Shey nor be the coach job to make the team play as a unit 😂😂

ChristoBam:

One thing I'm sure of is the cycle will continue if Ten Hag gets sacked. The new manager will come in and check out these players. And most of them will over perform again. I don't care how stubborn the manager is, you'll be fooled. You won't see Rashford banging in goals and say you want him gone. Shaw will look like prime Roberto Carlos again.

The only person they can't fool is Ten Hag. He's seen them over 2 years.

My only issue with this is that the players he has brought in for lots of money are barely any better.

lekkie073:

This questions can only be answered by those at the helms bro. How do you expect me to provide answer to this.

However, consistency is only possible when players have a perfect understanding of what the manager wants to achieve and they strive towards this objective. But while doing this, they may or may not get the desired results. The consequence of this is 'pressure on the manager'.



In my own opinion, manager is not the club's major problem. Team cohesion is more important and this can only be achieved when players have better understanding of themsleves on the pitch.

No matter how good Mainoo is, if there is no proper understanding between him, Casemiro and Fernandes, we will continue to see disjointed movements. The same goes for Garnacho, Hojlund and whoever makes the attack line.

This also goes for the defence set up.

Invariably, a team becomes better when the individual players play as a unit, not as individuals. Our players are yet to really play as a unit, probably because there is a lack of understanding amongst them

Who is responsible and accountable for the implementation of these things you described?

AdisaOwala:


Who is responsible and accountable for the implementation of these things you described?

the manager will only try. It is up to the players to really get an understanding of themsleves.
Have you tried managing a group of people who share no cohesion amongst themsleves?

ChristoBam:

Let's be realistic. We've still got things to fight for this season. We'll play the best way we probably can to get us across the line. Season's been all about survival for a while now.

How's the manager a part of this shit structure we've had for more than 10 years now?

Of course we still have things to fight for. What's your minimum expectation for this season?

lekkie073:

This questions can only be answered by those at the helms bro. How do you expect me to provide answer to this.

However, consistency is only possible when players have a perfect understanding of what the manager wants to achieve and they strive towards this objective. But while doing this, they may or may not get the desired results. The consequence of this is 'pressure on the manager'.



In my own opinion, manager is not the club's major problem. Team cohesion is more important and this can only be achieved when players have better understanding of themsleves on the pitch.

No matter how good Mainoo is, if there is no proper understanding between him, Casemiro and Fernandes, we will continue to see disjointed movements. The same goes for Garnacho, Hojlund and whoever makes the attack line.

This also goes for the defence set up.

Invariably, a team becomes better when the individual players play as a unit, not as individuals. Our players are yet to really play as a unit, probably because there is a lack of understanding amongst them

You know this is an indictment on the coach right? He is not just there to select match day squad, and call out some players while the whole world can see others that have been underwhelming for a long time now

Trevor012:
Shey nor be the coach job to make the team play as a unit 😂😂

what happens when a player like Greenwood decides to always overlook Ronald's side. Or you were not aware of this issue?

And if these two people are so important to the team, the manager may eventually take the blame for their acts, when it is not actually his fault. Team. Dynamics go beyond thinking the manager caneffecrively manage the personnel at his disposal.

On another note, you guys will only keep asking questions just to find a flaw in the comments to hold on to.

MRTA7:


My only issue with this is that the players he has brought in for lots of money are barely any better.

Let's blame the structure

ChristoBam:

Very annoying stuff tbh.

They don't know what they're encouraging is a situation the manager walks into the press conference scared to say anything that might get linked negatively to any player. Player power pro max.

How many people here paid attention to what was even said before Garnacho foolishly liked those tweets.

Tenhag don calm down unlike last season.. when if u mess up..u are out..
Disciplinary master..

lekkie073:
what happens when a player like Greenwood decides to always overlook Ronald's side. Or you were not aware of this issue?

And if these two people are so important to the team, the manager may eventually take the blame for their acts, when it is not actually his fault. Team. Dynamics go beyond thinking the manager caneffecrively manage the personnel at his disposal.

On another note, you guys will only keep asking questions just to find a flaw in the comments to hold on to.

Mr man every coach deals with these things. You are not talking to kids here. It's the job of the coach to mold the team to his image and how he wants them to play. Klopp will make 5 changes and bring in kids yet they will still dominate and play their usual football. cohesion ko collision ni. Just see the silly excuse you are coming up with.

Trevor012:

Mr man every coach deals with these things. You are not talking to kids here. It's the job of the coach to mold the team to his image and how he wants them to play. Klopp will make 5 changes and bring in kids yet they will still dominate and play their usual football. cohesion ko collision ni. Just see the silly excuse you are coming up with.

and how did Klopp fare in his early seasons?

lekkie073:
and how did Klopp fare in his early seasons?

Are you referring to the result or how they played?

eph12:

Are you referring to the result or how they played?

the two....

lekkie073:
and how did Klopp fare in his early seasons?

Better than your fraud that has dragging shots conceded with Sheffield and Luton.

Trevor012:

Better than your fraud that has dragging shots conceded with Sheffield and Luton.

oga, I am Not here to drag back and forth with you. I gave an opinion, not an official response to the problem. So I don't get why you just dey harp on issues like a slowpoke

lekkie073:
oga, I am Not here to drag back and forth with you. I gave an opinion, not an official response to the problem. So I don't get why you just dey harp on issues like a slowpoke

Your opinion to the issue is wack. How can any sensible person say it's not the coach job to bring cohesion and pattern of play to the team he is coaching. To top it all you brought example of greenwood that Ten hagg didn't even meet at United lmao.

Trevor012:

Your opinion to the issue is wack. How can any sensible person say it's not the coach job to bring cohesion and pattern of play to the team is coaching. To top it all you brought example of greenwood that Ten hagg didn't even meet at United lmao.

ok

lekkie073:
ok

Lekki phase one you are welcome.

;DTrevor012 say na lekki phase1.

Ajah or badagry nko

lekkie073:
arsenal seems to be playing good football and getting results now. How long did they wait to get to where they are.

For close to 30 years, a once dominant force (Liverpool) was in the abyss of mediocrity. Even as at now, they are yet to beat their chest to say they have arrived.

If mancity should continue with their spending and Guardiola continues getting his like-for-like replacements, then it's gonna being ride for manutd because we are not even ready to compete. For now, only Liverpool and arsenal seems to have the stability needed to compete with mancity

You refer to Arteta and Klopp but you must forget that with those, the project was clear from day one. Arteta won an FA cup in his first season playing exactly the way he plays now. It was not perfect but you could see the vision.
The absolute lack of direction is my problem with ten hag. And no amount of "building" should mean that we have almost zero good games in an entire season and be dragging stats with Luton and Sheffield

lekkie073:
the two....

Maybe you should try to separate both first and you will get a clearer picture of the terrible situation we are in

maik99:


You refer to Arteta and Klopp but you must forget that with those, the project was clear from day one. Arteta won an FA cup in his first season playing exactly the way he plays now. It was not perfect but you could see the vision.
The absolute lack of direction is my problem with ten hag. And no amount of "building" should mean that we have almost zero good games in an entire season and be dragging stats with Luton and Sheffield

To be fair we had one good half against Villa where we came back from 2 goals

Trevor012:

Mr man every coach deals with these things. You are not talking to kids here. It's the job of the coach to mold the team to his image and how he wants them to play. Klopp will make 5 changes and bring in kids yet they will still dominate and play their usual football. cohesion ko collision ni. Just see the silly excuse you are coming up with.

thank you very much

Santos07:
thank you very much

If you are not ready or capable to deal with big players and big names at the top clubs then what are you doing there.

maik99:


You refer to Arteta and Klopp but you must forget that with those, the project was clear from day one. Arteta won an FA cup in his first season playing exactly the way he plays now. It was not perfect but you could see the vision.
The absolute lack of direction is my problem with ten hag. And no amount of "building" should mean that we have almost zero good games in an entire season and be dragging stats with Luton and Sheffield

Jodera can you verify this?

maik99:


You refer to Arteta and Klopp but you must forget that with those, the project was clear from day one. Arteta won an FA cup in his first season playing exactly the way he plays now. It was not perfect but you could see the vision.
The absolute lack of direction is my problem with ten hag. And no amount of "building" should mean that we have almost zero good games in an entire season and be dragging stats with Luton and Sheffield

If the project is not clear in the case of manutd, then blame those at the helms, not the manager. The manager does not dictate the project,.

Mind you, ETH also won a trophy in his first season, but you chose not to see any vision

eph12:

Maybe you should try to separate both first and you will get a clearer picture of the terrible situation we are in

the situation is beyond terrible. But there is little you and I can do to remedy the situation.

Poor manager. Very helpless and timid. The club didn't give him any player and the players have refused to play as a team. But he won the carling cup last season, so the vision is clear. But if its not, blame the structure and those at the helm

lekkie073:
the situation is beyond terrible. But there is little you and I can do to remedy the situation.

That's why we are calling out those who can do something about it. Its just like saying we should not talk about the terrible situation in this country because there is little we can do to remedy the situation. Do you belong to APC?

Eph12, may God have mercy on you.

Your questions ehn. I fear you.

eph12:

That's why we are calling out those who can do something about it. Its just like saying we should not talk about the terrible situation in this country because there is little we can do to remedy the situation. Do you belong to APC?

yes, I belong to apc. In fact I am an SA to a local government chairman

eph12:
Poor manager. Very helpless and timid. The club didn't give him any player and the players have refused to play as a team. But he won the carling cup last season, so the vision is clear. But if its not, blame the structure and those at the helm

the manager will blame the players for his problems.
The club hierarchy will blame the manager for their problems.
The fans should blame........ Who?