afrodoc2:


Of course generally speaking that should be the case. I am just trying to show the clear gap in talent level between those 2 and the rest. Only lack of fitness or effort will make either Pogba or Bruno long term bench players.

The gap isn't that clear. I'm not buying the hype

Skimpledawg:

So much anger in this post.

The anger of the Lord is always kindled against the children of Baal.

eph12:

The gap isn't that clear. I'm not buying the hype

OK.

GloryIsaac:


Only space left on the pitch is RCM, and Fred’s performance there so far doesn’t match that of McTominay.

Pogba is the reason Fred isn’t in most lineups touted.

He's not limited to CM only, he can play as DM or AM.

Oasis007:


He's not limited to CM only, he can play as DM or AM.

Still won’t be first-choice in those positions.

eph12:

I just hope is able to put in that work rate Fred was putting in

I don’t think so. However, I expect him to play very well because of the link-up with Bruno.

Whoever that makes up the 3-man midfield will need to cover ground very well.

Nezzjnr:

Lingard isn't doing enough

For someone seemingly coming out of depression or so, he might play well when given the chance.

Well enough to have potential buyers interested.

handelex:
If I see Lingard in that no10 role again... I don't know what I'll do

Andreas it is

VicThory:

When are they playing the game?

It should have been played yesterday being Tuesday

eph12:

The gap isn't that clear. I'm not buying the hype

It's not hype, the Gap is indeed clear. You can't compare Bruno and Pogba with any of Midfielders Bro.

GloryIsaac:


Still won’t be first-choice in those positions.

Well, we ain't their Manager. Let's wait and see what Ole gonna reel out.

eph12:

I just hope is able to put in that work rate Fred was putting in

Pogba can't do that, he's not that type of player.

GloryIsaac:


I don’t think so. However, I expect him to play very well because of the link-up with Bruno.

Whoever that makes up the 3-man midfield will need to cover ground very well.

I feel we still need Matic in that DM but he'll need the work rate of Fred to do well. Tom is solid though I still have questions about his abilities and decisions when with the ball

Oasis007:


It's not hype, the Gap is indeed clear. You can't compare Bruno and Pogba with any of Midfielders Bro.

Which of their attributes are you looking at?

handelex:
Pogba can't do that, he's not that type of player.

Hopefully we won't be back to insulting Pogba here very soon

GloryIsaac:

Andreas it is

This one is a mid table team player at best.

Oasis007:


It's not hype, the Gap is indeed clear. You can't compare Bruno and Pogba with any of Midfielders Bro.

Well each have their own strengths and weaknesses, the reason why balance is important.

eph12:

Which of their attributes are you looking at?

Skills-wise all, maybe Passion-wise Fred and Co have an Edge.

eph12:

Hopefully we won't be back to insulting Pogba here very soon

Hopefully his head will be in the game.

GloryIsaac:


For someone seemingly coming out of depression or so, he might play well when given the chance.

Well enough to have potential buyers interested.

Depression bawo

Lingard is finished

Oasis007:


Skills-wise all, maybe Passion-wise Fred and Co have an Edge.

I'm not interested in the drimbling ability of a central midfielder
Look at the attributes below and show me how Pogba has been clearly or far above Fred in the last 2-3 years
Key passes
Average passes
Pass succes percentage
Crosses
Long balls
Through balls
Tackles
Interceptions
Blocks

Then include the passion and tell me your conclusion

Oasis007:


Fred has proven himself. I won't leave him out of starting XI, if I'm charge. I'll rather play him along with Pogba and Bruno

Defensively he has improved a lot. He's a Runner, energetic, more like a B2B Midfielder. He has paid his Dues, thus he has earned my Respect.

That won't work, when you have Matic and Scot available...

Pogba and Bruno won't play all the games, so there is more than enough game-time for everyone.

eph12:

I'm not interested in the drimbling ability of a central midfielder
Look at the attributes below and show me how Pogba has been clearly or far above Fred in the last 2-3 years
Key passes
Average passes
Pass succes percentage
Crosses
Long balls
Through balls
Tackles
Interceptions
Blocks

Then include the passion and tell me your conclusion

Delete this post.

So you want to compare Fred and Pogba?

It's like using tackles, blocks and interception to rate David Silva, Juan Mata, Ozil, Bernando Silva, Bruno Fernandes etc

Expert17:


Delete this post.

So you want to compare Fred and Pogba?

It's like using tackles, blocks and interception to rate David Silva, Juan Mata, Ozil, Bernando Silva, Bruno Fernandes etc

We are talking about their roles as CM not when they have permissions to play as the AM. If Pogba will be playing as an AM then I have no problem with that. But as CM, there are plenty questions.

What are the things you expect from a CM?

eph12:

I feel we still need Matic in that DM but he'll need the work rate of Fred to do well. Tom is solid though I still have questions about his abilities and decisions when with the ball

Matic is effective against slow teams.. especially the defensive ones.

It’ll be Bruno-Pogba-McTom. Except Ole wants a diamond which I doubt.

eph12:

Hopefully we won't be back to insulting Pogba here very soon

Show-boater

GloryIsaac:


Matic is effective against slow teams.. especially the defensive ones.

It’ll be Bruno-Pogba-McTom. Except Ole wants a diamond which I doubt.

Matic was solid against City na

I go with dutch reds

eph12:

Matic was solid against City na

Anomaly

eph12:

We are talking about their roles as CM not when they have permissions to play as the AM. If Pogba will be playing as an AM then I have no problem with that. But as CM, there are plenty questions.

What are the things you expect from a CM?

You have to choose one, better defensive play (Fred) or better attacking play (Pogba).

And don't forget the best way to defend is by attacking.

eph12:

Matic was solid against City na

Against big teams, ...he played well

@ Anfield.

Expert17:


Against big teams, ...he played well

@ Anfield.

I think he played against Chelsea too can't remember