timbros:


And what makes you think I remotely care what you think about my intelligence?

Mr Intelligent. Tell me why you will wish for the club you claim to support to lose 5 full months after your supposed mission is actualised.

Why will you come here to tell us you only wanted Chelsea to lose because you want Lampard sacked, while evidence proves that you wanted Chelsea to lose months after Lampard have been sacked?

No be access to data and Internet, and finding ourselves in the same cyber space go make you fit type that bolded. I for like to see you tell me for my face say I be rubbish.

francisgodstime:
But that comment on how u say u wouldn't mind if Chelsea lose d final who did u want to go? Lampard

Havertz10:
you aren't in sync with events, let me help you


I had a separate conversation with donstan, he was hyping mount and I said that I wouldn't mind if we lose and I was only being pragmatic, there was a possibility that we could lose, I simply said that I will find positives in a loss, how is that bad?


OJURONGBE1 and I have had many clashes here over our stances on issues, he is someone that knows most of the things that I have said, when he called me out, I responded to him because I knew that he was talking based on the things I have said in the past, if you noticed he mentioned losses he was talking in general, I reinterated my stance on past events and why I wanted us to lose games under Lampard

Tomboy came like you are doing now, and tried to twist my statements and the narrative behind them

Havertz10:
you aren't in sync with events, let me help you


I had a separate conversation with donstan, he was hyping mount and I said that I wouldn't mind if we lose and I was only being pragmatic, there was a possibility that we could lose, I simply said that I will find positives in a loss, how is that bad?


OJURONGBE1 and I have had many clashes here over our stances on issues, he is someone that knows most of the things that I have said, when he called me out, I responded to him because I knew that he was talking based on the things I have said in the past, if you noticed he mentioned losses he was talking in general, I reinterated my stance on past events and why I wanted us to lose games under Lampard

Tomboy came like you are doing now, and tried to twist my statements and the narrative behind them

Havertz10:
is mount ineista? Does mount have positional awareness? Does he move into space, when you watch mount play, does he make any movement that you see and say wow this guy knows how to read the game?

Ineista can be excused because he is special, mount isn't

There are players that play in the shadow, without the ball and when they get the ball, they already know what to do with it before their opponents can do anything

Those players are special because they are always thinking ahead of everybody on the pitch

People that read space, know when to make a run and how to take defenders for a ride, mount is only useful on the ball hence my insistence that he should be judged based on his productive output and besides havertz has both, goals and spacial awareness, how can we undermine havertz for mount?

Havertz numbers are similar to mount with less games, I can count a few games that we won because of havertz, how many can we say that mount won? How many goals did mount score that took anybody breath away? I love brilliant footballers not passion merchants that scam gullible viewers with aimless efforts


Havertz was sold with clauses that his former club knew that they will get, and guess what? Champions league win was one, havertz officially cost us more than 71m, you need to update your flop tag figure

Jodera:
Even most optimistic Chelsea fan know that there's a possibility to lose,since Chelsea is playing man city not Norwich in the finals. So I don't know how you're being pragmatic here.
Also, no matter how, no Chelsea fan would "not mind losing CL final" , the biggest trophy in europe, all in the name of pragmatism.
And that's the main reason most people are using that against you.

And going through that convo, the reason you said it, is because of Mount, cos you feel fans will over hype mount if Chelsea eventually wins it. All these stories you're saying to turn amala no just gel.

timbros:


The boy na case.

Him say him dey look big picture. Somebody like him will bomb kidnappers together with two or three of their victims because thousands of other people are at risk of being kidnapped. Forgetting that every life matters.

OK. Lets assume that your planned have worked. Lampard have lost games and sacked. Fast forward May 18th, few days to the clubs most important game of the season. Infact the most important game since 9 years.... And you are still wishing them to lose "because of people like una".... Who does that? What kind of person is Havertz10?

Lampard have been sacked full 5 months ago and you are still wishing Chelsea to lose.... As in, which kind madness be that?

Havertz10:
I said that yesterday, it was the 2nd paragraph

I said that I knew that it would be used to validate mount as a talent

Chelsea could lose the game, I simply found solice with either outcome that was beneficial to me

Have you been to Twitter recently? Any little argument mount is better than any player because he won the champions league

donstan18:

This isn’t my point. My point is that you are always selective with your points, you don’t have an established reason why you hate Mount, you hate him today because of no open play assist, you’ll still hate him tomorrow when he drops one and tag it aided assist, you hate him today because he doesn’t score, you’ll still hate him tomorrow and call his goal tapin.

Always looking for a reason to hate Mount, to the extent of wishing Chelsea to lose Ucl against ManCity because Mount won Chelsea’s best player. You prefer Mount’s failure than Chelsea’s success.

All the things you’ve slandered Mount for, you’ve hyped Fraudvertz with the same.

Mount is far better than Fraudvertz, he’s more useful than him, if he’s not performing well attacking wise in a match, he’ll be atleast pertaking in some defensive duties and not be a liability to other players.

If Fraudvertz isn’t performing well in that attack, he’s either strolling, not marking players or sluggishly getting dispossessed.

No manager in Epl will choose Fraudvertz over Mount. Impossible!!

This is Fraudvertz in his first match for Chelsea.....

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Havertz10:
I said that yesterday, it was the 2nd paragraph

I said that I knew that it would be used to validate mount as a talent

Chelsea could lose the game, I simply found solice with either outcome that was beneficial to me

Have you been to Twitter recently? Any little argument mount is better than any player because he won the champions league

Havertz10:
my opinions about mount aren't just mine

Go to any Twitter page promoting mount and read the comments, half of chelsea supporters are all saying the same thing, he is an attacker, his attacking stats should be the priority not defensive stats

donstan18:

There are some games an attacker will play and not perform. It’s normal for all attackers.

When Mount isn’t performing in that attack, he’ll never be useless to the team. That’s where his defensive duties comes into play.

When Harvertz isn’t performing well in that attack, he becomes useless, turns to a burden and liability to other players because he’s very lazy and slow.

You get the point now?

izzou:
Anytime I log on Nairaland and see this thread with and extra 3 pages, I know that Donstan and Harvetz must be involved.

Make Una rest na

Havertz10:
when does mount perform

Mention a game over the last 2 years that mount presence in the team was the deciding factor

swiz123:
Henderson completed the most passes for England against Ukraine (43).... He came on in the 56th minutes.

Pass completion is a coefficient of how well a player shows up to receive the ball -- a necessary quality of a DM. England has one valued at 100M yet couldn't control mildfield properly against a very weak opposition.

swiz123:
Henderson completed the most passes for England against Ukraine (43).... He came on in the 56th minutes.

Pass completion is a coefficient of how well a player shows up to receive the ball -- a necessary quality of a DM. England has one valued at 100M yet couldn't control mildfield properly against a very weak opposition.

Ibime:


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Havertz10:
I said that yesterday, it was the 2nd paragraph

I said that I knew that it would be used to validate mount as a talent

Chelsea could lose the game, I simply found solice with either outcome that was beneficial to me

Have you been to Twitter recently? Any little argument mount is better than any player because he won the champions league

Jodera:
Not just lose, but Lose the biggest European finals in years?
What kinda fans does that?

Him say na "people like una"..

So him wan rub the loss for una face if Chelsea eventually lost?

User09:
Rice positional play isnt that good.

I actually took my time to watch the guy diligently all through this tournament. Although he's got very good interception qualities, He's also quite sloppy in possession and has got poor recoveries; with that Phillips guy in the middle, This is even more evident.

The most disappointing part for me is for people who criticise Jorginho citing his speed. Declan Rice Speed is really average. There is no way in hell that guy recovers with pace from a speedy attacker.

He gives a lot of long balls too, but nothing special. He's also quite physically imposing. Generally speaking, this guy isnt an upgrade on any of our current midfielders. For 35milli, I would get him as he offers us a lot of flexibility, but he's not the wondershow some have pegged him to be if you look beyond the English hype. Based on what I have seen so far, Monaco's Tchouameni is the better player for me.

nihilistjnr:


Rice with 91% pass completion and that highest average passes per game in the whole England front 6 is sloppy in possession?

Only Mason Mount makes more tackles per game than Rice, and only Mings makes more interceptions, so how is his recovery poor?

Mehn the stats just showed that your judgement is actually very questionable.

Man said sloppy in possession for a 91% pass accuracy player.

Na wa o

User09:


We are saying two different things. I'm more about the unsystematic

User09:


Ease off on the need to criticize without fully understanding. I'm getting really tired of this whole contentious nonsense. Can I at least state my views?

nihilistjnr:


What does dictionary have to do with football?

Rice has 91% pass completion, and averages 46 passes a game. He is disposessed 0.4 times a match, which essentially means that he is disposessed once in 3 games.

Don't bring dictionary here, explain in football terms how such a player is sloppy in possession.

User09:


Again we are saying different things. Read my post again.

What you speak of has no correlation with my post. My first paragraph clearly sets the context. I'm not gonna go on an unnecessary wrangle with you

Griffon:
Ibime how well do you follow Norwich?

Do they have what it takes to support Gilmour's development?