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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:35pm On Nov 08, 2020
TrebleChamp:
Martial and Rashford cost us the FA Cup and Europa league last season, we definitely won't move forward as quickly as we want having Martial as our main striker period. Which big team would Martial start as main striker?

So, your striker must score how many goals before we can win the league?

Meanwhile, let’s sort out the system first, and watch how these players will be scoring goals for fun.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:38pm On Nov 08, 2020
Expert17:


Yes, Martial is trying his best....he had a great contribution last season.

But we can't win the league with Martial as our no 1 Striker.

Must your striker score 30 epl goals before we can win the league? there are other forward players that can help reach those milestones as a club. I am talking about the guy playing number 10, the winger on the right and the one on the right.

We all know that Firminho does not score lots of goals as a striker, but Liverpool still won the league.

The system matters!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 3:42pm On Nov 08, 2020
Leyqute:


Exactly.

Im still a bit surprised at how Ziyech is settling down in the EPL. I thought he wasn’t strong enough for the league physically and mentally.

So, far he is proving me wrong. However, everybody looks good when their team is playing well. The real test will come when they hit a rough patch.

He’s been impressive so far.
You foul spirit from Babylon, may mountain fall on you.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:44pm On Nov 08, 2020
nitrogen:

Must your striker score 30 epl goals before we can win the league? there are other forward players that can help reach those milestones as a club. I am talking about the guy playing number 10, the winger on the right and the one on the right.

We all know that Firminho does not score lots of goals as a striker, but Liverpool still won the league.

The system matters!

Martial is not a CF, that's the message.

We need a CF that can

- compete in the air/score headers

-smell goal and position himself for goal

- out muscle defenders

Liverpool system is not static, Firminho is not rooted to CF position, there is constant interchange.

I can't remember Fergie winning the league with a CF that is not a starter for his country.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:45pm On Nov 08, 2020
Man City won the league in 18/19, Agusto scored 21 league goals, it was Raheem that supported with another 17 goals and Sane 10 goals.

We don’t need Martial to score 30 Epl goals before we can win the league. Rashford, Bruno, Greenwood etc will provide the right level of support.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 3:47pm On Nov 08, 2020
nitrogen:


So, your striker must score how many goals before we can win the league?

Meanwhile, let’s sort out the system first, and watch how these players will be scoring goals for fun.
After now you will say i don't watch our games, am sure you are happy with Martial's attitude on the pitch. He is lazy, unserious and should be our main striker if we really want to progress as a club period...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:49pm On Nov 08, 2020
Expert17:


Martial is not a CF, that's the message.

We need a CF that can

- compete in the air/score headers

-smell goal and position himself for goal

- out muscle defenders

Liverpool system is not static, Firminho is not rooted to CF position, there is constant interchange.

I can't remember Fergie winning the league with a CF that is not a starter for his country.

Again, depends on the system, you have said that Liverpool’s is not static, correct, but we all know that Firminho is the main striker.

Cross and nod system depends on a striker that competes in the air....... meanwhile, no striker is complete.

So our striker must be a starter for his country? Wow!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 3:53pm On Nov 08, 2020
nitrogen:
Man City won the league in 18/19, Agusto scored 21 league goals, it was Raheem that supported with another 17 goals and Sane 10 goals.

We don’t need Martial to score 30 Epl goals before we can win the league. Rashford, Bruno, Greenwood etc will provide the right level of support.
If Martial was given us performance like that of Sterling or Sane, we won't be complaining would we? Dude just put up lazy attitude on the pitch like nothing is at stake, anyway we need a proper goal scorer to help propel us to greatness again...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:53pm On Nov 08, 2020
TrebleChamp:
After now you will say i don't watch our games, am sure you are happy with Martial's attitude on the pitch. He is lazy, unserious and should be our main striker if we really want to progress as a club period...

Well, Nistelrooy was lazy, but the system was very good, he scored goals for fun.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:55pm On Nov 08, 2020
nitrogen:


Again, depends on the system, you have said that Liverpool’s is not static, correct, but we all know that Firminho is the main striker.

Cross and nod system depends on a striker that competes in the air....... meanwhile, no striker is complete.
So our striker must be a starter for his country? Wow!

@bolded....yes, he must be that good. This is Manchester United not Bolton.

Ferguson that was signing all the available top strikers is not stupid.

Martial can't be our top 9 under Fergie.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:55pm On Nov 08, 2020
TrebleChamp:
If Martial was given us performance like that of Sterling or Sane, we won't be complaining would we? Dude just put up lazy attitude on the pitch like nothing is at stake, anyway we need a proper goal scorer to help propel us to greatness again...

No! We need Martial, Rashford, Greenwood to each give us 15 EPL goals (on average) by season, and we'll be fine. Also, we need a system that aids fluidity upfront so you dont rely on Martial to give you 30 EPL goals in a season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 3:58pm On Nov 08, 2020
Lindelof is such a useless defender. I dont detest any United player as much as this guy.

He didn't even make attempt to leap for this cross knowing DCL was lurking.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:59pm On Nov 08, 2020
nitrogen:


Well, Nistelrooy was lazy, but the system was very good, he scored goals for fun.

Van Nistelrooy lazy? Abeg oo

Someone that sniffs around the goal area like mad, great positioning, ..... he is a complete CF.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:59pm On Nov 08, 2020
Expert17:


@bolded....yes, he must be that good. This is Manchester United not Bolton.

Ferguson that was signing all the available top strikers is not stupid.

Martial can't be our top 9 under Fergie.

I guess starting as the main striker for a country is a function of the player's club performances. (Correlation or causation or both?).......and that takes us back to the club's system of play!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 4:01pm On Nov 08, 2020
Expert17:


Van Nistelrooy lazy? Abeg oo

Someone that sniffs around the goal area like mad, great positioning, ..... he is a complete CF.


Laziness and positioning......are different.

Nistelrooy was lazy, except you did not watch him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 96forever: 4:08pm On Nov 08, 2020
nitrogen:


Laziness and positioning......are different.

Nistelrooy was lazy, except you did not watch him.
there’s a reason why despite him scoring for fun we were not winning trophies that much, compare that to Rooney Ronaldo Tevez where we didn’t depend on a lone striker for goals.

Someone being called expert doesn’t mean he/she is good at something.. he/she can still be expert in foolishness. cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:20pm On Nov 08, 2020
nitrogen:


Laziness and positioning......are different.

Nistelrooy was lazy, except you did not watch him.

A lazy CF won't be in the right position

Football is brain work not garagara, you must calculate your moves...

A lazy CF won't compete with Thiery Henry every season..

A lazy CF won't win 3-4 UCL highest goal scorer and also win highest goal scorer in 3 different leagues.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 4:26pm On Nov 08, 2020
96forever:
there’s a reason why despite him scoring for fun we were not winning trophies that much, compare that to Rooney Ronaldo Tevez where we didn’t depend on a lone striker for goals.

Someone being called expert doesn’t mean he/she is good at something.. he/she can still might be expert in foolishness. cheesy



Don’t mind him. The three players upfront should be sharing the responsibilities of providing goals and assists. Thank God we have Bruno, we also need Rashford and Greenwood to give us goals, and we are good to go.

We don’t need a striker to score 80 percent of our EPL goals abeg.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 4:29pm On Nov 08, 2020
Expert17:


A lazy CF won't be in the right position

Football is brain work not garagara, you must calculate your moves...

A lazy CF won't compete with Thiery Henry every season..

A lazy CF won't win 3-4 UCL highest goal scorer and also win highest goal scorer in 3 different leagues.






Well, your definition of laziness is diff. Martial doesn’t do garagara, you guys are complaining that he is not strong and tough.

Bros, Martial is not doing well right now, but he is a very good forward player. Cest fini!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:32pm On Nov 08, 2020
I'm not even sure our attackers can play off each other. They struggle to create chances for each other and it's bad.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:34pm On Nov 08, 2020
nitrogen:


Well, your definition of laziness is diff. Martial doesn’t do garagara, you guys are complaining that he is not strong and tough.

Bros, Martial is not doing well right now, but he is a very good forward player. Cest fini!

Martial is not good with his positioning, decision-making is not good enough etc


Van nistelrooy does everything right as a CF, so you can't call him a Lazy CF. ( unless you want him to mark opponent)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 5:23pm On Nov 08, 2020
CapitalCee:


Thats very poor for a man United CF in all competitions. Van Nistelrooy for example does over 40 just in goals
That was his first season playing CF
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:26pm On Nov 08, 2020
Our women just did what the men could not do, beat Arsenal at home.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 5:31pm On Nov 08, 2020
Expert17:


Martial is not a CF, that's the message.

We need a CF that can

- compete in the air/score headers

-smell goal and position himself for goal

- out muscle defenders

Liverpool system is not static, Firminho is not rooted to CF position, there is constant interchange.

I can't remember Fergie winning the league with a CF that is not a starter for his country.
Firmino na attacking midfielder na
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:37pm On Nov 08, 2020
afrodoc2:
Our women just did what the men could not do, beat Arsenal at home.

Wow.. shocked shocked

We are challenging for the title then
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ennyjay72(m): 5:41pm On Nov 08, 2020
Expert17:


Wow.. shocked shocked

We are challenging for the title then
Chelsea is still there
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:46pm On Nov 08, 2020
ennyjay72:
Chelsea is still there

Sure.

We are leading for now tongue tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:47pm On Nov 08, 2020
Expert17:


Wow.. shocked shocked

We are challenging for the title then

We are top of the table but Chelshit has a game in hand. I don't think we have the all round quality to win the title but we should make top 3.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 5:50pm On Nov 08, 2020
Just for the record, Leicester has gotten 8 penalties already.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:55pm On Nov 08, 2020
96forever:
there’s a reason why despite him scoring for fun we were not winning trophies that much, compare that to Rooney Ronaldo Tevez where we didn’t depend on a lone striker for goals.

Someone being called expert doesn’t mean he/she is good at something.. he/she can still be expert in foolishness. cheesy


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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:10pm On Nov 08, 2020
Karleb:
Just for the record, Leicester has gotten 8 penalties already.
They've stopped counting because it's not Manchester United

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:19pm On Nov 08, 2020
afrodoc2:


You got that Fred example totally right. Fred is a liability as a DM but very reliable as a box to box midfielder.
Starting him at DM was the beginning of our problems against Assanal.
Person beat you at your backyard and you still disrespecting it’s name like that. Correct the spelling bro.

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