Christians surrounded the town from different directions and killed around 700 Muslims. They also abducted scores of women, some of whom were attacked. Both attacks were well-organized, and in both instances, the victims were targeted on the basis of their religion.

One week later, reacting to reports of the Yelwa attacks, Muslims in the northern city of Kano on May 11 and 12 turned against Christian residents of the city, killing more than 200. In addition, police and soldiers deployed to restore order in Kano carried out dozens of extrajudicial killings themselves. The victims included people who, according to eyewitnesses, were not even involved in the violence.


The report provides background information on the causes of the violence in Plateau State and explains how a localized dispute between ethnic groups competing for political control, land and economic resources turned into a fully fledged religious conflict, extending well beyond the boundaries of the state.


“Both Muslims and Christians have realized that religion is an extremely effective way of mobilizing large numbers of people,” said Takirambudde. “Local leaders on both sides have cynically manipulated religion with disastrous consequences.”

At the heart of the conflict is the distinction between “indigenes”—people who consider themselves as the original inhabitants of an area—and those whom they view as “settlers.” The concept of “indigeneship” has been exploited and used to discriminate against those termed as “settlers.”

“The Nigerian government needs to remove the distinction between ‘indigenes’ and ‘settlers’,” said Takirambudde. “As long as this distinction is given official recognition, the potential for further conflict remains.”


Nigeria: Religious Violence Fueled by Impunity
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/05/23/nigeri10993.htm
read the whole article


like i said earlier, the main reason for the violence has nothing to do with religion. there are other number of factors to it that you guys probably understand but refuse to accept.

so as you can see from the article, the reason for the "religious violence"
has more to do with the differences between the people.
this is the reason why yoruba muslims get along with yoruba christians. the live on their land, share the same cultures etc.

in the north, the case is different. there is argument between indiginous inhabitants vs settlers. religion is used as a tool to mobilize people etc but it doesn't mean that they are fighting because "allah says so" (refer to article in previous post)
if that was the case, the yoruba muslims and christians will also be at war with each other (it's a purely religious conflict right?). even the senegalese muslims will go to neighboring countries to fight christians.

i currently attend a school where there are people from all different religions and background and the only way to avoid conflict is to downplay your religious views and keep a secular/balanced environment so that one view won't be clashing with the other. ex catholic christian vs protestant christians ; atheists vs christians and muslims etc


here i'm talking about conflict and giving my school as an example.

Hausa muslims get butchered just as easily as 'settlers', your assertions are wrong. Hausa/Fulani converts to Christianity have a far greater threat on their lives than even the settlers, they see it as an ultimate betrayal, cue the dude that needed to be given asylum in Italy because he as an Afghan converted to Christianity.

The sheer hatred and relative 'purity' of the Northern Muslims is what leads to their actions. such killings and destruction of the 'infidel' is their belief for the most part. Even in Secondary school, we read stories of Uthman Dan Fodio telling the 'heathen tribes' to convert to Islam or die.

All these attempts to justify or rationalize these muslim killings are pointless. For the most part, they are rabid and detestable acts of intolerance and hatred. To try to paint it as simply a cultural difference is misguided. These researchers are trying to rationalize something borne out of deep emotional and fundamental belief system, Islam is not a 'religion' as such to these people, its their identity, so by affronting that basic nature with Christianity is untenable and must be dealt with.
this issue is by and large fueled by Religion, if you have ever lived in the North you will realise this. Even the educated ones among them will revert to their base 'Islamic' instincts once an issue of religion is raised. It is highly emotional and charged, defying rational thought.

the cases of tribal wars and conflicts are clearly known, the incidents in Adamawa and Taraba, as well as the occasional middle belt clashes in Benue are clearly documented as tribal differences and settler/indigene issues.

That is completely separate from someone killing you based on the fact that you are standing in a Church. No matter the hausa you can speak or babariga you wear, if you are identified as Christian during these crises, your life is in danger.

There are just too many flaws in your treatise madam wesleyanA

Read your article again carefully:

In the central region that lies between the mainly Muslim north and largely Christian south, armed Muslims on February 24, 2004 killed more than 75 Christians in the town of Yelwa, at least 48 of them inside a church compound. Then on May 2 and 3, hundreds of well-armed Christians surrounded the town from different directions and killed around 700 Muslims. They also abducted scores of women, some of whom were attacked. Both attacks were well-organized, and in both instances, the victims were targeted on the basis of their religion.  

One week later, reacting to reports of the Yelwa attacks, Muslims in the northern city of Kano on May 11 and 12 turned against Christian residents of the city, killing more than 200. In addition, police and soldiers deployed to restore order in Kano carried out dozens of extrajudicial killings themselves. The victims included people who, according to eyewitnesses, were not even involved in the violence.

You and the article authors make a fundamental error, an error of concluding that the crisis is one of ethnic differences masquerading as a religious conflict. The error you make however is in the fact that neither you nor the author has had a sufficient experience of the history of religious violence in northern nigeria (a phenomenon that dates back to the early 1950s) to draw a conclusion.

You go on to claim that the problem is one of "indigenes vs settlers". That brings me to wonder, Lagos and abuja are the most ethnically diverse cities in Nigeria and YET there has NEVER been any record of religious violence in those 2 cities. Does that make sense to you?
Hausa christians in Zaria (Kaduna state) have been victims of religious violence once too many times, are they settlers in a land their forefathers were born in?

It is easy to sit in the US posting articles and making claims trying to appear intelligent. Those of us who have lived through the very experiences you try so hard and fail to wrap your minds around can only shake our heads in pity at those who see the truth and so desperately want to pretend not to.

WesleyanA:

most of the black africans in Britain and especially france are immigrant descent. there is wide spread violence in France from northern African immigrants and the blacks in general. burning of houses, vandalism, killings etc

No ma'am, the problem of terrorism in England is not a "black african" problem. The vast majority of terrorists caught have been asians from pakistan, afghanistan, india e.t.c. None has been from continental africa or the carribean.

The problem in france is similar to that of the Dutch. The vast majority of French immigrants are from former french colonies who are predominantly muslim nations - Mali, Burkina Faso, Algeria, Morroco, Tunisia e.t.c.

[b]In Kano new ethnic categories (“southerner,” “northerner”) arose when southerners, particularly Igbo, began to threaten economic interests of the far-flung Hausa commercial empire based in Kano. [/b]The policy of northernization, adopted by northern elites during the late 1950s, sought to open jobs for Hausa in commercial firms in Kano; gain greater access to government contracts, civil service posts, and financial services; and reassert control over produce export. The fear of losing out economically heightened the sense among northern indigenes of marginalization. Northernization established the predominance of politics over economics, which made political competition at the national level a matter of primary concern. Nothing in the four decades since independence has lessened these concerns.

Some liberal Muslims are generally opposed to a nonsecular form of government and the implementation of shari’a. The parallel governance structures—traditional and elected—are less cohesive than they appear initially.
Many northern politicians have supported the so-called shari’a movement through personal conviction, political opportunism, political realism, or a sense that they should represent the wishes of those who elected them.


This poses a constitutional problem because the Nigerian constitution guarantees a secular state, guarantees freedom of religion, and vests in states concurrent power to establish their own court systems. At both constitutional and practical levels, these guarantees are incompatible in light of the fact that Islam rejects separation of political from religious authority and proposes a unified theocratic system of governance.


Despite these differences, Muslims in Nigeria’s North can act together in a disciplined manner when they consider it politically necessary. But groups and leaders in each state also pursue their own agendas, including relationships with Christians. In some traditional chieftaincies (e.g., Katsina and Gumel), relationships between Muslim political and religious leaders and Christians appear better than in others. Some Muslim and Christian leaders have sought to engage in peaceful dialogue, and there would appear to be real opportunities in this area that should be exploited.

Part of the resentment felt for “settlers” (members of southern tribes, as opposed to “indigenes”) residing (and often born in) Kano stems from indigenes’ feeling that settlers are simply in Kano to make money. Settlers are perceived to be unwilling to adapt to the culture of Kano and to reject the values of Kano’s indigenous population. Indigenes see settlers as failing to commit or contribute to the community in either material or nonmaterial senses. On top of this, indigenes believe settlers look down on the indigenous Kano population. To some extent, Muslims feel marginalized on their own turf, which fuels their sense of grievance against the southern Christian settlers in their midst.

In Kaduna in February-May 2000 over 1,000 people died in rioting over the introduction of criminal Shar'ia in the State. Hundreds of ethnic Hausa were killed in reprisal attacks in southeastern Nigeria. In September 2001, over 2,000 were people were killed in inter-religious rioting in Jos. In October 2001, hundred were killed and thousands displaced in communal violence that spread across the Middle-Belt states of Benue, Taraba, and Nasarawa.

The predominantly Christian Tarok farmers consider the mostly Muslim Hausa cattle herders as outsiders, and accuse them of stealing land and trying to usurp political power. These had led to the burning down of 72 villages over between 2002 and the end of 2003. More than 1,000 people were killed in sectarian clashes between Christians and Muslims in Jos, the Plateau State capital, in September 2001.



http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/nigeria-1.htm

another article that discusses the motives behind the conflict.

@ WesleyanA, all these quoting of articles do nothing but expose your naivette and ignorance.

Many of us have had families and friends who lived in the north, many of us have lived in the north before. Dont sit in the US in your comfortable, liberal living room quoting pages of articles written by an equally ignorant foreign observer.

At this rate one would think there were not one single settler in the South. There are probably more settlers in the south than in the north. Why havent Lagosians killed off all the northerners living there?

when did i mention the problem in England as a "black african problem"?
this was my quote:
most of the black africans in Britain and especially france are immigrant descent. there is wide spread violence in France from northern African immigrants and the blacks in general. burning of houses, vandalism, killings etc

The vast majority of French immigrants are from former french colonies who are predominantly muslim nations - Mali, Burkina Faso, Algeria, Morroco, Tunisia e.t.c.

wasn't this what i said?

WesleyanA:

when did i mention the problem in England as a "black african problem"?
this was my quote:
most of the black africans in Britain and especially france are immigrant descent. there is wide spread violence in France from northern African immigrants and the blacks in general. burning of houses, vandalism, killings etc

wasn't this what i said?

Your quote is in bold. . .  read it again . . . any casual observer would come away with the impression that the violence in France and Britain was a problem of black africans of immigrant descent.

1. While the terrorist crisis in Britain has been primarily an arab/asian problem, that in france has been a result of muslim youths who incidentally are from former muslim french colonies.

2. No where do you indicate such. Learn to accept that you don't really know much, stick with the forum games.

davidylan:

@ WesleyanA, all these quoting of articles do nothing but expose your naivette and ignorance.

Many of us have had families and friends who lived in the north, many of us have lived in the north before. Dont sit in the US in your comfortable, liberal living room quoting pages of articles written by an equally ignorant foreign observer.

can you point out at least 3 things that you found wrong with the articles? point out what's false in it. I challenge you (and don't just point out a snippet either. there are many big arguments in the article. debate one of those)
you lived there doesn't mean you know more than the experts about there. at least you haven't proved to have.
and who told you that the article authors aren't nigerians who have lived in the north and even studied the situation as part of their job. the analysis makes all the sense in the world. anybody will agree with that.

do you not think that if the muslims were fighting christians all over the world just because "allah said so"
don't you think the yoruba muslims will be fighting the christian counterparts
don't you think the terrorists would have bombed churches rather than a financial building?
don't you think they would have bombed a more conservative christian country rather than the US that isn't even all that religious?
why do you think they target christians? there are other religions in the world. they should have bombed some buddhist temple in India.

davidylan:

Your quote is in bold. . . read it again . . . any casual observer would come away with the impression that the violence in France and Britain was a problem of black africans of immigrant descent.

1. While the terrorist crisis in Britain has been primarily an arab/asian problem, that in france has been a result of muslim youths who incidentally are from former muslim french colonies.

1. why not ignore the first sentence in my post then and focus on the most important part: the second one.
why are the muslims uprising in France? is it because of religion? what is your opinion on it?

arab/asian descents in Britain are being discriminated against too. many of the youth join terrorist groups as a way to outsource their anger. not to mention that they are being recruited by the terrorists themselves.

2. No where do you indicate such. Learn to accept that you don't really know much, stick with the forum games.

can you refer to a passage in my post where i claimed to "know much" ?
and what is going to happen if i decide not to move to the forum games?
do you "know much"?

WesleyanA:

can you point out at least 3 things that you found wrong with the articles? point out what's false in it. I challenge you (and don't just point out a snippet either. there are many big arguments in the article. debate one of those)
you lived there doesn't mean you know anything about there. at least you haven't proved to have.

The article is as porous as your very arguments. There is nothing there to debate.

WesleyanA:

do you not think that if the muslims were fighting christians all over the world just because "allah said so"
don't you think the yoruba muslims will be fighting the christian counterparts

The yoruba muslims issue is different, christianity and western education effectively curtailed the rise of fundamentalist islam in the south of Nigeria. There are muslims in the US but they dont go around killing their neighbours.

WesleyanA:

don't you think the terrorists would have bombed churches rather than a financial building?

they have bombed churches. . . read before making inane comments. Just ask the Assyrian christians in Baghdad. Besides bombing of the WTC symbolised to al qaeda a bombing of one of America's greatest symbols and not merely an intention to bomb a financial building. When you want to hit an enemy, you hit him where it hurts the most.

WesleyanA:

don't you think they would have bombed a more conservative christian country rather than the US that isn't even all that religious?

Which more conservative christian country? America and Britain are two nations founded on the principles of christianity. . . why do you think a few months ago Osama Bn Laden told Americans to prevent further bombings by converting to islam?

WesleyanA:

why do you think they target christians? there are other religions in the world. they should have bombed some buddhist temple in India.

lol there's no point arguing with you.   Are you living on the same planet with the rest of us? Go and google, i wont spoon feed you on this last point.

@davidylan

the Old testament in the Bible is no pacifist bed of roses either.

WesleyanA:

1. why not ignore the first sentence in my post then and focus on the most important part: the second one.
why are the muslims uprising in France? is it because of religion? what is your opinion on it?

The muslims in France claim marginalisation as a reason for their uprising, but that begs the question. Other blacks suffer racism too, why are they not firebombing the rest of Europe? Why are the muslims only the ones to erupt in a rage?

WesleyanA:

arab/asian descents in Britain are being discriminated against too. many of the youth join terrorist groups as a way to outsource their anger.

1. Please kindly tell us when and where these arabs/asians where discriminated against.
2. Is this discrimination any worse than the racism blacks have had to face for centuries? Why are blacks not killing everyone in sight considering EVEN asians and arabs discriminate against blacks?
3. Is anger the sole preserve of the muslim youth? why are they forever angry? From France to Lebanon, England, Pakistan, Holland . . . muslim youths are always looking for the slightest opportunity to be angry . . . why?

WesleyanA:

not to mention that they are being recruited by the terrorists themselves.

and this is England's fault?

ocho cinco:

@davidylan

the Old testament in the Bible is no pacifist bed of roses either.

and has anyone used the old testament to threaten your existence? My brother this is 2007 not 6000yrs ago, if you have nothing better to contribute then go and sleep. It is too late to be drinking palmwine.

You go on to claim that the problem is one of "indigenes vs settlers". That brings me to wonder, Lagos and abuja are the most ethnically diverse cities in Nigeria and YET there has NEVER been any record of religious violence in those 2 cities. Does that make sense to you?

there is no record of widespread religious violence in Lagos because the muslims there are mostly yoruba. unlike in the north where they are christian igbos.
igbos and hausas never had much in common to begin with. this is aside from religion.

abuja is the political capital of Nigeria. God forbid if it adopts sharia. Abuja should be one the most secular of the muslim states in the north. But this doesn't mean there haven't been religious violence in Abuja. remember the beauty pageant and the violent riots over it?

davidylan:

and has anyone used the old testament to threaten your existence? My brother this is 2007 not 6000yrs ago, if you have nothing better to contribute then go and sleep. It is too late to be drinking palmwine.

it might be "6000 years ago" but it definitely is relevant to this discussion. it was a theocratic government. just as many muslim countries still are.
all wars, violence etc have to be waged in the name of "God" unless the govt becomes more secular and adopts other ideologies to justify their violence with.

The muslims in France claim marginalisation as a reason for their uprising, but that begs the question. Other blacks suffer racism too, why are they not firebombing the rest of Europe? Why are the muslims only the ones to erupt in a rage?

the blacks in france are mostly muslim (north africa is mostly muslim).
i don't blame the minorities in France for their uprising. I infact support it to an extent. they live in ghettos (HLM) over there with little chance for upward mobility.
even the magic system (you're not a teenager so might not be familiar with the group ) made a song about it.
any people who live in that type of condition (i don't care what religion), i will be surprised if they don't protest.

WesleyanA:

it might be "6000 years ago" but it definitely is relevant to this discussion. it was a theocratic government. just as many muslim countries still are.
all wars, violence etc have to be waged in the name of "God" unless the govt becomes more secular and adopts other ideologies to justify their violence with.

How relevant is it to the modern day society? It reveals the depth to which islam has sunk if we need to dredge up 6000 yr old scenarios to excuse islamic violence. Maybe the muslims should think about moving to that era and leave the rest of us in peace.

WesleyanA:

the blacks in france are mostly muslim (north africa is mostly muslim).
i don't blame the minorities in France for their uprising. I infact support it to an extent. they live in ghettos (HLM) over there with little chance for upward mobility.
even the magic system (you're not a teenager so might not be familiar with the group ) made a song about it.
any people who live in that type of condition (i don't care what religion), i will be surprised if they don't protest.

there are marginalised black youth in other European countries and yet they dont firebomb themselves in the name of protesting. Why is this a uniquely muslem response?

1. Please kindly tell us when and where these arabs/asians where discriminated against.
2. Is this discrimination any worse than the racism blacks have had to face for centuries? Why are blacks not killing everyone in sight considering EVEN asians and arabs discriminate against blacks?
3. Is anger the sole preserve of the muslim youth? why are they forever angry? From France to Lebanon, England, Pakistan, Holland . . . muslim youths are always looking for the slightest opportunity to be angry . . . why?

1. trust me, discrimination/ racism is not unique to US alone. i don't need to quote websites to tell you that minorites of color are discriminated against in most white countries.
3. If you listen to rap music, the contents should show you why minorities are discontent. the rap musicians aren't making stuff up the stuff in their songs show the daily realities of their lives. it is not every muslim youth in Europe that is violent. it is just a very tiny percentage. (same with muslim terrorists) ignorant people unfortunately assume all muslims to be suicide bombers.
2. the asians and arabs in europe aren't "killing everyone in sight." what are you talking about?
there have been riots here and there just as blacks in america have rioted here and there over the centuries.

@Davidylan

Religious Islam is not the only belligerent movement which relies on ancient history
as a foundation or as a defence for its call to violence.

Nationalistic movements in all their irrationality often cite events dating back ages
when they wage their wars.

davidylan:

How relevant is it to the modern day society? It reveals the depth to which islam has sunk if we need to dredge up 6000 yr old scenarios to excuse islamic violence. Maybe the muslims should think about moving to that era and leave the rest of us in peace.

define "modern day society."
people in the west also believe that Africa as a whole is backward/ unmodern and wasting their money. why else would they be infected with diseases and poverty, wars and be needing foreign aid.

modernity is defined according to european and american standard. we should live up to their standard of modernity.

there are marginalised black youth in other European countries and yet they don't firebomb themselves in the name of protesting. Why is this a uniquely muslem response?

protests in france is not in form of bombing. mostly riots. of course there can be some non-muslims involved. it is just assumed that they are mostly muslims because most blacks in france are muslims.
the rioting were mainly as a result of inequality.

WesleyanA:

3. If you listen to rap music, the contents should show you why minorities are discontent. the rap musicians aren't making stuff up the stuff in their songs show the daily realities of their lives.

and how many of these rap artists are wearing suicide bombs and hijacking aircraft in the name of outrage?

WesleyanA:

it is not every muslim youth in Europe that is violent. it is just a very tiny percentage. (same with muslim terrorists) ignorant people unfortunately assume all muslims to be suicide bombers.

Just a very "tiny percentage" in Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Holland . . . these "tiny percentage" must have a very efficient way of multiplying themselves. It is ignorant people who desperately try to belittle the threat that militant islam poses to modern society until it ends up at their very doors.

WesleyanA:

2. the asians and arabs in europe aren't "killing everyone in sight." what are you talking about?

i never said anything of the sort. you seem to have a problem with comprehension.

WesleyanA:

there have been riots here and there just as blacks in america have rioted here and there over the centuries.

Nonsense! and there have been plane hijackings over the centuries and suicide bombings and rocket attacks and threats of genocide and the genocide occuring in Sudan and . . . .?

Ocho cinco, islam does not rely on ancient history, its foundations for terrorism are in that quran sitting pretty in your library.

WesleyanA:

define "modern day society."
people in the west also believe that Africa as a whole is backward/ unmodern and wasting their money. why else would they be infected with diseases and poverty, wars and be needing foreign aid.

modernity is defined according to european and american standard. we should live up to their standard of modernity.

this girl must be a dolt. So your idea of "modern day society" includes events that occured 6000yrs ago?

WesleyanA:

protests in france is not in form of bombing. mostly riots. of course there can be some non-muslims involved. it is just assumed that they are mostly muslims because most blacks in france are muslims.
the rioting were mainly as a result of inequality.

The french police just assumed the ethnicities of the youths involved in one of france's most violent protests? Go and read for your GED.

davidylan:

and how many of these rap artists are wearing suicide bombs and hijacking aircraft in the name of outrage?

rap groups in the US aren't muslim.
muslims in France also aren't suicide bombers. a high percentage of them are regular everyday muslims who live in ghettos and are in the working class or unemployed

Just a very "tiny percentage" in Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Holland . . . these "tiny percentage" must have a very efficient way of multiplying themselves. It is ignorant people who desperately try to belittle the threat that militant islam poses to modern society until it ends up at their very doors.

when was the last muslim suicide bombing in these countries? and how frequent do they occur?
just because the media exaggerates the extent and is biased against Islam doesn't mean that you should make claims as such.
what percentage of muslims do you think (in your assesment) are suicide bombers?

Nonsense! and there have been plane hijackings over the centuries and suicide bombings and rocket attacks and threats of genocide and the genocide occuring in Sudan and . . . .?

huh?! what are you trying to say?

davidylan:

Ocho cinco, islam does not rely on ancient history, its foundations for terrorism are in that quran sitting pretty in your library.

this girl must be a dolt. So your idea of "modern day society" includes events that occured 6000yrs ago?

The french police just assumed the ethnicities of the youths involved in one of france's most violent protests? Go and read for your GED.

we are talking of cultures and religions are we not? rather than events.
most religions are ancient but are still practiced today. does that mean that christianity should be modernized?
unless you're saying that muslim countries should follow a non-theocracy like the westerners and adopt a secular form of govt which contains no religion. This is what i support.

the ethnicity of french blacks are MOSTLY northern african. so the rioters are therefore, mostly northern african. this doesn't require a lot of brain power to figure out, Monsieur Davidylan. even the french immigrants from other parts of africa tend to be muslim.

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