Ibime:


Debruyne had already won Bundesliga YPOTY before coming to Chelsea. Debruyne did not play at Chelsea so couldn't shine. That was all politics. Chelsea bought 6 AMS for £20m+, plus DeBruyne so JM used politics to keep him out.

what an excuse. Lol.

I can agree that Hazard is not yet on the same level as the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Robben but he's on the same level as the likes of Bale, Neymar, Reus, Ozil, KDB etc.

And yes, he's actually capable of pulling an under performing team to a title, maybe not as consistent but if people could go back to that Chelsea's 2014/2015 title campaign, he was the only player that was still awake in that Chelsea team after Nov, consistently dragging the team to several wins. He's done same for Lille too.

As a matter of fact, I've hardly seen Neymar put up those shows in an under-performing negative team like Hazard did in Chelsea title triumph, I mean after Nov when Mourinho's team became more negative and pragmatic in their play and the likes of Fab, Costa, Matic zoned off as well.
But instead of Mourinho to address what had gone wrong in the winter period when his team zoned off in the previous season, he continued to expect same show from Hazard to continue to dig out the team regardless of their continuous negative performance in the next season. Even Mourinho attested to the fact that he was negative during his time at Chelsea and promised more attacking display at United.

The question now is how many times has Neymar played under a negative coach? Even Pedro had great numbers and won many titles while playing the same Neymar's role for an attacking Barca team that has worldclass players such as Suarez, Iniesta, Messi. Hazard never had the luxury of that. If Pedro could look good in a Barca's attacking team with its wealth of talents, why won't Neymar look good as well in such attacking team?

Another fact is Hazard is a SS, that's his best position and the position he played at Lille. Hence, if you want to deploy him on the wing, you would have to deploy him as a wing forward with the license to roam, the same role Neymar enjoys at Barca buts sadly under Mourinho, he was used as a winger or at times, as a wide midfielder with the burden of consistently tracking back and starting his move from a defensive position and it's no surprise his attacking play often got stifled as a result. He also plays the same role for the Belgium sides except at the euros when he got deployed in the middle while KDB was switched to the wing after a poor start.

It's no coincidence he looked different for Belgium at the euros compared to how he used to perform for them prior to his move to the middle and everyone who watched the Belgium team at the euro would know Hazard was Belgium's best player at the euro. Unfortunately, the likes of KDB, Lukaku weren't on the same wavelength and were in poor form, especially KDB who looked awful at the euros. Some talked about Bale at the euro but should I remind these people that Bale wasn't even Wale's best player at the euro? Ramsey was. The likes of Ramsey, Allen, Williams and even their striker all put in great shifts to support Bale at the euro. That's to tell you a player don't make a team!

As a matter of fact, if I could take one player from that Chelsea team, that would be Hazard, erm... Kante as well.

Diademk07:
I can agree that Hazard is not yet on the same level as the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Robben but he's on the same level as the likes of Bale, Neymar, Reus, Ozil, KDB etc.

And yes, he's actually capable of pulling an under performing team to a title, maybe not as consistent but if people could go back to that Chelsea's 2014/2015 title campaign, he was the only player that was still awake in that Chelsea team after Nov, consistently dragging the team to several wins. He's done same for Lille too.

As a matter of fact, I've hardly seen Neymar put up those shows in an under-performing negative team like Hazard did in Chelsea title triumph, I mean after Nov when Mourinho's team became more negative and pragmatic in their play and the likes of Fab, Costa, Matic zoned off as well.

But instead of Mourinho to address what had gone wrong in the winter period when his team zoned off in the previous season, he continued to expect same show from Hazard to continue to dig out the team in every negative performance in the next season. Even Mourinho attested to the fact that he was negative during his time at Chelsea and promised more attacking play at United.

The question now is how many times has Neymar played under a negative coach? Even Pedro had great numbers and won many titles while playing the same Neymar's role for an attacking Barca team that has worldclass players such as Suarez, Iniesta, Messi. Hazard never had the luxury of that. If Pedro could look good in Barca's attacking team with its wealth of talents, why won't Neymar look good in such team?

Another thing is Hazard is a SS, that's his best position and the position he played at Lille. Hence, even if you want to deploy him on the wing, you would have to deploy him as a wing forward with the license to roam, the same role Neymar enjoys at Barca buts sadly under Mourinho, he was used as a winger or at times, as a wide midfielder with the burden of consistently tracking back and starting his move from a defensive position and it's no surprise his attacking display got stifled as a result. He also plays the same role for the Belgium sides except at the euros when he got deployed in the middle while KDB was switched to the wing after a poor start.

And its no coincidence he looked different for Belgium at the euros compared to how he used to perform for them prior to his move to the middle and everyone who watched the Belgium team at the euro would know Hazard was Belgium's best player at the euro. Unfortunately, the likes of KDB, Lukaku weren't on the same wavelength and were in poor form, especially KDB who looked awful at the euros.

Some talked about Bale at the euro but should I remind you that Bale wasn't even Wale's best player at the euro? Ramsey was. The likes of Ramsey, Allen, Williams and even their striker all put in great shifts to support Bale at the euro. That's to tell you a player don't make a team!

As a matter of fact, if I could take one player from that Chelsea team, that would be Hazard, erm... Kante as well.

Tell them bro.
Sentimental buffoons everywhere.

Bimffo:

Then I am waiting. At least you go give me share?.

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Leave wetin? Dont lemme vex for you o.



Ok . Just like hillary, we need aggressive campaign for bros ibime to turn up . His wifi has been switched off since

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diademk07

Neymar played under Dunga a coach even more defensive than Mourinho and with a squad more useless than Belgium yet he shone

At the confed cup he carried a very useless Brazialian team where Fred was the striker or Jo or Hulk
He was carrying the team on his shoulder at the world cup until he was injured

In the Olympics same way he caried the team to the Gold medal

Tell me if Hazard has ever played with attackers as useless as Jo, Fred, Oscar Hulk Paulinho and expected to deliver result

raumdeuter:
diademk07

Neymar played under Dunga a coach even more defensive than Mourinho and with a squad more useless than Belgium yet he shone

At the confed cup he carried a very useless Brazialian team where Fred was the striker or Jo or Hulk
He was carrying the team on his shoulder at the world cup until he was injured

In the Olympics same way he caried the team to the Gold medal

Tell me if Hazard has ever played with attackers as useless as Jo, Fred, Oscar Hulk Paulinho and expected to deliver result

all these biased sentimental rants are uncalled for....if hazard is brought to ur team, u will be d most happy football enthusiast... abeg Leave matter for Mathias jare

macjireh:

all these biased sentimental rants are uncalled for....if hazard is brought to ur team, u will be d most happy football enthusiast... abeg Leave matter for Mathias jare

You posted a response and no single fact disputing aything. If my team buy Hazard I will be glad to have an option to Coman and Douglas Costa that is certain

raumdeuter:
diademk07

Neymar played under Dunga a coach even more defensive than Mourinho and with a squad more useless than Belgium yet he shone

At the confed cup he carried a very useless Brazialian team where Fred was the striker or Jo or Hulk
He was carrying the team on his shoulder at the world cup until he was injured

In the Olympics same way he caried the team to the Gold medal

Tell me if Hazard has ever played with attackers as useless as Jo, Fred, Oscar Hulk Paulinho and expected to deliver result

Spot on


Am just happy that hazard is now been used in an attacking LWF according to hensben so lets see after 7-8 matches weda he will be consistent not ranting like mad dog's after 1 good game

A40:

Ramires had his strengths, Mikel was at best a squad player. The idea that Hazard was held back by these guys is total baloney and I'm wondering why you are bringing them up at this juncture. They weren't the key players behind Hazard in his magnum opus season so it is rather dubious of you to mention them. Hazard's inability to shine is not a construct of Mikel and Ramires. Find another excuse

No one has claimed Özil or Sanchez were duds but the stats you uploaded further buttress my point. They produced but their production was deemed insufficient and they were subsequently shipped out! Their replacements have since gone on to do better. Facts

Now if the unproductive Willian can outshine Hazard tell me what would be his fate at Madrid or Barca? Its not bad enough that he was outshined, its how little Willian needed to do to achieve this. You should be very ashamed for even trying to defend that. What does a player that can get outplayed by goddamn Willian want to go and do at Barca or Madrid?

You ninjas are just full of excuses. Its not today sha. When I and others told you Torres was past it you people conjured all kinds of excuses shekpe keeping, lack of MAZACAR and chose to blame everybody but the player involved

You played negative vs Atleti? Whose fault? Look at their squad and look at yours? If a team perceived to be better than the Champions of Europe are playing negative vs Gabi, Juan Fran and co then C'est dommage

Let me add that I am merely stating the prevalent opinion that has been held in the past and what I am seeing right now. What I attribute to you I state explicitly so I don't quite get the rationale of your last sentence

You only see what you want to see. I have maintained in my last three posts, a combination of several factors. Then you take just the Mikel and Ramires factor, and decided to concentrate on that. Never mind other points.


I see you have (and rightfully so) distanced yourself from that last statement. Good players don't guarantee anything. That's just complete rubbish!

Now we are talking about Ramires' strengths. The opinion we normally fall back to when we are talking about a complete dud. Why don't you ask Bayern to go after those strengths?

If you think the difference between the combination of Mikel, Ramires, defensive football, negative tctics, attacking outlet relying solely on Hazard, Azipili at left back, Mr Mourinho and now Alonso, Kante, Matic, positive football, method of attack, Hazard not having to defend and Mr Conte is not crucial to Hazard's performance this season so far, then you and I have nothing to discuss and we better end it now.

I mean you are emotionally invested in the anti-Hazard brigade, you cannot see that Chelsea, as a whole, had an off season because of some single dude, and not necessarily that Hazard failed to produce. Some much, you claim Willian only had to do little to be better than him?

But where's the little Willian is doing now, in a team and system that seems perfectly made for Hazard to shine? In fact, Hazard has already doubled Willian's tally for the whole of last season in only a third of the season.

But let's leave facts alone. Common sense must not be allowed to get in the way of obscene declarations. Chelsea did not have a bad season with all players under-performing because of a toxic manager, it was all Hazard's inability to perform. Let's drive the anti-brigade train to an easy conclusion.

Complete confusion. So much, that you are making an argument and somehow completely oblivious to the fact that the present Hazard is already proving everything you are saying wrong.

You think the introduction of Kante has not allowed Hazard to go out in front and be superb? Play one-twos with Costa and blow away weak teams?

Heck even Pedro and Costa are looking like new beasts on the back of a new system. Playing out of their skins, passing with their eyes closed and remaining a constant threat at goal. But somehow, Hazard is excluded from the benefits of introducing a complete midfielder in Kante. We are not allowed to make this case for Hazard. Even though we can see with our eyes how transformed he had been in a short while.

Instead, WE, are making excuses and Hazard must be judged by a different sets of rules.

In fact, according to you, it doesn't matter that Kante is there. Let's just stick Winston Borgarde there. Good players don't guarantee jack. Complete midfielders don't help.

Confusion specialists! It's 2016 abeg. I am not doing this yeye arguments.

raumdeuter:
diademk07

Neymar played under Dunga a coach even more defensive than Mourinho and with a squad more useless than Belgium yet he shone

At the confed cup he carried a very useless Brazialian team where Fred was the striker or Jo or Hulk
He was carrying the team on his shoulder at the world cup until he was injured

In the Olympics same way he caried the team to the Gold medal

Tell me if Hazard has ever played with attackers as useless as Jo, Fred, Oscar Hulk Paulinho and expected to deliver result

One thing you keep forgetting is the fact that Neymar plays a role that allows him to roam with no burden unlike Hazard.

At the Olympics, he had the 2 gabriels' with him and that team is by no means a negative team. At the Confed, he had a much more mobile players around him and they all put in great shift. I could recall that both Gustavo and Paulinho looking good in the midfield and put in lovely shifts. Marcelo was also one beast in the LB role and his attacking play consistently freed up Neymar to do his thing. The only players that looked average were Fred and Hulk.

That's different from the sluggish Matic, mikel, Fabregas who all looked lethargic and awful in midfield last season or a LB that can't even contribute to the attacking play of his team. Don't forget that Chelsea team still looked awful this season until Kante was freed up to add some energy and intensity in the midfield.

raumdeuter:
diademk07

Neymar played under Dunga a coach even more defensive than Mourinho and with a squad more useless than Belgium yet he shone

At the confed cup he carried a very useless Brazialian team where Fred was the striker or Jo or Hulk
He was carrying the team on his shoulder at the world cup until he was injured

In the Olympics same way he caried the team to the Gold medal

Tell me if Hazard has ever played with attackers as useless as Jo, Fred, Oscar Hulk Paulinho and expected to deliver result

I don't know if these guys think they are arguing with children at times. Just wait they would tell you its international football and omit the crux of the point

Diademk07:
I can agree that Hazard is not yet on the same level as the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Robben but he's on the same level as the likes of Bale, Neymar, Reus, Ozil, KDB etc.

And yes, he's actually capable of pulling an under performing team to a title, maybe not as consistent but if people could go back to that Chelsea's 2014/2015 title campaign, he was the only player that was still awake in that Chelsea team after Nov, consistently dragging the team to several wins. He's done same for Lille too.

As a matter of fact, I've hardly seen Neymar put up those shows in an under-performing negative team like Hazard did in Chelsea title triumph, I mean after Nov when Mourinho's team became more negative and pragmatic in their play and the likes of Fab, Costa, Matic zoned off as well.
But instead of Mourinho to address what had gone wrong in the winter period when his team zoned off in the previous season, he continued to expect same show from Hazard to continue to dig out the team regardless of their continuous negative performance in the next season. Even Mourinho attested to the fact that he was negative during his time at Chelsea and promised more attacking display at United.

The question now is how many times has Neymar played under a negative coach? Even Pedro had great numbers and won many titles while playing the same Neymar's role for an attacking Barca team that has worldclass players such as Suarez, Iniesta, Messi. Hazard never had the luxury of that. If Pedro could look good in a Barca's attacking team with its wealth of talents, why won't Neymar look good as well in such attacking team?

Another fact is Hazard is a SS, that's his best position and the position he played at Lille. Hence, if you want to deploy him on the wing, you would have to deploy him as a wing forward with the license to roam, the same role Neymar enjoys at Barca buts sadly under Mourinho, he was used as a winger or at times, as a wide midfielder with the burden of consistently tracking back and starting his move from a defensive position and it's no surprise his attacking play often got stifled as a result. He also plays the same role for the Belgium sides except at the euros when he got deployed in the middle while KDB was switched to the wing after a poor start.

It's no coincidence he looked different for Belgium at the euros compared to how he used to perform for them prior to his move to the middle and everyone who watched the Belgium team at the euro would know Hazard was Belgium's best player at the euro. Unfortunately, the likes of KDB, Lukaku weren't on the same wavelength and were in poor form, especially KDB who looked awful at the euros. Some talked about Bale at the euro but should I remind these people that Bale wasn't even Wale's best player at the euro? Ramsey was. The likes of Ramsey, Allen, Williams and even their striker all put in great shifts to support Bale at the euro. That's to tell you a player don't make a team!

As a matter of fact, if I could take one player from that Chelsea team, that would be Hazard, erm... Kante as well.

your head dey there.

Diademk07:


One thing you keep forgetting is the fact that Neymar plays a role that allows him to roam with no burden unlike Hazard.

At the Olympics, he had the 2 gabriels' with him and that team is by no means a negative team. At the Confed, he had a much more mobile players around him and they all put in great shift. I could recall that both Gustavo and Paulinho looking good in the midfield and put in lovely shifts. Marcelo was also one beast in the LB role and his attacking play consistently freed up Neymar to do his thing. The only players that looked average were Fred and Hulk.

That's different from sluggish Matic, Fabregas who both lethargic and awful in midfield or a LB that can't even contribute to the attacking play of his team.
Don't forget that Chelsea team still looked awful this season until Kante was freed up to add some energy and intensity in the midfield.

Hazard roams around as much as he want for Belgium only that he is very ineffective, A lot of his NT goals are Penalties

How was the Brazlian confed team mobile ? The same Oscar that Hazard fans claim is poor and dulling Hazard, is what Neymar is putting up with in Brazil for the Cinfed and world cup add a Fred and Hulk to it

So out of 4 attacking players i Brazil 3 are useless (Oscar Fred Hulk) yet Neymar didnt fail to deliver. The man at his age is on the way to becoming Brazil highest goal scorer ever Is that the same man you are comparing to a local champion like Hidden Hazard?

You are saying Matic and Fabregas are useless, will you take Gustavo + Paulinho over them? or is it Renato Agusto you would take over them?

Those are the dross Neymar has to deal with in Brazil yet has won a Confed, Olympics and took them to the world cup semi until injury struck

You all keep saying Barca helped Neymar, Before he got to Barca he was already a great player in South America winning Santos copa libetadores or was it Messi and Suarez that made him win for Santos too?

Neymar CL quarter semi and final scored to help his team to the treble and this is the man you dare compare to Hidden hazard who has 2 goals all his career from CL open play

The day Hazard plays in an attack with players of the caliber of Jo, fred, Oscar, Hulk and manage to make a semi is the day I will agree he is a tier 2 player.

@ airmark, Chelseafan1 and hensben, e don reach to share money now una don forget say i be hazard fanboy too.

When a man United fan places Robben above Neymar, just to overrate Hazard, you know he's a biased fellow.

Robben is one of the main reasons Holland lost the world cup final. Who remembers that one on one situation he wasted against Casillas?

I'm yet to see Neymar flop for Brazil when the ovation is loudest. I remember confederations cup final against Spain. I also remember Olympics final.

However, both Robben and Neymar have delivered UCL trophy for their respective clubs by their overall play especially scoring the decisive goal in the final match.

Until Hazard does what these two have done for club and country, he is NOT in the same level with them.

Greatihex:
please, is the ligue 1 not a top league?

NO, it is not a top league because the argument would favour Hazard.

raumdeuter:


Hazard roams around as much as he want for Belgium only that he is very ineffective, most of his NT goals are Penalties

How was the Brazlian confed team mobile ? The same Oscar that Hazard fans claim is poor, is what Neymar is putting up with in Brazil for the Cinfed and world cup add a Fred and Hulk to it

So out of 4 attacking players i Brazil 5 are useless (Oscar Fred Hulk) yet Neymar didnt fail to deliver. The man at his age is on the way to becoming Brazil highest goal scorer ever Is that the same man you are comparing to a local champion like Hidden Hazard?

You are saying Matic and Fabregas are useless, will you take Gustavo + Paulinho over them? or is it Renato Agusto you would take over them?

Those are the dross Neymar has to deal with in Brazil yet has won a Confed, Olympics and took them to the world cup semi until injury struck

Yes, I would. As a matter of fact, Gustavo was the best central midfielder at the confed cup. He dominated the Spanish team as well as put Iniesta in his pocket. We know for a fact that Fabregas is better in the attacking midfield than in the central midfield because he's one useless sluggish toad when he's not creating..

Paulinho may not be as good as Matic but he's capable of putting in good shifts that are almost as good as that of Matic and he adds the intensity and energy needed more than Matic in the midfield. Also, Oscar looked good at the confed cup. He consistently dropped deep to build the Brazilian's attack with Neymar being at the receiving end of such attack. Him, Marcelo and Neymar were often in tandem. I know for a fact that I would take both Paulinho and Gustavo over Fellaini and Witsel, even Oscar over the awful performance of KDB at the euros.

That said, Hazard hardly plays a roaming role for the Belgium team, that role is reserved for KDB. Don't you find it strange that he suddenly looked good for the Belgium side at the Euros as soon as he was switched to the middle? For me, he was the best attacking player at the Euros and yes, he was better than Greissman because Hazard overall performance was better!

Diademk07:
I can agree that Hazard is not yet on the same level as the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Robben but he's on the same level as the likes of Bale, Neymar, Reus, Ozil, KDB etc.

And yes, he's actually capable of pulling an under performing team to a title, maybe not as consistent but if people could go back to that Chelsea's 2014/2015 title campaign, he was the only player that was still awake in that Chelsea team after Nov, consistently dragging the team to several wins. He's done same for Lille too.

As a matter of fact, I've hardly seen Neymar put up those shows in an under-performing negative team like Hazard did in Chelsea title triumph, I mean after Nov when Mourinho's team became more negative and pragmatic in their play and the likes of Fab, Costa, Matic zoned off as well.
But instead of Mourinho to address what had gone wrong in the winter period when his team zoned off in the previous season, he continued to expect same show from Hazard to continue to dig out the team regardless of their continuous negative performance in the next season. Even Mourinho attested to the fact that he was negative during his time at Chelsea and promised more attacking display at United.

The question now is how many times has Neymar played under a negative coach? Even Pedro had great numbers and won many titles while playing the same Neymar's role for an attacking Barca team that has worldclass players such as Suarez, Iniesta, Messi. Hazard never had the luxury of that. If Pedro could look good in a Barca's attacking team with its wealth of talents, why won't Neymar look good as well in such attacking team?

Another fact is Hazard is a SS, that's his best position and the position he played at Lille. Hence, if you want to deploy him on the wing, you would have to deploy him as a wing forward with the license to roam, the same role Neymar enjoys at Barca buts sadly under Mourinho, he was used as a winger or at times, as a wide midfielder with the burden of consistently tracking back and starting his move from a defensive position and it's no surprise his attacking play often got stifled as a result. He also plays the same role for the Belgium sides except at the euros when he got deployed in the middle while KDB was switched to the wing after a poor start.

It's no coincidence he looked different for Belgium at the euros compared to how he used to perform for them prior to his move to the middle and everyone who watched the Belgium team at the euro would know Hazard was Belgium's best player at the euro. Unfortunately, the likes of KDB, Lukaku weren't on the same wavelength and were in poor form, especially KDB who looked awful at the euros. Some talked about Bale at the euro but should I remind these people that Bale wasn't even Wale's best player at the euro? Ramsey was. The likes of Ramsey, Allen, Williams and even their striker all put in great shifts to support Bale at the euro. That's to tell you a player don't make a team!

As a matter of fact, if I could take one player from that Chelsea team, that would be Hazard, erm... Kante as well.

This is a very sensible Man Utd fan

all i wanna know is whether airmark has been paid

nateevs:


You only see what you want to see. I have maintained in my last three posts, a combination of several factors. Then you take just the Mikel and Ramires factor, and decided to concentrate on that. Never mind other points.


I see you have (and rightfully so) distanced yourself from that last statement. Good players don't guarantee anything. That's just complete rubbish!

Now we are talking about Ramires' strengths. The opinion we normally fall back to when we are talking about a complete dud. Why don't you ask Bayern to go after those strengths?

If you think the difference between the combination of Mikel, Ramires, defensive football, negative tctics, attacking outlet relying solely on Hazard, Azipili at left back, Mr Mourinho and now Alonso, Kante, Matic, positive football, method of attack, Hazard not having to defend and Mr Conte is not crucial to Hazard's performance this season so far, then you and I have nothing to discuss and we better end it now.

I mean you are emotionally invested in the anti-Hazard brigade, you cannot see that Chelsea, as a whole, had an off season because of some single dude, and not necessarily that Hazard failed to produce. Some much, you claim Willian only had to do little to be better than him?

But where's the little Willian is doing now, in a team and system that seems perfectly made for Hazard to shine? In fact, Hazard has already doubled Willian's tally for the whole of last season in only a third of the season.

But let's leave facts alone. Common sense must not be allowed to get in the way of obscene declarations. Chelsea did not have a bad season with all players under-performing because of a toxic manager, it was all Hazard's inability to perform. Let's drive the anti-brigade train to an easy conclusion.

Complete confusion. So much, that you are making an argument and somehow completely oblivious to the fact that the present Hazard is already proving everything you are saying wrong.

You think the introduction of Kante has not allowed Hazard to go out in front and be superb? Play one-twos with Costa and blow away weak teams?

Heck even Pedro and Costa are looking like new beasts on the back of a new system. Playing out of their skins, passing with their eyes closed and remaining a constant threat at goal. But somehow, Hazard is excluded from the benefits of introducing a complete midfielder in Kante. We are not allowed to make this case for Hazard. Even though we can see with our eyes how transformed he had been in a short while.

Instead, WE, are making excuses and Hazard must be judged by a different sets of rules.

In fact, according to you, it doesn't matter that Kante is there. Let's just stick Winston Borgarde there. Good players don't guarantee jack. Complete midfielders don't help.

Confusion specialists! It's 2016 abeg. I am not doing this yeye arguments.

Hmmm

raumdeuter:
The day Hazard plays in an attack with players of the caliber of Jo, fred, Oscar, Hulk and manage to make a semi is the day I will agree he is a tier 2 player.

Oscar was always good for the Brazilian team.

edoyad:


True talk , that's why I have never watched a German or Chinese league match for up to 10 minutes in my entire life. It's better to use that time to count ants

It's lines like the bold that's making raumdeuter and A40 with those up barca boys hate on the EPL...Simply put, you're not nice...

Greatihex:
@ airmark, Chelseafan1 and hensben, e don reach to share money now una don forget say i be hazard fanboy too.

Lol, u go take Bimffo place.

Diademk07:


Yes, I would. As a matter of fact, Gustavo was the best central midfielder at the confed cup. He dominated the Spanish team as well as put Iniesta in his pocket. We know for a fact that Fabregas is better in the attacking midfield than in the central midfield because he's one useless sluggish toad when he's not creating..

Paulinho may not be as good as Matic but he's capable of putting in good shifts that are almost as good as that of Matic and he adds the intensity and energy needed more than Matic in the midfield. Also, Oscar looked good at the confed cup. He consistently dropped deep to build the Brazilian's attack with Neymar being at the receiving end of such attack. Him, Marcelo and Neymar were often in tandem. I know for a fact that I would take both Paulinho and Gustavo over Fellaini and Witsel, even Oscar over the awful performance of KDB at the euros.

That said, Hazard hardly plays a roaming role for the Belgium team, that role is reserved for KDB. Don't you find it strange that he suddenly looked good for the Belgium side at the Euros as soon as he was switched to the middle? For me, he was the best attacking player at the Euros and yes, he was better than Greissman because Hazard overall performance was better!

Paulinho good shifts are good enough to earn him a bench role at SPurs and finally a career move to China at the supposed peak of his career

Its the same Oscar that Hazard fans blame for his woes So in one breath Oscar is one of the reasons Hazard is bad, Yet the Oscar is a great contributor for Brazil

Hazard got into Belgium way before Debruyne and was an established member of the team before KdB

Hazard 5,220 min for Belgium 16 goals 20 assists

Debruyne 3, 800mins for Belgium 13 goals 19 assists

Debroslink:
When a man United fan places Robben above Neymar, just to overrate Hazard, you know he's a biased fellow.

Robben is one of the main reasons Holland lost the world cup final. Who remembers that one on one situation he wasted against Casillas?

I'm yet to see Neymar flop for Brazil when the ovation is loudest. I remember confederations cup final against Spain. I also remember Olympics final.

However, both Robben and Neymar have delivered UCL trophy for their respective clubs by their overall play especially scoring the decisive goal in the final match.

Until Hazard does what these two have done for club and country, he is NOT in the same level with them.

Neymar better than Robben? I've seen it all.

Let me remind you that Neymar's technique is just a little above that of Bale's. His control in tight space can't even compare to Robben. Did you watch how many poor control he had against the high pressing Gldbach and City team?

As a matter of fact, Only Robben's injuries prevented him from being as good as Ronaldo and Messi.


If you've not seen Neymar flopped for his national team, then you don't watch enough of the South America copa matches.

Diademk07:
Oscar was always good for the Brazilian team.

You cant have it both ways you cant say Oscar is a bad player when it comes to Hazard, and the same Oscar is a good player when it comes to Neymar

Diademk07:


Neymar better than Robben? I've seen it all.

Let me remind you that Neymar's technique is just a little above that of Bale's. His control in tight space can't even compare to Robben. Did you watch how many poor control he had against the high pressing Gldbach and City team?

As a matter of fact, Only Robben's injuries prevented from being as good as Ronaldo and Messi.


If you've not seen Neymar flopped for his national team, then you don't watch enough of the South America copa matches.

Neymar vs Robben is an argument that will be keenly contested, and a far better one than Neymar vs Hazard.

However, in a bid to overrate Hazard, you are trying to pitch him in the same scale as the duo. That's an insult to football.

raumdeuter:


You cant have it both ways you cant say Oscar is a bad player when it comes to Hazard, and the same Oscar is a good player when it comes to Neymar

Does Messi play well for the NT like he does for Barca?

This same Neymar sef, some of their fans will tell us, he plays better for the NT than for Barca.

raumdeuter:


Paulinho good shifts are good enough to earn him a bench role at SPurs and finally a career move to China at the supposed peak of his career

Its the same Oscar that Hazard fans blame for his woes So in one breath Oscar is one of the reasons Hazard is bad, Yet the Oscar is a great contributor for Brazil

Hazard got into Belgium way before Debruyne and was an established member of the team before KdB

Hazard 5,220 min for Belgium 16 goals 20 assists

Debruyne 3, 800mins for Belgium 13 goals 19 assists

Many folks has different allegiance to clubs and country. Take for example, Ramsey who looked dogshit for Arsenal last season but was one of the best CM at the Euros. The fact is Oscar always played well for his national team.

As for Paulinho, a new coach came in, so? But one thing I know is the fact that he's a decent midfielder with lot of energy and intensity in his game and I think it was his performance for his national team that earned him a move to Spurs in the first place.

That said, Hazard was a teenager when he debuted for Belgium and at the time when the Belgium side didn't even have any quality in the team unlike KDB. Hence, those stats doesn't tell the whole story.

Nihilist:
all i wanna know is whether airmark has been paid

Ibime has done the needful. I know him as an upright person, who will not fraudulently sit for someone for international exams like one apari once bragged here. He will not depend on hacked cc to pay folks. That's why everyone was lobbying to be his in-law at the sight of his beautiful baby. Long live ibime, long live hazard, long live all chelsea fans