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Re: God's Moral Law by logicboy: 7:35pm On May 31, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Oh my God! I'm a sinner! I lied to my boss and I have stolen credit card numbers God help me!!!!!! Okay visit my thread https://www.nairaland.com/952084/religious-people-really-think-that |
Re: God's Moral Law by Ptolomeus(m): 7:38pm On May 31, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Hahahaha Olaadegbu is absolutely crazy! Copy and paste the same in all the threads! Dementia senile hahahahaha Look at this! https://www.nairaland.com/934799/reasons-why-obama-not-christian/12 |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:40pm On Jun 01, 2012 |
logicboy: Do you now recognise that you have disobeyed God's commands? If so would you now like to receive Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross as payment for your sins and then submit your life to Him and receive the free gift of eternal life? logicboy: I will do so as soon as I have the opportunity to contribute. |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:50pm On Jun 01, 2012 |
No Coveting "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his a-ss, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." (Exodus 20:17) This is the broadest prohibition of the Ten Commandments, spilling over to numerous portions of the Scripture. This commandment gives us three different views of "covet" The initial commandment (Exodus 20:17) uses the Hebrew word chamad, which means "to delight in." The repeated commandment (Deuteronomy 5:21) uses the word 'avah, which translates "to wish for." And the applied commandment (Jeremiah 6:13) uses the word batsa', which is "to be greedy." There are two classic examples from which we can learn. In spite of the awesome evidence of the Rea Sea crossing, water from the rock, and the manna from heaven, Israel was not satisfied with the Lord's provision (Numbers 11:7-15). They "fell a lusting" ('avah) for the old delicacies of Egypt (Numbers 11:4-6). The Lord gave Israel its request for "meat" (Numbers 11:16-31), then sent a plague of judgment (Numbers 11:32-35) on the ungrateful nation. There is also the tragic example of Achan (Joshua 7). Achan had been warned twice (Deuteronomy 7:25; Joshua 6:18-19) not to crave the riches of Jericho. But he gave into "a delightful desire" (chamad, Joshua 7:21). Achan's sin brought judgment upon the whole nation (Joshua 7:5-15) until he was executed (Joshua 7:25-26). God does not tolerate covetousness. The Bible is clear: those that covet are never satisfied (Psalm 78:23-37) and have leanness sent to their souls (Psalm 106:13-15). May our Lord protect us from giving in to the "lust of the flesh" (1 John 2:16). HMM III For more . . . . |
Re: God's Moral Law by logicboy: 5:52pm On Jun 01, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: I was joking. Havent I told you that I am a hardcore atheist? |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:15pm On Jun 01, 2012 |
logicboy: I hope your heart hasn't fossilised yet?
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Re: God's Moral Law by logicboy: 7:09pm On Jun 01, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Do you understand the irony of the picture? Dinosaurs debunk genesis! www.nairaland.com/attachments/718264_20050516_gifae6c72593116c5cc890c75a5fafdf4bd |
Re: God's Moral Law by Ptolomeus(m): 7:16pm On Jun 01, 2012 |
Ptolomeus: [b][/b] @ Ola, I'm still waiting for the answer ... |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:24pm On Jun 02, 2012 |
Ptolomeus: There are no questions there to be answered. |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:57am On Jun 03, 2012 |
logicboy: The fossils of dinosaurs after the flood of Noah infact confirms the Bible.
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Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:34pm On Jun 04, 2012 |
Keeping The Law "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." (James 2:10) The law of God, centred in the Ten Commandments, is "holy, and just, and good" (Romans 7:12) and expresses perfectly the will of God for holy living. "The man that doeth them shall live in them." (Galatians 3:12). The problem is that no man can possibly do them all. A man may keep most of the commandments most of the time, but he will inevitably fail in some of them some of the time. Since the law is a divine unit, breaking any commandment—as our text reminds us—breaks the whole law, bringing the guilty one under God’s curse of death. "Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them" (Galatians 3:10). "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in His sight" (Romans 3:20). All men, having sinned against God’s law, are therefore lost and in urgent need of salvation. This is where God’s wonderful grace comes in. "But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, . . . Even the righteousness . . . which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe" (Romans 3:21,22), "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us" (Galatians 3:13). He kept the law for us, and bore its curse for us: Thus we are saved through trusting Him. "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid" (Romans 6:1,2). We now desire to keep His commandments, because we love Him. "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not grievous" (1 John 5:3). We are now able to keep them, because His Spirit now lives in us, and we are "strengthened with might by His Spirit in the inner man" (Ephesians 3:16). HMM For more . . . . |
Re: God's Moral Law by Ptolomeus(m): 7:31pm On Jun 04, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: You do not know the answer. You can not reply. You do not find any difference between the God of the Old Testament and New Testament ... What a shame! |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:22pm On Jun 05, 2012 |
Ptolomeus: The same Bible answers your question. "Justice and judgment are the habitation of your throne: mercy and truth shall go before your face" (Psalms 89:14). You see that the God of the NT is the same God of the OT. God is a God of Love and is also a God of Justice. If you repent, God will have mercy and forgive you and grant you eternal life but if you reject Him you are left with the most fearful display of the wrath of God on Judgment Day. |
Re: God's Moral Law by Ptolomeus(m): 10:15pm On Jun 06, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: God is a God of Love and is also a God of Justice.You read the Bible passages that I have presented in the thread? That is a god of love? That god who sends sacrificing virgins, and children? Come on! friend! you're kidding ... |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:41pm On Jun 07, 2012 |
Ptolomeus: The Bible passages you posted did not say that God promoted human sacrifice, get your facts right. God is still a God of Love and He is also a God of Justice. He is the God of Mercy and also a God of Grace. His Justice has been visited on our Lord Jesus Christ when He was crucified on the cross bearing the penalty of our sins. That is the Mercy of God to us demonstrated. We don't have to get the Judgment we deserved. |
Re: God's Moral Law by Ptolomeus(m): 5:43pm On Jun 07, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: You are still unanswered. You respond to the passages I have quoted, and show you that the biblical God did not require human sacrifices! I have presented evidence Bible, now you respond! Let's see if that god (you said it was love) actually did not feed on humans! I'm still waiting, do not avoid you. |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:50am On Jun 11, 2012 |
I believe this article puts your question in the right perspective. God-Hardened Hearts |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:27pm On Jun 13, 2012 |
The Law Of Christ "Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ." (Galatians 6:2) Although Christ has set the believer free from legalistic bondage, he is now under a still higher law—the law of Christ. It is also called "the law of the Spirit of life" which has made us "free from the law of sin and death" (Romans 8:2). The law of Christ does not consist of many detailed ordinances which we are duty bound to obey. It is a law, rather which we want to obey, out of love for Christ. "Therefore love is the fulfilling of the law" (Romans 13:10). Paul says that "the end of the commandment is charity [that is, ‘Christian love’] out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned" (1 Timothy 1:5). James calls it "the royal law," defining it simply as: "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (James 2:8 ). Instead of a law bringing us into bondage, it is "the perfect law of liberty" (James 1:25), setting us free from slavery to sin. It not only gives us the desire to please the Lord, but also the will and the ability to do so. It is not as though we are now without law and thereby free to indulge our carnal appetites. Paul explains his own new nature thus: "For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more . . . (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ)" (1 Corinthians 9:19,21). In Christ, "the righteousness of God without the law is manifested," and He is "the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth" (Romans 3:21; 10:4). But though we "have been called unto liberty," Paul commands us to "use not our liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another" (Galatians 5:13). Thus, to believe in Christ is also to obey Him. HMM For more . . . . |
Re: God's Moral Law by Ptolomeus(m): 5:41pm On Jun 13, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Dear friend Olaa: This is just part of what you yourself have written. I have not told me but it was you who wrote it. That God vengeful, murderer ... demanded the sacrifice of virgins to him that encouraged adultery ... ... does not seem the same as he did preach "love your neighbor as yourself" and "you shall not kill" ... There is a great contradiction between that god murderer, and devastating villages, with the God of the New Testament. Which one is the true god? Either one is true? Terrible contradiction ... |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:09am On Jun 14, 2012 |
Ptolomeus: You have to understand the nature of God. If you put a dried out leaf into the presence of fire would it burn it? The fire must consume the dried out leaf because of its very nature. Hebrews 12:29 describes God as a consuming fire. God's nature must consume anything that is contrary to His divine nature. This should teach us to put on the Lord Jesus Christ otherwise we would be consumed by the burning holiness of God. To answer you question as to why God commanded the Israelites to murder those people you have to understand this verse of the Scripture. [size=12pt][i]"[color=blue]Then the LORD |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:22am On Jun 14, 2012 |
Ptolomeus: You have to understand the nature of God. If you put a dried out leaf into the presence of fire would it burn it? The fire must consume the dried out leaf because of its very nature. "For our God is a consuming fire" (Hebrews 12:29) This describes God as a consuming fire. God's nature must consume anything that is contrary to His divine nature. This should teach us to put on the Lord Jesus Christ otherwise we would be consumed by the burning holiness of God. To answer you question as to why God commanded the Israelites to murder those people you have to understand this verse of the Scripture. "Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually" (Genesis 6:5). The Bible says that these people including us were not innocent for all have sinned against a holy and just God. God needs to judge sin and wickedness as you may want to know that murder is different from judgment. God used the Israelites to judge the people and remove the evil in the land. Today, God judged the sin in the world by punishing His Son on the cross. God will also judge those who do not claim Jesus Christ as their Saviour and Lord. If you don't receive Jesus' free gift of forgiveness and trust Him as the only way to heaven you are putting yourself in the presense of the consuming fire of the holy God and who can stand their own stregth? |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:49pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
It's the Law.
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Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:28am On Jun 26, 2012 |
It's the Law (Continued).
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Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:44pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
It's the Law!
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Re: God's Moral Law by Ptolomeus(m): 6:55pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
God's law is very complex. At the time the Law of God ended in the flood that wiped out all humanity (including Jews) The Hebrews were constantly defeated by the Babylonians, the Assyrians, the army of Alexander the Great, the Romans ... Against these kingdoms could not God's law? In the second world war, the treatment of Jews is not consistent with the law of God. What a story we wanted to invent? |
Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:02pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
It's the Law! (Continued).
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Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:00am On Jun 30, 2012 |
Ptolomeus: Wait and learn the whole story, it's God's story. His story.
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Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:01am On Jul 02, 2012 |
It's the Law (Conclusion).
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Re: God's Moral Law by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:09am On Aug 29, 2012 |
God's Grace August 29, 2012 "Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ" (Galatians 6:2). Although Christ has set the believer free from legalistic bondage, he is now under a still higher law--the law of Christ. It is also called "the law of the Spirit of life" which has made us "free from the law of sin and death" (Romans 8:2). The law of Christ does not consist of many detailed ordinances which we are duty bound to obey. It is a law which we want to obey out of love for Christ. "Therefore love is the fulfilling of the law" (Romans 13:10). Paul says that "the end of the commandment is charity |that is, Christian love| out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned" (1 Timothy 1:5). James calls it "the royal law," defining it simply as, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (James 2:8 ). Instead of a law bringing us into bondage, it is "the perfect law of liberty" (James 1:25), setting us free from slavery to sin. It not only gives us the desire to please the Lord, but also the will and the ability to do so. It is not as though we are now without law and thereby free to indulge our carnal appetites. Paul explains his own new nature thus: "For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more . . . (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ)" (1 Corinthians 9:19, 21). In Christ, "the righteousness of God without the law is manifested," and He is "the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth" (Romans 3:21; 10:4). But though we "have been called unto liberty," Paul commands us to "use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another" (Galatians 5:13). Thus, to believe in Christ is also to obey Him. HMM For more . . . . |
Re: God's Moral Law by oiseworld: 12:58pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
wait ooh, has ghosen360 backslided.? Or what am i seeing? |
Re: God's Moral Law by Goshen360(m): 2:54pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
oiseworld: wait ooh, has ghosen360 backslided.? Or what am i seeing? |
Re: God's Moral Law by Nobody: 3:12pm On Aug 29, 2012 |
4. Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy Not really. There is no commandment to be in church on Sunday, the bible simply says we should fellowship together which could be 2-3 days a week or even more. In many cases this fellowship was in peoples homes. Also the Sabbath day is Saturday not Sunday, so the SDAs are correct "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day." - Colossians 2:16 It was the Pharisees that always accused Christ of doing things that should not be done on the Sabbath day, here is Jesus's reply : "When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, "Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.........For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath." - Matthew 12:2-8 |
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