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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 4:17pm On Jul 31, 2018
eph12:

Mourinho has bought players. He currently has 6 players that should be in the first team, players he bought himself. He has a world class keeper, that's 7 out of 11. Valencia can hold his own, forget all these things you people are saying. Young was quite good at the world cup. Tell me how many is that, that he can't do anything with the team. Do you know that we have the highest wage bill if I'm not mistaken? Have you considered what our debt profile looks like and the plan to manage it?

What kind of manager will say he can only win certain players? Is that not nonsense? It looks like someone has already planned his excuse down in case he fails.
Did you see the massive improvement that Walker and Mendy(yes he was injured ) brought to city last season. If the board had said no and he had continued using Sagna ,clichy etc would city has been that dominant? Every manager has certain players that fits into their idea and what they want to accomplish. .Young and Valencia have a combined age of 62+ lol.
if Jose had given Woodward his
list of 5 players when the season ended, the board
should've communicated to him at that time
informing him of their decisions and maybe asked
him to re do his wish list considering the profile of
players the board preferred, which going by Jose's
reaction, wasn't done.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 4:18pm On Jul 31, 2018
weedtaker:
Lol fixing liverpool by fighting for the last champions league spot, going trophyless for 3yrs now and loosing any cup final he manages to find himself in. cheesy grin
Give it time man.. Rome wasn't built in a day. You so love the drab footy Mou serves us, abi!!?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 4:19pm On Jul 31, 2018
eph12:

Did United under perform or over perform last season?
Did Liverpool progress or remain stagnant over the last 2 seasons? 4th to 4th 0 trophy to 0 trophy .

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sod09(m): 4:21pm On Jul 31, 2018
Skimpledawg:

My guy eeh, Wetin these scummies carry our eye see early last season after that Costa-Conte issue eeh, you go feel for us..


One good turn they say..... grin grin grin
deserves a better one grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:23pm On Jul 31, 2018
JayKayMaybachz:
Even though I don't like Klopp, that man is really fixing Liverpool. How does he do that!!? He fvcking adapts to suit most of the play in order for them to play as a team
That's what some of us has been saying. That Liverpool team wasn't playing like that before he came but you can see the changes. 3 years after we are still complaining about the same issues of LVG. so what exactly is he the highest paid coach for?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:25pm On Jul 31, 2018
Melvyn11:

Did Liverpool progress or remain stagnant over the last 2 seasons? 4th to 4th 0 trophy to 0 trophy .
I guess your answer is under perform then. Which means if the coach does more, that team can do better even without additions
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:29pm On Jul 31, 2018
Melvyn11:

Did you see the massive improvement that Walker and Mendy(yes he was injured ) brought to city last season. If the board had said no and he had continued using Sagna ,clichy etc would city has been that dominant? Every manager has certain players that fits into their idea and what they want to accomplish. .Young and Valencia have a combined age of 62+ lol.
if Jose had given Woodward his
list of 5 players when the season ended, the board
should've communicated to him at that time
informing him of their decisions and maybe asked
him to re do his wish list considering the profile of
players the board preferred, which going by Jose's
reaction, wasn't done.
Mendy? Lol.. You sef your points are always against you.

Pep cleared out, let Mourinho do same. Let him ask those players to find new clubs. It's money they are paying them not paper.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 4:37pm On Jul 31, 2018
eph12:

That's what some of us has been saying. That Liverpool team wasn't playing like that before he came but you can see the changes. 3 years after we are still complaining about the same issues of LVG. so what exactly is he the highest paid coach for?

Wrong on all account. Liverpool was always an attacking team even under Brendan Rodgers. They scored 101 goals in the epl 2013/2014 season 3rd highest In epl history . The foundation was already there. They actually would have won the league if not for Gerrard slip and finished 2nd. What is klopp highest league finish at Liverpool? Did Mourinho have a foundation to build from at united or you expected him to play possession football like van gaal
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:37pm On Jul 31, 2018
eph12:

I guess your answer is under perform then. Which means if the coach does more, that team can do better even without additions
Without further addition, you expect man utd to win the league.

If you hate someone, no matter what he do, you will never be satisfied.

So you are telling me that without further addition, man utd will be able to bridge the gap of 19 points. Even liverpool is improving their team.

Even when the window started, critics like Neville, Scholes are asking mou to sign 4-5 players.

You expect man utd to win the league with jones, smalling, rojo, no RW, no backup striker. What if lukaku gets injured.

The board should do their job and let mou do his. If he fails, then blame him and sack him. Simple.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 4:37pm On Jul 31, 2018
Melvyn11:

Did you see the massive improvement that Walker and Mendy(yes he was injured ) brought to city last season. If the board had said no and he had continued using Sagna ,clichy etc would city has been that dominant? Every manager has certain players that fits into their idea and what they want to accomplish. .Young and Valencia have a combined age of 62+ lol.
if Jose had given Woodward his
list of 5 players when the season ended, the board
should've communicated to him at that time
informing him of their decisions and maybe asked
him to re do his wish list considering the profile of
players the board preferred, which going by Jose's
reaction, wasn't done.

There is a mojor problem with what Mourunhos idea is. For me that's the major problem.

I know he has won things in the past but things are evolving right now.

Were the the players we have I still believe we can win the league, the problem is that our coach is a defensive coach who only likes this get attacking players that have defensive duties.

He is more particular about not losing a game than winning.

So if Mourinho gets all the players he wants and more his defensive approach to hames will be a problem. He should change the mentality of these players to a winning one and also grow a brain whenaking selections, choosing a style of play and substitution. Renewing Players like Fellainis contract, having young as fullback and some players we are not sure what they will bring to the game on a particular day just makes everything complicated.

If we get 4 out of the 5Mourinho wants and we win nothing, he will now claim it was because we didn't complete his request. I just tire!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 4:43pm On Jul 31, 2018
eph12:

Mendy? Lol.. You sef your points are always against you.

Pep cleared out, let Mourinho do same. Let him ask those players to find new clubs. It's money they are paying them not paper.
If Mourinho dumbs 6 to 7 players at once can they be replaced in a single transfer window like pep Did at city? Can United afford to spend 300million in a single transfer window?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:47pm On Jul 31, 2018
Melvyn11:

Did you see the massive improvement that Walker and Mendy(yes he was injured ) brought to city last season. If the board had said no and he had continued using Sagna ,clichy etc would city has been that dominant? Every manager has certain players that fits into their idea and what they want to accomplish. .Young and Valencia have a combined age of 62+ lol.
if Jose had given Woodward his
list of 5 players when the season ended, the board
should've communicated to him at that time
informing him of their decisions and maybe asked
him to re do his wish list considering the profile of
players the board preferred, which going by Jose's
reaction, wasn't done.

How did Mendy bring improvement to City when he was injured for most of the season?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 4:51pm On Jul 31, 2018
raumdeuter:


How did Mendy bring improvement to City when he was injured for most of the season?
Before his injury didn't you see the improvement and quality he brought into the Man City squad. Oya scratch out Mendy, was Walker not an improvement over what they had.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:52pm On Jul 31, 2018
Melvyn11:

If Mourinho dumbs 6 to 7 players at once can they be replaced in a single transfer window like pep Did at city? Can United afford to spend 300million in a single transfer window?


So what is the point of extending players that he wont use and piling them giving them salary when he wont use them.

City had older players when Pep came in. They had the 3rd oldest squad in the entire league. Most of the players Pep chased were old. Sagna, Kolarov, Clichy, Zabaleta Yaya Navas Fernando were all old and had to be replaced.

While Pep was signing young players most under 25, Mourinho was giving huge wages to Alexis -29, Zlatan-25, Matic-29 now chasing Willian-29

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:54pm On Jul 31, 2018
Melvyn11:

Before his injury didn't you see the improvement and quality he brought into the Man City squad. Oya scratch out Mendy, was Walker not an improvement over what they had.

mendy played 3 games before he was injured in his 4th game. Was Matic not an improvement over what you had? Was Alexis, Bailly etc not an improvement? Or what is exactly this point you are making?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:55pm On Jul 31, 2018
Godwindanielboy:
Without further addition, you expect man utd to win the league.

If you hate someone, no matter what he do, you will never be satisfied.

So you are telling me that without further addition, man utd will be able to bridge the gap of 19 points. Even liverpool is improving their team.

Even when the window started, critics like Neville, Scholes are asking mou to sign 4-5 players.

You expect man utd to win the league with jones, smalling, rojo, no RW, no backup striker. What if lukaku gets injured.

The board should do their job and let mou do his. If he fails, then blame him and sack him. Simple.
Where did I state that the team doesn't need additions? Let's face it, it will be difficult for City to achieve what they did last season. That can't be used as yardstick.

With a solid midfield and attack, the current defenders can do a very good job. It's when the midfield is nonexistent that it exposes the defense. It's City midfield and attack that's doing the job. We all know what happens when the defense comes under pressure but the attack make up for it by scoring goals.

Tell Mr Mourinho to work on the team's build up play. Let him sell the Rojo and co that you're complaining about. He has had 5 transfer windows to do away with them. Sell them and play kids if the board doesn't buy and you will see how the board will rush to buy. But you can't continue to keep those guys and want more transfers. Those guys wages are not small

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 5:05pm On Jul 31, 2018
raumdeuter:


So what is the point of extending players that he wont use and piling them giving them salary when he wont use them.

City had older players when Pep came in. They had the 3rd oldest squad in the entire league. Most of the players Pep chased were old. Sagna, Kolarov, Clichy, Zabaleta Yaya Navas Fernando were all old and had to be replaced.

While Pep was signing young players most under 25, Mourinho was giving huge wages to Alexis -29, Zlatan-25, Matic-29 now chasing Willian-29
Bravo is 23 shey? Dani alves and bonnuci that pep wanted where also young lol. Nolito that pep bought was he not also 29. Maybe Pogba, lukaku, Lindelof, Bailey, now Fred and dalot are also 50years old.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 5:07pm On Jul 31, 2018
eph12:

Where did I state that the team doesn't need additions? Let's face it, it will be difficult for City to achieve what they did last season. That can't be used as yardstick.

With a solid midfield and attack, the current defenders can do a very good job. It's when the midfield is nonexistent that it exposes the defense. It's City midfield and attack that's doing the job. We all know what happens when the defense comes under pressure but the attack make up for it by scoring goals.

Tell Mr Mourinho to work on the team's build up play. Let him sell the Rojo and co that you're complaining about. He has had 5 transfer windows to do away with them. Sell them and play kids if the board doesn't buy and you will see how the board will rush to buy. But you can't continue to keep those guys and want more transfers. Those guys wages are not small

If after reading your last paragraph the nigga still argues with you and you make the mistake of replying then na better hot punch dey wait for you from me...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:09pm On Jul 31, 2018
Melvyn11:

Bravo is 23 shey? Dani alves and bonnuci that pep wanted where also young lol. Nolito that pep bought was he not also 29. Maybe Pogba, lukaku, Lindelof, Bailey, now Fred and dalot are also 50years old.

Did Pep sign Alves and Bonnuci? Zlatan that Mourinho gave huge wages, what is he contributing to the team now?

Pep weeded out Sagna Clichy Kolarov Zabaleta Hart Yaya and replaced them with Ederson Walker, Mendy, Laporte. That shows a coach who knows what he s doing. 40M Lindelof cant even make the team and you already told us Fred is a 3rd sbstitute behind Fellaini and Herrera
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:13pm On Jul 31, 2018
Melvyn11:

Wrong on all account. Liverpool was always an attacking team even under Brendan Rodgers. They scored 101 goals in the epl 2013/2014 season 3rd highest In epl history . The foundation was already there. They actually would have won the league if not for Gerrard slip and finished 2nd. What is klopp highest league finish at Liverpool? Did Mourinho have a foundation to build from at united or you expected him to play possession football like van gaal
2014 loun loun cheesy
What happened after then? Which foundation is that when even LVG have been managing United to do better than LFC? In fact who has had a better foundation between Mourinho and Klopp when united has been doing better than lfc before the arrival of the two coaches
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:15pm On Jul 31, 2018
eph12:

Why emphasis on money spent? Is that what football clubs are about? Just spend money anyhow without clear understanding of how the returns will happen?

Chelsea spent it in one year and they will be playing Thursday night football. You think you just spend money anyhow because your opponents are spending money.
How about players CFC sold. E.g costa and matic.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 5:18pm On Jul 31, 2018
raumdeuter:


mendy played 3 games before he was injured in his 4th game. Was Matic not an improvement over what you had? Was Alexis, Bailly etc not an improvement? Or what is exactly this point you are making?
Stop trying to create another argument. Follow the discourse from the beginning. Pep needed his young fullbacks city gave him 2. Mourinho needs his 29yrs wingers cus they fit his style better first persic and now willian which the board has failed to do. If Mourinho wants to pack his bus give him what he asks for not depriving him and then putting the blame on him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pharod(m): 5:18pm On Jul 31, 2018
raumdeuter:


Did Pep sign Alves and Bonnuci? Zlatan that Mourinho gave huge wages, what is he contributing to the team now?

Pep weeded out Sagna Clichy Kolarov Zabaleta Hart Yaya and replaced them with Ederson Walker, Mendy, Laporte. That shows a coach who knows what he s doing. 40M Lindelof cant even make the team and you already told us Fred is a 3rd sbstitute behind Fellaini and Herrera

Na this part I never understand at all... How? Av asked him b4 but he refused to answer...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by monerozi5590: 5:22pm On Jul 31, 2018
CrystalTiger:


If after reading your last paragraph the nigga still argues with you and you make the mistake of replying then na better hot punch dey wait for you from me...


Very funny. Dude you just made my evening. Just can't stop laughing.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:24pm On Jul 31, 2018
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:28pm On Jul 31, 2018
Melvyn11:

Stop trying to create another argument. Follow the discourse from the beginning. Pep needed his young fullbacks city gave him 2. Mourinho needs his 29yrs wingers cus they fit his style better first persic and now willian which the board has failed to do. If Mourinho wants to pack his bus give him what he asks for not depriving him and then putting the blame on him.

If every coach in the world have everything they want then don't every team be filled with messi and Ronaldo?
And since they can't get messi or ronaldo why demand trophies from them.

You think pep won't prefer to have alexis in his team or Marcelo as left back or Ronaldo instead of sterling or neuer instead of Ederson

You think if he was to choose, he will pick Danilo a Madrid bencher or unproven Leroy Sane or Ederson
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by monerozi5590: 5:28pm On Jul 31, 2018
Melvyn11:


He's spent £290m the last 2 summers, where the Bleep did you get £400m
from? City spent £270m last summer alone, Chelsea spent £250m last
year alone. Guess the last 2 epl winners?

Bros you d see well so... I said 433 Million Euros. Did i mention Pounds?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 5:32pm On Jul 31, 2018
Afolabi6046:

after multiple pre-season loss nii o cheesy
they can't even wait till Leceister popo them on a chilly chilly Friday Night
I can't wait to see Vardy celebrate.
Oga I am a Utd fan

But I have to face things that will benefit me than 2 be killing myself over the club issues
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:35pm On Jul 31, 2018
CrystalTiger:


If after reading your last paragraph the nigga still argues with you and you make the mistake of replying then na better hot punch dey wait for you from me...
No vex cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by onyeomaonyeoma(m): 6:07pm On Jul 31, 2018
patrickmuf:
Erikson has outshined Pogba is the last 3 years just as Kane has produce better output in the same period over Sanchez...
Talking about trophies, it's subject to the collective contributions of a team and not just a player...
are u for real...the last 3 yrs which is 2015-2018 within that period Alexis was leading arsenal to FA cup glory and scoring also while Kane was dragging highest goals scorer....

The Eriksson part got me cracking up....what has he done usefully within that period...if I should ask u nah u will say he is Tottenham highest assist player something that main man Pogba did in his last season at Juve wining the league along....came to man utd delivere Carling cup and Europa and to top it all winning the ultimate prize the world cup..

so bro all this things are within last 3seasons.....


U guys should appreciate our players the more those spurs bottlers got not on Pogboom and Sanchez..ciao
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:25pm On Jul 31, 2018
neezar:

Oga I am a Utd fan

But I have to face things that will benefit me than 2 be killing myself over the club issues
Pardon my ignorance

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 6:29pm On Jul 31, 2018
Wail Scummies, wail




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