Lana1:
I dont understand how providing visual proof of Shaw's mistake turn Jamb.

Lol. Young crossed like an idiot in the first leg against Barca and killed a nice attack. The very next week, he did a splendid job in assisting Messi for the 2nd goal.....but he doesn't make mistakes.
Against Liverpool at OT in March, Young was the reason Liverpool had a freekick in our box within 2 minutes after the game started.

You are the one who is blind to Young's uselessness because you have a knack for constantly supporting geriatric, underperforming players. No be today.


And if you are talking about Shaw's mistake in defending the corner against Huddersfield, how was that chance any different from Matic allowing Kimpembe to score against PSG at Old Trafford? Yet u never said anything about that because ur precious Matic can do no wrong.

elampiro:


I guess Mourinho already played four of the top five teams in those 17 matches. May be he could have turned it around with the next fixtures which required less pressure. However, once English media and fans are on a coach, his own is finished. He loses focus. No one has survived it.

elampiro:


You don't get it. The three errors of Luke Shaw that he was the last men, were school boy errors. No other player in the team made one of such errors. But Shaw made three. We are not even talking of those ones he shifts inward and allow acres of yard in the flank so that they would not say he was dribbled.

Young usually hold for the CBS and deal with threats well. But Shaw cost us three times when he had to be the last man in defence. He was even at an advantage from where he lost his man.

elampiro:


Shaw's errors are the worst, stop beating around the bush. He looked like a vallage backman when he made those mistakes.

eph12:

OGS played against Tottenham, city, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool. I don't understand this your comment here

ChristoBam:

Lol very clueless people. Shouting Ole needs to get his players first before the criticisms begins..So Ole needs new signings like Dybala and Co to beat Cardiff and Huddersfield, right?? Cardiff at Old Trafford!!!!!!
Let me ask you guys a question, if Ole had not been given the permanent job and we had decided to wait till the end of the season, would he be given the Job?? Answer this in your mind, then ask. yourself why won't he be given? Maybe you'll understand why Ole is the wrong choice.
I see some of you are starting to see what I've been saying since. One guy even said if 5 of the players starts next season, he start calling for Ole's head. We both know more than 5 of these players will be starting next season. You just want to create an avenue to join the sensible people that knew Ole is not the way forward.

elampiro:


Shaw's errors are the worst, stop beating around the bush. He looked like a vallage backman when he made those mistakes.

olu98:


I think the error is two or so.
am a neutral on this Luke matter.
but if am left with shaw or young as the last man to defend or cover a space, will still choose shaw 100times over. and I think fatigue affected shaw too, he played the left back position almost 30 times in the premier league, dalot played there twice and I think young played there twice also.
+ shaw has 5 assists and 1 goal this season in the epl. thats a decent return for a left back.

GloryIsaac:


Yeah, his errors are worse, but somehow he won the Club Player of the Season award ahead of Pogba, Herrera, Matic, Lukaku, your darling Young and co.

He did magic and caused the eyes of every Man United fan to be blind except yours.

liveLongNprospa:



So if the players are the problem, why is mourinho still called the special fraud?

And when Zidane took over, we were having a terrible season because Benitez didn't know what he was doing, especially after the El Classico loss.
Him winning the UCL helped his case coz the game play changed, plus don't forget CR7 put up a world class performance in the UCL and we basically played better. Him winning the UCL helped his case.

Your own is different. The moment he was confirmed everything went down hill.
So I don't see the correlation. Zidane's team got better, even without needing preseason football. OGS team died immediately.

That tells me that even after the mood of Benitez being sacked was over, the manager still showed he was tactically sound to get the team to fight barca till like the last week or so and still win the UCL.

OGS has shown no such thing when his tactics was needed. That's the difference Lana1

elampiro:


Media made him their darling the first international break where he drove one ball forward for England and gave an assist. Since then he is the next Ashley Cole.

Lana1:
Before he was made permanent, about 95%.

But now, on a scale of 0 to 100, about 60% confident.

GloryIsaac:


Apart from OGS, his critics have been shouting 'Poch' since... Truth be told, Levy won't let Poch go as easily as everyone here keeps mentioning his name. This isn't a football manager game, it's real life ffs.

If Poch was going to get hired miraculously, that would certainly be at the end of the season, not mid-season.

And OGS performed well before getting the job, which makes me believe that he should be given the chance to build his squad.... Every coach that has been mentioned here, from Pep to Klopp to Poch all had a squad overhaul after they arrived the club, Klopp and Poch haven't even won stuff since they came, so if folks believe so much in them despite not winning any trophy, why is the case different with OGS?

Klopp's Liverpool bottled almost a 10-point lead over Man City, and started playing catch-up and hoping for some miracles which never happened. No one is talking about that.

Pochettino lost seven of his last ten league matches and even drew today, but no one is talking about that. The same critics who are giving excuses about injuries causing those losses have suddenly forgotten that Manchester United also had an injury crisis before this bad run.

liveLongNprospa:



So if the players are the problem, why is mourinho still called the special fraud?

liveLongNprospa:
And when Zidane took over, we were having a terrible season because Benitez didn't know what he was doing, especially after the El Classico loss.
Him winning the UCL helped his case coz the game play changed, plus don't forget CR7 put up a world class performance in the UCL and we basically played better. Him winning the UCL helped his case.

Your own is different. The moment he was confirmed everything went down hill.
So I don't see the correlation. Zidane's team got better, even without needing preseason football. OGS team died immediately.

liveLongNprospa:
That tells me that even after the mood of Benitez being sacked was over, the manager still showed he was tactically sound to get the team to fight barca till like the last week or so and still win the UCL.

OGS has shown no such thing when his tactics was needed. That's the difference Lana1

GloryIsaac:
Saying you want OGS out before next season lol.. go and hire coach for us nah

Or does this look like a computer game where everything is in your power?

The Club gave Moyes just a season and booted him quickly.

They hired a man who had just done wonders at the World Cup with Holland, and also booted him after he failed to get the best out of his signings.

Then (despite having a divided fanbase), in desperation to win something more valuable than the F.A cup, they hired a coach who had won the UCL two times, won the premier league too, even though he was clearly anti-ManUtd in the way he did things. He also got booted out.

Now, OGS hasn't even been here up to 5 months, and you're already calling for his head. The very thing which was used in making fun of clubs like Chelsea is what the club has been turned into.

Truth be told, rebuilding is a process, even the Klopp and Poch who are seemingly the possible saviors of ManUtd are having a trophyless issue at their own clubs!
Even if they were signed tomorrow, they too will also need time to build their team! Get that into your heads!

GloryIsaac:



We that watch football were obviously influenced by the media, abi?

You didn't see all my posts about how English media overhypes their players?

Is Ashley Young not English? Why didn't they hype him over Shaw?

Or Young did not play international match? Only Shaw played international match.

elampiro:


Ashely Young his own for England at the left back for England. Injury meant he was left out for that trip. Shaw was a new thing. Everyone wants new thing until......

GloryIsaac:


This excuse holds no weight.

Lana1:
They said OGS was always playing defensively like special fraud and that he no get tactics and everything is always his fault.

Unlike the Watford and West Ham home games, today we had 70% possession, 20 attempts but to score na problem. But it's still OGS's fault. Same against Huddersfield, Arsenal and Chelsea. But it's OGS fault.

We can create 100 chances and have 100% possession but if we dont score, it will still be OGS's fault.
If the Queen dies tomorrow just check...na OGS cause am.

GloryIsaac:


It's just crazy!

Even the Poch that currently got into UCL finals did it because of Lucas Moura... he made that clear in his interview.

Not to mention Ziyech who had luck against him in the ending stages of the match.

larride:


I think everyone has their preferred manager in mind but there’s no guarantee that one will perform better than the other. I don’t think I have ever advocated for Poch here.

My grouse with OGS is that I believe by now we should know the way he wants to set up his team, not just by saying it but seeing it on the pitch of play. All these talk about the United way yen yen yen is bullshit until we see what you are trying to implement on the pitch. In Pep first season, everyone would see the way Pep wants his team to play, you would see it on the pitch. No matter how terrible his players were in those first season, he still stick to how he want to them to play and his football philosophy. Everyone can see it on the pitch.

OGS has always said he wants his team to be the most hardworking team in the league but we are not seeing it. We press for 5 mins and thats it. We revert back to the park the bus counter attacking style and he just sit down there looking like Dundee Utd. If your players are not playing to your instructions you need to be on the touch line barking instructions to them. All these talk about him getting his own players before we see how he will set up is team is bullshit.

He’s the manager and the way the players play is his responsibility.

GloryIsaac:


This excuse holds no weight.

So you mean Ashley Young, a world cup semi fanalist left/wing back is not capable? Man, the position was his having helped us to dominate teams there and helped England there too. His injury meant he was not called and then the hype with the untested new man. hey hey hey

This was same Young who helped Van Gaal to assassinate Liverpool, City, Spurs, etc from that position and he was being called new Ronaldo by some playful United fans. He carried on, although with a little less productivity, until his performance from there last year won him England call up after many years. He didnt just make up the numbers, but played there for England up to semi final of the world cup.

GloryIsaac:


First of all, today's match was insignificant. Which is clearly why guys like Greenwood were allowed to play all through.

Secondly, it had already been mathematically confirmed that we were not going for UCL ahead of today's match, so it's quite surprising that you guys are wailing about it. Even if Cardiff was beaten 6-0, it won't change you or the chemical guy's opinion about OGS, neither will it push the team into top four. You guys will probably have said something like 'na small team'

Thirdly, the coaches you look up to have had a squad overhaul within their time at the club. Check Liverpool's squad before Klopp and now. Man City's squad before Pep and now. Tottenham squad before Poch and now.
OGS hasn't stayed up to 5 months!
Do you really think Poch will do magic with this squad? He will obviously need to rebuild his squad before criticism starts flowing in ffs.

So, those that believe OGS should be given time are not sensible, right? Good.

Lana1:
Abeg what tactics did Poch and Spurs even play against Ajax? Was it tiki-taka, kati-kati, possesion based football, ghen ghen high press or park the bus?

What's that one style of play that makes Spurs stand out like City's tiki-taka or Liverpool's high press?


But OGS must put his own tactics and style of play on placard and raise it above his head every matchday in the dugout.

Unlimited22:

Nah, it's young, every excuse holds weight.

Leyqute:


Stop engaging Christobam. He’s already tried and sentenced OGS without a trial. He’s the type of guy that will disappear if OGS starts doing well next season after tweaking the squad.

And when he loses he’ll be here to gloat, sorta like Ruddie.