Bimfo:

Ehn ehn.. What does Matic do at Chelsea.. He tries to steal the ball from opponents and Ochestra a Move.. Still the same thing Pirlo does..

Bimfo:

Ehn ehn.. What does Matic do at Chelsea.. He tries to steal the ball from opponents and Ochestra a Move.. Still the same thing Pirlo does..

PietroRico: sigh.
To cut long story short, who performs the DMF role for juve?

hensben: bro try to watch juve match when pirlo is fit again, believe me he plays DMF for juve, i watch their games most times, so i know why i say, matic n vidal have nothing in common in juve rather pirlo position.

hensben: pirlo, this is why pogba and vidal score from open play cos they are box to box to DMF(pirlo), pirlo only score through free kick or PK.

PietroRico: we'll manage the imbalance till january. Then a proper midfielder(strootman) will come in.

We'll kick buttts for fun as soon as he settles in(which shouldn't take long).

Bimfo:

Lol.. You guys are just knowing what Premier league is.. All those years U were winning the Premier league with Alex ferguson's power is gone now..

I can bet it with you that 5 years from now, you wont win the premier league.. I just hope we are all alive then.. and Nairaland still dey Kampe.. MB na small thing..

coogar:

i can name 5 players better than terry in the premier league.

•kompany
•vlaar
•koscielny
•jaglieka
•rojo

matic's own is easier....

•blind
•ramsey
•dembele
•cattermole
•gerrard

PietroRico: lol. I'll be alive in the next 70 years!
We're winning the title in 2 years!
It's not even debatable

Bimfo:

2 wetin Lol..

PietroRico: pirlo as juve's defensive midfielder?
Pirlo that can neither tackle nor run ?

I envy ur football knowledge

PietroRico: lol. Sir, u don't know what you are saying

hensben: hahaha now i see why you argue this, is sergio bosquet strong physically but he is a DMF, in football today, you doesnt need a roy keane pattern of 'rugby-DMF', rather, a good passer/distributor of the ball from deep(i.e, a DMF of today football requires more technics,discipline and reading of the game, makelele started this, he was small in size but opponet hardly displace him.)....oga football don evolve.

PietroRico:
You are still looking at it the wrong way.

It means pep doesn't not fancy full fledged DM's

That's why mashcerano(arguably the best DM in the world at that time) got converted because of bousquet.

And martinez(undoubtedly the world's best DM at pep's bayern arrival) got converted again for lahm.

Are you not seeing the pattern?

How then does matic (who is no where close to the levels martinez and macherano were) in pep's bayern.

Martinez is still a better DM than matic btw.
Even if pep decides to begin to use full fledged DM's, martinez WILL still get the nod ahead of him.

So YES, he has no chance of being a starter for bayern

TheCarefreeOne: I think u misunderstand the difference between a DM(makelele,Keane) and a regista(pirlo, Gerrard) Pirlo defensively is rubbish and he is immobile and what helps him in juve systems are the engines and defensive prowess of pogba and Vidal. a player like busquet may not be huge but he is strong defensively and combines that with technique. and bro till now most teams that win trophies and dominate usually have those "brutes" eg toure(man city) khedira(Madrid) martinez(Bayern) bender(Dortmund) makelele (the 1st galaticos) etc

hensben: pogba and vidal are doing their job and pirlo has come of age, thats the reason if matic is there, they wouldnt labour much cos he is still young, remember this word 'box to box' i hope you know what it means and its been use in two formations. which are; 3-5-3 and 4-2-3-1 or 4-5-1. unlike roy keane who played in 4-4-2 formation(old skool formation).Btw, how did you come to that conclusion that when you have such players you are guaranteed trophy ,last time i check, madrid won bayern 4 goals to nil in ucl last season and no khedira in the match but martinez was playing for bayern that day.

PietroRico: lol. Matic is not even a deep lying playmaker.
Matic in pirlo's place in that 352 changes a lot of things about that system.

Wether the new system due to matic's introduction works or not is a debate for another day.

raumdeuter: I have read all the recent posts and have saved it for future reference

TheCarefreeOne: I think u misunderstand the difference between a DM(makelele,Keane) and a regista(pirlo, Gerrard) Pirlo defensively is rubbish and he is immobile and what helps him in juve systems are the engines and defensive prowess of pogba and Vidal. a player like busquet may not be huge but he is strong defensively and combines that with technique. and bro till now most teams that win trophies and dominate usually have those "brutes" eg toure(man city) khedira(Madrid) martinez(Bayern) bender(Dortmund) makelele (the 1st galaticos) etc

raumdeuter: I have read all the recent posts and have saved it for future reference

hensben: how about this;

PietroRico: lol. I'll be alive in the next 70 years!
We're winning the title in 2 years!
It's not even debatable

hensben: hahaha now i see why you argue this, is sergio bosquet strong physically but he is a DMF, in football today, you doesnt need a roy keane pattern of 'rugby-DMF', rather, a good passer/distributor of the ball from deep(i.e, a DMF of today football requires more technics,discipline and reading of the game, makelele started this, he was small in size but opponet hardly displace him.)....oga football don evolve.

SammyHoe:

Do u mean to say CHAMPIONSHIP?

raumdeuter: I have read all the recent posts and have saved it for future reference

Debroslink:

Makelele started what? It seems you don't know a certain guy called Redondo. The guy who modernised DM. The guy whom Makelele was his understudy.