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Poll: Is self-service a sin?

Yes: 68% (73 votes)
No: 19% (21 votes)
I don't know: 11% (12 votes)
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Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Joagbaje(m): 7:35am On Feb 20, 2012
goshen360:

@ Joagbaje,

Honestly, I can't believe you can defend your pastor in this matter and please stop beating around the bush. Am very sure if the bible had not said fornication and adultery is a sin, you and pastor Chris would have also said it is a bad habit. The bible is the standard. If the bible doesn't condemn it , it's not a sin. Do you use your feeling to create a law for people.

[quote[You can as well say abor.tion is not a sin against God, just because the bible didn't specifically mention it and call it bad habit.

Well it depends. When you have to abort a baby to save a mothers life what do you call it?. It depends on specific cases.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 7:40am On Feb 20, 2012
Jocircumvent,
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by newmi(m): 7:44am On Feb 20, 2012
the mother or the baby's live whose is more important though the husband will most likely prefer his wife's afterall they could work at gettong another one
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Ozegbe(m): 7:47am On Feb 20, 2012
when you masturbate you think of many things like past sex, naked porn photos and video you have watch and even some perspn you might have seen and lust after. Remember jesus made it clear that you dont need to have sex with a woman to commit fornication which is a sin, just lusting after her or thinking about it you committed that crime already. So WTF is masturbation not a sin?
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Ozegbe(m): 7:49am On Feb 20, 2012
when you masturbate you think of many things like past sex, naked porn photos and video you have watch and even some perspn you might have seen and lust after. Remember jesus made it clear that you dont need to have sex with a woman to commit fornication which is a sin, just lusting after her or thinking about it you committed that crime already. So WTF is masturbation not a sin?
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Image123(m): 7:50am On Feb 20, 2012
Joagbaje:

It's a bad habit just like doing drugs. Or drinking .But it's not a Sin against God.
Jo, what makes it a bad habit? Is it the spilling or the angle of the hand?

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Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Goshen360(m): 7:50am On Feb 20, 2012
@ Jo,

I tire for you o. Seriously. We are talking about mas.tur.bation that someone did by himself and Abortion deliberately done and you are talking about abor.tion to save a mother's life. What kind of abortion is that? Every man will stand on his own in the day of judgement. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS.

I DO NOT CONDEMN PEOPLE WHO DOES MAS.TUR.BATION BUT THE ACT ITSELF IS CERTAINLY A SIN. The person that committed called to ask because he was convicted by the Holy Spirit it as a sin but your pastor says it is not a sin. Smh.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Joagbaje(m): 7:52am On Feb 20, 2012
Image123:

Jo, what makes it a bad habit? Is it the spilling or the angle of the hand?

It's the indecency. And it's a sign of dominion of the flesh. When flesh rules a person.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 7:53am On Feb 20, 2012
I love christ embassy. shows why many of their youths are sexually liberated and 4ck around!

@Pastor Joe

The often times you mas.tu.rbate, what do you think about? who do you think about now? or you just bring out your dy.ck and wah wah your fluid spills out?

Lets focus on the mechanics here.

Humans don't just Masturbate like that. They are driven by lustful emotions, pornography, sexual words, thoughts of hard rock pe.n.is, sexy shape of a woman, thoughts of having se.x with a celebrity etc. So pastor Joe tell me among the bolded which one is not a sin?
And tell me none of the bolded among other lustful reasons give way to mas.tu.rbation?  

So you saying sin doesnt beget sin?

Wow what an alarming hypocrisy for your Pastor Crisis to say it should be kept under control that means you can do it one a week right? But dont forget what drove you to mas.tur.bate, is it the spirit of God or the holy ghost? is it righteousness that drove you to mas.tur.bate?

pastor pastor, fake pastor! hypocrites! grin

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Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Goshen360(m): 7:58am On Feb 20, 2012
Ozegbe:

when you self-service you think of many things like past sex, Unclad indecency photos and video you have watch and even some perspn you might have seen and lust after. Remember jesus made it clear that you dont need to Be Intimate with a woman to commit fornication which is a sin, just lusting after her or thinking about it you committed that crime already. So WTF is self-service not a sin?

Abeg help me tell joagbaje o. I can't believe the kind of Christians Christ Embassy and their pastor is breeding. New Testament Pt 2. Lord Jesus.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 8:02am On Feb 20, 2012
Ozegbe:

when you self-service you think of many things like past sex, Unclad indecency photos and video you have watch and even some perspn you might have seen and lust after. Remember jesus made it clear that you dont need to Be Intimate with a woman to commit fornication which is a sin, just lusting after her or thinking about it you committed that crime already. So WTF is self-service not a sin?

i mas.tur.bate sometimes, i even have some intimacy gadgets. it is not a sin or unclean habit for me coz i am not bounded by doctrines.

But when you are bounded by some teachings and you are supposed to live by those teachings, then i will judge you by them. So it's kinda absurd for pastor joe and pastor crisis to say its an unclean habit and not a sin, because following from the bible they abide by, it clearly states its a sin. sin begets sin just as lustful thoughts beget mas.tur.bation, judging you from your bible. somehow you wonder where is the righteousnesses, piousness, and salvation they preach.

I think fake pastor joe agbaje just goofed on this one. a very dirty stain on ya tongue
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Joagbaje(m): 8:04am On Feb 20, 2012
goshen360:

Abeg help me tell joagbaje o. I can't believe the kind of Christians Christ Embassy and their pastor is breeding. New Testament Pt 2. Lord Jesus.

Pls stop getting personal ,manipulative or tendency to insult.  If you have a point prove it biblically. Stop calling names . Focus on topic and not on persons . It's not personal . It's a forum. Discuss topically pls. Supposing you're right. Prove it. Don't insult .

Thanks
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Goshen360(m): 8:06am On Feb 20, 2012
^^^ Just gave you bible verses.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Joagbaje(m): 8:07am On Feb 20, 2012
diluminati:

i mas.tur.bate sometimes, i even have some intimacy gadgets. it is not a sin or unclean habit for me coz i am not bounded by doctrines.

But when you are bounded by some teachings and you are supposed to live by those teachings, then i will judge you by them. So it's kinda absurd for pastor joe and pastor crisis to say its an unclean habit and not a sin, because following from the bible they abide by, it clearly states its a sin. sin begets sin just as lustful thoughts beget mas.tur.bation, judging you from your bible. somehow you wonder where is the righteousnesses, piousness, and salvation they preach.

I think fake pastor joe agbaje just goofed on this one. a very dirty stain on ya  tongue

So what is paining you is the fact that I say it's unclean habit. Well I will still tell you anyhow. IT'S UNCLEAN HABIT BABY cool
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Goshen360(m): 8:11am On Feb 20, 2012
@ Jo,
Just gave you bible verses above and you can as well see my comments from the beginning of this thread . You can as well tell me to prove abort.ion is not right because the bible didn't specifically say so. You and your pastor are spreading false teachings and it is obvious.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Ignatio(m): 8:12am On Feb 20, 2012
Pls what is unclean habit?
What is sin?
Are you telling us that unclean habits won't lead us to hell?
Don't defend this with medical reasons cos it's on different ground.
Fact is the urge to mas.tur.bate doesn't come automatically.
I fear the negative impact this video will have on some people.
Religion is truly causing a great damage to this generation that I fear for the next.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Joagbaje(m): 8:14am On Feb 20, 2012
Ozegbe:

when you self-service you think of many things like past sex, Unclad indecency photos and video you have watch and even some perspn you might have seen and lust after. Remember jesus made it clear that you dont need to Be Intimate with a woman to commit fornication which is a sin, just lusting after her or thinking about it you committed that crime already. So WTF is self-service not a sin?

These are two different things. Sef service and immoral thinking are two different things. You dont have to think thoughts to have self service. It's and urge and a release. If you think thoughts ,you c
Only chose to.

The immoral thinking can happen between husband and wives.  Are you aware. So it's not connected to self service? They different.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 8:16am On Feb 20, 2012
Joagbaje:

So what is paining you is the fact that I say it's unclean habit. Well I will still tell you anyhow. IT'S UNCLEAN HABIT BABY cool

Jocircumnavigate, that is your new moniker. always dodging the real issues. Your fellow christians are watching and waiting or you to explain why it is not a sin according to the spiritual principles you always touting all over this board.

Joagbaje:

These are two different things. Sef service and immoral thinking are two different things. [s]You dont have to think thoughts to have self service[/s]. It's and urge and a release. If you think thoughts ,you c
Only chose to.

The immoral thinking can happen between husband and wives.  Are you aware. So it's not connected to self service? They different.

Jocircumnavigate again. You have just failed sha! as a pastor, this is the best defense for your oga! fake pastor grin
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 8:17am On Feb 20, 2012
JO,

Have you ever masturbated?
How can you eject without thinking?
What if a woman rubs my deek and I ejaculate? Is that also allowed? As long as we were not thinking?

And you're a pastor?
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Joagbaje(m): 8:18am On Feb 20, 2012
goshen360:

@ Jo,
Just gave you bible verses above and you can as well see my comments from the beginning of this thread . You can as well tell me to prove abort.ion is not right because the bible didn't specifically say so. You and your pastor are spreading false teachings and it is obvious.

You're just being manipulative to get support . You have no point to prove. That's why you're taking a jab at me personally.  When you go that direction , I will stop responding to you.

2 Timothy 2:24
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 8:19am On Feb 20, 2012
Is hunger also not an urge? Can you eat without thinking?

I love when you start arguing semantics, it's your own way of saying you've lost the argument,

now use that 'annointing oil' to self-service without thinking, nonsense,

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Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by werepeLeri: 8:21am On Feb 20, 2012
Una all shut up. Always quick to rain insults on people, when in actual fact you dont know or do anything better. Hypocrites.

UNA GO INSULT ADEBOYE

INSULT KUMUYI

INSULT OYEDEPO

INSULT OKOTIE

INSULT EVERYONE U DONT AGREE WITH. HYPOCRITES.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Joagbaje(m): 8:22am On Feb 20, 2012
diluminati:

Jocircumnavigate, that is your new moniker. always dodging the real issues. Your fellow christians are watching and waiting or you to explain why it is not a sin according to the spiritual principles you always touting all over this board.
Jocircumnavigate again. You have just failed sha! as a pastor, this is the best defense for your oga! fake pastor  grin

Pls no vex for me o. you and your gadgets. Ok for you no be bad habit . Hope that makes you feel good. grin
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 8:22am On Feb 20, 2012
Joagbaje:

You're just being manipulative to get support . You have no point to prove. That's why you're taking a jab at me personally.  When you go that direction , I will stop responding to you.

2 Timothy 2:24
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,


As usual, you always have a verse to backup your crap. You forget Paul whom you quote once had an argument with Peter over his hypocrisy,
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Joagbaje(m): 8:25am On Feb 20, 2012
Mosquito

Pls prove it that its a sin against God. That's all. If you can . I want to learn
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 8:27am On Feb 20, 2012
werepeLeri:

Una all shut up. Always quick to rain insults on people, when in actual fact you dont know or do anything better. Hypocrites.

UNA GO INSULT ADEBOYE

INSULT KUMUYI

INSULT OYEDEPO

INSULT OKOTIE

INSULT EVERYONE U DONT AGREE WITH. HYPOCRITES.

Yes werediot, everyone is an hypocrite including you and pastor. Fool
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 8:28am On Feb 20, 2012
Joagbaje:


Mosquito

Pls prove it that its a sin against God. That's all. If you can . I want to learn

Just me and you now, lets decode this once and for all. Lets prove if it's a sin or not with our Q&A session. I ask, you answer. is it ok?
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 8:29am On Feb 20, 2012
Joagbaje:


Mosquito

Pls prove it that its a sin against God. That's all. If you can . I want to learn
Uncle JOe, if you say masturbation and thinking are two different things, no verse from any HOly scripture in the world will be sufficient to convince you 'masturbation' is a sin. I don't believe it's a sin like I explained earlier, but that's my view, I stated earlier my views aren't biblical. The differnce between both of us is you claim to have Biblical verses to support that. Goshen has explained why it's a sin from a Biblical point of view. I can't do better than that.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 8:31am On Feb 20, 2012
Can you ejaculate during sex without thinking?

What makes a sin a sin, the thought or the action?
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Joagbaje(m): 8:32am On Feb 20, 2012
diluminati:

Just me and you now, lets decode this once and for all. Lets prove if it's a sin or not with our Q&A session. I ask, you answer. is it ok?
No,

If you have a point prove it or teach it.  Don't ask me any question. Insultive people don't have good questions.

2 Timothy 2:23
23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by werepeLeri: 8:33am On Feb 20, 2012
diluminati:

Yes werediot, everyone is an hypocrite including you and pastor. Fool



This deranged eediot is still talking. Go Self-Service yourself and dont forget to wipe your butt hole with sand paper. Goat,
Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome- self-service Is Not A Sin. by Nobody: 8:33am On Feb 20, 2012
If you can, ignore werepeleri. No man of honour fights with a mad man.

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