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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:19pm On May 25, 2019
airmark:


No misinterpretation here. If you don't have strength/stamina how do you use your skills optimally in a football match?

From the article you posted below are top footballers and coaches who played beyond jeunjeun football saying

doping in soccer wouldn't help? Legendary German player Franz Beckenbauer has said as much, as have myriad lesser football luminaries such as Guido Buchwald, Theo Zwanziger, Ewald Lienen, Robin Dutt and current Liverpool manager Jürgen Klopp.

Mehmet Scholl, a former Bayern Munich star and current TV commentator, even once explained why it wouldn't work. Football, he said, is too complex. "Let's assume that you take something to build up your muscles, your coordination would suffer. If you take something for conditioning, you'll get slower." According to Mehmet.

The above are opinions from top level professionals who have been active in football some for like 40yrs
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 3:19pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Skills ball recovery are more dependent on intelligence than on strenght.
.how does ur intelligence comes 2 play wen u lack 2 strenght 2 perform it?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:20pm On May 25, 2019
weedtaker:
Lol, are you trolling or what, if you don't have strength you'll just be mehh, even with you skills to pass ball go be like heavy task, you sure say you play ball while growing up so? or you just be keeper?

Busquets, Iniesta Xavi Fabregas Pirlo are some of the best passers of the ball in the past decade, When you watch their game and think about it, How much strenght do they have compared to their contemporaries
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:21pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Skills ball recovery are more dependent on intelligence than on strenght.

grin

You never played football on a standard field before, so I understand your ignorance.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:21pm On May 25, 2019
Segedinho:
.how does ur intelligence comes 2 play wen u lack 2 strenght 2 perform it?

Every pro football has the necesary basic strenght to pass a ball in a football game

Busquets, Xavi iniesta Pirlo fabregas Ozil David Silva are some of the best passers in football, How many of these do you think of as players with strenght
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:22pm On May 25, 2019
airmark:


grin

You never played football on a standard field before, so I understand your ignorance.

Mehmet Scholl Beckenbauer, klopp also never played ball on a standard field before only airmark who couldnt make it in pro football has played ball on a standard field before
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 3:23pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Every pro football has the necesary basic strenght to pass a ball in a football game

Busquets, Xavi iniesta Pirlo fabregas Ozil are some of the best passers in football, How many of these do you think of as strong players
Does this strenght decline with the game or just remain the same time as the game progresses? ?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:24pm On May 25, 2019
Segedinho:

Does this strenght decline with the game or just remain the same time as the game progresses? ?

DO you think ability to pass in minute 5, declines compared to minute 85?

I have given you a list of like 7 players who were regarded as some of the best passers of the past decade, How many of them do you associate strenght with
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 3:25pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Busquets, Iniesta Xavi Fabregas Pirlo are some of the best passers of the ball in the past decade, When you watch their game and think about it, How much strength do they have compared to their contemporaries
and who told you they don't have strength? Lukaku is built like a weightlifter yet ordinary ake the beat am for area battle, just bcuz they are slow and have a lazy body language doesn't mean they don't have strength.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 3:26pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


DO you think ability to pass in minute 5, declines compared to minute 85?
..u pass only wen the ball is with u ...and ball recovery depends on strenght. .. undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 3:29pm On May 25, 2019
airmark:


No misinterpretation here. If you don't have strength/stamina how do you use your skills optimally in a football match?

Pro footballer train almost everyday except for match day when they just do light warm up. At that level their normal regular training will definitely result to higher fitness level.

When the game is going on, all 22 players won’t be running at the same time. Those that do most of the running are the midfielders and we have seen countless time that midfielders stroll on the pitch. Attackers have ample time to relax and catch their breath before a burst of attacking moves while defenders also have time to catch their breaths. They do all these to conserve their energy.

Look at Busquet for example, you do call him biscuit, what do you think his stamina/strength level is and does it affect his skills?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:29pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


From the article you posted below are top footballers and coaches who played beyond jeunjeun football saying

doping in soccer wouldn't help? Legendary German player Franz Beckenbauer has said as much, as have myriad lesser football luminaries such as Guido Buchwald, Theo Zwanziger, Ewald Lienen, Robin Dutt and current Liverpool manager Jürgen Klopp.

Mehmet Scholl, a former Bayern Munich star and current TV commentator, even once explained why it wouldn't work. Football, he said, is too complex. "Let's assume that you take something to build up your muscles, your coordination would suffer. If you take something for conditioning, you'll get slower." According to Mehmet.

The above are opinions from top level professionals who have been active in football some for like 40yrs

You think you're smart by editing the lines before the emboldened above. The article referred to those players claims as asinine. But you deliberately omitted it, to fraudulently suit your opinion. What do you gain with such shameless move?

Below is what you didn't want people to read:

How often have we heard people make the asinine claim that doping in soccer wouldn't help? Legendary German player Franz Beckenbauer has said as much, as have myriad lesser football luminaries such as Guido Buchwald, Theo Zwanziger, Ewald Lienen, Robin Dutt and current Liverpool manager Jürgen Klopp.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:31pm On May 25, 2019
larride:


Pro footballer train almost everyday except for match day when they just do light warm up. At that level their normal regular training will definitely result to higher fitness level.

When the game is going on, all 22 players won’t be running at the same time. Those that do most of the running are the midfielders and we have seen countless time that midfielders stroll on the pitch. Attackers have ample time to relax and catch their breath before a burst of attacking moves while defenders also have time to catch their breaths. They do all these to conserve their energy.

Look at Busquet for example, you do call him biscuit, what do you think his stamina/strength level is and does it affect his skills?

Very simple, Pls tell what is hard to understand here.

In football do you run for 90mins? If you take drugs to make you run more, you will just be there restless, If you let the drug take over and run when you are not supposed to youll probably be out of position let your team down and be subbed out

But everything is rocket science to airmark
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 3:32pm On May 25, 2019
Segedinho:
..u pass only wen the ball is with u ...and ball recovery depends on strenght. .. undecided

grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:32pm On May 25, 2019
airmark:


You think you're smart by editing the lines before the emboldened above. The article referred to those players claims as asinine. But you deliberately omitted it, to fraudulently suit your opinion. What do you gain with such shameless move?

How often have we heard people make the asinine claim that doping in soccer wouldn't help? Legendary German player Franz Beckenbauer has said as much, as have myriad lesser football luminaries such as Guido Buchwald, Theo Zwanziger, Ewald Lienen, Robin Dutt and current Liverpool manager Jürgen Klopp.

So a journalist should tell us more about doping in football than professional footballers and coaches

LOL Its like being daft is not only in your genes, you also take it as vitamins

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 3:34pm On May 25, 2019
larride:


Pro footballer train almost everyday except for match day when they just do light warm up. At that level their normal regular training will definitely result to higher fitness level.

When the game is going on, all 22 players won’t be running at the same time. Those that do most of the running are the midfielders and we have seen countless time that midfielders stroll on the pitch. Attackers have ample time to relax and catch their breath before a burst of attacking moves while defenders also have time to catch their breaths. They do all these to conserve their energy.

Look at Busquet for example, you do call him biscuit, what do you think his stamina/strength level is and does it affect his skills?
@bolded Lol, the current Man utd team destroys dis analogy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:34pm On May 25, 2019
weedtaker:
and who told you they don't have strength? Lukaku is built like a weightlifter yet ordinary ake the beat am for area battle, just bcuz they are slow and have a lazy body language doesn't mean they don't have strength.

The Ake Lukaku example just proves my point. Strenght is not the most important factor but how you are able to use the small strenght you gain in regular training is key like Ake did on Lukaku in your example
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:35pm On May 25, 2019
weedtaker:
@bolded Lol, the current Man utd team destroys dis analogy.

Current Man City agrees with that summation

Current Man utd does not have the tactical input to play the game simple
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 3:35pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Current Man City agrees with that summation

Current Man utd does not have the tactical input to play the game simple
lies
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:36pm On May 25, 2019
weedtaker:
lies

Current Man City is not among the top 10 running team. Huddersfield is the 6th highest running team

They finished over 80points apart

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 3:37pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


The Ake Lukaku example just proves my point. Strenght is not the most important factor but how you are able to use the small strenght you gain in regular training is key like Ake did on Lukaku in your example
...
Seems we all are saying the same things but 4m different perspectives.
When u are good .u are good but being good tends 2 decline as the game progresses due 2 energy sapping hence d effect of PED.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 3:38pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Current Man City is not among the top 10 running team. Huddersfield is the 6th highest running team

They finished over 80points apart
and when does PEDS=RUNNING? undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 3:39pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Current Man City is not among the top 10 running team. Huddersfield is the 6th highest running team

They finished over 80points apart
.
It is not called RED but PED...running is just a subject in football curriculum
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:40pm On May 25, 2019
weedtaker:
and when does PEDS=RUNNING? undecided

Tell us what PEDs improve.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 3:41pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Tell us what PEDs improve.

Strenght wch is the mother of all the skillset hence d P=performance
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 3:41pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


The Ake Lukaku example just proves my point. Strenght is not the most important factor but how you are able to use the small strenght you gain in regular training is key like Ake did on Lukaku in your example
Strength is a big factor in football, that's why milner at 34/35 is still playing like he's 27, why alexis sanchez now plays like he's 50.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:42pm On May 25, 2019
Segedinho:
.
It is not called RED but PED...running is just a subject in football curriculum

Running stamina, recovery endurance are the things PEDs can affect directly

Can Lukaku use PEDs to pass like Siggurdson? or control like even Rashford.

Mind you I am using players within the same level not Messi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:43pm On May 25, 2019
weedtaker:
Strength is a big factor in football, that's why milner at 34/35 is still playing like he's 27, why alexis sanchez now plays like he's 50.
You think Milner is stronger than Alexis? Have you seen Alexis training before?

There are things wrong with Alexis and its not strenght its application. just like Valencia

I am going out see you later
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 3:44pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Tell us what PEDs improve.

PED= EXTRA STRENTH. Abi all dis area boys wey the take tramadol b4 them go do offlaod no sabi wetin them the do?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:45pm On May 25, 2019
larride:


Pro footballer train almost everyday except for match day when they just do light warm up. At that level their normal regular training will definitely result to higher fitness level.

When the game is going on, all 22 players won’t be running at the same time. Those that do most of the running are the midfielders and we have seen countless time that midfielders stroll on the pitch. Attackers have ample time to relax and catch their breath before a burst of attacking moves while defenders also have time to catch their breaths. They do all these to conserve their energy.

Look at Busquet for example, you do call him biscuit, what do you think his stamina/strength level is and does it affect his skills?

Don't be fooled by TV, off the ball movements are not always captured on your screen.

Substitutions are not only done because of tactics, stamina is key to expressing yourself on the field optimally.

Busquets has been getting exposed as a weakling since Iniesta and Xavi left. He was getting shielded by those maestros.

Meanwhile, there are PEDs for concentration, so it's for performance enhancement and not only strength enhancement.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRick: 3:45pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:


Suarez has only scored 2 goals in 2 seasons of CL
Vidal Rakitic Lenglet Semedo/Sergi Roberto, terStergen are they really better than their liverpool opponent? How many of them will make the liverpool team

If Jodi Alba is better than Robertson it will be marginal
Origi scored 2 on that day, so he's better than Suarez?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 3:45pm On May 25, 2019
raumdeuter:

You think Milner is stronger than Alexis? Have you seen Alexis training before?

There are things wrong with Alexis and its not strenght its application. just like Valencia

I am going out see you later
Strength na big factor oga, Go come.

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