Nihilist:

Again you miss the point.

Both of Bayansh's 1st choice defenders were on the pitch that night, and they characteristically conceded easy goals.

Bayansh's and Germany's success has been based on the quality of its attack and midfield and not it's rear guard at all....

Your possesion play ensures that the opposition hardly get to test your defence, but when they do...they breach easily. Very easily.

Did you see how many saves Neuer was forced to make in that Brazil game?

Like Coogar said, Alago is not better than Djourou.

Nihilist: Cahill is miles better than Alago.

Fact

coogar:

in place of metersacker, boateng & howedes. these players are basic as fück! you see, they were all carried through. one thing germany have always had is a strong spine.

neuer-hummels-schweini-kroos-muller.

once this is sorted, it's easier to fit in others & they would be carried along. schweini was practically down on his last gasp of breath in that final, defending like a spartan!

boateng ko, shipteng ni.

chic2pimp:

Per is a bench warmer when everyone's fit so that leaves just two places up for grabs since It's safe to say none of those lot would displace lahm or Mats.

Now of those two places up for grabs, let's say Cahill is better than Boateng(think he is still slightly better). That now leaves one spot. You telling me Jones and smalling are better than Boateng? Players that can't command regular shirts for club or country better than Boateng? You must be having a laugh mate.

Smalling

coogar:

smalling is 100 times better than boateng! his stock dipped because of that useless moyes that screwed our entire season up. if the world cup year was the season we won by 8 points, virtually all the english united players would have started for england.

Nihilist: Luiz is not a Chelsea player....he was a 50 million pound open cheque

Anyway he scored that fantastic freekick...so his worldcup wasn't too bad.

The same Boateng that DK is hyping now, is the one he was lamenting about before the Real Madrid game because quote 'their attackers could hurt them'.

One website hack later, and Boateng is now the love child of Maldini and Gentile.

A40 is even calling him boa-tank.

Boatank?

More like Boa-Stank.

Or GP Tank?

Ayipee Ayipee...

chic2pimp:

You must be talking about another smalling i have never heard off. Cahill i can accept. Think he is still that bit ahead but Smalling? Chris Smalling? Smalling formerly of Fulham? Certainly not. He should be more bothered about trying to get a game as a first team regular in his favoured position. Then worry about how to displace Jagielka in the England first eleven.

johnstar: ow sure ar u??

coogar:

you still don't get it.....
moyes screwed up united players. under fergie, there's no way jaglieka would be chosen ahead of any united defender. moyes took us to 7th.....below everton & spurs. that automatically made all united players mediocre. even rooney was moved wide for wet-behind-the-ears sterling.

would that have happened had united won the title last season?

chic2pimp:

We both agree that under a decent manager United would never have finished 7th last season. Still does that make Smallings (who was no closer to getting first team footy in his favoured position under Moyes than he was under Fergie) a better defender or does it?

coogar:

smalling was a top defender under fergie. no young defender would easily displace rio/vidic. no defender in germany or italy could have displaced rio/vidic - it was the reason pique left for barcelona & became an instant cult hero there.

so what are you saying?

chic2pimp:
smalling was simply solid/ok under Fergie nothing more. Rio's last good season was probably 2009 or 2010. If smalling was top class, he should have been pushing hard but he wasn't. He needs to improve!

coogar:

your memory needs protein.
ferdinand was the best defender in the entire league in 12/13 season. he was in the PFA team. smalling's development took a hit when he was being played as a RB cos he couldn't get ahead of rio/vidic axis. as a central defender, there's no english player better than him sef. he's extra solid!

A40:
It is only in a shyte, overrated and overhyped league that players like Gary Cahill can be rated highly! This World Cup has shown us he shouldn't even start for Costa Rica. Another World Cup has come and gone no EPL player nominated in any major category

You people ought to go back to the drawing board instead of knocking World Champions and 5 star Surgeon Generals

Boateng to Cahill why not Leo Di Caprio to Kanayo O Kanayo

coogar:

dayo is a troll!
according to his idumota logic, if you replace cahill with boateng, england would have won the world cup.

i am starting to think 90% of dayo's football intelligence has been eroded ever since he moved to the US. america has a way of doing that to you when all you see on their sports channels are men with helmets grabbing each other's bütts!

coogar:

yes, they would have conceded more. ryan shawcross is better than boateng. you are too silly to realise in a team, there are active participants & the passive ones. with or without boateng, germany would still have won the world cup. he adds nothing in value to the team.



you are crazy
they don't play that demonic game in my country where big men with helmets & longjohns grab each other's butts. dayo - you are a faggöt & this is why you moved to a country that glorifies sodomy on TV.

CFCfan:
Rotfl
Or we can compare Mila Kunis to Tonto Dikeh

A40:
The thing just tire me! It used to be Scholes vs Zidane, Beckham better than Figo then it degenerated to Gerrard and Lampard better than Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo and Schweinsteiger no matter how many times EPL players and English players get disgraced on the International stage they still won't recognize their superiors

ElGuapo:

Hehe.

Oya the WC apart, Cahill and Boateng who's a better def?

Na so one kid from Manure thread named Pietro come here dey yarn okpata wey full em head, dey talk say Jones, Smalling, Ferdinard, Vidic and the Evans of this world better pass Cahill, Terry et al. The kind iranu we're made to live with for this board eh

dayokanu:

Are you surprised? No wonder their players cant win anything. In the International stage they havent played a final in almost 50yrs

While I cant see a decade when Germany doesnt make a final. Its from this type of insane comparison that their failure stems from

Imagine comparing Cahill, Gary fraking Cahill to Boateng.

Shebi na the same way Andy Gray talk say only Lahm and Neuer would make the English team in 2010 before Muller and co(A bunch of U-23 boys) rapeed them in South Africa

And you wonder why you couldnt get a win in the world cup?

No be for here person tell us say Joe Cole is better than Schweinsteiger?

When on TV Ballack and Roberto Martinez said No single English player would make the German team that was last month

They thought he was taking the piss

coogar:

hart would definitely bench neuer. . . .lampard/cleverley would bench khedira, gerrard would bench klose, lahm and ashley cole is a toss up.
lahm plays on both flanks and he would walk into the england set up. cleverley would bench gotze/reus/kroos.

dyabman: You this dayo. You go just dey argue what's not , boateng had a fantastic World Cup and that made him better than Cahill ? Na wa o , cahill's pace will burn boateng arse , thanks to Sami khedira and kroos for covering his arse , he's no better than Kenneth omeruo , woobish, ste vrijs and vlaar had a better performance than that block head boateng

pkasso: Boateng has one good game and my Bayern brothers are having an orgassm.SMDH! Dude's got more bells than a Cele priest! I say again, David Luiz >> 'Alago' Boateng.

Katsumoto: Not much changes around here. How can Smalling and Jones be better than Boateng? Or Nastasic for that matter.

Cahill may have been at fault for the Balotelli goal but that shouldn't remove from him as a quality defender. He is easily an underrated defender. All top defenders are at fault at some point in their careers. Baresi was at fault for the Houghton goal Ireland scored against Italy at USA 94. I use Baresi because he is considered one of the best central defenders of all time.

It is almost impossible to win the WC or any top tournament with a bad/average defense. The German defense was solid throughout and Boateng was very good.