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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 12:36pm On May 16, 2019
Hi all, my account relationship officer at first bank said there is nothing available in their secondary market for now,can anybody confirm the same?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Godbpraised: 12:51pm On May 16, 2019
That's not true I just booked 11.5% for 182 days GTB.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by romeoprexx: 12:59pm On May 16, 2019
11% for 119 days
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by seyi0802(m): 1:03pm On May 16, 2019
Godbpraised:
That's not true I just booked 11.5% for 182 days GTB.

Please have you been debited? My money is still intact in my account.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 3:58pm On May 16, 2019
pocohantas:


Tbills isn't "transaction" to a bank. It is an outsourced transaction, so it is a useless transaction. cheesy

If a branch isn't making profit or trying to cut cost, they won't even be interested in your FD, because it would eat deep into their books.

That said, I wasn't talking on individual base, but at a branch level. Banking is financial intermediation. If I collect 100m from someone that has too much, I can give an OD to someone that doesn't have. I collect my fees upfront, transaction is done. I am not interested in pay-in today, transfer tomorrow customers. They are important, but they are not my target in this discourse.

Is Deposit important? Yes.
Does a branch thrive on just deposits? No
That is my point.




Out of curiousity though, is it that fees on transactions initiated at a branch don't count as branch revenue but as head office revenue? or its too small when compared with the branch's interest income?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 4:21pm On May 16, 2019
pocohantas:


Tbills isn't "transaction" to a bank. It is an outsourced transaction, so it is a useless transaction. cheesy

But it generates a fee even if its N100 and maybe Account mtce fee. Its not big money but it contributes

Banking is financial intermediation. If I collect 100m from someone that has too much, I can give an OD to someone that doesn't have.

This here reiterates Bozz007's position. Not that yours is incorrect, anyway. Its just a matter of perception. His focused on source, yours focused on application.

I collect my fees upfront, transaction is done. I am not interested in pay-in today, transfer tomorrow customers. They are important, but they are not my target in this discourse.

Is Deposit important? Yes.
Does a branch thrive on just deposits? No. They thrive off what they utilise the deposits for.
That is my point.

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 5:02pm On May 16, 2019
House please why is STANBIC rate VERY LOW compare other banks in nig on T.B ?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 5:04pm On May 16, 2019
tritritri:
House please why is STANBIC rate VERY LOW compare other banks in nig on T.B ?

Which is better? and what rates did you get?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pocohantas(f): 5:05pm On May 16, 2019
olujaidi:


Out of curiousity though, is it that fees on transactions initiated at a branch don't count as branch revenue but as head office revenue? or its too small when compared with the branch's interest income?

It counts as the branch's revenue.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 5:15pm On May 16, 2019
olujaidi:


Which is better? and what rates did you get?

10% per annum ?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Jejebabaa: 5:24pm On May 16, 2019
tritritri:


10% per annum ?
Which tenor was that ?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 5:40pm On May 16, 2019
tritritri:


10% per annum ?

if it was 91 day tenor, thats the highest because it is the exact stop rate
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nnamz(m): 7:41pm On May 16, 2019
ĢTb lost all bindings
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ify2016: 8:15pm On May 16, 2019
Nnamz:
ĢTb lost all bindings
What do you mean by GTB lost all bindings?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nnamz(m): 8:32pm On May 16, 2019
ify2016:

What do you mean by GTB lost all bindings?

They emailed me
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ify2016: 8:46pm On May 16, 2019
Nnamz:

They emailed me
Gurus in the House,over to you guys.
Your helps are needed here!
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Desanta(m): 9:02pm On May 16, 2019
Nnamz:
ĢTb lost all bindings

FBN lost the 182 days bid.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DInkMan(m): 9:04pm On May 16, 2019
Today's secondary market rates at Stanbic Ibtc bank:

154 days @ 11.55%

280 days @ 11.85%

77 days @ 9.70%

Which other bank has a better rate?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Chikebrain: 9:31pm On May 16, 2019
ify2016:

What do you mean by GTB lost all bindings?

Are you sure. Was debited this evening
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nnamz(m): 9:37pm On May 16, 2019
ify2016:

Gurus in the House,over to you guys.
Your helps are needed here!
You need gurus in the house to hack my phone to confirm if indeed I'd get an email?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odionastron: 9:38pm On May 16, 2019
Hello fellow Nigerians,

I am new on this forum. Please I need advice from you all.

What is the best strategy to maximize returns on Treasury bills over a period of time?

Thanks for your helpful answers.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ify2016: 9:56pm On May 16, 2019
Nnamz:

You need gurus in the house to hack my phone to confirm if indeed I'd get an email?
Nooooo.
Just for them to explain the term you used
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nnamz(m): 12:13am On May 17, 2019
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nnamz(m): 12:14am On May 17, 2019
Chikebrain:

Are you sure. Was debited this evening
Sir were you debited with GTB?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Chikebrain: 2:00am On May 17, 2019
Nnamz:

Sir were you debited with GTB?
Yes I got a debit for Tbills
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 7:41am On May 17, 2019
Odionastron:
Hello fellow Nigerians,

I am new on this forum. Please I need advice from you all.

What is the best strategy to maximize returns on Treasury bills over a period of time?

Thanks for your helpful answers.

Compounding/reinvesting your interest via NTB or other opportunities consistently
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by phunix: 7:43am On May 17, 2019
please could someone with handy information help us with FBN state of things as regard May 16 bidding on Tbills.
Thanks.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by GonFreecss1: 9:11am On May 17, 2019
cy4cent:


I agree with you perfectly about the staffs at First bank's intentions of hindering him from investing.
My account's officer told me TBills is not a good investment, that fixed deposit is better. I couldn't believe the mail she sent me when I asked her opinion, I had to chat her up on what's app, she repeated the same thing.

I'm on this thread reading these messages to confirm if I'm being paranoid about her intentions, unfortunately I can't go to the bank myself to confirm.

Kindly sack your account officer. Lol!

Bankers will always do what is in their best interest, not what is in your best interest. Same as brokers. Be guided sir! There is no way in hell Fixed deposit will be better than Tbills, from safety to returns, you name it.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by GonFreecss1: 9:17am On May 17, 2019
pocohantas:


But tbh, deposit is nothing in the long run. It helps, but it doesn't really impact on the bank's revenue.

What banks love is risk assets or transactions that bring quick money. Like dorm transfers and all. What is deposit? Deposit is just to avoid pool borrowing and probably trade. It doesn't pay salary... grin

You can quote me on this, currently majority of Nigerian banks make money from Tbills, so FD will surely help to create more funds to do Tbills.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dipoolowoo: 9:27am On May 17, 2019
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ify2016: 10:50am On May 17, 2019
I just came back from GTB. I requested for T. bill but was told non is available for now till next two weeks. I gently went to make enquiry on F.deposit and I was told that my earnings per annum is 4.5%.
I migrated from GTB to FCMB and was told they only accept 300k and above for FD.
Because of my quest for a better offer, I requested for TB but was told that primary bill is not available while that of Secondary is. I requested for the percentage in involved on the secondary bill but was told that he need to forward a mail first with the amount i intend to bid in order to ascertain how many percent available in the market.
Now, my question is , what is the difference between primary/secondary bill, advantage and risk factors one may likely encounter in embarking on the investment.
Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by GonFreecss1: 11:21am On May 17, 2019
aremso:



i disagreed with the bolded, check the financials of the banks especially the FUGAZ, about 30-40% of their revenue were from TB and where do they get money for investment in TB if not deposits?

Thank you for this.

People won't read financial statements or get facts, they just assume a lot of things.

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