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Poll: How do you suggest we do the bible studies?

Topical Studies: 69% (38 votes)
Chapter by Chapter Studies: 25% (14 votes)
Verse by Verse Studies: 5% (3 votes)
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Poll: How do you suggest we do the bible studies?

Topical Studies: 47% (17 votes)
Chapter by Chapter Studies: 25% (9 votes)
Verse by Verse Studies: 11% (4 votes)
Book by Book Studies: 16% (6 votes)
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Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 12:30am On Mar 22, 2012
@ Zikky,

Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. God bless you. One thing I want us to decide is who do we select or agree on a topic to teach on? Everyone is going to come up with a topic bothering him or her, how do we treat everyone fairly is my concern about the topical teaching. I don't have problem doing topical at all. Am in for anything we decide. Already the poll supports topical but like you said,we might not be treating anything new but it doesn't matter,the word of God is never old,we can learn more. So how do you think we go about this issue of picking what topic to discuss? Do we make it alphabetically or we rotate the selection? If we can decide this issue, we are good to go my brother. Am not discouraged,I really want us as children of God not just to come online and do unfruitful things but to use it as opportunity to grow in God's word.

Let me hear your feedback please. Thanks
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by seyibrown(f): 1:32am On Mar 22, 2012
Waiting to decide and agree on topics will slow us down a lot, and besides there are topics upon topics all over the religious section. I still think the way to go with is the Book by Book/ Chapter by Chapter/ Verse by Verse. I only think we should not restrict ourselves to One Chapter a week as some chapters are quite short and that would mean ONLY 52 Chapters in ONE YEAR!

That said, Goshen, What does the Holy Spirit say about how to conduct the study? He must have put it in your spirit to do it in the first place!
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 2:45am On Mar 22, 2012
@ Seyibrown,

Exactly my thought. Honestly,for me, the best way to do good bible study without rushing anything is chapter by chapter of a book and explaining verse by verse. This will be done daily not weekly meaning,we are learning daily,not weekly and we will have in-depth understanding of each verse. But still, I have to carry everyone along. I can't do it alone by myself and I honestly know we will be slowed down deciding which topic to teach weekly. We need to move on pls. Let's look into this matter critically please. More advice please. Thanks
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Zikkyy(m): 8:44am On Mar 22, 2012
goshen360: @ Zikky,

Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. God bless you. One thing I want us to decide is who do we select or agree on a topic to teach on? Everyone is going to come up with a topic bothering him or her, how do we treat everyone fairly is my concern about the topical teaching. I don't have problem doing topical at all. Am in for anything we decide. Already the poll supports topical but like you said,we might not be treating anything new but it doesn't matter,the word of God is never old,we can learn more. So how do you think we go about this issue of picking what topic to discuss? Do we make it alphabetically or we rotate the selection? If we can decide this issue, we are good to go my brother. Am not discouraged,I really want us as children of God not just to come online and do unfruitful things but to use it as opportunity to grow in God's word.

Let me hear your feedback please. Thanks

My brother, i just don't envy you smiley since the idea is to have a better understanding of the bible, the book/chapter/verse approach appears to be the best choice. i was just expressing my concern/fear that you might end up doing it alone.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Knight1(m): 9:09am On Mar 22, 2012
@goshen,

I think you should decide the topic (at least the first one) IT's your prerogative as the initiator of the idea.
i firmly believe that CHapter/verse studies will NOT be very much interesting to a lot of people.
I have suggested two topics already, FORGIVENESS and HELL. i'll like to suggest a third. THE PERSON/CHARACTER OF RUTH.

This will afford us a topical, book and chapter study wink grin grin grin grin

I really think this should get on quickly before folks begin to lose interest.
cheers
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 1:54pm On Mar 22, 2012
@ Everyone,

This is what we are going to do. Please everybody to permit me for this decision please. We will start with topical studies first and see how it goes. If we always end up fighting or can't agree the word of God, then we can always switch back to book/chapter/verse studies. I agree with Zikkyy that I might end up doing book/chapter/verse alone though it's the best way to study but I want to carry everyone, i mean everyone along. So Let's start with topical study for now and let's see how it goes.

Knight1 had also suggested I take this first honour to suggest the first topic. I guess we might end up rotating the topic weekly. One topic per week from each person. Our weekly topic will always start every Monday with a new topic and end on Sundays.

Does this sound good to all of us? If this is okay. I will suggest the first topic soon so it can start by Monday for discussion.

Thank you all for your eagerness for the word of truth. God bless you all.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 5:41pm On Mar 23, 2012
I suggest we discuss "BAPTISM" from Monday. We can use our weekend to put our presentation together. Thank you all.

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Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 4:14pm On Mar 24, 2012
Topical bible study starts on Monday. Please, do some personal study on the above topic and let's come from Monday to dig into the deep things of God. Praise God.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Image123(m): 11:45pm On Mar 24, 2012
You should be specific, which baptism. Water, suffering, holy ghost, Moses?
Just helping topical folks oo,
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 12:12am On Mar 25, 2012
When we discuss baptism, we should cover everything bro. Water baptism, baptism of John, of Jesus, holy spirit etc
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Nobody: 6:47am On Mar 26, 2012
I have found you guys now smiley

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Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Nobody: 7:02am On Mar 26, 2012
Now, I need to know something. What is trinity?

From my bible study and from research, the word trinity came from a Roman Catholic teaching which teaches that there are 3 Gods in one. For a long time, I subscribed to this but from personal study, I found out that there isn't anything like trinity.

What I found out is that there is only 1 true God but has different ways in manifesting himself
Jesus said, "whosoever has seen me has seen the father" John 14:9-31. This is how it is:

Jesus- God in human form who came to die for the sins of the world.

God- God

Holy Spirit - the Spirit of God who leads us in all things right. Job 32:8

Trinity says, there are 3 Gods in 1 God. The Bible says, there is only 1 true God Isa 44:6.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Knight1(m): 8:46am On Mar 26, 2012
Baptism.

i believe you have drawn up an outline?

so that the discussion has a direction.

i.e History; purpose; benefits; etc?
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 2:02pm On Mar 26, 2012
Let the study begin. Everyone present his/her teachings and I will collate either at the end of the week or in between. Let it start brother. Thank you.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 4:09pm On Mar 26, 2012
The word, “Baptism” is a greek work translated “baptisma” which mean "to dip", "to immerse", "to dye by dipping into".

The word, “Baptisma” has been translated into a neutral and masculine noun. The neutral noun ending with the suffix –ma and the masculine noun derived from the word, “baptismos” with the suffix – os.

Hence we have, baptisma and baptismos. Baptisma indicates the result of the act of dipping while baptismos indicates the completed act. Baptisma must not be confused with baptismos. Baptisma is the act of dipping, immerse and to dye by dipping into while baptismos is the completed, a ceremonial washing that was constituents of the rites of the Old testament law. Reference to baptismos is in Heb. 9:10, Mark 7:4 KJV

Baptisma is a technical New Testament/Old Testament term. It begins with John the Baptist "in" or/and "with" water. It was later instituted by Christ to be administered by His disciples in the New testament. It is synonymous to bath, metaphorically meaning the word of God which, when we believe, brings spiritual cleansing.

Noticed I stroked New Testament above. Why? This is one of the reason we are in this bible study. The New testament DOES NOT begin with Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. It began in Acts of Apostles. Jesus is the mediator of the New testament/covenant. Not until He died, the New Testament could not start. Reference: Heb 9:15-18 KJV. So we have the audacity to call/classify Matthew to John as Old Testament.

Let's get more contribution to the definition of Baptism and we can continue. God bless you all.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by babaowo: 10:01pm On Mar 26, 2012
goshen360: When we discuss baptism, we should cover everything bro. Water baptism, baptism of John, of Jesus, holy spirit etc
...... I think this are 3 types of baptism, 1,baptism of water..2, baptism of holy spirit and 3, which is baptism of fire.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 10:07pm On Mar 26, 2012
@ babaowo,

Stay on the study. I shall collate updates as we continue to study. You have mentioned the kind of baptism you know. When we have update, I will collate and update with the ones you have mentioned. You also need to give bible verse to support your claim sir, that is why it is bible study. God bless you sir.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 5:08pm On Mar 28, 2012
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Matt 3:11 KJV

I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Mark 1:8 KJV

John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Luke 3:16 KJV



And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins; Luke 3:3 KJV.

From the above scriptures, we understand there are two kinds of Baptism namely:

Baptism of John
Baptism of the one mightier than John, Christ.

The mode or method of John's baptism is water and the mode or method of Christ's baptism is "with the Holy Ghost and with fire". Jesus also instituted the baptism (water) that will put a believer, after repentance (baptism of John) into the body of Christ. Matt 28:19.

Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Matt 28:19

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Romans 6:3

Galatians 3:27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.


BAPTISM OF JOHN (BAPTISM OF REPENTANCE)

The baptism of John by water is clearly seen as a baptism of repentance. This is before Jesus came on the scene. The use of water by John is figurative or type of the "word of God". When we hear the word of God, it convince us of our sinful life and also cleanse or wash us of our sin or sinful nature. The baptism of John by water should not be confused to baptism of Jesus by water. The "water" by John is figurative of the word of God which bring us unto repentance while the baptism of "water" in the name of Jesus is being en-grafted into the body of Christ after we have heard the word of God. See how the word of God is figuratively used as water in the scriptures:

That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, Eph 5:26 KJV. You can read other translations to see this verse clearer.

This is why someone cannot be baptized by water into the body of Christ when such person have not repented of their sin and converted by the word of God. The word of God does that work of repentance in our heart. Peter said in Acts 2:38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit".

Repentance must come first and this is what is being figuratively used by water by John the Baptist. It is a baptism of repentance. If it is not figurative, then consider this: Acts 19:1-7 KJV

And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. And all the men were about twelve.

So we see clearly that the water baptism we do today is not that of John the baptist because it is done in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Our baptism of John today by water is the word of God that brings us unto repentance, convincing us through the Holy Spirit. Our water baptism of today by immersion (see definition) is not done in the name of John but in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

You may ask, Jesus was also baptized by John. Does that mean Jesus needed repentance? No. The Jesus baptism by John is not unto repentance for Jesus but to fulfill all righteousness. Matt 3:13-15 KJV
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 3:04pm On Mar 30, 2012
All Baptism as recorded in the bible.

The Baptism of John - Repentance

The Baptism of Jesus - Anointing, begins ministry of prophet and priesthood

The Baptism of Fire - Purifying or judgment

The Baptism of Moses - Deliverance of the nation Israel

The Baptism of the Cross - The suffering of death for our sins

The Baptism of the Holy Spirit - Being saved and put in the body of Christ also for service.

The Believers Baptism - Identification with Christ by water baptism.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 3:08pm On Mar 30, 2012
The Baptism of Jesus

Jesus was baptized in the Jordan by John the Baptist, and began his ministry after he was consecrated Luke 3: 21

Acts 10:38 tells us that He was anointed with the Holy Spirit.

As a human, He was in submission to God to fulfill all righteousness and was anointed for His ministry like all priests.. He received a special anointing of the Holy Spirit for His public mission. ( Acts 10:38 ). Jesus was divinely consecrated for the work of redemption, being an eternal priest from the order of Melchizedek.

In Matt. 3:15, Jesus tells us that His baptism was 'to fulfill all righteousness." The basic action of baptism is identification, so Jesus identified with righteousness in obedience to the Mosaic Law. The Levitical Law required that all priests were to be consecrated when they began their ministry at about 30 years of age). He being a man needed, to be anointed like the prophets of old. He Identified with the believing remnant and also with sinners even though he was not one also with mankind (sinners even though he was not one) (1 Cor. 5:21; Matt.3:11 ).

Remember he was introduced as the lamb to take away the sins of the world. This was a unique baptism because it had nothing to do salvation but a submission to the will of God. He Identified himself with the preaching of the Kingdom and repentance by John the Baptizer. ( Matt. 3:1-2 )

Jesus identified with righteousness in obedience to the Mosaic Law, to fulfill all righteousness.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 3:12pm On Mar 30, 2012
The Baptism of Fire

There are two views on what the baptism of fire means: There is a judgment coming at the 2nd Coming of Christ when all nonbelievers are taken from the earth. Jesus taught several parables in reference to the end of time when believers and unbelievers will be separated Mt.25 the sheep from the goats. They will join the unbelievers from all time in hell who are waiting for the Last Judgment (The Great White Throne Judgment in Rev. 20). This occurs at the end of the Millennium when they are resurrected and put back in their bodies and put in the lake of fire. The Bible teaches that this baptism is for unbelievers in judgment.

Mt. 3:11: John speaking, "I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will thoroughly clean out his threshing floor; and gather his wheat into the barn; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

Only the Holy Spirit is for believers.

Luke 3:9 "And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire."17"His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire."

This certainly is a reference to Mt.25:41 (also Mt.3:10; Rev.14:10)

we know this means judgment because John and Jesus explain it: John answered, saying to all, "I indeed baptize you with water; but One mightier than I is coming, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to loose. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. "His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire."

Jesus said in Acts 1:5: "for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now." He never baptized anyone in fire.

Fire is often symbol for judgment throughout the Bible. Examples are the fire which burned the sacrifice on the Hebrew altar, and the fire from God which burned the watered down sacrifices of Elijah and the prophets of Baal.

Fire and brimstone fell on Sodom and Gomorrah. The world will be cleansed by fire as it was by the flood in the end of time 2 Pt.3:10.

Heb. 10:27: "but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries."

II Thess. 1:8: "In flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The believers are to go into the millennium, the unbelievers are "cast off" into fire. These parables are analogies to the baptism of fire.

The other view is a purifying affect

1 Pet 1:7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ,

1 Pet 4:12: " Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you."

1 Cor. 3:13: "Each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is." meaning our work on earth will have its test in heaven to see if it accompanies us into eternity.

The baptism of fire is more applicable to judgment than fiery trials in a believers life. (Read Matt 13:24-30 and Jesus' explanation later in Matt 13:36-40)
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 3:12pm On Mar 30, 2012
The Baptism of Moses

1 Cor. 10:2 tells us, "all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and the sea". This is a symbolism of Moses being a type of Christ. The water never touched them but they went across to dry land to the other side while the waters became a means of judgment on Pharaoh’s army that tried to overtake them.

The baptism of Moses was a double identification, the children of Israel are identified both with Moses as their deliverer and with the cloud ,Gods glory a visible representation of his presence, as they passed through the Red Sea. There was no water involved, when the waters were parted the Israelites walked on dry land, they went through the sea on dry land never getting wet. (1 Cor.10:1,2.) The Jews never got wet, but Pharaoh's’s army did ! When it says they were baptized into Moses it means in reference to Moses' leadership delivering them through the waters of judgment. When it says the cloud it was the glory of God leading Moses who led them into their journey.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 3:15pm On Mar 30, 2012
The Baptism of the Cross/death (his Cup)

Jesus Christ "drank" the Cup filled with our sins. This was an expression of all the sins of the world put into one cup and poured out on Christ while He was on the Cross. God the Father judged our sins while they were on Christ. (similar to the bowls of judgment in Rev. on mankind) The "cup" being spoken of signifies God's wrath towards sin. Christ identified with our sin and He bore our sins on the cross being was made sin for us. (2 Cor.5:21, 1 Pet. 2:24.)

Mark 10: 38 (also Matt. 20:23 ). "You don't know what you are asking," Jesus said. "Can you drink the cup I drink or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?" 39 "We can," they answered. Jesus said to them, "You will drink the cup I drink and be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with,"

We are told that we are all baptized into his death Rom.6 :3 Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life." for one to have the new life they must die in Christ first. Accepting his atonement for us personally. When we die with him we are able to walk in the new life he offers.

In Matt. 26:39, He prays to the Father to "let this cup pass from me". Nevertheless, thy will be done.. in he states John 18:11, "the cup which my Father has given me, shall I not drink from it?" The "cup" being spoken of signifies God's wrath towards sin that would be poured out on him in our place.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 3:20pm On Mar 30, 2012
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit

When a person believes accepts Christ as Savior, he is placed into the body of Christ by the Spirit and the spirit is placed in him. He is identified as a believer. 1 Cor.12:13. For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

Acts 1:5, Jesus said to them "For John truly baptized with water; but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now." Jesus is making a distinction between water and Spirit baptism, just as John did. John's water baptism always showed repentance. It looked forward to Christ whom they would receive. The Holy Spirit's work would be inward. This is the spiritual work of God to regenerate a believer and put them supernaturally in the body of Christ.vs.8 "But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you shall be witnesses to me in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and to the end of the earth." the anointing gave them the boldness to be witnesses (martyrs) wherever they went.

The baptism of the Holy Spirit is a New Testament teaching and experience. In John 7:39, Jesus, speaking of the Spirit, stated those who believe in Him would receive the Spirit when He was glorified. This event happened when He ascended to heaven and then sent the Spirit. Its first occurrence was on the day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit started the body of Christ. He came with an audible sound rushing into the upper room came upon them and filled them all, so that they were endued with power to bring the gospel. This baptism was unique in that it also exhibited a dividing of fire above each ones head. This was associated with the glory of God the shekinah in the OT. tabernacle. This happened only one time never to be repeated in the NT.

Believers are place "in Christ", in their new position they now have access to privileges and blessings that come with this relationship. Ephesians 1 describes our new position in Christ "all blessings in heavenly places in Him." We are seated in heavenly places.

The baptism of the Holy Spirit was prophesied by John the Baptist, Matt. 3:11; Luke 3:16. by Jesus Christ who said he would send him, John 14:16,17; Acts 1:5.

The baptism of the Holy Spirit is for all believers adopted into the family of God. It is how one enters the body 1 Cor. 12:13, Gal. 3:26-28. Eph. 5:18 tells us to be continually filled with the Spirit, in other words give him control of our lives, it is a daily thing.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 3:27pm On Mar 30, 2012
The Baptism for Believers

Mk.16:16 "He that believeth, and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall not be saved."

There is a question whether this is speaking of water baptism or spirit baptism . Since this is Jesus discourse before his ascension and does coincide with Mt.28 it would be logical to think, it is of water.

The believer's baptism of water identifies us to the Lord Jesus Christ and symbolizes the positional truth of his dying for us and washing away our sins. The real baptism of the Holy Spirit places a believer into Christ, water baptism is a ceremony that illustrates the fact of Spirit baptism, an invisible event which actually puts one in the body.

Christians have a real identification with Christ in his death, burial, and resurrection. Water baptism is a symbolic identification with the person and work of Christ in his death. Rom.6:4

When one goes down in the water, they are saying, "I identify with His death and burial." They are declaring the Gospel that saved them in a physical act.

It is a representative act of identification. The individual is placed in the water, which means, symbolically, that he is identified with what the water represents, which is cleansing. It is also a illustration of death being buried taken away from ones view.1 Pt 3:21 Denies emphatically that baptism conveys either the essence or power of grace. It is not the removal of the flesh (our carnal nature). Baptism saves through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

There is no mention of any blessing that is connected with baptism that is not also given when one exercises faith. It is an outward illustration of the real inward event. The new covenant is ratified by the blood of Christ, his death. Its not water. Baptism is the seal of the covenant but not the covenant itself. The veil of the temple was ripped open when he died not when he was baptized. There is no forgiveness without the blood of Christ, there is forgiveness without baptism. Water baptism always comes after salvation. It does not precede salvation. When water baptism precedes salvation it becomes a religious practice, a ritual without substance. Believer's baptism is not a religious ritual in itself, but a indicates that one has a relationship with Jesus Christ by means of salvation.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Goshen360(m): 3:32pm On Mar 30, 2012
I can see many of us are not quite serious about the bible study. Even at the topical, we seems not to contribute. If we are not going to contribute, I may have to go back to chapter by chapter/verse-by-verse study even if it will take me to do it alone while other will learn.

We have chosen topical so that everybody will contribute and we will be able to have fellowship and reasoning together. This topical is intense and calls for a lot of research and study. For me to come up with all these stuffs, it takes time and yet, many of us don't want to contribute so we can all have fellowship.

Let's share view please. I don't believe in everybody building his own apart. We are to come together and this is what the body of Christ is all about.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by ichuka(m): 4:58pm On Mar 30, 2012
Our Lord told Nicodemus,"Truly,truly,i say to you,unless one is born of water and the Spirit,he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God(John3:5).
Paul wrote to the saints in Rome,"Or are you ignorant that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?we have been buried therefore with Him through baptism into His death,in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the Glory of the Father,so also we might walk in the newness of life.for if we have grown together with Him in the likeness of His death,indeed we will also be in the likeness of His Resurrection"(Rom6:3-5).
Both our Lord Jesus and Paul spoke of the REALITY of BAPTISM.
However,some only view the aspect of baptism physically(their eyes only see water).while some tackle the subject with there mind(trying to understand spiritual things with the mind).
The baptism that our Lord mentioned to Nicodemus was a REALITY.the baptism that Paul saw was a burial with the Lord,with the result of one walking in newness of Life.
To the Colossns believers,he spoke of being"BURIED TOGETHER with HIM in BAPTISM"(Col.2:12).Paul saw that BAPTISM,BURIAL and RESURRECTION are one and the same thing.he knew what it meant to be buried with the Lord and to be raised up together with the Lord.
That is when Christ died,we(Christains) died with Him,when He Resurrected we resurrected with Him and now walk with the newness of His Ressurected Life here on earth.
The physical(water)aspect is just merely an acceptance of that which have already taken place spiritually.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by ichuka(m): 5:00pm On Mar 30, 2012
Our Lord told Nicodemus,"Truly,truly,i say to you,unless one is born of water and the Spirit,he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God(John3:5).
Paul wrote to the saints in Rome,"Or are you ignorant that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?we have been buried therefore with Him through baptism into His death,in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the Glory of the Father,so also we might walk in the newness of life.for if we have grown together with Him in the likeness of His death,indeed we will also be in the likeness of His Resurrection"(Rom6:3-5).
Both our Lord Jesus and Paul spoke of the REALITY of BAPTISM.
However,some only view the aspect of baptism physically(their eyes only see water).while some tackle the subject with there mind(trying to understand spiritual things with the mind).
The baptism that our Lord mentioned to Nicodemus was a REALITY.the baptism that Paul saw was a burial with the Lord,with the result of one walking in newness of Life.
To the Colossns believers,he spoke of being"BURIED TOGETHER with HIM in BAPTISM"(Col.2:12).Paul saw that BAPTISM,BURIAL and RESURRECTION are one and the same thing.he knew what it meant to be buried with the Lord and to be raised up together with the Lord.
That is when Christ died,we(Christains) died with Him,when He Resurrected we resurrected with Him and now walk with the newness of His Ressurected Life here on earth.
The physical(water)aspect is just merely an acceptance of that which have already taken place spiritually.
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Princiology(m): 11:39pm On Jun 24, 2019
The source of the Word is THE WORD Himself. If you need to make quick read or reference, in or from the Bible, in Bible Study, here is a list of the New Testament books, their number of chapter(s) and links.

Note: The Linked texts lead to PRINCIOLOGY.COM

1. Matthew (28 Chapters)
2. Mark (16 Chapters)
3. Luke (24 Chapters)
4. John (21 Chapters)
5. Acts of the Apostles (28 Chapters)
6. Romans (16 Chapters)
7. 1 Corinthians (16 Chapters)
8. 2 Corinthians (13 Chapters)
9. Galatians (6 Chapters)
10. Ephesians (6 Chapters)
11. Philippians (4 Chapters)
12. Colossians (4 Chapters)
13. 1 Thessalonians (5 Chapters)
14. 2 Thessalonians (3 Chapters)
15. 1 Timothy (6 Chapters)
16. 2 Timothy (4 Chapters)
17. Titus (3 Chapters)
18. Philemon (1 Chapter)
19. Hebrews (13 Chapters)
20. James (5 Chapters)
21. 1 Peter (5 Chapters)
22. 2 Peter (3 Chapters)
23. 1 John (5 Chapters)
24. 2 John (1 Chapter)
25. 3 John (1 Chapter)
26. Jude (1 Chapter)
27. Revelation (22 Chapters)
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Kobojunkie: 11:09pm On Feb 12, 2023
Goshen360:
Verse 7: Solomon begot Rehoboam, Rehoboam begot Abijah, and Abijah begot Asa.
Beginning with Rehoboam, the kingdom of David was divided (1 Kings 11:9-12; 12:1-17). Of the twelve tribes, one was kept for David's sake (1 Kings 11:13), that is, for Christ. Christ needed the kingdom that belonged to the house of David, because He had to be born as an heir to David's throne, otherwise He cannot be the Messiah.

After being divided, the kingdom of David was in two parts. The northern part was called the kingdom of Israel (a universal name) and was composed of ten tribes of Israel; the southern part was called the kingdom of Judah (a local name) and was composed of two tribes, Judah and Benjamin. Although the kingdom of Israel was more universal than that of Judah, not one of the names of the kings of Israel was included in the genealogy of Christ except for King David.
God Himself said He took the Kingdom away from Solomon. Are we to ignore God's decree against the line of Solomon? undecided
Re: Bible Study On Nairaland - The New Testament by Kobojunkie: 11:13pm On Feb 12, 2023
Goshen360:
■Strictly, Solomon was not a direct forefather of Christ. His relationship with Christ was indirect, through the marriage of Joseph, his descendant, to Mary, of whom Christ was born (v. 16). The Old Testament did not say that Christ would be Solomon's descendant, but it prophesied repeatedly that Christ would be a descendant of David (2 Sam. 7:13-14; Jer. 23:5). Although Christ was not a direct descendant of Solomon, the Old Testament prophecies concerning Christ as a descendant of David were nevertheless fulfilled.
■Uriah was a Hittite, a heathen, and his wife was Bathsheba (2 Sam. 11:3). David murdered him and took Bathsheba. Hence, she was remarried as a result of murder and adultery (2 Sam. 11:26-27). David, a man after the heart of God, did right in the eyes of the Lord all the days of his life, except for this one evil (1 Kings 15:5). This genealogy does not say "of Bathsheba" but "of her who had been the wife of Uriah," to emphasize this great sin of David's, thus showing that Christ as the kingly Savior is related not only to the heathen but also to sinners. There is something a man will do and he will be remembered for such thing in his generation and the ones to come, good or evil. Nether the less, Christ is still associated with such kind of people and such people are permitted in the family of Christ and generate Christ to the world if we will come to Christ in repentance and obedience.
1. Even after Solomon, indeed, the prophesies maintained instead that it was from the line of David that the promise came, and not from the particular line of any of his sons. undecided

2. What matters more, according to God, is that the line of interest is David, and not Solomon's. Also, in 1 Kings 11, God did declare that the Kingdom would be taken away from Solomon, so, are we to ignore God's decree against Solomon in this? undecided

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